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SRH1 Offline
#401 Posted: Wed, Jun 6 2012, 8:18 PM EST
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Forgive me if this has already been posted, but in the event that it wasn't, some interesting reading on aging here:
http://www.cigarasylum.com/vb/showthread.php?t=5094

If what's written here is true I doubt I'll be around long enough to experience an "ethereal" cigar.
APBTMarcel Offline
#402 Posted: Wed, Jun 6 2012, 10:53 PM EST
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Eh I have my doubts, some cigars don't age well into their 20 while I'm sure some in there 20's are phenomenal. Smoke a cohiba gran reserva in a couple years.....doesnt need 20 to be "ethereal". And at the same time I think you might need a really great palatte to appreciate a 20 year old cigar.
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#403 Posted: Thu, Jun 7 2012, 9:20 AM EST
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Smoked a new one this week ... LGC Immenso. Good cigar, not very complex or dynamic, though. A cigar that big should have some twists and turns. Still, it was very yummy. I smoked it while video-chatting with my brother, and that was perfect. I would probably go for a 5er if given the opportunity.
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#404 Posted: Thu, Jun 7 2012, 9:42 AM EST
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APBTMarcel wrote:
Eh I have my doubts, some cigars don't age well into their 20 while I'm sure some in there 20's are phenomenal. Smoke a cohiba gran reserva in a couple years.....doesnt need 20 to be "ethereal". And at the same time I think you might need a really great palatte to appreciate a 20 year old cigar.

^ +1 ^
APBTMarcel Offline
#405 Posted: Thu, Jun 7 2012, 10:18 AM EST
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njstone wrote:
Smoked a new one this week ... LGC Immenso. Good cigar, not very complex or dynamic, though. A cigar that big should have some twists and turns. Still, it was very yummy. I smoked it while video-chatting with my brother, and that was perfect. I would probably go for a 5er if given the opportunity.


Think they will age well?
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#406 Posted: Thu, Jun 7 2012, 10:30 AM EST
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SRH1 wrote:
Forgive me if this has already been posted, but in the event that it wasn't, some interesting reading on aging here:
http://www.cigarasylum.com/vb/showthread.php?t=5094

If what's written here is true I doubt I'll be around long enough to experience an "ethereal" cigar.


By all accounts, Min Ron Nee is an ass and a tool. It really is a crime that Adriano Martinez Rius was only listed as an "Honorary Consultant" on the Encyclopedia as he did most of the work for the book. MRN can drink is $1,000 a cup tea and stick his cigars up his dumper as far as I'm concerned. Frying pan
fishinguitarman Offline
#407 Posted: Thu, Jun 7 2012, 10:54 AM EST
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Boli PC or C Jr.?
cacman Offline
#408 Posted: Thu, Jun 7 2012, 11:04 AM EST
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^^^ Boli PC = Yumm!!!
C Jr.??? - what's that???
KPP Offline
#409 Posted: Thu, Jun 7 2012, 11:06 AM EST
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^ it doesn't take much looking around Ray to know pretty much everyone who smokes Boli prefers the PC, and by many accounts, is one of their favorite smokes....which includes the facet of being a consistent performer.

I'm not a Boli guy, as the profile just isnt my favorite, but I do more than my share of reading up.

Boli PC and it's not close.

Now all ya gotta do is find someone to buy the box, and split em with you. Or start a "really wish I had some to try post/thread" and hope someone sends you a few of each.
fishinguitarman Offline
#410 Posted: Thu, Jun 7 2012, 11:22 AM EST
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KPP wrote:
^ it doesn't take much looking around Ray to know pretty much everyone who smokes Boli prefers the PC, and by many accounts, is one of their favorite smokes....which includes the facet of being a consistent performer.

I'm not a Boli guy, as the profile just isnt my favorite, but I do more than my share of reading up.

Boli PC and it's not close.

Now all ya gotta do is find someone to buy the box, and split em with you. Or start a "really wish I had some to try post/thread" and hope someone sends you a few of each.





What about the profile doesn't fit your palate?
APBTMarcel Offline
#411 Posted: Thu, Jun 7 2012, 11:33 AM EST
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He's an elitist he only smokes Cohibas as his everyday smoke and dunhills for special occasions.......................jk.

You going to pick up a box of PC's fgm or doing a split?
fishinguitarman Offline
#412 Posted: Thu, Jun 7 2012, 11:36 AM EST
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APBTMarcel wrote:
He's an elitist he only smokes Cohibas as his everyday smoke and dunhills for special occasions.......................jk.

You going to pick up a box of PC's fgm or doing a split?






Thinkin bout it but gotta check with wheel too......3 way maybe?
APBTMarcel Offline
#413 Posted: Thu, Jun 7 2012, 11:57 AM EST
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We shall see.
fishinguitarman Offline
#414 Posted: Thu, Jun 7 2012, 12:30 PM EST
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Ummmm....What dat mean? Think
wheelrite Offline
#415 Posted: Thu, Jun 7 2012, 12:37 PM EST
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fishinguitarman wrote:
Thinkin bout it but gotta check with wheel too......3 way maybe?



Let me know
KPP Offline
#416 Posted: Thu, Jun 7 2012, 12:47 PM EST
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Bolis just are more maduro'esque to me. IMO, they have just those darker earthy, chocolate/spice notes that im just moving away from more and more these days. I've had some good Bolis (GMs, CE, BBF etc) don't get me wrong, but none that made me want to run out and grab a box. Still have 10-15 of various sizes in my Humi to see if that changes over time though.

Said it to you long ago as I recall Ray, but the Boli profile is right in your wheelhouse.
APBTMarcel Offline
#417 Posted: Thu, Jun 7 2012, 1:19 PM EST
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KPP- what are some of your favorite cc's?

I think your right on with the flavor profile for the most part. Thats why a lot of people like them, just picked up some BBF's. '11's though so they will be in the humi for awhile.
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#418 Posted: Thu, Jun 7 2012, 1:37 PM EST
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I'm a fan of most things Upmann (2, Mag 46, Sir Winston)...just grabbed some Mag 50s, and finally found a box of Royal Robusto very recently.

Also enjoy Monte (2s & PE...find the PE to be much more consistent than the 2). Don't plan to ever be out of PSD4s, 898s or Lusis. And yup, I like Cohiba too..(CoRo, Siglo IV, Behikes). Only Trini I've purchased is the Robo T, which I enjoy...although theyre a 1st smoke of the day type cigar due to being more of a mild flavor profile. And man, I fuggin' love a good RASS.

If Im craving Chocolate, I'll go with a VR Unicos. Has the chocolate element, but more cream, and with an almost floral component there too. Not so earthy/dark like the Bolis.

As you can see, I'm not about PCs or lanceros. Smallest ring I like is a 46. Wanting to branch out to some more of the CGs/CEs before they disappear (SLR Serie A, RG CE, Hoyo Epi 1 etc.). A Corona Gorda is about the prefect size smoke to me...but obviously enjoy the 2s and Robustos as well.
APBTMarcel Offline
#419 Posted: Thu, Jun 7 2012, 1:43 PM EST
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Thanks for the input. Fave overall size is the CG as well.

I have a box of Unicos that I really enjoy. I think VR has a pretty unique taste and I like it, I'm thinking about trying out some familiares.
rfenst Online
#420 Posted: Fri, Jun 8 2012, 7:43 AM EST
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KPP wrote:
A Corona Gorda is about the prefect size smoke to me...



If I were forced to pick one and only one size, it would probably be cg- close to a churchills and more than a p.c.
rfenst Online
#421 Posted: Fri, Jun 8 2012, 7:48 AM EST
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APBTMarcel wrote:
Yep me too, I have enjoyed all of the HdM smokes thats I have tried so far. My least favorite was probably the petite robo but I think it's more of a personal preferance thing. I just don't like short robos at all, I feel like they always burn too hot and are just wierd. Kind of reminds me of nub cigars and I'm not a big fan. Maybe I should try and track down some DC's.


They are packed loose and burn hot. The key is to make a cut/shave smaller than a punch so that it still has a good deal of resistance. Totally different cigar then.
fishinguitarman Offline
#422 Posted: Fri, Jun 8 2012, 10:26 AM EST
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Had me a well aged RASS yesterday....




One word....









BEAUTIFUL!
KPP Offline
#423 Posted: Fri, Jun 8 2012, 11:00 AM EST
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^ perhaps you should rethink that next box split...

RASS as young as 2010/2011 are also smoking well. They show their youth still a little bit, but they are no doubt going to age into something spectacular IMO.
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#424 Posted: Fri, Jun 8 2012, 11:41 AM EST
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KPP wrote:
As you can see, I'm not about PCs or lanceros. Smallest ring I like is a 46. Wanting to branch out to some more of the CGs/CEs before they disappear (SLR Serie A, RG CE, Hoyo Epi 1 etc.). A Corona Gorda is about the prefect size smoke to me...but obviously enjoy the 2s and Robustos as well.


You really should give the Lanceros & PCs a chance. Some of the best Cubans that I've had have been Lanceros &/or thin RG cigars. Anxious
deadeyedick Offline
#425 Posted: Fri, Jun 8 2012, 12:07 PM EST
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I almost always stick with toro sized vitolas but what Buckwheat says is very true.

I had a well-aged box of Party Serie du Conn #2 a few years ago. Those were about 7 x 38. The first I had smoked hot and I didn't enjoy it much. Next one I had I sipped it slowly and the graham cracker flavor/aroma profile was nothing short of fantastic.

Sometimes the way we smoke and when makes all the difference.

DED
KPP Offline
#426 Posted: Fri, Jun 8 2012, 5:24 PM EST
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Buckwheat wrote:
You really should give the Lanceros & PCs a chance. Some of the best Cubans that I've had have been Lanceros &/or thin RG cigars. Anxious


I don't really have anything against them per se, other than my smoking tendencies are not that of the "average" smoker. I only smoke maybe one or two cigars over the weekend when the weather is nice...and none during the week. Winter months, well, I can go many weeks at a time without one. I'm an outdoor/weekend/fair-weather smoker I guess you could say.

Point to that being, if I'm making time for a smoke, it's gonna be larger than a PC. And as for lanceros, well, that's just a psychological thing for me...always has been. The closest I can get down with there is a lonsdale. The Party 898 is a damn nice stick, and i've had more than a few excellent HdM Des Dieux. Been tempted to buy a cab of the 03 DDs actually but space is the prohibiting factor there.
fishinguitarman Offline
#427 Posted: Fri, Jun 8 2012, 11:47 PM EST
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KPP wrote:
I don't really have anything against them per se, other than my smoking tendencies are not that of the "average" smoker. I only smoke maybe one or two cigars over the weekend when the weather is nice...and none during the week. Winter months, well, I can go many weeks at a time without one. I'm an outdoor/weekend/fair-weather smoker I guess you could say.

Point to that being, if I'm making time for a smoke, it's gonna be larger than a PC. And as for lanceros, well, that's just a psychological thing for me...always has been. The closest I can get down with there is a lonsdale. The Party 898 is a damn nice stick, and i've had more than a few excellent HdM Des Dieux. Been tempted to buy a cab of the 03 DDs actually but space is the prohibiting factor there.









Friggin overstocked bastid!
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#428 Posted: Sat, Jun 9 2012, 7:38 AM EST
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My 2 sons were home at the same time yesterday evening, both engineering students, I am so proud, and after a big meal it was out to the porch for a few beers and a PSD4 to celebrate our time together. What an awesome cigar, smooth to the nub. The best cigar and evening I've had in a while.
fishinguitarman Offline
#429 Posted: Sat, Jun 9 2012, 8:22 AM EST
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mikey1597 wrote:
My 2 sons were home at the same time yesterday evening, both engineering students, I am so proud, and after a big meal it was out to the porch for a few beers and a PSD4 to celebrate our time together. What an awesome cigar, smooth to the nub. The best cigar and evening I've had in a while.






Those are incredible smokes! Congrats on your boys! You SHOULD be proud even if you ARE an old peckerhead! fog
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#430 Posted: Sat, Jun 9 2012, 8:37 AM EST
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Yes I am! and let them know it all the time. They are turning out to be fine young men.

Even in spite of their old peckerhead dad.BigGrin
fishinguitarman Offline
#431 Posted: Sun, Jun 10 2012, 2:51 PM EST
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Think
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#432 Posted: Sun, Jun 10 2012, 3:44 PM EST
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fishinguitarman wrote:
Those are incredible smokes! Congrats on your boys! You SHOULD be proud even if you ARE an old peckerhead! fog


Glad you like them. I think one of them fell into your box that's on the way!
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#433 Posted: Sun, Jun 10 2012, 3:49 PM EST
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crgcpro wrote:
Glad you like them. I think one of them fell into your box that's on the way!





AWESOME! Thanks!!!
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#434 Posted: Sun, Jun 10 2012, 3:51 PM EST
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fishinguitarman wrote:
AWESOME! Thanks!!!



What you doing here Old Man.

You need CC's again or would you rather a can opener this time?

TIGER
rfenst Online
#435 Posted: Sun, Jun 10 2012, 3:52 PM EST
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mikey1597 wrote:
My 2 sons were home at the same time yesterday evening, both engineering students, I am so proud, and after a big meal it was out to the porch for a few beers and a PSD4 to celebrate our time together. What an awesome cigar, smooth to the nub. The best cigar and evening I've had in a while.



Box Code please!
fishinguitarman Offline
#436 Posted: Sun, Jun 10 2012, 3:55 PM EST
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TIGERCDW wrote:
What you doing here Old Man.

You need CC's again or would you rather a can opener this time?

TIGER





Nope....gotta good can opener! Thanks, though!
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#437 Posted: Sun, Jun 10 2012, 4:00 PM EST
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fishinguitarman wrote:
Nope....gotta good can opener! Thanks, though!



Can Opener..check

That means we need CC's.

What are we looking for?

TIGER
fishinguitarman Offline
#438 Posted: Sun, Jun 10 2012, 4:03 PM EST
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TIGERCDW wrote:
Can Opener..check

That means we need CC's.

What are we looking for?

TIGER





Don't even think about it! You need beer???

Shame on you Shame on you Shame on you Shame on you Shame on you Shame on you
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#439 Posted: Sun, Jun 10 2012, 4:17 PM EST
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rfenst wrote:
Box Code please!



Not a clue......... was a gift.
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#440 Posted: Mon, Jun 11 2012, 9:50 PM EST
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#441 Posted: Wed, Jun 13 2012, 5:53 PM EST
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Cohiba....Beer
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#442 Posted: Thu, Jun 14 2012, 7:36 PM EST
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Sorry for the hijack.

A buddy of mine can pick me up a box or two every month or so during his travels but the selection is limited and prices are at retail. If anyone's comfortable pm'ing me a link to a site they have found or "heard" was reliable, I would send them a few sticks when i get them!

TYIA CRGCPRO
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#443 Posted: Thu, Jun 14 2012, 7:53 PM EST
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crgcpro wrote:
Sorry for the hijack.

A buddy of mine can pick me up a box or two every month or so during his travels but the selection is limited and prices are at retail. If anyone's comfortable pm'ing me a link to a site they have found or "heard" was reliable, I would send them a few sticks when i get them!

TYIA CRGCPRO


where does he travel to ?
crgcpro Offline
#444 Posted: Thu, Jun 14 2012, 7:57 PM EST
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Middle East-High end airport shop
wheelrite Offline
#445 Posted: Thu, Jun 14 2012, 8:00 PM EST
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crgcpro wrote:
Middle East-High end airport shop


Really ?

I want some Cohibas from Yemen !!

Now I see why you spent $3000 here...

d'oh!
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#446 Posted: Thu, Jun 14 2012, 8:52 PM EST
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There's plenty of cigars your friend can pick up for you that would be worth paying retail for. Mostly b/c you can likely find some boxes with age. He'd have to know what to look for though.

I'd love to spend a couple hours in a LCDH hand picking my own boxes. With the caveat to that being I didn't have to worry about smuggling them home in my arse.
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#447 Posted: Thu, Jun 14 2012, 8:57 PM EST
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KPP wrote:
There's plenty of cigars your friend can pick up for you that would be worth paying retail for. Mostly b/c you can likely find some boxes with age. He'd have to know what to look for though.

I'd love to spend a couple hours in a LCDH hand picking my own boxes. With the caveat to that being I didn't have to worry about smuggling them home in my arse.



That's part of the problem as well. I think I could find my way around in there but he doesn't know much about cigars adn doesn't smoke them.

It's a huge store that has tons of 5'ers and variety but the only "shopping list" I can find online for them lists boxes and it's a bit limited. Thanks to a buddy, I found another spot already and have some of what I wanted ordered.
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#448 Posted: Thu, Jun 14 2012, 9:04 PM EST
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^ yup..figured if you flash a freebie or two around here in trade for some source info, someone would hook you up in no time!

Good luck and happy purchasing.
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#449 Posted: Fri, Jun 15 2012, 8:29 AM EST
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KPP wrote:
Been tempted to buy a cab of the 03 DDs actually but space is the prohibiting factor there.


Smoked my first one from an '03 cab I've had for about six months now. Unreal smoothness, woodsy and even a bit sweet. Not one dimensional at all, but the changes are subtle and pleasing Buy before there are none.
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#450 Posted: Fri, Jun 15 2012, 8:35 AM EST
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KPP wrote:
There's plenty of cigars your friend can pick up for you that would be worth paying retail for. Mostly b/c you can likely find some boxes with age. He'd have to know what to look for though.

I'd love to spend a couple hours in a LCDH hand picking my own boxes. With the caveat to that being I didn't have to worry about smuggling them home in my arse.


I never travel through customs with cigars. The one time you get busted and they are seized (even without a fine)could end up with you being listed as someone customs will always pull aside and search. Forever.
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