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January 6: The Season Finale
ZRX1200 Offline
#151 Posted:
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It obviously worked.

A BOTL here that should know better was fine with a guy who got let in, MOVED a lecture and performed a speech…..was jailed for months and is on probation for 5 years (also had a temporary GAG ORDER).

It’s funny seeing sane people willingly participating in propaganda.
JGKAMIN Offline
#152 Posted:
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frankj1 wrote:

Can't wait for Tucker's edited version of all the stuff McCarthy handed over.

No, instead of compressing it down to the important parts he’s going to show all of the footage. The premier is tonight and after 40000 hours of continuous unedited footage it should take us up to the fall of 2027.
frankj1 Offline
#153 Posted:
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hope I learn why 98.2% of the tourists had to smash their way in instead of just strolling through the doors being opened all over the place by the nice concierges.
And why none of the tourists brought their children for an educational experience regarding the peaceful transfer of power.
JGKAMIN Offline
#154 Posted:
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MACS wrote:
I want to see ALL video from ALL cameras, not just the cherry picked stuff. And remember the only person who was shot and killed was a protester who was not armed, and was not a danger to the cop that shot her.

Including the footage from the antifa instigator that was filming her murder while he was coercing her and others to breach that area and wreck havoc.

https://www.deseret.com/2021/8/11/22567499/who-shot-ashli-babbitt-trump-january-6-can-journalists-protest-john-sullivan-us-capitol-riot
frankj1 Offline
#155 Posted:
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did anyone video the construction of the gallows for Pence?
ZRX1200 Offline
#156 Posted:
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LMMFPWAO

Frank you need to get out more….I posted a link to the very thing you’re alluding to. Might wanna look into it brother
frankj1 Offline
#157 Posted:
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ZRX1200 wrote:
LMMFPWAO

Frank you need to get out more….I posted a link to the very thing you’re alluding to. Might wanna look into it brother

repost requested...

but before I watch, did it really happen or was it fake news?
HockeyDad Offline
#158 Posted:
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frankj1 wrote:
repost requested...

but before I watch, did it really happen or was it fake news?


It might have worked if Mike Pence weighed 40 pounds.
frankj1 Offline
#159 Posted:
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betcha there really was a noose, perhaps smaller in scale than we used to see on old Westerns, but pretty clear these weren't your run of the mill tourists.
HockeyDad Offline
#160 Posted:
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frankj1 wrote:
betcha there really was a noose, perhaps smaller in scale than we used to see on old Westerns, but pretty clear these weren't your run of the mill tourists.


There was a rope but take a look at the wobbly frame. This was disturbing imagery but not functional. Prolly built by the FBI.
ZRX1200 Offline
#161 Posted:
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It was flimsy plywood and 2x4’s that looked like they were assembled by a moron, and besides the “scale” the rope was hung too low to hang anything except a leprechaun. I’m guessing it was that height to maximize the effect when photographed from genpop heights.
rfenst Offline
#162 Posted:
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They should both be arrested and prosecuted.
Anyone who listened to them or was incited by them is an idiot and should be held accountable if they did anything wrong.
rfenst Offline
#163 Posted:
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Since it was released, which I don't object to, it should be released to any news or other entity that or citizen who wants it. Transparency is missing.
DrMaddVibe Offline
#164 Posted:
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rfenst wrote:
Since it was released, which I don't object to, it should be released to any news or other entity that or citizen who wants it. Transparency is missing.



So, it's like the Biden Administration?
DrMaddVibe Offline
#165 Posted:
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"They Lied To Us All": Tucker Exposes January 6 Fraud And Kangaroo-Court Cover-Up



On Monday night, Fox News' Tucker Carlson dropped unseen footage from the January 6, 2021 Capitol protest which revealed that the entire Democrat / RINO / MSM narrative underpinning the event was a complete lie.

For starters, the surveillance footage show Capitol Police calmly escorting the so-called "QAnon Shaman," Jacob Chansley, throughout the Capitol complex, and even helped him find open doors.

“The tapes show the Capitol police never stopped Jacob Chansley," said Carlson. "They helped him. They acted as his tour guides." Chansley and his two helpful Capitol police escorts make their way to the Senate chamber

Chansley, shirtless, adorned in red, white and blue face-paint and wearing a furry bison-head hat, emerged as one of the most iconic symbols of Jan 6. He was sentenced to 41 months in federal prison for "obstructing an official proceeding."

The video of Chansley is jarringly inconsistent with the leftist characterization of Jan. 6 as an "insurrection." Far from thwarting Chansley's ambition to reach the Senate chamber, two Capitol police officers escorted him there.

Along the way, the trio passed a large group of Capitol police officers, who appear disinterested in Chansley, even despite his flamboyant attire.

The video shows Chansley and his police escorts approaching various doors to the chamber, with a police officer pushing and pulling them to see if they're unlocked. An officer checks to see if this Senate door is locked -- it was, so the trio continued looking for a way to access the Senate chamber


In light of the new video, it's clear that a Nov 2021 Department of Justice press release hailing Chansley's prison sentence gave a grossly misleading description of how the Navy vet and Arizonan reached the Senate chamber: "Chansley continued into the building through a broken door at approximately 2:14 p.m. He kept moving, reaching the Gallery of the Senate and then the Senate floor."

"We counted at least nine officers who were within touching distance of unarmed Jacob Chansley," said Carlson on Monday. "Not one of them even tried to slow him down."

“The one very serious regret that I have [is] believing that when we were waved in by police officers that it was acceptable," 33-year-old Chansley said in an interview aired by Carlson.

Legacy media is no better at truth telling than the Soviet Pravda. Today we learn the truth: the Q-Anon Shaman was escorted around the capital and let into the Senate chambers by police. He even praised them for their hospitality. pic.twitter.com/AExUn5hzru
— Mythinformed MKE (@MythinformedMKE) March 7, 2023


"I was told the QAnon shaman was leading an insurrection not the one who is being led by police throughout the capital building. No wonder all the footage was kept from us for 2 years," tweeted Donald Trump Jr. "As always they lied to us all!"

Carlson also revealed that uncharged agitator Ray Epps lied during his sworn testimony.

"Epps testified that when he sent the text messages to his nephew, he had already left the Capitol grounds to return to his hotel room. That is not true," said Carlson.

Ray Epps Lied in His Sworn Testimony to the January 6 Committee, and Surveillance Footage Proves It

"Epps testified that when he sent the text messages to his nephew, he had already left the Capitol grounds to return to his hotel room. That is not true." pic.twitter.com/Hcae3GIsiM
— The Vigilant Fox 🦊 (@VigilantFox) March 7, 2023


The January 6th panel also lied about Sen. Josh Hawley being a coward.

"The actual videotape shows that Hawley was one of many lawmakers being ushered out of the building by Capitol Hill police officers, and in fact, Josh Hawley was at the back of the pack. The coward tape was a lie — one of many from the January 6th Committee."

The Josh Hawley Coward Tape Proves to Be a Lie After Further Review from the @TuckerCarlson Team

"The surveillance footage we reviewed shows that famous clip was a sham, edited deceptively by the January 6th Committee. The clip was propaganda, not evidence. The actual videotape… https://t.co/vbrGyz9hi3 pic.twitter.com/DDf4j1rEwx
— The Vigilant Fox 🦊 (@VigilantFox) March 7, 2023


We also learned that they lied about the death of Officer Brian Sicknick.

"The January 6th Committee knew perfectly well that Brian Sicknick was walking normally through the Capitol after he was supposedly murdered by Trump supporters. And they know that because they saw this tape. We can be sure because the footage contains an electronic bookmark that is still archived in the Capitol's computer system," said Carlson.

BREAKING - TAPE 2: @TuckerCarlson Tonight begins releasing Capitol surveillance footage from the Jan. 6 protests showing that most protesters were very peaceful, were even helped by the police. Here is the lie about the death of Officer Brian Sicknick. WATCH pic.twitter.com/a2GQlh70vv
— Simon Ateba (@simonateba) March 7, 2023

Carlson will air part two of the previously unseen January 6th footage on Tuesday night.

We now have irrefutable proof that @AdamKinzinger, @Liz_Cheney, and the rest of the sham committee lied about J6.

Every last one of them should be prosecuted.
— John Cardillo (@johncardillo) March 7, 2023


https://www.zerohedge.com/political/they-lied-us-all-tucker-exposes-january-6-fraud-and-kangaroo-court-cover



So, Lefty can meltdown into a puddle of goo. It was lies built on lies and repackaged for the gullible.

ZRX1200 Offline
#166 Posted:
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The Shaman was going to single-handedly overturn the election results you racist bigots!

I think you guys are really overlooking how dangerous these people that got let in were. One of them even assaulted a bullet for no reason from behind a window, cowardice!
Brewha Offline
#167 Posted:
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Wow, DMV believes Tucker Carlson?

Him and every other god damn fool….
ZRX1200 Offline
#168 Posted:
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Yeah that would be like believing the Jan 6th committee.

I’m old enough to remember BOTL here’s reaction to the 911 commission report……different times and different democrats.
DrMaddVibe Offline
#169 Posted:
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Brewha wrote:
Wow, DMV believes Tucker Carlson?

Him and every other god damn fool….





Said the biggest fool on CBid.
DrMaddVibe Offline
#170 Posted:
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Brewha wrote:
Wow, DMV believes Tucker Carlson?

Him and every other god damn fool….



Its like you have an aversion to seeing the truth. Then I remember you walk around with your eyes completely shut.
drglnc Offline
#171 Posted:
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ZRX1200 wrote:
The Shaman was going to single-handedly overturn the election results you racist bigots!

I think you guys are really overlooking how dangerous these people that got let in were. One of them even assaulted a bullet for no reason from behind a window, cowardice!


Behind a window? nope... the reinforced glass in the door had already been broken (less then 1 minute prior) by guys with flag poles and Helmets and she was being lifted up through the window... shot while attempting to step through...
MACS Offline
#172 Posted:
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^Unarmed white woman being pushed through a broken window. What threat did she pose that warranted being shot in the face?

The video doesn't lie. People have to ask themselves why in the holy hell would the MEDIA and the gov't NOT want ALL the video released.

Watch the videos. If, after seeing the videos and bouncing it off what we were told to believe, you are still thinking you were NOT lied to... I can't fathom why.

This is the world we live in, now. The people that are telling you to "think for yourself" are the ones wearing 2 masks, getting shotted and boosted, and swallowing whatever the gov't and the corrupt media outlets spew. Despite glaring video evidence to the contrary.

We have, indeed, jumped the shark.
ZRX1200 Offline
#173 Posted:
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Escalation of force reform by police is different when they’re MAGA people. They’re Nazis and need to be taken out, don’t worry we won’t call it what it is.
JGKAMIN Offline
#174 Posted:
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drglnc wrote:
Behind a window? nope... the reinforced glass in the door had already been broken (less then 1 minute prior) by guys with flag poles and Helmets and she was being lifted up through the window... shot while attempting to step through...

Instigated by an antifa agitator that was filming her murder while he was coercing her and others to breach that area and wreck havoc.

https://www.deseret.com/2021/8/11/22567499/who-shot-ashli-babbitt-trump-january-6-can-journalists-protest-john-sullivan-us-capitol-riot
Brewha Offline
#175 Posted:
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ZRX1200 wrote:
Yeah that would be like believing the Jan 6th committee.

I’m old enough to remember BOTL here’s reaction to the 911 commission report……different times and different democrats.

Aren't you one of the guys who never watched any of the committee hearings?
Brewha Offline
#176 Posted:
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DrMaddVibe wrote:
Its like you have an aversion to seeing the truth. Then I remember you walk around with your eyes completely shut.

Your 1st response (#169) was better....

whip
Brewha Offline
#177 Posted:
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MACS wrote:
^Unarmed white woman being pushed through a broken window. What threat did she pose that warranted being shot in the face?

.



LOL

Was she hog tied by Pelosi and forced to kneel before the gun too???

LOLLOLLOL
drglnc Offline
#178 Posted:
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JGKAMIN wrote:
Instigated by an antifa agitator that was filming her murder while he was coercing her and others to breach that area and wreck havoc.

https://www.deseret.com/2021/8/11/22567499/who-shot-ashli-babbitt-trump-january-6-can-journalists-protest-john-sullivan-us-capitol-riot



Murder? that is a JOKE... She was part of that group voluntarily, she was watching them break the windows, she can be seen in video yelling at offices and getting more agitated, you can also see in the video that group was aware of the armed officer behind that door... pointing a gun at them... She chose to go through that window... to a secure area... i think the phrase goes something like "play stupid Games, win stupid prizes" in this case... a bullet to the neck...
ZRX1200 Offline
#179 Posted:
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Watch? No.

See “highlights” from all flavors of “news”? Enough to make the statements I have.
Brewha Offline
#180 Posted:
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The police that got maced, beaten and bludgeoned by the MAGA insurrectionists did not deserve it. They we protecting the capital.

Ashli Babbitt earned every millimeter of that bullet.
Brewha Offline
#181 Posted:
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ZRX1200 wrote:
Watch? No.

See “highlights” from all flavors of “news”? Enough to make the statements I have.

Tucker Carlson - is not "news".
drglnc Offline
#182 Posted:
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MACS wrote:
^Unarmed white woman being pushed through a broken window. What threat did she pose that warranted being shot in the face?
Guess if she was an unarmed Black Man you would feel differently? im pretty sure that armed officer didnt know if she was armed or not... and felt the entire group was a "threat" considering the violent attack on the doors with fists, flag poles and helmets not to mention shouting Break it down and shouting "We don't want to hurt you but, were going inside" and "**** the Blue"... no sane person (her history of violence towards the wife of her boyfriend shows she wasn't sane to begin with) would have expected any other outcome to her actions... advancing on an officer with a gun drawn on you doesn't usually end any other way...


MACS wrote:

The video doesn't lie.


Your right... and the video shows her yelling in an officers face before he departs for fear of his own safety, then it shows her climbing through the window... before getting shot as any of them should have expected to happen...

You can try to play her as a victem but the reality is that it is a miracle more people were not shot that day.





ZRX1200 Offline
#183 Posted:
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Did I say that Brew? No. I do however make a point to watch a wide swath of koolaid flavors.

I’ll keep not believing my lying eyes though, thanks for the suggestion:
Brewha Offline
#184 Posted:
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ZRX1200 wrote:
Did I say that Brew? No. I do however make a point to watch a wide swath of koolaid flavors.

I’ll keep not believing my lying eyes though, thanks for the suggestion:

Sorry Z - did you say what?

No- you did not mention Tucker Carlson. That was sarcasm.

But remember; believing is seeing, not the other way around.
ZRX1200 Offline
#185 Posted:
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10-4 good buddy.
DrMaddVibe Offline
#186 Posted:
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Brewha wrote:
Your 1st response (#169) was better....

whip



Yeah...it was.
MACS Offline
#187 Posted:
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drglnc wrote:
Guess if she was an unarmed Black Man you would feel differently? im pretty sure that armed officer didnt know if she was armed or not... and felt the entire group was a "threat" considering the violent attack on the doors with fists, flag poles and helmets not to mention shouting Break it down and shouting "We don't want to hurt you but, were going inside" and "**** the Blue"... no sane person (her history of violence towards the wife of her boyfriend shows she wasn't sane to begin with) would have expected any other outcome to her actions... advancing on an officer with a gun drawn on you doesn't usually end any other way...




Your right... and the video shows her yelling in an officers face before he departs for fear of his own safety, then it shows her climbing through the window... before getting shot as any of them should have expected to happen...

You can try to play her as a victem but the reality is that it is a miracle more people were not shot that day.


I was an MP and a corrections officer, so if you cannot articulate the threat, you have no business shooting. You can't shoot someone because "maybe" they have a weapon, or "you don't know" if they do.

As far as your race baiting... no, it would be no different. But was she engaged with the officers? Was she fighting or physically resisting in any way? She was non-compliant and displaying no weapon. Less lethal would have been appropriate.
Brewha Offline
#188 Posted:
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ZRX1200 wrote:
10-4 good buddy.


Z, your PM box is full. So here is what I wrote you:


Good to hear from you Z.

I think he's just fed up with the tone the forum has these days. He is right about on thing though, there is not much honest debate of issues anymore. And we have a few that push their views as rudely as they can.

It's too bad. I used to have some really good conversations here.

I'm good and hope you well are too.

Happy trails Bro -
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#189 Posted:
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MACS wrote:
I was an MP and a corrections officer, so if you cannot articulate the threat, you have no business shooting. You can't shoot someone because "maybe" they have a weapon, or "you don't know" if they do.

As far as your race baiting... no, it would be no different. But was she engaged with the officers? Was she fighting or physically resisting in any way? She was non-compliant and displaying no weapon. Less lethal would have been appropriate.



Well Said MACS!! Applause Applause

I still don't know what video ya'll are discussing here? Surley wasn't George Floyd, unless he's now come out of the Casket to claim his Gender like Bruce errrr um Katelin fell out... d'oh! d'oh! Sarcasm
Brewha Offline
#190 Posted:
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DrMaddVibe wrote:
Yeah...it was.

Since you went to the trouble of editing the blank - you should have thought of something clever....
HockeyDad Offline
#191 Posted:
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RiverRatRuss wrote:
Well Said MACS!! Applause Applause

I still don't know what video ya'll are discussing here? Surley wasn't George Floyd, unless he's now come out of the Casket to claim his Gender like Bruce errrr um Katelin fell out... d'oh! d'oh! Sarcasm


https://www.nbcnews.com/news/amp-video/mmvo99180613572
drglnc Offline
#192 Posted:
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MACS wrote:
I was an MP and a corrections officer, so if you cannot articulate the threat, you have no business shooting. You can't shoot someone because "maybe" they have a weapon, or "you don't know" if they do.

As far as your race baiting... no, it would be no different. But was she engaged with the officers? Was she fighting or physically resisting in any way? She was non-compliant and displaying no weapon. Less lethal would have been appropriate.


YOU brought up her race... i was just clarifying...


And we know the threat can be "articulated" pretty damn easy... An angry mob shouting they want to "Hang mike pence" among many other threats of violance both veiled and overt breaking down doors and windows to sections of the building that ,literally seconds before had members of congress mere feet away... but sure... it was just a friendly little tour of upstanding citizens...


Stogie1020 Offline
#193 Posted:
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drglnc wrote:
YOU brought up her race... i was just clarifying...


And we know the threat can be "articulated" pretty damn easy... An angry mob shouting they want to "Hang mike pence" among many other threats of violance both veiled and overt breaking down doors and windows to sections of the building that ,literally seconds before had members of congress mere feet away... but sure... it was just a friendly little tour of upstanding citizens...



So, just to be clear, she was tresspassing, impeding the operation of government and part of "mostly peaceful" protest.

Sounds like lethal force was justified.

Maybe we should start shooting anyone who gets rowdy at a school board meeting? Or anyone who protests near a SCOTUS residence...
DrMaddVibe Offline
#194 Posted:
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Brewha wrote:
Since you went to the trouble of editing the blank - you should have thought of something clever....



Why? It was for you? You're dumber than a bag of hammers with a fart car!
Stogie1020 Offline
#195 Posted:
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DrMaddVibe wrote:
Why? It was for you? You're dumber than a bag of hammers with a fart car!

LOL Thanks, now I am cleaning coffee off my monitor...
drglnc Offline
#196 Posted:
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Seconds before the shooting the windows in both doors were shattered with fists, flag poles and helmets… people were chanting to hang the vice president and members of congress were still in the area… sounds real peaceful…
ZRX1200 Offline
#197 Posted:
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It was mostly peaceful.

~MSNBC
MACS Offline
#198 Posted:
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drglnc wrote:
YOU brought up her race... i was just clarifying...


And we know the threat can be "articulated" pretty damn easy... An angry mob shouting they want to "Hang mike pence" among many other threats of violance both veiled and overt breaking down doors and windows to sections of the building that ,literally seconds before had members of congress mere feet away... but sure... it was just a friendly little tour of upstanding citizens...


That was tongue in cheek for the media's frequent use of "unarmed black man" in video's that clearly show the perp in an actual, physical fight with police. In that case "armed" or not, if the officer loses the fight and his weapon... no bueno. Which = justification for deadly force. Watch the video HD posted. She's shot in the face by a cop on the other side of the door. MORE cops with AR's behind her. WHY shoot?

You think cops don't deal with angry mobs? Never worked in LE, have you?

And I'll guaran-damn-tee you if the officer was white and she was black, the media would be singing a different tune.
DrMaddVibe Offline
#199 Posted:
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Stogie1020 wrote:
LOL Thanks, now I am cleaning coffee off my monitor...



Sorry.
Brewha Offline
#200 Posted:
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DrMaddVibe wrote:
Why? It was for you? You're dumber than a bag of hammers with a fart car!

Dude, if you were any dumber….
They’d have to water you twice a week.
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