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DrMaddVibe Offline
#101 Posted: Fri, Dec 30 2022, 4:52 PM EST
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Viva Le Bastille-lite Day???
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#102 Posted: Fri, Dec 30 2022, 4:52 PM EST
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Merry Trumpmas!!!Herfing
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Happy AOC Knicker Day
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#104 Posted: Fri, Dec 30 2022, 4:54 PM EST
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Happy Catilyn Jenner Loppy Schloppy Snicky Wicky Day!
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#105 Posted: Fri, Dec 30 2022, 8:36 PM EST
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DrMaddVibe wrote:
Happy AOC Knicker Day


I'd like to think of this as Commando Day.
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#106 Posted: Fri, Dec 30 2022, 11:20 PM EST
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insurrection,

an organized and usually violent act of revolt or rebellion against an established government or governing authority of a nation-state or other political entity by a group of its citizens or subjects; also, any act of engaging in such a revolt.



is it wrong to relate this to trying to stop the process of Congress certifying an election...never mind building a gallows and hunting for the Vice President?
HockeyDad Offline
#107 Posted: Fri, Dec 30 2022, 11:29 PM EST
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frankj1 wrote:
insurrection,

an organized and usually violent act of revolt or rebellion against an established government or governing authority of a nation-state or other political entity by a group of its citizens or subjects; also, any act of engaging in such a revolt.



is it wrong to relate this to trying to stop the process of Congress certifying an election...never mind building a gallows and hunting for the Vice President?


No, it is not wrong. Using that definition we also suffered a series of almost daily insurrections during the summer of 2020.

Fortunately the empire withstood the insurrections.
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#108 Posted: Fri, Dec 30 2022, 11:55 PM EST
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HockeyDad wrote:
No, it is not wrong. Using that definition we also suffered a series of almost daily insurrections during the summer of 2020.

Fortunately the empire withstood the insurrections.

I don't feel that one looking at Jan 6 as an insurrection is doomed to defend other acts of violence.
I believe they are mutually exclusive.
Both inexcusable, but not linked by definition...use me as example #1.
HockeyDad Offline
#109 Posted: Sat, Dec 31 2022, 8:31 AM EST
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They can be mutually exclusive yet all are insurrections. 2020 was the year of insurrections.

Where the problem arises is that history shows us that prominent politicians supported some insurrections while were heavily opposed to other insurrections during 2020.
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#110 Posted: Sat, Dec 31 2022, 9:31 AM EST
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Jack and Jill went up the hill
To smoke a little leaf
Jack got high and dropped his fly
And Jill said, "Where's the beef?"
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#111 Posted: Sat, Dec 31 2022, 10:30 AM EST
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frankj1 wrote:
I don't feel that one looking at Jan 6 as an insurrection is doomed to defend other acts of violence.
I believe they are mutually exclusive.
Both inexcusable, but not linked by definition...use me as example #1.


They are mutually exclusive in a very hypocritical sort of manner.
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#112 Posted: Sat, Dec 31 2022, 11:45 AM EST
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I disagree. Though both were inexcusable exhibitions of protests turning into violence, that alone does not define insurrection.

Jan 6 were protests that had pre-planned purposeful goals that were intended to undo an election.

The protests that became riots had pre-planned goals of changing society's acceptance of racial injustice.

Both were out of control. But only one intentionally tried to make an illegal change to a foundation of Democracy.
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#113 Posted: Sat, Dec 31 2022, 2:08 PM EST
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frankj1 wrote:
I disagree. Though both were inexcusable exhibitions of protests turning into violence, that alone does not define insurrection.

Jan 6 were protests that had pre-planned purposeful goals that were intended to undo an election.

The protests that became riots had pre-planned goals of changing society's acceptance of racial injustice.

Both were out of control. But only one intentionally tried to make an illegal change to a foundation of Democracy.



Frying pan
DrMaddVibe Offline
#114 Posted: Sat, Dec 31 2022, 2:12 PM EST
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frankj1 wrote:
insurrection,

an organized and usually violent act of revolt or rebellion against an established government or governing authority of a nation-state or other political entity by a group of its citizens or subjects; also, any act of engaging in such a revolt.



is it wrong to relate this to trying to stop the process of Congress certifying an election...never mind building a gallows and hunting for the Vice President?



The Capitol Police are the only ones that killed someone on your supposed tragic day of insurrection.

Cling to it like a mask...a Marx ideal or your moms skirt. IDGAF.

THAT...was no insurrection. Just ask the FBI and their inside guy Epps.
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#115 Posted: Sat, Dec 31 2022, 2:51 PM EST
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Frank that’s a whole lotta assuming of intent and conjecture.

If only we had the government and media (almost the same thing these days) lying in each situation for a political outcome…..

Wait
RayR Offline
#116 Posted: Sat, Dec 31 2022, 3:06 PM EST
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Are you sayin' Frank believes everything the regime and their Pravda tells him?
ZRX1200 Offline
#117 Posted: Sat, Dec 31 2022, 4:00 PM EST
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No
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#118 Posted: Sat, Dec 31 2022, 4:49 PM EST
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ZRX1200 wrote:
No

HA!
Happy New Year bruddah.
RayR Offline
#119 Posted: Sat, Dec 31 2022, 5:06 PM EST
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ZRX1200 wrote:
No


OK...then Frank believes most of what the regime says and their Pravda tells him?
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#120 Posted: Sat, Dec 31 2022, 5:12 PM EST
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RayR wrote:
OK...then Frank believes most of what the regime says and their Pravda tells him?

shouldn't you be outside helping your wife shovel the driveway?
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#121 Posted: Sat, Dec 31 2022, 5:59 PM EST
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frankj1 wrote:
I disagree. Though both were inexcusable exhibitions of protests turning into violence, that alone does not define insurrection.

Jan 6 were protests that had pre-planned purposeful goals that were intended to undo an election.

The protests that became riots had pre-planned goals of changing society's acceptance of racial injustice.

Both were out of control. But only one intentionally tried to make an illegal change to a foundation of Democracy.


LOL!

Back when BLM were burning down America (and taking occupation within federal buildings for weeks on end), we had discussions right here on these boards.
We never used the term "insurrection", but "terrorism" was brandished on more than one occasion.

In both instances, it seems the majority of protesters were gathered under false circumstance while a select few set the wheels of destruction in motion.

I now want every thug who looted and burned and vandalized and injured during the BLM fiery festivities.
I want them all to have a tribunal with a one-sided prosecution, judge and jury.
A media team to flash the event highlights.
A catchy phrase like "insurrection" to make it appear worse than it really was.

Remember, those BLM thugs did their crime over and over and over and over again.
They occupied federal buildings for weeks or months.
They murdered multiple people.

These "insurrectionists" dispersed once the guard finally stood them down.


To be clear: arrest those who planned and executed this weaponless attack. And then do the same for BLM.

Anything less is hypocritical.
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#122 Posted: Sat, Dec 31 2022, 6:11 PM EST
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Agreed. Both acts (several instances for the one) warranted arrest and prosecution.
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#123 Posted: Sat, Dec 31 2022, 6:16 PM EST
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Sunoverbeach wrote:
Agreed. Both acts (several instances for the one) warranted arrest and prosecution.

Racist.
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#124 Posted: Sat, Dec 31 2022, 6:28 PM EST
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tailgater wrote:
LOL!

Back when BLM were burning down America (and taking occupation within federal buildings for weeks on end), we had discussions right here on these boards.
We never used the term "insurrection", but "terrorism" was brandished on more than one occasion.

In both instances, it seems the majority of protesters were gathered under false circumstance while a select few set the wheels of destruction in motion.

I now want every thug who looted and burned and vandalized and injured during the BLM fiery festivities.
I want them all to have a tribunal with a one-sided prosecution, judge and jury.
A media team to flash the event highlights.
A catchy phrase like "insurrection" to make it appear worse than it really was.

Remember, those BLM thugs did their crime over and over and over and over again.
They occupied federal buildings for weeks or months.
They murdered multiple people.

These "insurrectionists" dispersed once the guard finally stood them down.


To be clear: arrest those who planned and executed this weaponless attack. And then do the same for BLM.

Anything less is hypocritical.

in 108 I wrote:

I don't feel that one looking at Jan 6 as an insurrection is doomed to defend other acts of violence.

and yet you expect me to defend them?

why would you think I'm defending the violence of the BLM riots? I simply don't see them qualifying as the definition of insurrection the way I do see attempting to overthrow the results of an election.
That is a far cry from defending the destruction left in the wake of the Summer protests.

BLM Summer had a zillion posts here. This is about the insurrection. BLM comparisons are a deflection and I still feel mutually exclusive from Jan 6. Some commonalities? Sure. Same can be said about the Tulsa "riots", but that is also mutually exclusive from Jan 6.

Different names for different crimes. Both violent. One tries to overthrow the elected government and has a specific word for that crime. Would it be more palatable if it was called a coup?

I didn't see a judge nor jury when I watched.


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#125 Posted: Sat, Dec 31 2022, 8:31 PM EST
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frankj1 wrote:
I disagree. Though both were inexcusable exhibitions of protests turning into violence, that alone does not define insurrection.

Jan 6 were protests that had pre-planned purposeful goals that were intended to undo an election.

The protests that became riots had pre-planned goals of changing society's acceptance of racial injustice.

Both were out of control. But only one intentionally tried to make an illegal change to a foundation of Democracy.


“an organized and usually violent act of revolt or rebellion against an established government or governing authority of a nation-state or other political entity by a group of its citizens or subjects; also, any act of engaging in such a revolt.”

You already defined insurrection. I don’t see anything about pre-planned goals in there.

I don’t think you get to disagree with your own definition of insurrection!

Kinda sounds like you are in favor of some insurrections.
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#126 Posted: Sun, Jan 1 2023, 12:24 AM EST
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HockeyDad wrote:
“an organized and usually violent act of revolt or rebellion against an established government or governing authority of a nation-state or other political entity by a group of its citizens or subjects; also, any act of engaging in such a revolt.”

You already defined insurrection. I don’t see anything about pre-planned goals in there.

I don’t think you get to disagree with your own definition of insurrection!

Kinda sounds like you are in favor of some insurrections.

I don't doubt that there may be times when I would.

I am an American, after all.
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#127 Posted: Sun, Jan 1 2023, 5:04 PM EST
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frankj1 wrote:
in 108 I wrote:

I don't feel that one looking at Jan 6 as an insurrection is doomed to defend other acts of violence.

and yet you expect me to defend them?

why would you think I'm defending the violence of the BLM riots? I simply don't see them qualifying as the definition of insurrection the way I do see attempting to overthrow the results of an election.
That is a far cry from defending the destruction left in the wake of the Summer protests.

BLM Summer had a zillion posts here. This is about the insurrection. BLM comparisons are a deflection and I still feel mutually exclusive from Jan 6. Some commonalities? Sure. Same can be said about the Tulsa "riots", but that is also mutually exclusive from Jan 6.

Different names for different crimes. Both violent. One tries to overthrow the elected government and has a specific word for that crime. Would it be more palatable if it was called a coup?

I didn't see a judge nor jury when I watched.




You are separating the two, and it's based purely on politics.
If BLM had only ONE mass-burning, then it would be correct to categorize the Jan 6th event as being worse. But BLM didn't merely take us hostage for an entire summer. They had support from the media and even our politicians. The only "support" for Jan 6th are those who won't condemn it with sufficient fervor to gain favor with Pelosi's minions.

Overthrow the elected government? What fits that definition better? Occupying federal buildings (and en entire city block) for over a month? Or an unarmed attack that had zero organization beyond the initial breach?

Hang those who planned it. Literally.
But justice already ignored the BLM destruction. Asking to hold them just as accountable is hardly a "deflection". And it's a shame to categorize it as such.
RayR Offline
#128 Posted: Sun, Jan 1 2023, 5:38 PM EST
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The violent thugs of "The Summer of Love" will never be brought to justice because ...they vote Democrat.
The "peaceful protesters" had the full approval of Kamala Lala and as she told Stephen Colbert, “They are not going to stop, they are not going to stop, and nor should they,”
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#129 Posted: Sun, Jan 1 2023, 5:52 PM EST
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Well... who did "Jan 6th" actually end up benefiting? Once you understand that, you'll understand who made it happen.
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#130 Posted: Thu, Jan 5 2023, 5:11 PM EST
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Two years later and still no clue about the pipe bombs placed on January 5, 2021, so the rewards have been increased. Odd, there’s no shortage of evidence and video feeds for the events the day after, all wrapped up in the Hollywood productions that were aired in prime time,

https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/reward-climbs-500k-information-suspect-pipe-bombs-day/story?id=96184838
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#131 Posted: Thu, Jan 5 2023, 5:20 PM EST
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And the one guy who claimed responsibility is a ghost.

That’s not suspicious at all…pretty sure this was ran on the 911 commission framework like a madlib.
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#132 Posted: Thu, Jan 5 2023, 6:20 PM EST
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MACS wrote:
Well... who did "Jan 6th" actually end up benefiting? Once you understand that, you'll understand who made it happen.

It gave Trump a woody….




First time in years I heard.
ZRX1200 Offline
#133 Posted: Thu, Jan 5 2023, 6:24 PM EST
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When you have grabbed as much ****y as he has you can judge him for that…..
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#134 Posted: Thu, Jan 5 2023, 6:52 PM EST
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Not judging - But we know he didn’t see it without a mirror.
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#135 Posted: Thu, Jan 5 2023, 6:57 PM EST
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I may be wrong…..but I’m guessing he was more interested in looking at the fine eastern block dames. If he wanted to look at it he could have one of his yes men take a pic from the nose in arse position.
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#136 Posted: Thu, Jan 5 2023, 7:42 PM EST
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Like there isn't already a pic of it on Hunter's laptop.
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#137 Posted: Thu, Jan 5 2023, 7:43 PM EST
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That’s the only thing on it that’s not Russian disinformation.
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#138 Posted: Fri, Jan 6 2023, 11:26 AM EST
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Today is Jan. 6th. Happy Fake Insurrection Day everyone! 🎆🎈🧨

Democrats are celebrating with speeches and stuff. Biden will award the "Presidential Citizens Medal" to 12 people, "These 12 heroes demonstrated courage and selflessness during a moment of peril for our nation," a White House official said.
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#139 Posted: Fri, Jan 6 2023, 1:48 PM EST
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Is he giving a medal to the anonymous murderer of the veteran gal?
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#140 Posted: Fri, Jan 6 2023, 1:50 PM EST
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ZRX1200 wrote:
Is he giving a medal to the anonymous murderer of the veteran gal?


…and the FBI guy who planted the “pipe bombs”?
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#141 Posted: Fri, Jan 6 2023, 1:52 PM EST
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RayR wrote:
Today is Jan. 6th. Happy Fake Insurrection Day everyone! 🎆🎈🧨

Democrats are celebrating with speeches and stuff. Biden will award the "Presidential Citizens Medal" to 12 people, "These 12 heroes demonstrated courage and selflessness during a moment of peril for our nation," a White House official said.




Or Ray Epps Day as I call it.
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#142 Posted: Fri, Jan 6 2023, 1:52 PM EST
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They should hang the Viking on the Capitol steps today to send a message to other Vikings so they don’t get any ideas.
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#143 Posted: Fri, Jan 6 2023, 1:56 PM EST
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Lets all have a moment of silence for the worst day, ever in the history of our Country.
Democracy was almost lost that day- we should all take a moment and reflect and if you are still registered Republican , then consider self-flaying for 6 minutes.

Worse than Pearl Harbor and 911 combined.

Mobs with no weapons for the insurrection, but I think a bag of hammers was found.
Some "leader" with viking headgear on and animal skin, taking center stage at the podium.

As The Simpsons' Comic Book Guy would say

"Worst insurrection....Ever!"
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#144 Posted: Fri, Jan 6 2023, 1:58 PM EST
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I want a national holiday.
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#145 Posted: Fri, Jan 6 2023, 2:03 PM EST
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Yes, that should be the next order of business for the Dems.. better yet. Executive Order for Jan 6 National holiday.

Also a Jan 6 minting on the dollar coin- or just remove George Washington from the dollar Bill with a big "Jan 6" stamp.. cuz he was just a old white racist guy anyway.
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#146 Posted: Fri, Jan 6 2023, 2:03 PM EST
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One other thing the Democrats will be celebrating...Biden's political prisoners held in the regime gulag.

JANUARY 6TH HERO OF THE YEAR: A Special Tribute to Ashli Babbitt’s Mom from America’s Political Prisoners! BEAUTIFUL VIDEO and LETTERS!!

By Cara Castronuova
Published January 6, 2023 at 9:00am

Quote:
Today marks the two year anniversary of January 6th. Over one hundred political prisoners of the Biden Regime still languish in prison two years later, most of them pre-trial detainees being held UNCONSTITUTIONALLY.

But when there is darkness, a hero is bound to eventually emerge- and sometimes in the most unexpected form.

In this case, that hero is tiny Micki Witthoeft, the mother of slain warrior Ashli Babbitt. Micki moved to Washington DC from her home in San Diego, California, to become a voice for the voiceless- the January 6th Political Prisoner languishing inside the walls of DC Gitmo.

More...

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2023/01/january-6th-hero-year-special-tribute-ashli-babbitts-mom-americas-political-prisoners-beautiful-video-letters/
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#147 Posted: Thu, Feb 23 2023, 7:45 AM EST
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Federal Court Asked to Unseal Undercover Police Video Allegedly Showing Officer Inciting Capitol Protesters on Jan. 6



A Jan. 6 defendant asked U.S. District Judge Rudolph Contreras to unseal a video allegedly showing an undercover Metropolitan Police Department officer shouting “drain the swamp!” and “our house!” and encouraging protesters to climb barricades and enter the U.S. Capitol.

William Pope of Topeka, Kansas, filed a motion on Feb. 21 that would also unseal video shot by two other MPD undercover officers who trailed Ashli Babbitt up the northwest exterior of the Capitol.

One of those officers repeatedly predicted that someone would get shot on Jan. 6, Pope contended in another motion filed in November 2022.

“While my descriptions of the undercover MPD officers are accurate, the media and the public should not have to rely on my descriptions alone,” Pope wrote.

“It is in the interests of justice that this exhibit in support of my motion be seen by all.”

Pope also asked the court to remove the seal from a wider sampling of the MPD video shot by undercover operatives.

The undercover video is among 41,000 hours of footage held under court seal by the U.S. Department of Justice.

Pope and other Jan. 6 defendants who are representing themselves in court are seeking more complete access to evidence databases controlled by federal prosecutors.
‘Drain the Swamp!’

In his November motion, Pope said that “Officer 1” climbed over a police barricade on the northwest side of the Capitol exterior. The officer joined the crowd in chanting, “drain the swamp!” and “whose house? Our house!”

Officer 1—dressed in goggles, a dark jacket, and a striped face gaiter—pushed protesters in front of him as he cajoled them to keep moving toward the Capitol entrance, Pope wrote.

If these descriptions are borne out on the undercover video, it would be the most direct evidence to date of government provocateurs inciting the crowd to commit crimes on Jan. 6.

It also raises serious questions about what interactions Officer 2 and Officer 3 might have had with Babbitt.

“The fact that Mrs. Babbitt appeared emotional[ly] charged by the time she reached the top of the steps could indicate that undercover government operatives influenced her behavior through their repeated chants and urgings to advance up the steps towards the Capitol,” Pope wrote.

Babbitt entered the Capitol at the top of the northwest stairs and a short time later made her way into a hallway outside of the Speaker’s Lobby.

At about 2:45 p.m., she was shot by Capitol Police Lt. Michael Byrd. Babbitt was pronounced dead about 30 minutes later at a D.C. hospital.

“Since the public interest and concern regarding these exhibits is understandably high, and since the government has already hidden these important facts from the American people for more than two years, I ask this honorable court to grant this motion as soon as possible,” Pope wrote.

Pope’s request came a day after disclosure that House Speaker Kevin McCarthy (R-Calif.) gave a copy of all 41,000 hours of Jan. 6 security video, body-camera footage, and other videos exclusively to Tucker Carlson at Fox News.

News of the special dispensation for Carlson and Fox drew a mixed reaction, with some Jan. 6 defendants and independent investigators slamming the move.

https://www.theepochtimes.com/federal-court-asked-to-unseal-undercover-police-video-allegedly-showing-officer-inciting-capitol-protesters-on-jan-6_5074768.html?ea_src=ai&ea_med=search


Huh...imagine that.
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#148 Posted: Thu, Feb 23 2023, 12:00 PM EST
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imagine that there could actually be some military and/or police force employees who believe in far right ideology! Just like left wing lunatics, they exist.

several right wing groups, including KKK and other hate groups, were fairly open a several decades ago in declaring that their methods had been failing. They planned to drop the robes and hoods and other symbols of hate that most of America from all parties rejected and go "mainstream"...cut back or cut off the burning cross rallies, the displays of racial and religious hate and persecution, and replace them with planting seeds in our governments and institutions of safety and security...like local and state police, all branches of our military, and on and on...as a long term plan to not just infiltrate but sway the nation.

I never doubted a few of you had real video of a few Capitol Police being complicit in the efforts to stop the peaceful process of transition. But so far we are fortunate those seeds planted decades ago have not been more fruitful.

Yes, what some have claimed has happened, but that shouldn't equate with denying the far more massive evidence of what really happened that day. It just raises the level of concern.

Can't wait for Tucker's edited version of all the stuff McCarthy handed over.
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#149 Posted: Thu, Feb 23 2023, 1:23 PM EST
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frankj1 wrote:
imagine that there could actually be some military and/or police force employees who believe in far right ideology! Just like left wing lunatics, they exist.

several right wing groups, including KKK and other hate groups, were fairly open a several decades ago in declaring that their methods had been failing. They planned to drop the robes and hoods and other symbols of hate that most of America from all parties rejected and go "mainstream"...cut back or cut off the burning cross rallies, the displays of racial and religious hate and persecution, and replace them with planting seeds in our governments and institutions of safety and security...like local and state police, all branches of our military, and on and on...as a long term plan to not just infiltrate but sway the nation.

I never doubted a few of you had real video of a few Capitol Police being complicit in the efforts to stop the peaceful process of transition. But so far we are fortunate those seeds planted decades ago have not been more fruitful.

Yes, what some have claimed has happened, but that shouldn't equate with denying the far more massive evidence of what really happened that day. It just raises the level of concern.

Can't wait for Tucker's edited version of all the stuff McCarthy handed over.


Whoa whoa whoa...let's back this hate wagon on up...The KKK? That's was the DNC!

The "insurrection" was a manufactured event and to blame it all on Trump is just an insult on intelligence. There's so much video with links on this site to substantiate what I've been saying all along, the Capitol Police not only removed the barriers, but unlocked and opened doors for the "rioters". They stood idly by and didn't call in any reserves. The only person killed that day was by a Capitol Policeman. The former President realized that the National Guard was going to be needed, but if he called them in then it's an actual invasion. Nancy Pelosi and the mayor of Washington DC refused to sign and acknowledge the request. Thus the debacle was cast and set into motion by them. A bunch of dufuses with buffalo heads and masks running around hallways and offices never set any fires, killed anyone but they never should've been allowed inside or near the Capitol building. The paranoia is so deep now that when President Bidet gave his butchered version of a State of the Union recently...he put up the wire fences and and the NG on the ready. Yea...just what you wanted. Now why in the world would they do that? Seriously.
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#150 Posted: Thu, Feb 23 2023, 1:40 PM EST
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I want to see ALL video from ALL cameras, not just the cherry picked stuff. And remember the only person who was shot and killed was a protester who was not armed, and was not a danger to the cop that shot her.
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