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2024 Election Predictions
rfenst Offline
#51 Posted:
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Gene363 wrote:
A reasonable point, however when despots control media/propaganda and the judicial system the alternatives are quite narrow.

They may not be. But, that certainly isn't the present situation at all.
Gene363 Offline
#52 Posted:
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rfenst wrote:
They may not be. But, that certainly isn't the present situation at all.


Albeit a terrifying thought, I believe it most certainly true. The media and most social networking sites have admited following propaganda directives from the government.
Abrignac Offline
#53 Posted:
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Never in my 50+ years on this planet have I seen such an inept group as is the House Republican Caucus. They give new mean to the word "cannibal.'

The situation is so dire in fact that the for the first time in history control of the House is in danger of flipping midterm. As it stands right now there are 431 seated members in the House; 218 R's and 213 D's.

Gallager or Wisconsin plans to leave in April. When he does the count will be 430 members: 217 R's and 213 D's. There won't be a special election for that seat since he plans to leave after the deadline for holding a special election to fill the seat.

In April, Democrats are expected to pick up a seat when a special election is held to replace Higgins of New York. If that happens the count is expected to be 431 with 217 R's and 214 D's.

That leaves a 3-vote majority. However, other Republicans have hinted at leaving early. It only takes a couple since in case of a tie any motion fails.

Amazing how the Republicans thought they would have a 20-50 vote majority after the midterms when coupled a President who had historically low approval ratings.

One of the problems facing Republicans when trying to appeal to undecided voters is their obsession with replacing Speakers. McCarthy was brought down due to spending by a guy who inserted one of the most expensive earmarks into the current spending bill. Now it looks like his replacement may be brought down by a member of his own caucus who inserted 5 earmarks herself.

In addition, it seems like every time you turn around, they want to impeach someone. If it isn't Mayorkas its Garland. Hell, if I didn't know better, I'd think they are hell bent on impeaching Hunter Biden even though he doesn't hold office.

Now they have rallied around the absolute worst person they could have nominated for President. With such a weak opponent all the Republicans needed to do was pick a non-controversial candidate with experience in government and that person would win in a landslide. Instead, the pick the one person whose approval ratings match the idiot they are trying to replace and run the risk of not only losing the Presidential race but get hosed in the Senate and House elections as well.
Abrignac Offline
#54 Posted:
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Gene363 wrote:
A reasonable point, however when despots control media/propaganda and the judicial system the alternatives are quite narrow.


Not really. You seek to control the narrative. However, the Republicans are awful at doing so.
8trackdisco Offline
#55 Posted:
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Sometimes, smart people believe stupid things.

They’d rather go down with their Cinnamon Faux Messiah, than win elections and effectively govern the country.

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#56 Posted:
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8trackdisco wrote:
Sometimes, smart people believe stupid things.

They’d rather go down with their Cinnamon Faux Messiah, than win elections and effectively govern the country.



Ive been thinking about this. Though I voted for him twice already I just can’t stomach doing it again. On the other hand I’d wouldn’t vote for Biden if he were the only candidate on the ballot. So what am I to do?

Considering Louisiana is a solid red state Trump will probably carry it with a double digit lead. There is no situation where Biden will come close. So I think I’ll vote for RFK Jr. Perhaps if enough voters begin to seriously consider someone other than the candidates put forth by the Reps and Dems the parties will get the message and stop pushing for extremist candidates.
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#57 Posted:
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Abrignac wrote:
Ive been thinking about this. Though I voted for him twice already I just can’t stomach doing it again. On the other hand I’d wouldn’t vote for Biden if he were the only candidate on the ballot. So what am I to do?

Considering Louisiana is a solid red state Trump will probably carry it with a double digit lead. There is no situation where Biden will come close. So I think I’ll vote for RFK Jr. Perhaps if enough voters begin to seriously consider someone other than the candidates put forth by the Reps and Dems the parties will get the message and stop pushing for extremist candidates.


Wisconsin is one of the swing states. I’m voting JFK Jr.
My wife is in the quandary of most reasonable people; knows Biden is a dismal failure, and he’s a coin flip to be incapacitated while in office. She won’t vote for a potential President Harris. Trump sickens her.
Her vote will be a game time decision.
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#58 Posted:
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Wisconsin primary results.
Trump only got 79% of the republican vote.
Haley got 74,000 votes (13% of the Republican vote).
Made me smile.

Wisconsin certainly is on the edge of the swing.
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#59 Posted:
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There was a lot of hay in the local media that Trump should be worried he didn't pull out the matching numbers from his last campaign.

On some other forums I belong to...it was commonly understood he had already sown up the GOP nomination. There was nothing else on the ballot but the Presidential ticket. Keep the powder dry.

I wouldn't read too much into the "tea leaves" until November.
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#60 Posted:
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DrMaddVibe wrote:
There was a lot of hay in the local media that Trump should be worried he didn't pull out the matching numbers from his last campaign.

On some other forums I belong to...it was commonly understood he had already sown up the GOP nomination. There was nothing else on the ballot but the Presidential ticket. Keep the powder dry.

I wouldn't read too much into the "tea leaves" until November.


Or at least October.
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#61 Posted:
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https://thenationalpulse.com/2024/04/05/rfk-apologizes-after-briefly-appearing-to-back-j6-defendants/


Oooops!


Dems are still gonna dem!
Speyside2 Offline
#62 Posted:
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I am pretty much over it as far as politics go. Of the people, by the people, and for the people was forgotten long ago. We vote for conservative oligarchs or liberal oligarchs, our government is not run by politicians, it is run by oligarchs. This has been the demise of every great society. I think the only uncertainties are how long will the demise take, will we land like Rome or Great Britain, and who will be the next great society?
RayR Offline
#63 Posted:
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You are right Spey, all governments are just growing gangs of thieves and killers pretending to be the rightful rulers.
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#64 Posted:
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Speyside2 wrote:
I am pretty much over it as far as politics go. Of the people, by the people, and for the people was forgotten long ago. We vote for conservative oligarchs or liberal oligarchs, our government is not run by politicians, it is run by oligarchs. This has been the demise of every great society. I think the only uncertainties are how long will the demise take, will we land like Rome or Great Britain, and who will be the next great society?

Every society known to man has fallen inevitably.
Just a question of how long it will take and where we are on the curve.
Abrignac Offline
#65 Posted:
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So Trump has gone on record as being in favor of the individual states deciding what if any abortion rights will exist within a particular state as long as there are exceptions for rape, incest and mother’s health. Shortly thereafter Pence said he slapped right to lifer supporters in the face by not supporting a federal ban.

Makes sense to me. I mean a candidate who is trying to get elected should take a stand opposite what 62ish percent of the polled electorate strongly support. Sounds like sage advice to me. Remind me why Republicans couldn’t take the Senate and an overwhelming majority in the House in an midterm election when the sitting President who happens to be in the opposition party was enjoying some of the lowest approval ratings in recorded history.

I see an interesting road ahead of the Republican Party. Eventually moderates will leave the party and perhaps form a third party and hand over the Republican Party to the evangelical right which controls about 20% of the total electorate. If we’re lucky, enough moderates will leave the Democratic Party as well and join the moderate ex-Republicans thus moving the country more towards the center. Perhaps they will have a large enough majority to end the extremism and get back to legislating our way out of this mess.
rfenst Offline
#66 Posted:
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Anth, I agree.

Speaking of the religous right, did you read what MJT said: It was to the effect of: "The recent earthquakes and tornadoes in the U.S. are a "sign from God that our country needs to repent."
HockeyDad Offline
#67 Posted:
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rfenst wrote:
Anth, I agree.

Speaking of the religous right, did you read what MJT said: It was to the effect of: "The recent earthquakes and tornadoes in the U.S. are a "sign from God that our country needs to repent."


If an 8.0 hits San Francisco she might be right.

In the meantime liberals think the eclipse and earthquake are a sign from the God of climate change.
Abrignac Offline
#68 Posted:
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rfenst wrote:
Anth, I agree.

Speaking of the religous right, did you read what MJT said: It was to the effect of: "The recent earthquakes and tornadoes in the U.S. are a "sign from God that our country needs to repent."



What's scary is that at least 20% of the electorate would agree with her.
rfenst Offline
#69 Posted:
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HockeyDad wrote:
If an 8.0 hits San Francisco she might be right.

In the meantime liberals think the eclipse and earthquake are a sign from the God of climate change.

What's it like to make chit up about liberals?
ZRX1200 Online
#70 Posted:
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When he does I’m sure he’ll tell us….
HockeyDad Offline
#71 Posted:
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rfenst wrote:
What's it like to make chit up about liberals?


You must have missed “The View”.
rfenst Offline
#72 Posted:
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HockeyDad wrote:
You must have missed “The View”.

What's that?
HockeyDad Offline
#73 Posted:
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https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/sunny-hostin-makes-shocking-claim-111134284.html
Mr. Jones Online
#74 Posted:
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Biden wins

Trump gets convicted of a felony

All hell breaks loose...

Riots in Alabama, Wyoming , Arizona and Florida
Mr. Jones Online
#75 Posted:
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Who the hell is "MJT" ?

U MEAN MTG?
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#76 Posted:
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Mr. Jones wrote:
Biden wins

Trump gets convicted of a felony

All hell breaks loose...

Riots in Alabama, Wyoming , Arizona and Florida


Meanwhile, deep in the Allegheny Mountains...crickets
ZRX1200 Online
#77 Posted:
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The last time states tried removing a presidential nominee from their ballot great things happened right?

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