8trackdisco wrote:Thanks Frank.
Had hopes for the better angels of his nature would appreciate my response.
Took the TR clean air, water, and land preservation as everything a True Conservative is.
Blew the rest of the points off.
98.2% of the time, I enjoy listening to a person with a differing view. He’s still the one trick pony he was 90 days ago when I blocked his blowhard posts. Obviously a man who never built anything or anybody up. Seeing what he doesn’t bring to the table makes me see why some people are pro abortion.
Back to the muting him and engaging in discussions with people I value.
I'm sorry I insulted your progressive hero TR. I'm sorry if I can't build up upon your cartoonish knowledge of TR.
I've never heard "true conservative" defined as one who conserves the air, the water and the land. That's a new one to me.
We probably should put all property in the hands of politicians and bureaucrats and give the Imperial President total dicktatorial powers like Teddy greatly expanded; you know he wrote 10 times more Executive Orders than any previous POTUS, don't ya?
Teddy fanboy Timothy Egan, author of
The Big Burn: Teddy Roosevelt and the Fire that Saved America, inadvertently exposed the true dicktatorial nature of Bully Boy Teddy in an interview on NPR when he said this...
Quote:“Consider this: Roosevelt basically bequeathed us with an area about the size of France that every American owns. . . . He did it by executive order. . . I mean he famously said when he created the first wildlife refuge, he asked his attorney general, he said is there any law that will prevent me from declaring Pelican Island — this is in Florida — a federal bird reserve? And his attorney general told him there was no such law. And Roosevelt said, very well, then I do so declare it. And that’s how the National Wildlife Refuge System was started.”
"I do so declare it", now that's a True Conservative for ya, eh?
Let's face facts here, you like so many others aren't interested in engaging in discussion, you aren't interested in knowing anything beyond those cartoonish images in your head of government and your heroes. You don't present a case defending your claims or debunking any of the facts I provide because you can't. It's must easier for you to blow it all off, ain't it?
I await a real debater to emerge, you or Spey or Frank or anybody? I fear it's going to be a long wait.
I'll leave you here with something to make you grimmest, ignore, block out of your mind, or whatever you choose about your alleged true conservative hero. Mark Twain was not only a talented writer; he was a pretty astute observer of politicians and government. You probably hate him for all the mean things he said about Teddy.
Mark Twain Dismantles Teddy RooseveltBy Michael Martin
March 24, 2023
Quote:For generations, both mainstream and armchair historians alike have perpetuated a variety of myths about Teddy Roosevelt. According to their interpretations, Roosevelt practically defeated the Spanish in 1898 by himself, dug the Panama Canal with his bare hands, and took on the evil, monopolistic corporations against all odds and in spite of his wealthy upbringing.
However, not all of his contemporaries agreed with this assessment. Mark Twain, for example, was extremely critical of Roosevelt and once said the following about Teddy:
“We have never had a President before who was destitute of self-respect & of respect for his high office; we have had no President before who was not a gentleman; we have had no President before who was intended for a butcher, a dive-keeper or a bully, & missed his mission by compulsion of circumstances over which he had no control.”
The truth is that Teddy Roosevelt was a career politician that spent his entire life overcompensating and working to craft a very particular image of himself. This behavior probably stemmed from the fact that his father, Theodore Roosevelt Sr., was a draft dodging chicken-hawk. Despite his outspoken support of the North during the Civil War and his membership in the Union League Club, Theodore Roosevelt Sr. decided to pay for a replacement rather than serve in the army once New York instituted a draft.
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https://www.abbevilleinstitute.org/mark-twain-dismantles-teddy-roosevelt/