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triodes Offline
#1 Posted: Sat, Jul 13 2013, 9:06 PM EST
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I wasn't going to post this, but I've learned more from this forum than I expected. Thought I would share something that has helped me a lot.

After a smoking session, I take about a 1/3 teaspoon of regular baking soda in my mouth, add some water and rinse it around for 2 or 3 minutes and then rinse with water.

Neutralizes a good bit of the cigar effects on my tongue. Been doing this for years.

About 6 months ago, after the baking soda rinse added a salt rinse after the baking soda, about 1/6 teaspoon salt and water - again for two or three minutes.

Works very well for me.

YMMV.
dpnewell Offline
#2 Posted: Sat, Jul 13 2013, 9:13 PM EST
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I find that citrus based mouth wash works way better then mint. Also a tongue scraper is good to use every couple days. You'd be shocked at how much crap comes off your tongue. I may have to try the baking soda.
Abrignac Offline
#3 Posted: Sat, Jul 13 2013, 9:14 PM EST
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Do I have this correct? You smoke a cigar, then you choke yourself with baking soda to get the taste out of your mouth?

Ok...........if you say so.........
dpnewell Offline
#4 Posted: Sat, Jul 13 2013, 9:24 PM EST
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Abrignac wrote:
Do I have this correct? You smoke a cigar, then you choke yourself with baking soda to get the taste out of your mouth?

Ok...........if you say so.........


I'm thinking more of doing it once at the end of the day. I get more action when my breath doesn't stink of cigar. Whistle
mikey1597 Offline
#5 Posted: Sat, Jul 13 2013, 9:37 PM EST
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Stink?
engletl Offline
#6 Posted: Sat, Jul 13 2013, 9:45 PM EST
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Hydrogen peroxide works wonders
dpnewell Offline
#7 Posted: Sat, Jul 13 2013, 9:49 PM EST
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mikey1597 wrote:
Stink?


Her word, not mine.
Ilovetosmoke68 Offline
#8 Posted: Sat, Jul 13 2013, 9:51 PM EST
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I try not to smoke cigars that leave a bad taste in the mouth. If i do have to rinse, i use bourbon.
sd72 Offline
#9 Posted: Sat, Jul 13 2013, 9:53 PM EST
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Finally, some wisdom. ^^^^
triodes Offline
#10 Posted: Sat, Jul 13 2013, 10:20 PM EST
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Abrignac wrote:
Do I have this correct? You smoke a cigar, then you choke yourself with baking soda to get the taste out of your mouth?

Ok...........if you say so.........

Actually, the process "refreshes" my mouth to a more natural state, or at least seems to do so.

If you don't realize that smoking makes changes to your tongue and throat, you are not paying attention.

FWIW, I started this after having throat irritation from smoking cigars. If I smoke too much, it can happen.

Went to my GP, who took one look and referred me to a throat cancer specialist.

Thankfully, I did not have cancer.

But, I did have an irritated tongue and mouth.

This is one way of reducing the level of irritation and keeping a more natural palette.

I also cut back how much I smoke.

You want to ignore the potential for oral cancer and laugh at it?

Go right ahead.

I cannot help but wonder how much you guys will laugh when you have been pushing more than you should for 30 years or more.

Heh, Heh. Let me tell you, when you get referred to a throat cancer specialist it changes your perspective.

You find very little humor or sarcasm in that situation.

YMMV
Abrignac Offline
#11 Posted: Sat, Jul 13 2013, 11:01 PM EST
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dpnewell wrote:
I get more action when my breath doesn't stink of cigar. Whistle


That's more like it.

My wife tells me I stink as well if I've smoked too many cigars. In fact she said that to me last night. Right before we celebrated my birthday, again.
Abrignac Offline
#12 Posted: Sat, Jul 13 2013, 11:02 PM EST
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triodes wrote:
Actually, the process "refreshes" my mouth to a more natural state, or at least seems to do so.

If you don't realize that smoking makes changes to your tongue and throat, you are not paying attention.

FWIW, I started this after having throat irritation from smoking cigars. If I smoke too much, it can happen.

Went to my GP, who took one look and referred me to a throat cancer specialist.

Thankfully, I did not have cancer.

But, I did have an irritated tongue and mouth.

This is one way of reducing the level of irritation and keeping a more natural palette.

I also cut back how much I smoke.

You want to ignore the potential for oral cancer and laugh at it?

Go right ahead.

I cannot help but wonder how much you guys will laugh when you have been pushing more than you should for 30 years or more.

Heh, Heh. Let me tell you, when you get referred to a throat cancer specialist it changes your perspective.

You find very little humor or sarcasm in that situation.

YMMV


Ok
cwilhelmi Offline
#13 Posted: Sun, Jul 14 2013, 2:10 PM EST
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For the last year I've had a diminished sense of taste. Probably a mix of all the nicorette I chew as well as smoking more cigars. Brushing/scraping the hell out of my tongue has helped, but I think I'll try this as well. It also helps for the morning after not to have such a foul mouth.

Some of you may laugh, but it pissed me off when I smoked a Cohiba Sublime last summer and barely tasted it...that was the cue to figure out what the heck was happening. Luckily my dentist said I have no problems going on but recommended the warm salt rinsing as well to clear off the back of the tongue. Now I'll try the baking soda to see if it helps.
smokestaxx Offline
#14 Posted: Sun, Jul 14 2013, 2:13 PM EST
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i just smoke through my nose when i cant taste with my tongue
Mandoman Offline
#15 Posted: Sun, Jul 14 2013, 2:23 PM EST
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smokestaxx wrote:
i just smoke through my nose when i cant taste with my tongue


Doncha get boogers all over yer ceegar that way ????

Confused Confused Confused
smokestaxx Offline
#16 Posted: Sun, Jul 14 2013, 2:36 PM EST
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not if you pick your nose first.
nyuk nyuk nyuk
CelticBomber Offline
#17 Posted: Sun, Jul 14 2013, 2:56 PM EST
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About ten years back I had a benign growth removed from inside my nose. Ever since then I've had a heightened sense of smell and taste (both senses are linked in case you didn't know) I can very easily pick out notes in a cigar especially if I retrohale. I always smell things way before anyone else. I brush 2 to 3 times a day and am constantly flossing because of it.
Palama Offline
#18 Posted: Sun, Jul 14 2013, 3:00 PM EST
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I had my wife pick up an extra box of baking soda when you first told me about this but hadn't tried it yet. However, it's good that you posted your "technique" up, it sounds like it may help someone.

Aloha! ThumpUp
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#19 Posted: Mon, Jul 15 2013, 4:20 PM EST
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engletl wrote:
Hydrogen peroxide works wonders

+1
rfenst Offline
#20 Posted: Mon, Jul 15 2013, 4:56 PM EST
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I just go down on my wife and my mouth tastes fine if I don't end up with any hairs...
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#21 Posted: Mon, Jul 15 2013, 5:08 PM EST
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triodes wrote:
I wasn't going to post this, but I've learned more from this forum than I expected. Thought I would share something that has helped me a lot.

After a smoking session, I take about a 1/3 teaspoon of regular baking soda in my mouth, add some water and rinse it around for 2 or 3 minutes and then rinse with water.

Neutralizes a good bit of the cigar effects on my tongue. Been doing this for years.

About 6 months ago, after the baking soda rinse added a salt rinse after the baking soda, about 1/6 teaspoon salt and water - again for two or three minutes.

Works very well for me.

YMMV.

Lots of sodium, but I might try a version of it. thanks
CelticBomber Offline
#22 Posted: Mon, Jul 15 2013, 5:49 PM EST
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engletl wrote:
Hydrogen peroxide works wonders



If you ever have a sore throat pour some peroxide into a glass of warm water and add a teaspoon of salt and gargle. Works like a charm. Tastes awful but it really works.
jeferris Offline
#23 Posted: Mon, Jul 15 2013, 5:57 PM EST
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How does your throat get irritated smoking a cigar? Didn't think smoke went down there. Guess I'll pay more attention next time I burn one...
triodes Offline
#24 Posted: Mon, Jul 15 2013, 6:19 PM EST
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jeferris wrote:
How does your throat get irritated smoking a cigar? Didn't think smoke went down there. Guess I'll pay more attention next time I burn one...


At the back of your mouth, where I believe your tonsils are located is what I am talking about.

"throat" might not be the correct word, but I am not sure what else to call it.

Past what I consider roof of my mouth to be, and prior to the beginning of esophagus.

Same area inflamed as when you get "a sore throat"

Exactly the same area.
rfenst wrote:
I just go down on my wife and my mouth tastes fine if I don't end up with any hairs...

heh, heh.
After Micheal Douglas announced that he contracted oral cancer from performing cunnilingus, DR Sonje Gupta went on one of the late night shows and stated that "more white males over the age of 40 have oral cancer from performing oral sex (HPV) than contract cancer from smoking and drinking.

If you are gonna get oral cancer, that is the way to go, IMO
jeferris Offline
#25 Posted: Mon, Jul 15 2013, 6:26 PM EST
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10-4...makes sense, thanks.
Abrignac Offline
#26 Posted: Mon, Jul 15 2013, 6:52 PM EST
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CelticBomber wrote:
About ten years back I had a benign growth removed from inside my nose. Ever since then I've had a heightened sense of smell and taste (both senses are linked in case you didn't know) I can very easily pick out notes in a cigar especially if I retrohale. I always smell things way before anyone else. I brush 2 to 3 times a day and am constantly flossing because of it.



I've always wondered, what does a roach fart smell like?




Frying pan
Abrignac Offline
#27 Posted: Mon, Jul 15 2013, 6:53 PM EST
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rfenst wrote:
I just go down on my wife and my mouth tastes fine if I don't end up with any hairs...



Groupon has a Brazilian wax coupon. HTH



horse
ZRX1200 Offline
#28 Posted: Mon, Jul 15 2013, 7:14 PM EST
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Rfenster how does that help us?
wheelrite Offline
#29 Posted: Mon, Jul 15 2013, 7:23 PM EST
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ZRX1200 wrote:
Rfenster how does that help us?


Robert is just trying to look hip and stuff,,,,
ZRX1200 Offline
#30 Posted: Mon, Jul 15 2013, 7:48 PM EST
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Well I'd rather hear that then he's a swinger.
ZRX1200 Offline
#31 Posted: Mon, Jul 15 2013, 7:49 PM EST
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Wait.......



He's NOT hip?
wheelrite Offline
#32 Posted: Mon, Jul 15 2013, 7:56 PM EST
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ZRX1200 wrote:
Wait.......



He's NOT hip?


no,,,,,,
Palama Offline
#33 Posted: Sat, Jul 20 2013, 4:15 AM EST
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Hey Ken;

After smoking two seegars tonight, I tried the baking soda rinse and it seemed to help me lessen the aftertaste. I didn't do the salt rinse, I'll try again next time but just wanted to let you know that it seemed to work for me. Mahalos for the tip.
triodes Offline
#34 Posted: Sat, Jul 20 2013, 9:55 AM EST
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Glad it seems to be working for you.

Anything that helps smoke more cigars has gotta be good!

regards

Ken
SMGBobbyScott Offline
#35 Posted: Sat, Jul 20 2013, 10:05 AM EST
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Personally, I use a peroxide based mouthwash but the bourbon idea sounds MUCH better!
JoePepin Offline
#36 Posted: Sat, Jul 20 2013, 5:51 PM EST
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I didn't know smoking cigars was harmful. The only guy who has tongue and throat issues is Michael Douglashorse
ekeeton Offline
#37 Posted: Mon, Jul 22 2013, 9:37 PM EST
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So if I give up cigars do I get Catherine Zeta-Jones?
Palama Offline
#38 Posted: Sun, Jan 15 2023, 8:10 PM EST
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Ken’s tip might help some of youse.
PapaWhiskey Offline
#39 Posted: Sun, Jan 15 2023, 8:42 PM EST
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triodes wrote:
I wasn't going to post this, but I've learned more from this forum than I expected. Thought I would share something that has helped me a lot.

After a smoking session, I take about a 1/3 teaspoon of regular baking soda in my mouth, add some water and rinse it around for 2 or 3 minutes and then rinse with water.

Neutralizes a good bit of the cigar effects on my tongue. Been doing this for years.

About 6 months ago, after the baking soda rinse added a salt rinse after the baking soda, about 1/6 teaspoon salt and water - again for two or three minutes.

Works very well for me.

YMMV.


Good tip! Thanks for posting this.
PapaWhiskey Offline
#40 Posted: Sun, Jan 15 2023, 8:53 PM EST
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engletl wrote:
Hydrogen peroxide works wonders


I agree and rinse my mouth with it. It's also great for healing wounds. I've been banged up more than a few times in my life and doctors are always impressed with how fast I heal abrasions and lacerations. The key is the hydrogen peroxide. Pour that stuff on any open wound until it stops bubbling every time you wash and you will heal much faster than without. Good stuff. I have a friend who has been drinking a half a shot of hydrogen peroxide every morning for several years now and he swears it keeps all ailments away. Not sure about this but it's great for wound healing.
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