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Ram27 Offline
#401 Posted: Thu, Dec 28 2023, 8:12 AM EST
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RiverRatRuss wrote:
Mornin Ya'll... could snow.. d'oh!

SO anyone good with MS Office? I'm running Office 2007 upgraded from Office 2000. and my dinosaur laptop PowerPoint program keeps locking up asking for updates, well the only update is MS Office 365... the Mrs. has this on her laptop, personal, and I'm to tight to spend the money for the Business upgrade.. but probably will have to, just to get this project completed... DOH!!!

My question is, if I upgrade to 365 will my saved files update as well or will I have to create them new? TIA for any inputs!!!



Check with Bucky..........


Morning peeps......ram27bat
deadeyedick Offline
#402 Posted: Thu, Dec 28 2023, 8:22 AM EST
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Morning.

Thoughts and prayers for Bucky's flu. Funny how it almost always hits around a weekend.
danmdevries Offline
#403 Posted: Thu, Dec 28 2023, 9:13 AM EST
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Happy Thursday fellas.

Spam n eggs on rice this morning. Figgy pudding flavored spam. Smells like old ladies but tastes much better.
danmdevries Offline
#404 Posted: Thu, Dec 28 2023, 9:20 AM EST
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Russ have you looked into open office instead? Cross compatible, less bloat runs better on more systems, and its free
RiverRatRuss Offline
#405 Posted: Thu, Dec 28 2023, 9:33 AM EST
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danmdevries wrote:
Russ have you looked into open office instead? Cross compatible, less bloat runs better on more systems, and its free


Hmmm.. Nope never heard of it, but Thanks I'll check it out... this laptop has been upgraded with the windows 10 platform btw.. I think this may be part of my problem with the old Office program not wanting to run right...
danmdevries Offline
#406 Posted: Thu, Dec 28 2023, 10:35 AM EST
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RiverRatRuss wrote:
Hmmm.. Nope never heard of it, but Thanks I'll check it out... this laptop has been upgraded with the windows 10 platform btw.. I think this may be part of my problem with the old Office program not wanting to run right...



https://www.libreoffice.org/
DrMaddVibe Offline
#407 Posted: Thu, Dec 28 2023, 10:37 AM EST
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danmdevries wrote:
https://www.libreoffice.org/



Hell yes.

Stop using M$. They don't need the money.
RiverRatRuss Offline
#408 Posted: Thu, Dec 28 2023, 10:43 AM EST
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DrMaddVibe wrote:
Hell yes.

Stop using M$. They don't need the money.


Ok Ok I've got to ask this one question... will it run my already created MS Office document files? or will I have to try and save them as this new program or create new files?

where I am at right now, copying my word documents into a PowerPoint presentation and this is where my MS Office systems are locking up... I'd pull my hair out if I had any!!! LOL
danmdevries Offline
#409 Posted: Thu, Dec 28 2023, 11:05 AM EST
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If the files aren't corrupted, it can use them.

That's what's great about it. It's free and compatible with the paid standards
Gene363 Offline
#410 Posted: Thu, Dec 28 2023, 11:15 AM EST
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Good Thursday Morning to All! It's a cloudy 51° on the way to 60° today. Enjoying some very hot coffee in my ember heated coffee cup, a Christmas gift from a Grandson and his lovely wife.
deadeyedick Offline
#411 Posted: Thu, Dec 28 2023, 11:34 AM EST
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I came back from my morning 5 miler to find two distinct tracks of some hooved animals had gone through my front yard. Anybody missing some cows?
danmdevries Offline
#412 Posted: Thu, Dec 28 2023, 2:06 PM EST
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Grocery store for burger buns.

Back to the couch. Another boring day.
Abrignac Offline
#413 Posted: Thu, Dec 28 2023, 2:23 PM EST
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RiverRatRuss wrote:
Ok Ok I've got to ask this one question... will it run my already created MS Office document files? or will I have to try and save them as this new program or create new files?

where I am at right now, copying my word documents into a PowerPoint presentation and this is where my MS Office systems are locking up... I'd pull my hair out if I had any!!! LOL


For the most part you have absolutely nothing to worry about. Generally data files are independent of the software used to create/open them. In some instances it’s possible that new programs will convert data files to a new standard, but even so usually the new standard is backwards compatible to the older standards. For example excel has been saving files with a .xlsx. Prior to Office 2007 the excel file extension was .xls. However, in newer versions of excel you can save the file as an .xls if you anticipate using legacy software. Most free versions of software use the same file formats and extensions as the commercial versions. Just make sure that’s the case before you go converting old files to a new file type.
BuckyB93 Offline
#414 Posted: Thu, Dec 28 2023, 5:38 PM EST
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RiverRatRuss wrote:
Ok Ok I've got to ask this one question... will it run my already created MS Office document files? or will I have to try and save them as this new program or create new files?

where I am at right now, copying my word documents into a PowerPoint presentation and this is where my MS Office systems are locking up... I'd pull my hair out if I had any!!! LOL


Newer versions of Office are backward compatible meaning that they should be able to read files created on previous versions as long as they are not corrupted as danm said.

If you are installing a fresh copy of Office 2007 it has a ton of updates that wants. It came out in 2006 and they stopped supporting it in 2017 so there's about 11 years of updates that it will want to do (security updates as such). Your system might not catch them all right away when you tell it to look for updates, it may take a few days for it to catch them all and some of the updates require a reboot. With that said it should work just fine even without having it completing all of it's updates.

I still use Office 2007 and install it on machines that I inherit to rebuild and donate. Sometimes it takes like 3 days of telling it to check for updates for the system to find all the Office 2007 updates. It still runs and is solid. If you need a fresh copy of Office 2007, drop me a message and I can mail you an install Office 2007 on a thumb drive. It's the Enterprise version that includes just about every Office package: Word, Excel, PowerPoint, Outlook, Picture Manger, Publisher, Access, One Note, and a couple others..

Also as others have said LibreOffice and OpenOffice are rather popular. They are open source software (free) that does most everything MS Office can do. They both can read and save to MS versions along with other formats that can be read by most operating systems including Linux and Mac and by most other software packages. LibreOffice and OpenOffice are pretty similar (they are related) and the user interface looks a lot like MS Office. There is a little bit to get used to like where things are located in the pull down menus but it's not complicated by any means. I've used both but slightly lean toward. LibreOffice.

In LibreOffice it has Writer (word processor like Word), Calc (spreadsheet like Excel), Impress (like PowerPoint), Base (database like Access), Draw (make cards and stuff like Publisher).

I'm not a fan of Office 365 but I have to use it at work. At home I use Office 2007 or LibreOffice.
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#415 Posted: Thu, Dec 28 2023, 7:12 PM EST
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I always get a little anxious this time of year. My wife's birthday is 12/31 and I have always cooked a birthday dinner for her at home. Neither of us want to venture out to a restaurant and compete with those crazies celebrating the end of one year and the beginning of another.

She asked for a prime rib roast this year...it's been awhile since I made one...both of our kids and their families will join us along with our SIL's Mother...7 adults and four kids. Figure a 10 lb roast should be plenty. Making garlic mashed potatoes...daughter making Brussels sprouts and my son will make a green salad. Wife asked for a white cake with whipped cream frosting and fresh fruit topping.
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#416 Posted: Thu, Dec 28 2023, 7:35 PM EST
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Plan on a rib roast New Years Day... only side I requested was French onion soup... not sure what else is on the menu... I've never made escargots at home. Not even sure where to find them around here.. [
Think
BuckyB93 Offline
#417 Posted: Thu, Dec 28 2023, 7:58 PM EST
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^ That sounds yummy from both Drafter (except for the snails) and delta.

It will be a small gathering here. Me, daughter, son, his girlfriend. We don't have a meal planned set in stone.

Prolly do up a couple rib eyes for those that want beef, do up some chicken breast for those that want chicken. I have a craving for a nice bacon cheeseburger, my tummy tells me I should digest one of those, and maybe make more of those if others want them. I'm a simpleton (mental note, need to buy some bacon) but how can you pass up a nice bacon cheeseburger?

Daughter works on the weekends at a coffee/bakery/bagel/cheese cake place that's only open for breakfast and lunch. The goods are made fresh every morning and they toss out stuff that they don't sell at the end of the day so she'll probably have the deserts covered.

Looking forward to a relaxing 4 day weekend.

Oh, wait... I'm sick, bed ridden and might die before the New Year. My belly is not cooperating, my sinuses are plugged, I have a splitting headache, I stubbed my pinky toe and so on. (actually my boss mentioned to me that I have 25 hrs of sick time and if it isn't used I lose it... know what I mean? wink wink, nod, nod).

This week at work has been skeleton crew. Folks have been burning sick time and vacation hours that they can't carry over. Spring and summer are the busy times of the company. As fall and winter sets in, it slows down.
Ram27 Offline
#418 Posted: Thu, Dec 28 2023, 8:55 PM EST
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Setting up for Bucky ram27bat
DrafterX Offline
#419 Posted: Thu, Dec 28 2023, 9:16 PM EST
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Mellow
Ram27 Offline
#420 Posted: Thu, Dec 28 2023, 10:29 PM EST
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Brick wall
BuckyB93 Offline
#421 Posted: Thu, Dec 28 2023, 10:46 PM EST
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I didn't get here in time. Dafter stole it. Pretty sure I'll survive.

Oh wait, I'm sick tomorrow. I look pale and and flushed (can you look pale and flushed at the same time?)

If not, I developed a new sickness. Flushypale syndrome, better known as FPS. It's a rare illness. It lasts a day or so but someone with FPS might need a blood transfusion and stuff. Full treatments are to yet to be determined.

Take 2 aspirins and call me in the morning. Unless you don't like aspirin. Then take two Skittles or eat some beef jerky and call the Doc in the morning.
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#422 Posted: Fri, Dec 29 2023, 6:51 AM EST
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Happy Friday fellas.
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#423 Posted: Fri, Dec 29 2023, 8:24 AM EST
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BuckyB93 wrote:

Oh wait, I'm sick tomorrow. I look pale and and flushed (can you look pale and flushed at the same time?).


I’ve been doing a lot more flushing in the last few weeks and I’m paler.
Ram27 Offline
#424 Posted: Fri, Dec 29 2023, 8:44 AM EST
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Hello Friday, hello gang................ram27bat
DrMaddVibe Offline
#425 Posted: Fri, Dec 29 2023, 10:12 AM EST
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BuckyB93 wrote:

This week at work has been skeleton crew. Folks have been burning sick time and vacation hours that they can't carry over. Spring and summer are the busy times of the company. As fall and winter sets in, it slows down.



And that is the life in IT. Been that way since the early 90s. Used to go balls to the wall 365/24-7 but Accounting needed to rack the books soooo.

Good luck and HNY
BuckyB93 Offline
#426 Posted: Fri, Dec 29 2023, 10:13 AM EST
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Sup folks? We have a slow draining sink in the bathroom. It's not plugged but just slow draining. Prolly a flush with liquid plumber will fix it.

Need to do a little grocery shopping so I'll pick up a jug of liquid plumber. The sink shares the same plumbing pipes with the tub/shower. My guess is its hair blockage from the shower. Since I virtually have no hair and my son and daughter both have hair, I blame the kids.

A minor thing on the list to do. Oh wait, I'm sick and need a blood transfusion. I should probably address that after I hit the grocery store.
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#427 Posted: Fri, Dec 29 2023, 10:21 AM EST
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Great way to end the year, one of the guys at work went into management. So I took his spot as a generator mechanic now. We (4 of us) maintain around 500 generators around our service area. Same pay but it comes with a truck that I get to park less than 5 min from the house.
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#428 Posted: Fri, Dec 29 2023, 10:52 AM EST
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Think maybe I'll take wife n boy bowling today.

I almost want to go back to work. Weather sucks and I have nothing going on indoors. Don't want to spend any money doing things or starting new projects since I blew all my fun money on Christmas and need new fun money for Florida trip.
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#429 Posted: Fri, Dec 29 2023, 11:03 AM EST
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4 2 NEIN.
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#430 Posted: Fri, Dec 29 2023, 11:22 AM EST
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Good Friday Morning to All! It's a windy 44° on the way to 49° today.
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#431 Posted: Fri, Dec 29 2023, 11:34 AM EST
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BuckyB93 wrote:
Sup folks? We have a slow draining sink in the bathroom. It's not plugged but just slow draining. Prolly a flush with liquid plumber will fix it.

Need to do a little grocery shopping so I'll pick up a jug of liquid plumber. The sink shares the same plumbing pipes with the tub/shower. My guess is its hair blockage from the shower. Since I virtually have no hair and my son and daughter both have hair, I blame the kids.

A minor thing on the list to do. Oh wait, I'm sick and need a blood transfusion. I should probably address that after I hit the grocery store.


Pop off the drain plate in the shower and pull out the hair ball. I did that recently and it was amazing how much hair there was. Iffn I'm not mistaking Liquid Plumber is harmful to the pipes.
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#432 Posted: Fri, Dec 29 2023, 11:36 AM EST
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danmdevries wrote:
Think maybe I'll take wife n boy bowling today.

I almost want to go back to work. Weather sucks and I have nothing going on indoors. Don't want to spend any money doing things or starting new projects since I blew all my fun money on Christmas and need new fun money for Florida trip.


Hope you have a better experience than I did. Still have a sore glutus maximus from about a week ago.
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#433 Posted: Fri, Dec 29 2023, 12:15 PM EST
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deadeyedick wrote:
Pop off the drain plate in the shower and pull out the hair ball. I did that recently and it was amazing how much hair there was. Iffn I'm not mistaking Liquid Plumber is harmful to the pipes.



Good advice, Bucky. I did the same for a slow draining shower and pulled a hair plug out...drains fine now. To keep all of our drains running well, I use an enzyme every three months, then follow up the next day with a flush with a large pot of hot, nearly boiling, water. I also do a thorough flush every two years or so, by systematically opening all the hot water taps and letting them run for 15 minutes, followed by a cold water flush.
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#434 Posted: Fri, Dec 29 2023, 12:23 PM EST
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Yup...boiling hot pots of water followed with bleach.
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#435 Posted: Fri, Dec 29 2023, 1:12 PM EST
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Actually did baking soda followed by vinegar (it fizzes for some physical action and the vinegar helps to break up soap scum) then followed by boiling water. Seems to work and there is no standing water. It's not a big deal, just sort of annoying to have an inch of water while it slowly drains away. It only happens in the bathroom sink and tub/shower. The $ihitter works fine, kitchen sink works fine.

First world annoyances. I'm sure I will recover from the bathroom sink slow drain thingy.
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#436 Posted: Fri, Dec 29 2023, 1:54 PM EST
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Cheno wrote:
Great way to end the year, one of the guys at work went into management. So I took his spot as a generator mechanic now. We (4 of us) maintain around 500 generators around our service area. Same pay but it comes with a truck that I get to park less than 5 min from the house.


Congrats on the position change. Hopefully less crazy work hours so more family time. You don’t get to rewind the clock.
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#437 Posted: Fri, Dec 29 2023, 4:48 PM EST
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Palama wrote:
Congrats on the position change. Hopefully less crazy work hours so more family time. You don’t get to rewind the clock.


Unfortunately no, it will be the same amount of overtime. I finished the year with 543 hours of ot. The rest of the department fell between 460-570 hours. And crew leaders being between 750-870 hours. Usually it's not so bad if it's spread out over time but when it's a lot at once that is what makes it hard on the family.
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#438 Posted: Fri, Dec 29 2023, 6:58 PM EST
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Family, friends and personal peace has no dollar value. It's easier to find another job rather then to find another family, friends, and personal peace.

I've burned the candle at both ends and it burned me out. It took me sometime to recognize that it wasn't working out.
BuckyB93 Offline
#439 Posted: Fri, Dec 29 2023, 6:59 PM EST
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Four tree NINE!
Ram27 Offline
#440 Posted: Fri, Dec 29 2023, 7:32 PM EST
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Good catch Bucky Applause

Evening peeps....
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#441 Posted: Fri, Dec 29 2023, 9:08 PM EST
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My chore of the day is to replace the kitchen faucet. I’m losing. I can’t get this nut off.
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#442 Posted: Fri, Dec 29 2023, 9:22 PM EST
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HockeyDad wrote:
My chore of the day is to replace the kitchen faucet. I’m losing. I can’t get this nut off.


I had to hack saw our 8 year old faucet, it was a PITA to get of. Brick wall

OTOH, I bought a replacement that included pre-attached hoses to connect to the supply valves and all the fasteners were accessible from the top
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#443 Posted: Fri, Dec 29 2023, 9:43 PM EST
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Replacing modern faucets is rather easy, it's climbing under the vanity or the cabinet and getting at the nuts that sucks. A faucet wrench is mandatory but it's still a pain in the ass and franks with your back.
Ram27 Offline
#444 Posted: Fri, Dec 29 2023, 9:57 PM EST
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Call a plumber..

......problem solved.
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#445 Posted: Sat, Dec 30 2023, 6:35 AM EST
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Happy Saturday fellas

Wife's side coming over for Christmas at noon. Still gotta cook things n stuff
Ram27 Offline
#446 Posted: Sat, Dec 30 2023, 7:14 AM EST
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Welcome to Saturday................


..................enjoy. ram27bat
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#447 Posted: Sat, Dec 30 2023, 7:24 AM EST
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A nice 50/71 day on tap here. Happy Saturday folks.
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#448 Posted: Sat, Dec 30 2023, 8:06 AM EST
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BuckyB93 wrote:
Family, friends and personal peace has no dollar value. It's easier to find another job rather then to find another family, friends, and personal peace.

I've burned the candle at both ends and it burned me out. It took me sometime to recognize that it wasn't working out.


Only took me 30 years and a couple health setbacks to learn that lesson.
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#449 Posted: Sat, Dec 30 2023, 8:09 AM EST
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44 NEIN.

Forecast of a new 500 for a new year.
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#450 Posted: Sat, Dec 30 2023, 9:05 AM EST
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BuckyB93 wrote:
Replacing modern faucets is rather easy, it's climbing under the vanity or the cabinet and getting at the nuts that sucks. A faucet wrench is mandatory but it's still a pain in the ass and franks with your back.


A faucet wrench and metal cutting reciprocating saw blades did the trick.
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