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The Biden Recession
HockeyDad Offline
#251 Posted:
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You should be piling into stocks, worrying about government debt, AND fearing recession.

The only question is timing.
DrMaddVibe Offline
#252 Posted:
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And just like all if the Biden Administration economic numbers...the revision will wipe away all the gains months later. Itty bitty headlines on Page 11...buried under the Dear Abby column.
HockeyDad Offline
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Hershey announced layoffs Thursday after reporting its quarterly earnings were hit by the soaring cost of cocoa and inflation-weary shoppers who cut back on the company’s expensive chocolates and candies.

The Pennsylvania-based company said it would slash 5% of its workforce, resulting in as much as $60 million in severance.

It wasn’t immediately clear how many jobs among the company’s workforce of roughly 18,075 full-time and nearly 2,000 part-time staffers would be affected, or what teams would be impacted.

“We do not expect significant disruption or impact to our employee base with impact being less than 5% of our workforce,” a Hershey spokesperson told The Post on Thursday.

The Reese’s Peanut Butter Cups-maker said that the layoffs are part of a new multi-year productivity initiative to generate long-term savings as the company looks to offset declining sales in the face of rising cocoa, sugar and labor costs.

The move is intended to generate pre-tax costs of $200 million to $250 million from inception through 2026.
frankj1 Offline
#254 Posted:
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hopefully corporate bonuses won't be affected...HA!
Abrignac Offline
#255 Posted:
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frankj1 wrote:
hopefully corporate bonuses won't be affected...HA!


Let’s hope they are robust. That means the company did well.
HockeyDad Offline
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frankj1 wrote:
hopefully corporate bonuses won't be affected...HA!


I’m a little worried about this quarter.
RayR Offline
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I heard the soaring cost of cocoa is being caused by climate change, due to El Niño forecasted for next season and too much rain in West Africa. The price of cocoa beans has reached over $4,200 per metric ton, the highest in more than four decades.
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While testifying before the Senate Banking Committee on Thursday, Yellen admitted that prices for most items are unlikely to return to where they were before the inflation crisis began in 2021.

"I don't expect the level of prices to go down. Some prices will be higher than they were before the pandemic, and will stay higher," Yellen said during a contentious exchange with Sen. John Kennedy, R-La. "But wages have risen considerably, and the pace of price increases has now receded over the past six months."

Prices for everything including groceries, new cars and health insurance surged in 2021 and 2022 as the result of rampant inflation, which was caused by pandemic-induced disruptions in the global supply chain, an extremely tight labor market and increased consumer demand fueled in part by stimulus cash.

But even though the pace of inflation has cooled sharply in recent months, prices for most goods have not yet receded — and are unlikely to do so, Yellen said.

"We don't have to get the prices down, because wages are going up," she said, noting that the median worker in the U.S. can buy the same basket of goods as they did in 2019 with $1,400 leftover. "So Americans, on average, are better off in spite of the fact that the level of prices is higher."

Federal Reserve Chair Jerome Powell echoed a similar sentiment in an interview with "60 Minutes" that aired on Sunday.

HockeyDad Offline
#259 Posted:
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I’m sure most would agree that the pay raises they got over the last few years outpaced inflation!
RayR Offline
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There are 3 kinds of lies...Lies, Damn Lies, and Government Statistics.
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(Reuters) - Network giant Cisco is planning to restructure its business which will include laying off thousands of employees, as it seeks to focus on high-growth areas, according to three sources familiar with the matter.

The San Jose, California-based company has a total employee count of 84,900 as of fiscal 2023, according to its website.

The company is still deciding on the total number of employees to be affected by the layoffs, one person said.

An announcement could come as early as next week, as the company prepares for its earnings call on Feb. 14.
DrMaddVibe Offline
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HockeyDad wrote:
I’m sure most would agree that the pay raises they got over the last few years outpaced inflation!



Um....
DrMaddVibe Offline
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For those keeping score...


1. Twitch: 35% of workforce
2. Roomba: 31% of workforce
3. Hasbro: 20% of workforce
4. LA Times: 20% of workforce
5. Spotify: 17% of workforce
6. Levi's: 15% of workforce
7. Xerox: 15% of workforce
8. Qualtrics: 14% of workforce
9. Wayfair: 13% of workforce
10. Duolingo: 10% of workforce
11. Washington Post: 10% of workforce
12: Snap: 10% of workforce
13. eBay: 9% of workforce
14. Business Insider: 8% of workforce
15. Paypal: 7% of workforce
16. Okta: 7% of workforce
17. Charles Schwab: 6% of workforce
18. Docusign: 6% of workforce
19. UPS: 2% of workforce
20. Blackrock: 3% of workforce
21. Citigroup: 20,000 employees
22. Pixar: 1,300 employees
RayR Offline
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Joe discovers rampant money printing and government spending causes inflation, where the dollar buys less than before. it's like a ripoff.
Well...not exactly, if he had that would have meant he had a brain with critical-thinking functions.


WHERE’S JOE? Senile Biden Skips Super Bowl Interview, Rants About ‘Ice Cream Cartons

Quote:
Joe Biden refused to sit-down for the annual Super Bowl interview this year, instead releasing a meandering video where he complained about the size of “ice cream cartons.”

“While you were Super Bowl shopping, did you notice smaller-than-usual products where the price stays the same? Folks are calling it Shrinkflation and it means companies are giving you less for every dollar you spend. I’m calling on the big consumer brands to put a stop to it,” wrote Biden.

More w/ Video

https://www.thefirsttv.com/wheres-joe-senile-biden-skips-super-bowl-interview-rants-about-ice-cream-cartons/
DrMaddVibe Offline
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Lefty didn't know that the Market would do that. Lefty thought they'd still get the same and more from you! Little do they realize their inability to deny self-gratification, Immediacy, the constant dumbing down of America would have on America is so few years!

What was their plan to replace that which they destroy?
RayR Offline
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Yes, dumbing down it is right from the Oval Office. It's those evil capitalists that have caused his ice cream cartons to get smaller. fog Eh?
rfenst Offline
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DrMaddVibe wrote:
For those keeping score...


1. Twitch: 35% of workforce
2. Roomba: 31% of workforce
3. Hasbro: 20% of workforce
4. LA Times: 20% of workforce
5. Spotify: 17% of workforce
6. Levi's: 15% of workforce
7. Xerox: 15% of workforce
8. Qualtrics: 14% of workforce
9. Wayfair: 13% of workforce
10. Duolingo: 10% of workforce
11. Washington Post: 10% of workforce
12: Snap: 10% of workforce
13. eBay: 9% of workforce
14. Business Insider: 8% of workforce
15. Paypal: 7% of workforce
16. Okta: 7% of workforce
17. Charles Schwab: 6% of workforce
18. Docusign: 6% of workforce
19. UPS: 2% of workforce
20. Blackrock: 3% of workforce
21. Citigroup: 20,000 employees
22. Pixar: 1,300 employees

Quit bitching if you want to get inflation under control.
Layoffs are a symptom of expensive rates.
While a recession usually includes layoffs, layoffs do not necessarily mean there is a recession.
8trackdisco Offline
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Inflation not cooling. 3.9% inflation- same as last month.
Markets didn't like it. (S&P down 1.37%, NASDAQ down 1.80%, 1.35%).

Does that mean the recession is back on? It's a rolling sector recession as HD has been making the case for?

All in all good news for the Republicans, as the longer the economy sucks, the better for them in November.
RayR Offline
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8trackdisco wrote:
Inflation not cooling. 3.9% inflation- same as last month.
Markets didn't like it. (S&P down 1.37%, NASDAQ down 1.80%, 1.35%).

Does that mean the recession is back on? It's a rolling sector recession as HD has been making the case for?

All in all good news for the Republicans, as the longer the economy sucks, the better for them in November.


The funny thing about recessions is they occur more often when the company line is "the economy is strong".

Which makes me more interested in the opinions of the dissidents.

The US now has an 85% chance of recession in 2024, the highest probability since the Great Financial Crisis, economist David Rosenberg says

Matthew Fox
Feb 12, 2024, 1:27 PM EST

Quote:
* There's an 85% chance the US economy will enter a recession in 2024, the economist David Rosenberg says.

* He highlighted a relatively new economic model that has proven to be more timely than the yield-curve indicator.

* "Our conviction that the recession has been delayed but not derailed is still running at a high level," Rosenberg said.

More...

https://www.businessinsider.com/recession-outlook-financial-crisis-economy-federal-reserve-yield-curve-rosenberg-2024-2





Abrignac Offline
#270 Posted:
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Ok Henny Penny I'll bite.

DrMaddVibe wrote:
For those keeping score...

1. Twitch: 35% of workforce

REUTERS - 6:31 PM ET 1/9/2024 - Amazon.com's ( AMZN ) streaming unit Twitch is set to cut 35% of its staff, or about 500 workers, Bloomberg News reported on Tuesday, citing people familiar with the plans.
The move could be announced as soon as Wednesday, the report added.

The business remains unprofitable nine years after Amazon's ( AMZN ) acquisition of the company, the report said.

Twitch CEO Dan Clancy said in December that the company would shut down operations in South Korea in February this year, due to high operating costs and network fees.

The company had laid off more than 400 employees in March last year after its user and revenue growth did not meet expectations.

1) In what world is the loss of 500 jobs a meaningful measure of the US economy?
2) It should be no surprise that a company that has been unprofitable for 9 years is cutting its workforce.
3) This more an example of a company that is about to go under because it's not a viable entity, current state of the economy notwithstanding.


STRIKE 1, Henny Penny!


2. Roomba: 31% of workforce

MT NEWSWIRES - 11:16 AM ET 1/29/2024The Roomba maker separately on Monday said it launched an operational restructuring plan that will eliminate 350 positions, or 31% of its workforce. The company expects to record restructuring charges of $12 million to $13 million over the first two quarters of 2024 due primarily to severance and other related costs.

REUTERS - 5:59 PM ET 1/18/2024 -The European Union's competition watchdog plans to block Amazon.com's ( AMZN ) $1.4 billion acquisition of robot vacuum maker iRobot, The Wall Street Journal said on Thursday, citing people familiar with the matter.

Shares of the Roomba vacuum maker plunged nearly 40% to $14.3 in trading after the bell.


3. Hasbro: 20% of workforce

Forbes Feb 13, 2024,11:50am EST - Hasbro also had to clear out a tremendous amount of excess inventory, Zahn said. “We saw it show up in the value channel last fall,” he said. “Off-price retailers including Ollie’s, Ross Dress for Less, Marshall’s, T.J. Maxx and Burlington had top-quality Hasbro products for pennies on the dollar during the holiday season.”

PAWTUCKET, R.I.--(BUSINESS WIRE)--Jan. 26, 2023 - In October 2022, the Company announced a goal of delivering $250-300 million in annualized run-rate cost savings by year-end 2025. In alignment with this program’s objectives, the Company is undertaking organizational changes that will result in the elimination of approximately 1,000 positions from its global workforce this year, or approximately 15% of global full-time employees. The changes will include a new organizational model, commercial alignment, and leadership changes that the Company will discuss in more detail on its upcoming earnings conference call.

CNBC DEC 12 20231:52 PM EST - Popular toy brand sales had dropped significantly, Hasbro also said in the October quarterly report. Popular brands like My Little Pony, Nerf and Transformer had fallen 18% at the time, due to “softer category trends.”

Hasbro’s stock was down nearly 20% through Monday’s close.

Hasbro competitor Mattel had also warned of soft sales. Yet Mattel’s stock is up about 6% through Monday, powered a great deal by the box office success of the film “Barbie.” That’s still behind the 17% gain posted by the S&P 500 so far this year, though.

AP - Updated 7:08 PM CST, December 11, 2023 - Like many toy companies, Hasbro is struggling with a slowdown in sales after a surge during pandemic lockdowns when parents were splurging on toys to keep their children busy.

Last holiday season, many toy companies had to slash prices to get rid of merchandise due to weak demand. And the challenges have continued. Toy sales in the U.S. were down 8% from January through August, based on Circana’s most recent data.

Fortune January 26, 2023 at 5:30 PM CST - As part of a restructuring announced in October, Hasbro asked JPMorgan Chase & Co. and Centerview Partners to steer a sale process for most of its Entertainment One film and TV division after a large number of potential buyers came forward.

Bloomburg August 21, 2022 at 5:00 PM CDT - In August 2019, Hasbro Inc. announced it was paying about $4 billion to acquire Entertainment One (eOne), the Canadian media company best known for the kids’ TV series “Peppa Pig” and “PJ Masks.”


1) Over the years Hasboro has expanded by increasing it's own brands as well as purchasing other ongoing concerns. Doing so it hasn't integrated those expansions efficiently. The workforce downsizing is a natural occurrence when a company experiences less than expected profitability.

2) Hasbro bought a poorly performing media company and wasn't able to turn it around.



STRIKE 3, Henny Penny!


4. LA Times: 20% of workforce

CNN - Updated 6:20 PM EST, Tue January 23, 2024“This staffing cut is the fruit of years of middling strategy, the absence of a publisher, and no clear direction,” the union said in a statement. “But it’s clear that those entrusted to steward [the Soon-Shiong] family’s largesse have failed him — not the rank-and-file staff members with no say in editorial priorities.”

AP Updated 6:16 PM CST, January 23, 2024 - The Los Angeles Times said it planned to lay off at least 115 employees — more than 20% of the newsroom — starting Tuesday, one of the largest staff cuts in the newspaper’s 143-year history.

The cuts were necessary because the Times could no longer lose up to $40 million a year without boosting advertising and subscription revenue, the paper’s owner, Dr. Patrick Soon-Shiong, said Tuesday.

The Wrap - March 25, 2021 @ 1:10 PM - The Los Angeles Times and the San Diego Union-Tribune lost “north of $50 million” in revenue in 2020, company leadership told staffers at an all-hands meeting on Thursday. Chris Argentieri, the president of the two papers’ California Times parent company, described the losses as a “catastrophic drop in revenue for the company north of $50 million on top of a business that was already using cash and not producing cash,” according to a recording of the meeting obtained by TheWrap. The majority of the losses came from print advertising, though digital advertising and print circulation also sustained some losses. “What we saw in 2020 was [an] acceleration of trends that we were well aware of and have been aware of, really, for far more than a decade,” Argentieri said. “We won’t go back, particularly in print advertising, to where we were.”


1) The 20% you quote is newsroom staff, not the business itself.

2) The LA Times has been losing money for many, many years. It's no surprise that the cuts were made, recession or not.



STRIKE 4, Henny Penny!


Maybe I'll take a look at the others. But so far, it's looking like the "Biden Recession" has little to do with any of the companies you've posted so far.

Abrignac Offline
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rfenst wrote:
Quit bitching if you want to get inflation under control.
Layoffs are a symptom of expensive rates.
While a recession usually includes layoffs, layoffs do not necessarily mean there is a recession.


And of companies making cost cutting moves when profit margins shrink.
HockeyDad Offline
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Cisco, the San Jose-based networking and telecommunications giant, is laying off 5% of its workforce.

The company announced the cuts in a Wednesday filing with the Securities and Exchange Commission, alongside its quarterly earnings report. Based on the company’s reported head count, the layoffs will hit at least 4,000 workers. Cisco wrote in the filing that the cuts are aimed to “realign the organization and enable further investment in key priority areas.”
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CA instituted a $15 minimum wage and whataya think that's gonna do??

I would wager that A) Prices are going to increase in fast food joints and B) automation is going to take the place of every $15 an hour job that it can and more jobs will be lost.

It's like they have no idea what economics is... Frying pan
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Speaking of Economics, heard the tail end yesterday Jeff Besos is moving from Washington state to Florida for the no state income tax. It is estimated he will save 600 million dollars.

Or, more importantly, Washington is losing 600 million in tax revenue.

Related note. The report also said in California, the richest 1% of the state pay better than 40% of taxes in the state. Another 999 HockeyDads and that state is in deeper, big trouble.

There should be a mandatory economics class for incoming congress people.
HockeyDad Offline
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MACS wrote:
CA instituted a $15 minimum wage and whataya think that's gonna do??

I would wager that A) Prices are going to increase in fast food joints and B) automation is going to take the place of every $15 an hour job that it can and more jobs will be lost.

It's like they have no idea what economics is... Frying pan


They passed another law setting up a fast food labor commission and now fast food workers get $20 an hour.

In unrelated news, fast food workers will be replaced by kiosks.
HockeyDad Offline
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8trackdisco wrote:
Speaking of Economics, heard the tail end yesterday Jeff Besos is moving from Washington state to Florida for the no state income tax. It is estimated he will save 600 million dollars.

Or, more importantly, Washington is losing 600 million in tax revenue.

Related note. The report also said in California, the richest 1% of the state pay better than 40% of taxes in the state. Another 999 HockeyDads and that state is in deeper, big trouble.

There should be a mandatory economics class for incoming congress people.


When we left San Francisco about a year ago both our jobs went with us. We stayed with our companies and took our jobs with us and they were not backfilled. That income tax revenue vanished but also sales taxes and other fees. Poof…..gone.
DrMaddVibe Offline
#277 Posted:
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DrMaddVibe wrote:
And just like all if the Biden Administration economic numbers...the revision will wipe away all the gains months later. Itty bitty headlines on Page 11...buried under the Dear Abby column.


Oh wait...here it is!


https://www.cnbc.com/2024/03/08/jobs-report-february-2024-us-job-growth-totaled-275000.html

Boy, that didn't take long.
ZRX1200 Offline
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Press are good little doggies….
RayR Offline
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"Government again was a big contributor, with 52,000" jobs.

Adding even more tax parasites to the largest employer in the country is a negative contribution to the economy.
RayR Offline
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Grandma Yellen is sorry. Boo hoo!

TOO LATE: Biden Treasury Secretary Janet Yellen Says She Regrets Saying That Inflation Was ‘Transitory’ (VIDEO)

by Mike LaChance Mar. 13, 2024 10:20 pm
Quote:

During a recent appearance on the FOX Business Network, Biden Treasury Secretary Janet Yellen said that she regrets her previous claim that inflation was transitory.

That’s quite an admission.

In January of this year, Yellen conceded that Americans are not likely to see prices come down any time soon, contradicting comments from Biden.

Is someone slipping truth serum into her coffee?

Transcript via Real Clear Politics:
Quote:

EDWARD LAWRENCE, FOX BUSINESS NETWORK: But, when you talk about prices, the CPI inflation has had a 3 in front of it since July of last year. Why is Jamie Dimon wrong then when he’s saying the worst case is stagflation?

YELLEN: Well, I don’t think we’re going to see stagflation. Most forecasters believe we’re on a path where inflation will come down over time.

The single biggest contributor to inflation is housing costs. And we can see, when we look at the market for new rental apartments, that, in many parts of the country, rental prices for new apartments have actually declined overall, flat to slightly down. It takes a while for that to filter into the CPI.

And so I have every expectation that the single largest contributor to it, to inflation is going to be moving down over this year.

LAWRENCE: And that will bring the rest of it with it. So, you — in 2021, though, you did say that inflation was transitory. Do you regret saying that now?

YELLEN: I regret saying it was transitory. It has come down, but I think transitory means a few weeks or months to most people, and that — it’s lasted longer than that.


More...

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2024/03/too-late-biden-treasury-secretary-janet-yellen-says/
RayR Offline
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For thousands of years, regimes have debased the value of their money, and when the people complained why they had to pay more for the same amount of goods or why they were getting fewer goods for the same amount of money that they were spending before (shrinkflation), their dicktator would usually blame it on greedy merchants.
Times haven't changed much other than creating new ways to debase currency like fiat money and central banks.
So when Lyin' Joe Biden and his ilk blame shrinkflation on greedy capitalists, smart people know who is really to blame.
Stupid people believe Joe Biden.


Blame the Fed for ‘Shrinkflation’

By Ron Paul, MD
The Ron Paul Institute
March 19, 2024

Quote:
President Biden may have recently made history as the first president to discuss snack chips in the State of the Union message. He used snack chips to illustrate the phenomenon of shrinkflation. Shrinkflation occurs when businesses reduce the amount of goods sold in order to avoid raising prices. President Biden pointed out that businesses hope that, since both the price and the size of the package remain the same, most consumers will not notice they are getting fewer chips, cookies, or whatever other product has been affected by shrinkflation.

President Biden called on Congress to pass legislation, sponsored by so-called moderate Senator Bob Casey of Pennsylvania, to crack down on companies that reduce the amount of a good in a package. Biden and his congressional allies and media apologists think that this will stop shrinkflation. They think this because they believe shrinkflation is caused by corporate greed. In fact, shrinkflation is a rational response to increased prices caused by the Federal Reserve’s dollar depreciation.

Businesses reduce the amount of a product sold as a means to cope with rising prices of materials needed to make their products without directly raising the price paid by consumers. Unless greed is the only human emotion that fluctuates with the Federal Reserve’s policies, the fact that shrinkflation only occurs when Federal Reserve policies cause major price inflation should show anyone willing to think logically about these issues that the Fed, not greedy businesses, cause shrinkflation.

MORE...

https://www.lewrockwell.com/2024/03/ron-paul/blame-the-fed-for-shrinkflation/
DrMaddVibe Offline
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and back on Page 12...

https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/philadelphia-fed-admits-us-payrolls-overstated-least-800000

Nothing is built, Nothing is back and Nothing is better.

Biden has been EXACTLY what Trump warned America it would be. Only it's much much worse.
RayR Offline
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As I keep saying, there are 3 kinds of lies...LIES, DAMN LIES and GOVERNMENT STATISTICS.
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