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Storing full boxes
jeebling Offline
#1 Posted:
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Though this must be an old and worn out topic, I could not find it in the string. So I’m asking.
Do you store your full boxes in Boveda bags? Or in a collerdor?
Do you keep the plastic wrapper on the box?
With 5 packs, I remove the outside wrapper and place the individually cellophaned cigars in my humidor or a Boveda bag. If I open a box of unwrapped sticks I place some in my humidor that I keep as my “smoke box” and I put the rest in my bigger humidor or a Boveda bag with other cigars, some wrapped and some are not. I don’t stack different unwrapped cigars on or next to each other.
My question though is - how do you store a full box of cigars?
Jakethesnake86 Offline
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In a cooler would be my recommendation. I have some still wrapped in original packaging some not. As long as humidity is in reasonable check I’ve had no problems either way. I don’t like storing loose cigars in with boxes in bags or anything I’ve found I move stuff around too often. Have mashed cigars that way
jeebling Offline
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Thank you
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Palama Offline
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Jakethesnake86 wrote:
In a cooler would be my recommendation. I have some still wrapped in original packaging some not. As long as humidity is in reasonable check I’ve had no problems either way. I don’t like storing loose cigars in with boxes in bags or anything I’ve found I move stuff around too often. Have mashed cigars that way


If I leave the outer wrap on, I normally make a few slits to allow some air in.

You’ve smashed cigars?!?! Outrage! Someone call the Delaware Cigar Protection Agency! ram27bat
Jakethesnake86 Offline
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😂 maybe that’s what happened to the one I posted yesterday

Poor thing had a crease in it
LeeBot Offline
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jeebling, if you're not doing it, there is good information on this forum about freezing your cigars before storing. Do a search, or you can also search the web.

I think many (most?) of the old timers on here do it. Turned my head around. I went back and freeze treated my older stuff, do it with all new stuff.
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i use coolers, tupadors and pelican style cases. my set up sis basically this.

1 cooler is all boxes, and for long term storage. i have some boxes that have rested for well over 10 years and a few over 20. i open any box (didnt always do this but have started over the last few years) when i get it to inspect the cigars and make sure i am not seeing mold or evidence of beetles etc. then they go to the deep storage if that is my plan for them. i have never frozen my cigars but to each his own. this cooler is kept at 70 Humidity and 65 temp.

2nd cooler is some boxes that i am smoking out of , 5 packs, singles etc that i am planning to smoke in the next 6 months or so or trade, bomb etc. this one is kept at 67-68% and 65 Temp.

Tupador is used to store any infused like Acid or any of the Kentucky fire cured type stuff. usually pretty empty as i only keep a few of these around at a time (except the Tabac Especial line cause i am a big fan for a morning cigar) but i want them all separate from my regular Cigars. Kept at 65-65

my daily smokes are stored in what is called a 40 count (pelican style) case Drew Estate with the Deadwood lady artwork on it. however, i have removed all but the bottom layer of foam so it actually stores about 60 - 70 cigars. this one is kept at 62-65% and usually 65 temp however this time of year it lives in my garage which is where i work from most of the time so it is usually cooler. this is what i go to when i want to smoke a cigar, this gets fed and restocked by the 2nd cooler about 1 every week or 2.

as for plastic/cello on/off? i take the wrapper off all boxes because i inspect them before putting them away, 5 packs i will routinely leave the wrapper on until i want to break the 5er apart and access the cigars. singles/cigars i always leave the cello on if it came with it.

Mraia Offline
#9 Posted:
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^thats a hell of a system! I have a KingChii 48L that is getting full and may need to add a Tupperdore or cooler. The only issue for me is summertime temps get a little higher than 70 in the house despite air conditioning
Something to work on…
Jakethesnake86 Offline
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^ my cigars hang out around 73 degree year round. Meh. Hasn’t been a problem for me. I don’t worry much about temperature
Mraia Offline
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^good to know. That was always my concern but I never had any issues.
BuckyB93 Offline
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I usually slice open the box cello for a quick inspection. Maybe take one or two out for early smoking analysis then return the unwrapped box to my coolerdor, tuperdor, or wineador to rest.

For the the 5ers I usually just toss them into storage with the outer cello on since you can see them from the outside. If I want to try one then slit open the outer wrap, pull one out and toss the rest into storage.

I like my RH around 62-65% using beads, humidity packs, and (gasp) trained kitty litter. It's best to have the cigars rest for a while from shipping so they can acclimate to your desired storage and smoking RH preference.
jeebling Offline
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DrgInc and all of you guys, I appreciate your replies. Very helpful. I’ve decided to unwrap my full boxes and any cigars not in a box I will continue to keep in the cellophane. Many thanks.
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#14 Posted:
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LeeBot wrote:
jeebling, if you're not doing it, there is good information on this forum about freezing your cigars before storing. Do a search, or you can also search the web.

I think many (most?) of the old timers on here do it. Turned my head around. I went back and freeze treated my older stuff, do it with all new stuff.


Since almost all major manufacturers already freeze their cigars I have never had an issue with non-Cuban cigars and do not freeze them. I have always given all my Habanos a good deep freeze however.
jeebling Offline
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Thanks for the replies and tips, I appreciate the information. You guys have a blessed day.
delta1 Offline
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I have a large snap lid storage box for my boxes. It was about half the price of a similar capacity cooler, and because it's transparent, I can see the contents inside, without opening it...maintains RH better, imho. It's 24" L x 18" W x 8'' H and fits in a large drawer in a cabinet of the office.

As I go through the cigars in boxes in the storage container, once a box gets below half full or less, I transfer the cigars into trays on shelves of the end table humidor or the sectioned drawer on the top. I keep loose cigars there, in alphabetical order to make it easier to find something. The bottom shelf of the end table humidor is where I have a pull out tray that has smaller boxes of cigars.

You can see why many of us refer to this place as the asylum. There are some who are nuttier than me, with wine cabinets converted into humidors, or closets they've converted into walk-in humidors.
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delta1 wrote:
I have a large snap lid storage box for my boxes. It was about half the price of a similar capacity cooler, and because it's transparent, I can see the contents inside, without opening it...maintains RH better, imho. It's 24" L x 18" W x 8'' H and fits in a large drawer in a cabinet of the office.

As I go through the cigars in boxes in the storage container, once a box gets below half full or less, I transfer the cigars into trays on shelves of the end table humidor or the sectioned drawer on the top. I keep loose cigars there, in alphabetical order to make it easier to find something. The bottom shelf of the end table humidor is where I have a pull out tray that has smaller boxes of cigars.

You can see why many of us refer to this place as the asylum. There are some who are nuttier than me, with wine cabinets converted into humidors, or closets they've converted into walk-in humidors.


You know when Frankie sees this he’s gonna nominate you for the A to Z Hall of Fame!
BuckyB93 Offline
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I like to think I'm organized and rather anal but organizing cigars in alphabetical order is a different level that I have not gone to.
BuckyB93 Offline
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Uno NINE!
jeebling Offline
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In case anyone is interested, I received this reply from customer service. I was seeking information about storing full boxes and about the packaging of 5 packs. Some 5 packs come in cellophane outer wrapping while other 5 packs come with a thicker ziplock bag type of wrapper. Becky gave me a detailed response, I have copied the reply in case anyone is interested in reading it:

“Thank you for contacting us. You can absolutely remove the outer plastic packaging on boxes and 5 packs.

To keep the cellophane on or off is one of the most common questions we get concerning the maintenance of cigars. To answer your question, it's really up to you. That said, because cellophane is porous, the humidity or moisture in your humidor will be absorbed by your cigar. To a lesser degree, another benefit to keeping the cellophane wrapper on is that it prevents flavors from different kinds of cigars from combining or marrying with each other while they are resting. Of course, a good reason for keeping the cello on is that it protects the wrappers of your prized possessions when you’re digging through your humidor looking for a good cigar to smoke!

On the other hand, taking the cellophane off will allow cigars to age better if you plan on keeping them in the humidor for an extended time. In short, if you have a good, quality humidor that maintains 65-70% humidity and about 64-70 degrees Fahrenheit, your cigars can be safely stored without the cello wrappers. This allows the cigars to ‘breathe’ and age properly. In close, the choice is yours!

We hope this information is helpful to you. If you have any additional questions, please let us know.
Thank you,
Becky H.
CigarBid
Customer Service Team“
Bevo Offline
#21 Posted:
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For full boxes, I just remove the outside wrapper and put the box in my case. Sometimes I'll leave the seal unbroken, or maybe open the box to take a peak. Sometimes I'll even undo each cello and repack the box (just because I like the looks of it). If your system is stable, I really don't think it matters much.

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PapaWhiskey Offline
#22 Posted:
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That's a pretty set up Bevo.

I keep my cigars at around 65% in big pelican cases with beads and boveda packs. I have a bunch of big pelican cases so kind of stealth and perfectly sealed. When I get boxes I remove the plastic and break the seal to take a peek, then write the date on the bottom and put it in a pelican case. I'm not sure I would buy a pelican case to store cigars but if you have them hanging around they make a great humidor. Anyway, I think take the plastic off and leave the cellophane on.
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