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So far I have ordered from here several times spending about $200 each time, I've noticed very inconsistent sticks between all the major but affordable brands like Oliva O or rocky Patel, macadura, romoe and juletia, Chobi, and many more any else have that problem here almost like they are rejects or something?

Buy chitty cigars and that’s what you get. Up your game and consistently will follow.

Oh, btw here’s a secret. Make your opening bid double what you think it will actually take to win because once your winning bid crosses a certain threshold they send you the real cigars instead of the factory rejects. On second thought to make sure you get the very best cigars triple your opening bid.

Finally why do you buy sticks? Do you like to smoke wood?

Apparently a slang word that people who smoke chitty cigars use.

Also they don't have my trust enought to buy higher priced cigars, then what those turn out bad also?

Not sure where else you buy from (local shpo or online), but the ones shipped from internet vendors are notoriously overhumidified so they survive the mail journey. That may be why they are smoking like chit. I generally wont touch a mail order cigar for at least 30 days after arrival. It goes into the tupperadore and relaxes down to 65%rh and after about four weeks of rest, I try one and see if it's ready.

Well, see this was actually a way better reply than the last guys I'm just a little annoyed my humidor is steady at 69% so I'll take that advice and them them sit some more as far as pricing goes it's ok to throw away some cheap cigars is not my issue, it's more about geting a supposed to be good cigar out sit down to smoke it and it don't smoke,

It’s not for the cigars. This place has changed quite a bit since many of us joined.

Perhaps later I’ll have time to explain. At the moment I’m on my way to Florida so I can’t take the time needed to type it out. Check back in a few hours. I’ve got about 90 miles left to drive. If im not too tired I’ll write a post that should help you.

Depending on who is doing the rating / review and when, I wouldn’t necessarily expect it to be a true reflection of the current cigars being sold . If a cigar was rated 95 but it was over 10 years ago, I wouldn’t take much stock in it.

Ok can u recommend so good cigars for $4-12 range on this site?

Okay Mikey....

First, I need to make a few disclosures.

1) I have no filter and really DGAF if I pi$$ someone off.

2) I'm probably going to initially pi$$ you off with this. But enjoy the ride because at the end you'll learn a few things and realize I'm only about 98.2% the azzhole I sound like.

3) Many of the people who post here have actually traveled 100's to 1,000's of miles to meet up and smoke together. So, by virtue of the fact that you just joined you're an outsider.

4) These forums have been here 20-25 or more years. Some people posting here regularly were among the first to join. Things have changed in that time.

I'm sure you've heard the expression: Location, location, location. Think of this place as a location. Also, always know the crowd you're working before you work it.

The reason you got the response from me that you did is because your initial post sounded like something someone who had just stepped up from the Black & Mild bottom rung of the cigar world to maybe rung 2 or 3, but thought he was king of the hill. Then you continued digging a hole with your other responses. One example is anyone who smokes the chitty cigars doesn't have a sophisticated enough palette to smoke really high-quality expensive cigars. Also, I'm not sure what you define as expensive, but I seriously doubt you'd smoke that crap, yet pony up for what some of us regularly smoke.

As far as why are we here if we don't buy from here, there was a time when great cigars could be found here. But that is becoming all too rare. Many of the cigars you mentioned don't in anyway resemble cigars of the same brand 10, 20 years ago. Many of those brands who were once family owned have been sold to one of the conglomerates now driving the cigar world. In fact, do a little research on CigarBid and find out who its parent corporation is, then find out who owns that corporation. I'll give you a hint. The parentage of the cigar brands you mentioned will be somewhere in that mix.

Before, when family owned those cigars the blend and quality were consistent. Year after year the tobacco was bought from the same farmers and rolled in the same factories. Not anymore. Now the blend changes from year to year or even within a year based on available tobacco. They're not even always rolled in the same factories from batch to batch anymore. It's all about what's available when a batch needs to be made to bring inventory of a particular bland to minimum warehouse stocking level. Hopefully, now you understand the issues of quality and consistency.

As far as Rocky Patel's are concerned. Many people here will laugh at the mention of that brand. See paragraph above.

As far as ratings are concerned, its meaningless. In many instances the ratings you refer to don't reflect current construction. See paragraph above if you need clarification. Check out the magazines where these numbers are given. See if the ad buys corelates to the rating level. For example, the Alec Bradley Prensario was once the cigar of the year. Yet, AB's are notoriously one of the worse rolled cigars out there. In a 5 pack, one can expect 4 of them to either burn very uneven up to and including tunneling, to be plugged or most likely both. The Prensario was no exception.

So where do you go from here? That's up to you. There are actually quite a few guys who will gladly mentor you if you want. You'll find it's well worth it. Hell, I'll even toss out a morsel here and there. I dropped in 12-13 years ago and have learned more than I ever thought I could learn. To give you a sense of this community, I've traveled 1,000's of miles to meet up with guys here for fishing trips. I regularly talk with a handful of folks here on the phone, and text many almost daily. One guy who has posted in this thread has on multiple occasions timed his vacations and flown 6,000 miles or more round trip to meet with groups of members here to smoke and drink.

There is lots of great knowledge that can be had from the regulars here, but to avail yourself to this vast knowledge you need to become a member of the community. Otherwise, you're just another stranger passing through and will be regarded as such.

Take it for what it's worth.

One last thing. Remove "stick" from your vocabulary. It makes you sound like a serf.

wheelrite, , ,

What was her response when you introduced yourself? Moo or oink?

Big money. I remember a girl named Fifi down in the Dominican Republic that would offer to take you around the world for $10. But, all one had to do was keep saying "2 dolla, 2 dolla" and she would give in after a minute or so. I saw a line of guys about 8 deep at her door one night when I was on shore leave so I passed. Good thing. Within a day or 3 all of them ended up getting penicillin shots from the corpsman.

Woke up in the wee hours to wee wee and thought about what I wrote earlier about the camaraderie here and how long it’s been going so I drilled down the membership list to see who’s been here the longest. I found two things. One of which is sad indication of the future.

First, there are 4-5 guys who joined back in 2000. But, that’s misleading since there was a purge and restart so some of those guys may have been here longer.

The other thing I noticed was a sad indication of the looming future. I remember some letters had 2 or 3 pages of members. IIRC a full page used to be about 35 or so. Now, the most members for any letter is around 25-30. At least 5 letters didn’t have any members and another 4-5 had no more than 5-10. Looks like we’re losing members much, much faster than we’ve gaining.

Along the way, we’ve lost the noob/vet pairing as well as the HOTM. This place just isn’t the same anymore.

Hopefully you understand this place a little better. If you do you’ll find the value isn’t the cigars, but the people.

Here’s another piece of advice. Re-read your posts. Then re-read the other ones. Notice anything? Going forward I’d recommend that you proofread what you write before you hit the post button. No one likes reading something that requires a special decoder ring to decipher the context of what it is the author is trying to convey. Make sure you use paragraphs and avoid slang. Also, limit your sentences to single thoughts. Use periods to end a sentence. Put spaces between your sentences. Begin a new sentence for a new thought. Use paragraphs when transitioning to new ideas.

When in Rome…

If you cruise over to the Cigar discussion threads you’ll find plenty of conversations about various CIGARS. This is a good place to get recommendations on things to buy. Also, which out the “what are xxxx cigar are you smoking thread”. It will give you a sense of what we smoke. If you’re an indulger of adult beverages there are a few threads specific to different spirits and fermented beverages as well.

Easy way to test, get a Tupperware container with an O ring, put a couple cigars in it with a 69% Boveda for a week.

Try one then.

Everything Abrignac said above is 10000% true. Take it from me. Smoking a long long time, and up to the last few years most of it was crap. I learned the hard way about the guys here. They were here before me and know more about cigars than I do.
You're gonna get your feelings hurt and your ego bruised. Eventually you’ll realize that a lot of these guys are just f’ing around and mean no harm… but they take this chit seriously and rightfully so. It’s an expensive hobby and they’ve put a lot of dime and time into it. Listen to them, take some advice, open your mind and you’ll be rewarded with a lot of laughs and some good knowledge. Yeah there are a few jerks but they usually present themselves early on and you’ll recognize an azzhat pretty quickly. The guys on this thread now are rock solid. Take their advice!
Remember. Eventually you will realize it’s better to smoke one or two great cigars than 5 or 6 chitty ones.
Just my 2 cents. Welcome aboard!

^this. There are other sites with better selections, but for the nuts and bolts of day to day smoking, your Camacho, Oliva, Perdomo, Cohibas, Rocky’s, and 5 Vegas ( don’t know anyone who smokes them but they are ubiquitous on the site) you get really good deals.
And yeah AF should be on your list.

I still burn a rocky here and there. Kinda like the royale . Not the vintage. Just the regular royale.

Disregard this post for now as my humidor was not accurate and at 51% which probably was the reason I was having trouble.

Yea I have had good luck with the rockey patel white label

Yea that makes since as far as geting feels hurt I'd say not so much I'm ok with someone who wants to share knowledge or downgrades a cigar that's what I'm here for to learn, yea I came off a little to strong with accusations but I was having trouble and it worked because I did get to talk to some good guys on here.

Typically I guess you can say im a rough guy cause I skip over any bs someone says in a convo it like goes in 1 ear out the other, inless it is really bad then I might think that they are a keyboard warriors but other than that I'm not stressing azzhatism that's probably not a word but it'll work lol.

Welcome MikeyGraves,
I don't post as much, as I once did, but you seem to have a thick enough skin, to fit right in.
Enjoy your new adventure.
Keep an eye out for Cros, and keep the thick skin. You will need it around here.
And remember, only the mediocre, are at their best at all times.
Dave (A.K.A. Homebrew)