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Johns Hopkins: More gun control needed to prevent second civil war
ZRX1200 Offline
#1 Posted:
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By Lee Williams

A recent report by the Center for Gun Violence Solutions, which is part of Johns Hopkins (Michael) Bloomberg School of Public Health, conflates private gun ownership with armed insurrection in order to advocate for expanded gun control.

The 32-page study, which is titled “Defending Democracy: Addressing the Danger of Armed Insurrection,” not only revisits and revises the Jan. 6th protest — even though no protesters were armed and the only casualty was 35-year-old Air Force veteran Ashli Babbitt, who was shot and killed by Capitol Police — it resurrects actual armed insurrections from American history, such as Shays’ Rebellion of 1786, the Whiskey Rebellion of 1791 and the American Civil War.

The three authors, who are all attorneys with a history of paid anti-gun activism, clumsily raise the insurrection boogeyman to push for additional regulations for carrying firearms, tactical training prohibitions, additional gun-free zones, expanded Red Flag laws and the repeal of state preemption statutes, which has long been a major goal of the gun ban industry. Preemption laws prevent local jurisdictions from enacting their own gun-control regulations, which would result in a patchwork of gun-free zones.

Their authors’ warped message is to be expected, especially when you consider the biased nature of their backgrounds, their sponsors, their sources and Michael Bloomberg’s school itself. (If you type “gun violence” into the school’s internal search engine it will yield more than 1,000 results.)

The Center for Gun Violence Solutions admits it uses a “public health approach” to identify gun-control solutions, even though a gun is an inanimate object, not a disease, ailment or disorder. The school further claims it uses “rigorous scientific research to identify a range of innovative solutions to gun violence.” However, the authors’ rigorous scientific research turned out to be nothing more than false claims gleaned from biased stories from the legacy media and other anti-gun organizations that masquerade as actual news websites.

The authors used stories from CNN, ABC News. CBS News, NBC News, PBS, NPR, VOX, The Los Angeles Times, The Atlantic, The Guardian, The Washington Post, USA Today, the Associated Press, PolitiFact, Politico, Slate and the Southern Poverty Law Center. They even used stories from two dedicated anti-gun groups, Giffords and The Trace – the propaganda arm of former New York City mayor Michael Bloomberg’s gun-control empire.

Biased authors

The report was written by Tim Carey, Kelly Roskam and Joshua Horwitz. Carey is the law and policy advisor at Johns Hopkins Bloomberg School of public health. According to his bio, he is responsible for “Drafting legislation, regulations, legal reports, legislative testimony, fact sheets, and other advocacy materials.” Before moving to Johns Hopkins, Carey was the law and policy staff attorney for the Educational Fund to Stop Gun Violence and the Coalition to Stop Gun Violence.

Roskam is the director of law and policy at Johns Hopkins Center for Gun Violence Solutions. Prior to joining Johns Hopkins, she was the general counsel and legal director for the Educational Fund to Stop Gun Violence and the Coalition to Stop Gun Violence. Roskam’s bio also states she interned at the Brady Center to Prevent Gun Violence.

Horwitz is the co-director for the Johns Hopkins Center for Gun Violence Solutions. Before joining Johns Hopkins, he too worked at the Educational Fund to Stop Gun Violence and the Coalition to Stop Gun Violence, serving as executive director.

Biased report

The authors claim their report is both an examination and a warning about the threat that “armed insurrectionism poses to democracy in the United States.”

“The growing presence of firearms in political spaces in the United States endangers public health, safety, and the functioning of democracy,” the report states. “Far from being an outlier, the January 6th insurrection at the United States Capitol was part of a long line of events in which individuals have sought to use political losses to justify violence or threats of violence to disrupt our government and limit civic engagement.”

As stated, the policy recommendations presented by the authors are merely longstanding goals of the gun-ban industry, which would help propel them toward their ultimate goal of total civilian disarmament. The only difference is that now their policy recommendations are presented as necessary to “address the dangers of armed insurrectionism.”

Biased sponsors

“We would like to thank the Joyce Foundation and the Morningstar Foundation for supplying core support for this report,” the authors wrote.

The Joyce Foundation is firmly committed to gun control. According to their website, the Joyce Foundation seeks to:

Advance and implement federal, state, and local policies and practices that reduce easy accessibility of guns to those at risk of violence.
Support policies to reduce easy accessibility of guns to those at risk of violence.
Reduce the next generation’s exposure to gun violence through education on the risks of gun ownership.
Litigate to defend evidence-based gun policies and challenge extreme gun rights policies and practices.
The Morningstar Foundation is a 501(c)(3) nonprofit founded in 1982. In fiscal year 2017, the Morningstar Foundation reported $16,533,591 in revenue and $14,476,618 in expenditures, which included grants to many left-of-center organizations.

Some of the recipients include:

Educational Fund to Stop Gun Violence
The Southern Poverty Law Center
States United to Prevent Gun Violence
Violence Policy Center

In 2001, Johns Hopkins University renamed its School of Hygiene and Public Health to the Bloomberg School of Public Health. The change came after Michael Bloomberg donated more than $100 million to the university — the largest cash gift in the school’s 125-year history.

“I’m grateful and proud to have my name linked with the world's greatest public health school,” Bloomberg said in 2001. “I’ve always supported Johns Hopkins just because it gives me great personal pleasure to be associated with faculty, researchers. and students who do such tremendous work on issues that really matter. This honor is really icing on that cake for me.”



Abrignac Offline
#2 Posted:
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Never ceases to amaze me how far up their own bunghole some people will reach to pull out some chitty irrelevant “fact” to make a case, or the fact that a statically significant number of people will buy into that sewer induced argument.

As far as the document’s origin well that’s no surprise based on the funding source of said institution.
8trackdisco Offline
#3 Posted:
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Isn’t John’s Hopkins Hospital in a lousy neighborhood In Baltimore? As I recall Victor1234 lived in that area.

In Baltimore, the problem isn’t Gun Ownership, it is Gun Stealership.

Violence will always be an issue as long as Ray Lewis is alive.
KingoftheCove Offline
#4 Posted:
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Gun “control”?
Ok, sounds like a plan.
I can’t for the life of me, understand why the gun snatchers believe “gun control” is going to do……………….…..fuqing anything!

Criminals and wackos will always be able to get the tools they want, to do the evil chit they want to do.

Oh wait, that isn’t the prime objective of control at all……………..………I keep forgetting.
Abrignac Offline
#5 Posted:
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8trackdisco wrote:
Isn’t John’s Hopkins Hospital in a lousy neighborhood In Baltimore? As I recall Victor1234 lived in that area.

In Baltimore, the problem isn’t Gun Ownership, it is Gun Stealership.

Violence will always be an issue as long as Ray Lewis is alive.


Middle of downtown Baltimore.

Considering the gun laws in Maryland I’m not surprised. They have some of the most restrictive gun laws in the US. and we know from what the gun grabbers tell us that “sensible” gun legislation will make communities safer. So let’s take a quick look at the bullet points.

https://www.nraila.org/gun-laws/state-gun-laws/maryland/ wrote:
The first column refers to rifles and shotguns. The second to handguns.

Permit to Purchase No Yes
Registration of Firearms No Yes
Licensing of Owners No Yes
Permit to Carry No. Yes

Other
Castle Doctrine Enacted
No-Net Loss Enacted
Right to Carry Confidentiality No Provisions
Right to Carry in Restaurants Legal
Right To Carry Laws Rights Restricted-Very Limited Issue
Right To Carry Reciprocity and Recognition None
Right to Keep & Bear Arms State Constitutional Provisions No Provisions

So all these laws make Marylanders safer than most right?

Hmmmmm……..

Wait for it ………….

Don’t blink ……….


The most up to data is the 2019 dataset.

According to the Center for American Progress from 2008 through 2017 Maryland had the 5th highest gun murder rate at 5.86 per 100,000. That rate is 52% higher than the national average.

That’s certainly not very promising.

Before anyone says but, but, but that was a long time ago. Maryland surely has enacted those laws since then to curb all that violence. So when the next data set is released there will be proof that gun control legislation in Maryland since that period had made the state much safer. Sorry to disappoint. I lived next door in Virginia from 1995 through 2001. Back then Maryland was well known to have strict gun laws. So much so there was lots of do’s and don’t checklists floating around for people to look over before taking a firearm from Virginia into Maryland.

Center for American Progress wrote:
Our goal is to reduce gun violence by enacting strong gun laws, increasing investment in local solutions, and growing the movement dedicated to this mission.



If and when someone can produce a data driven study that PROVES strong gun control laws will make us safer as a nation I’ll hear it out and decide. As of yet all I’ve heard is snake oil which at best has been disguised as conjecture.
RayR Offline
#6 Posted:
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Yes, the Demo-Bolsheviks are afraid of the danger of armed insurrection against them and won't stop until you proles are completely neutered of any rights, unarmed and unable to resist their complete hold on power.

Another iron they have in the fire...

Congressional Democrats move to crack down on militia activity in the U.S.

By Kerry Picket - The Washington Times - Thursday, January 11, 2024

Quote:
A pair of Democratic lawmakers have introduced bills that would prevent private paramilitary activity in the U.S.

Rep. Jamie Raskin of Maryland and Sen. Ed Markey of Massachusetts put forth the legislation that would create a federal prohibition on paramilitary groups through civil and criminal enforcement.

The ban would hold individuals liable who directly engage in certain types of conduct, including intimidating state and local officials, interfering with government proceedings, pretending to be law enforcement, and violating people’s constitutional rights, while armed and acting as part of a private paramilitary organization.

The lawmakers say a federal law is necessary to prevent another Jan. 6-style attack on the Capitol by white supremacists who are tied to “private paramilitary actors.” Although each state has various laws for private paramilitary groups, Mr. Raskin and Mr. Markey said the laws are often outdated, under-enforced or ignored.

“Three years ago, white supremacists affiliated with paramilitary organizations stormed the U.S. Capitol, shattering windows, walls, and the families of five U.S. Capitol Police officers,” Mr. Markey said.

“Private paramilitary actors, such as the Proud Boys and Oath Keepers, pose a serious threat to democracy and the rule of law, and we must create new prohibitions on their unauthorized activities that interfere with the exercise of people’s constitutional rights. The forces of bigotry, hatred, and violent extremism must be stopped for the sake of our democracy,” he said.

Mr. Raskin said the militia groups are running amok in America.

More...

https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2024/jan/11/congressional-democrats-move-to-crack-down-on-mili/



McClanahan examines the lefty language Raskin and Markey used and the unconstitutional aspects of the bill.
Not surprisingly, they make no mention of leftist violence and insurrections posing a serious threat to duhmacracy.

Democrats Don't Understand the Constitution, Again

A proposed bill shows that the Democrats don't understand the Constitution.

Brion McClanahan
Jan 17, 2024

https://youtu.be/eDOEY18vNb0?si=5jjrv7zhlgrADGOy
drglnc Offline
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https://www.nraila.org/gun-laws/state-gun-laws/maryland/ doesn't look like it has been updated since 2014. i admittedly do not know of all the changes however some are below... i did VERY limited research, others may have more/more accurate info...

On November 21, 2023, a three-judge panel in the Fourth Circuit voted 2-1 to strike down the handgun licensing requirement as unconstitutional on 2A grounds

Maryland is a de jure "may issue" state for concealed carry, but in light of the Supreme Court's decision in New York State Rifle & Pistol Association, Inc. v. Bruen, Governor Larry Hogan directed law enforcement to cease enforcement of the "good and substantial reason" requirement to obtain a concealed carry permit. As a result, Maryland is de facto a "shall issue" state.


Certain models of firearms are banned as "assault pistols" and "assault long guns". It is illegal to possess an "assault weapon" or a copycat weapon with two or more specified features (folding stock, grenade/flare launcher, flash suppressor) unless owned before 10/1/2013, or received through inheritance from a lawful possessor and not otherwise forbidden to possess.
Some local counties have adopted Second Amendment sanctuary resolutions in opposition to assault weapon laws.

it is Illegal to purchase, sell or manufacture magazines with a capacity of greater than 10 rounds within Maryland. However, possession of magazines greater than 10 rounds is legal if purchased out of state.
Mr. Jones Offline
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Bloomberg is the biggest **** on earth...
He is the ILLUMINATTI butt boyeee to try and out law all firearms..
I have never ever seen a bigger NARCISSISTIC P.O.S. THAN HIM...
HE HAS David hogg chained in his basement dressed in black leather and a red ball gag like the pulp fiction gimp...aLLedGeDly
Soros has a gold choker chain around Bloomberg shrunkin raisin gonads...
Bloo.berg is a worthless p.o.s....aLLedGeDly
Abrignac Offline
#9 Posted:
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Mr. Jones wrote:
Bloomberg is the biggest **** on earth...
He is the ILLUMINATTI butt boyeee to try and out law all firearms..
I have never ever seen a bigger NARCISSISTIC P.O.S. THAN HIM...
HE HAS David hogg chained in his basement dressed in black leather and a red ball gag like the pulp fiction gimp...aLLedGeDly
Soros has a gold choker chain around Bloomberg shrunkin raisin gonads...
Bloo.berg is a worthless p.o.s....aLLedGeDly


My magic decoder ring advised me to concur.
RayR Offline
#10 Posted:
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Listen to JOE STRANOSA butcher and mock the words of Thomas Jefferson, He couldn't even get the wurds to come out right and probably didn't know it was Jefferson that wrote it.

“I love people who say, ‘THE BLOOD OF LIBERTY.’ Or, excuse me, ‘the tree of liberty is watered with the blood of patriots!’ Well, guess what, man. I didn’t see a whole lot of patriots that are out there walking around making sure that we have these weapons and if you really want to worry about the government, you need an F-16! [fighter jet]” fog

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2024/01/victor-reacts-joe-biden-once-again-threatens-americans/

The correct Jefferson quote is "the tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots & tyrants. It is it’s natural manure.

Joe is a load of 💩



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