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Caliber Hygrometer temp reading
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Mraia Offline
#1 Posted: Mon, Aug 28 2023, 4:56 PM EST
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I have a few Cigar Oasis Caliber Hygrometers that I am testing in a ziplock bag with a 65% Boveda for two days. Both are reading 67-68 Rh and higher temps than the house. I also have another smaller hygrometer in there which is reading exactly 65% and the house temp.
I’m going to calibrate the calibers. But since they are off with the RH would The temps be off too? Seems like everything is off a few points.
Thanks as always!
Jakethesnake86 Offline
#2 Posted: Mon, Aug 28 2023, 5:40 PM EST
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Calm down sir You’re panicky
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#3 Posted: Mon, Aug 28 2023, 5:59 PM EST
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Honestly, take all hydrometer out of your humidor. They aren't good for you.
In your case, the less numbers you see the better. Trust the boveda packs.
KingoftheCove Offline
#4 Posted: Mon, Aug 28 2023, 6:05 PM EST
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It is important to test them twice a day, for a month.
Then you have 60 readings.
Then add up all the temps and RH values, and divide by 60, and you have a solid average.

After that, you only have to repeat the test every 3 months….



















Dude, from now on, I’m gonna bust your balz every time you start panicing.
Relax…….just use Bovedas and beads and you’ll be fine.
LeeBot Offline
#5 Posted: Mon, Aug 28 2023, 6:12 PM EST
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And remember to PRE-TREAT your Bovedas!
Stogie1020 Offline
#6 Posted: Mon, Aug 28 2023, 6:40 PM EST
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LeeBot wrote:
And remember to PRE-TREAT your Bovedas!


THIS.


But make sure you use the old pre-treat method. The newer method is flawed and will cause major issues.
Ram27 Offline
#7 Posted: Mon, Aug 28 2023, 7:24 PM EST
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Youse do realize you are talking to a SOTLThink

Not a BOTL. Shame on you
Jakethesnake86 Offline
#8 Posted: Mon, Aug 28 2023, 7:44 PM EST
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I didn’t realize. Mam calm down you’re panicky
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#9 Posted: Mon, Aug 28 2023, 7:47 PM EST
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A couple points is not a big issue. If you want to be anal, just right on them +2% or whatever. You could also try the moist salt test (should read 75%) to give you two points of calibration.

- Place the salt in a bottle cap (or another small container).
- Dampen the salt with water. Not soupy. Pretty much like a dry paste.
- Place both the hygrometer and the bottle cap full of damp salt in a Ziploc bag and seal to seal out the air in it while the test is going on.
- Go to sleep.

Keep it like this for a day or so then see what it says. It should read 75% if the ziplock environment is perfect.

As for temps I don't worry about them too much. My place is in a controlled environment when it comes to temperature. Again a few degrees here or there + or - is not a big issue.

That's my 2 cents on the topic.
KingoftheCove Offline
#10 Posted: Mon, Aug 28 2023, 7:52 PM EST
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Ram27 wrote:
Youse do realize you are talking to a SOTLThink

Not a BOTL. Shame on you

Really?
Think

Then why did “she” write this on Oct 20, 2020
“LOl am I the only guy who likes these damn things?”

Either way, man, or woman, or Trans, or ?????………..I dont give a chit.
Panicky noobs can only be tolerated so long…
KingoftheCove Offline
#11 Posted: Mon, Aug 28 2023, 7:59 PM EST
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RAM just bein funny
Opie was fooled too…

https://www.cigarbid.com.../Nub-Nuance-Fall-Harvest
Mraia Offline
#12 Posted: Mon, Aug 28 2023, 8:17 PM EST
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BOTL!
Guy
Man
Dude
Wife
2 kids

Nuff said about THAT!
Jakethesnake86 Offline
#13 Posted: Mon, Aug 28 2023, 8:20 PM EST
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I liked opie
Jakethesnake86 Offline
#14 Posted: Mon, Aug 28 2023, 8:21 PM EST
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^^ sir calm down. You’re yelling again
Mraia Offline
#15 Posted: Mon, Aug 28 2023, 8:54 PM EST
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😅
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#16 Posted: Mon, Aug 28 2023, 9:02 PM EST
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Must be that time of the month...








































To make sure the humidor is closed.
Mraia Offline
#17 Posted: Mon, Aug 28 2023, 9:09 PM EST
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^nicely done
tonygraz Offline
#18 Posted: Mon, Aug 28 2023, 9:38 PM EST
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Jakethesnake86 wrote:
I liked opie


He's a good guy.
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#19 Posted: Mon, Aug 28 2023, 9:39 PM EST
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Have you considered trying a Xanax infused cigar?
KingoftheCove Offline
#20 Posted: Mon, Aug 28 2023, 10:04 PM EST
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Sunoverbeach wrote:
Have you considered trying a Xanax infused cigar?

Heh heh………or maybe smoke a “green sticky” cigar….

Can you imagine the panic that would set in then?
frankj1 Offline
#21 Posted: Mon, Aug 28 2023, 10:07 PM EST
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KingoftheCove wrote:
It is important to test them twice a day, for a month.
Then you have 60 readings.
Then add up all the temps and RH values, and divide by 60, and you have a solid average.

After that, you only have to repeat the test every 3 months….


agree with Sire, do the 2x/day for 30 days.
But I'm in the camp that believes the median RH is more important than the average for any individual month.

After a year of median results, add those up and divide by 12 to get the average median for the year.

Then start again.
325AIR Offline
#22 Posted: Mon, Aug 28 2023, 10:55 PM EST
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I quite enjoy your hyperactive attentiveness to your cigar enthusiasm, as it provides welcomed entertainment to the forum. Don't stop.
KingoftheCove Offline
#23 Posted: Tue, Aug 29 2023, 12:45 AM EST
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frankj1 wrote:
agree with Sire, do the 2x/day for 30 days.
But I'm in the camp that believes the median RH is more important than the average for any individual month.

After a year of median results, add those up and divide by 12 to get the average median for the year.

Then start again.

Think
Given the relatively small “low to high spread” of the expected RH and temp readings, I think the mean would be both more valid, and more reliable, than the median.
Now if the spread was say, 20, from low to high?
Maybe the median wins out………………but even then………..I’d have to see the numbahs.
Then again, I’m not so good wif numbahs, or wurds….
Mraia Offline
#24 Posted: Tue, Aug 29 2023, 7:45 AM EST
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I almost took these seriously! 🤦🏻
Man, I am down the rabbit hole with this…
Ram27 Offline
#25 Posted: Tue, Aug 29 2023, 8:44 AM EST
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KingoftheCove wrote:
RAM just bein funny-----LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL
Opie was fooled too…

https://www.cigarbid.com.../Nub-Nuance-Fall-Harvest
Mraia Offline
#26 Posted: Tue, Aug 29 2023, 9:02 AM EST
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👍👍👍
frankj1 Offline
#27 Posted: Tue, Aug 29 2023, 12:40 PM EST
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KingoftheCove wrote:
Think
Given the relatively small “low to high spread” of the expected RH and temp readings, I think the mean would be both more valid, and more reliable, than the median.
Now if the spread was say, 20, from low to high?
Maybe the median wins out………………but even then………..I’d have to see the numbahs.
Then again, I’m not so good wif numbahs, or wurds….

very persuasive argument...I'm gonna hafta give this a lot of thought...
Problem for me is though I'm gud wif wurds, I'm not so gud wif thinking.
KingoftheCove Offline
#28 Posted: Tue, Aug 29 2023, 1:02 PM EST
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Well dats why the use “median” in Real Estate.
As in “the median home price in Cigarville is $375,000”....
Because a few $5,000,000 homes throws off the mean so much as to negatively impact validity and reliability. Home price spreads are too big.

Median is also used in some financial analysis, epidemiology studies, etc.
It just depends...
KingoftheCove Offline
#29 Posted: Tue, Aug 29 2023, 1:25 PM EST
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Aaaaaand, let’s not forget the”mode”.......dat can be an important numbah as well...
frankj1 Offline
#30 Posted: Tue, Aug 29 2023, 2:34 PM EST
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true
delta1 Offline
#31 Posted: Wed, Aug 30 2023, 8:36 PM EST
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most important mode is the "com"...for numbers 1 and 2
KingoftheCove Offline
#32 Posted: Wed, Aug 30 2023, 9:01 PM EST
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delta1 wrote:
most important mode is the "com"...for numbers 1 and 2

Heh………da whole world is ones and zeros…
Stogie1020 Offline
#33 Posted: Thu, Aug 31 2023, 12:42 PM EST
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Mraia, if you really want to know how your cigars are doing...

https://www.amazon.com/HumidiMeterTM-Cigar-Humidity-Tester-Accessory/dp/B082GJRKV6
Mraia Offline
#34 Posted: Fri, Sep 1 2023, 12:20 PM EST
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Stogie1020 wrote:
Mraia, if you really want to know how your cigars are doing...

https://www.amazon.com/HumidiMeterTM-Cigar-Humidity-Tester-Accessory/dp/B082GJRKV6


I thought this was a goof till I checked..

I think someone else here put it best...more numbers are NOT a good thing for me!
Herfing
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