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nogamesguy Offline
#1 Posted: Mon, Jul 17 2023, 11:54 AM EST
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I absolutely refuse to spend ridiculous amounts of money on Boveda stuff. As mentioned in a previous post of mine, for 20 years now I've used PG+H20+ the green floral foam. This last go round with charging the foam I think I may have gone overboard because I'm getting readings near 80% (77%) And both my hygrometers are calibrated (salt test + zip lock bag) to within 3% of each other and the elusive 70% RH.

72% is fine (really means 69-70%) 74% is fine (really means 70-71%)

77% is too high. I looked into the boveda thingys and the guy at the local shop wanted $40 for it. I laughed. Ummm, no. Not happening in this universe or any other universe. RH is RH and the RH doesn't care how much $$ I spend to get it.

Plus, the floral cubes takes up a good bit of space on the bottom of the humidor that I'd like to reclaim if possible. We're talking wooden, cedar lined humidors here. Old school. I've done the cooler thing in the past but I don't have enough disposable income to keep those filled so.... it is what it is.
Palama Offline
#2 Posted: Mon, Jul 17 2023, 12:05 PM EST
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nogamesguy wrote:
I absolutely refuse to spend ridiculous amounts of money on Boveda stuff. As mentioned in a previous post of mine, for 20 years now I've used PG+H20+ the green floral foam. This last go round with charging the foam I think I may have gone overboard because I'm getting readings near 80% (77%) And both my hygrometers are calibrated (salt test + zip lock bag) to within 3% of each other and the elusive 70% RH.

72% is fine (really means 69-70%) 74% is fine (really means 70-71%)

77% is too high. I looked into the boveda thingys and the guy at the local shop wanted $40 for it. I laughed. Ummm, no. Not happening in this universe or any other universe. RH is RH and the RH doesn't care how much $$ I spend to get it.

Plus, the floral cubes takes up a good bit of space on the bottom of the humidor that I'd like to reclaim if possible. We're talking wooden, cedar lined humidors here. Old school. I've done the cooler thing in the past but I don't have enough disposable income to keep those filled so.... it is what it is.


Too bad Cacman isn’t active anymore. Fo’ sure he’d give his take on kitty litter.
Stogie1020 Offline
#3 Posted: Mon, Jul 17 2023, 12:27 PM EST
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Bovedas cost a few bucks and can last for years... Stop playing games and get on board.
Palama Offline
#4 Posted: Mon, Jul 17 2023, 1:57 PM EST
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Stogie1020 wrote:
Bovedas cost a few bucks and can last for years... Stop playing games and get on board.


Iirc, someone, mebbe Cacman, had a great point about people spending thousands of dollars on their cigars but then penny-pinch for their humidification. But, like they say, to each his own…. Unsure
Stogie1020 Offline
#5 Posted: Mon, Jul 17 2023, 2:03 PM EST
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Palama wrote:
Iirc, someone, mebbe Cacman, had a great point about people spending thousands of dollars on their cigars but then penny-pinch for their humidification. But, like they say, to each his own…. Unsure

lol, so true.

https://www.cigarbid.com...midity-pack-69/4684514/

I mean, it's $2.



I WANT MY TWO DOLLARS!!!!
frankj1 Offline
#6 Posted: Mon, Jul 17 2023, 2:14 PM EST
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and 70 is still too high.
65 tops...62 even betterer
Sunoverbeach Offline
#7 Posted: Mon, Jul 17 2023, 2:49 PM EST
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In nogame's defense, it doesn't specify what quantity of Boveda packs the $40 charge applied to. I wouldn't buy them from my shpo. I don't care how much they protect me. Lots on here work, as does the Bezos money printing machine
PapaWhiskey Offline
#8 Posted: Mon, Jul 17 2023, 3:31 PM EST
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I use a combination of beads I got from cbid and 60 gram 65% Boveda packs and my humidors stay perfectly at 65%. All my cigars like 65%.

Suck it up and get beads and boveda or at least beads.
PapaWhiskey Offline
#9 Posted: Mon, Jul 17 2023, 3:34 PM EST
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Stogie1020 wrote:
lol, so true.

https://www.cigarbid.com...midity-pack-69/4684514/

I mean, it's $2.



I WANT MY TWO DOLLARS!!!!


ThumpUp
Yes, buy some of those but find the 65% packs
ZRX1200 Offline
#10 Posted: Mon, Jul 17 2023, 3:34 PM EST
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How much dollar value do you have into your cigar stash?

If it’s not much than maybe the mold trap, taste altering combo of PG and floral foam is ok for you.

Buy once cry once.
Stogie1020 Offline
#11 Posted: Mon, Jul 17 2023, 3:48 PM EST
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PapaWhiskey wrote:
ThumpUp
Yes, buy some of those but find the 65% packs

Yeah yeah... I was lazy and it was the first boveda auction I found. Dancing
Palama Offline
#12 Posted: Mon, Jul 17 2023, 4:04 PM EST
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frankj1 wrote:
and 70 is still too high.
65 tops...62 even betterer


I’mma 65er myself but depending on OP’s ambient humidity and temperature swings, the higher percentage may work better for him. I recall reading someone’s post about storing at 70% but he lived in a pretty dry area. Claimed his cigars smoked perfectly and didn’t have any mold issues.

Sunoverbeach wrote:
In nogame's defense, it doesn't specify what quantity of Boveda packs the $40 charge applied to. I wouldn't buy them from my shpo. I don't care how much they protect me. Lots on here work, as does the Bezos money printing machine


Late last year the machine gun place had a 35% off coupon that I used on a 6-pack of 320 gm 65% Bovedas. Even with shipping, it came out to roughly $10.50 per pack, which, if my math is correct, is a LOT less than the $28 MSRP. Mebbe OP can hold out and wait for a great deal on Bovedas? Think
KingoftheCove Offline
#13 Posted: Mon, Jul 17 2023, 6:01 PM EST
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PG and floral foam?
Um……………….never mind.

There are quite a few of us who do the beads/Boveda combo.
Others use just Bovedas.
Some use just Heartfelt beads.
Some (gasp!) use certain brands of pure silica kitty litter, and even know how to “train” it to 65rh………….shocking I know.

Do your homework and figure it out.
DrafterX Offline
#14 Posted: Mon, Jul 17 2023, 6:22 PM EST
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When the lettuce turns brown just throw it out and puts some fresh stuff in there... Mellow
nogamesguy Offline
#15 Posted: Mon, Jul 17 2023, 7:49 PM EST
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Stogie1020 wrote:
Bovedas cost a few bucks and can last for years... Stop playing games and get on board.


Herfing Alright then. It would free up some space. I wasn't aware they could last that long. FWIW, I like 65% too.

KingoftheCove Offline
#16 Posted: Mon, Jul 17 2023, 8:23 PM EST
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nogamesguy wrote:
Herfing Alright then. It would free up some space. I wasn't aware they could last that long. FWIW, I like 65% too.


You just need to learn how to recharge them…………correctly!
Takes all of 10 seconds to learn how to do it.
Stogie1020 Offline
#17 Posted: Mon, Jul 17 2023, 9:26 PM EST
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Buy some bovedas and then one single jar of the little blue beads you add distilled H2O to (https://www.cigarbid.com/a/humi-care-bead-gel-humidification/4687598/).

I like to keep the beads moist so the Bovedas are always pulling moisture, not pushing it. They seem to stay active (flaccid) for years that way. I just checked (I write the date I open them on bovedas), and I have been flaccid since at least 2020.
Palama Offline
#18 Posted: Mon, Jul 17 2023, 9:31 PM EST
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Stogie1020 wrote:
Buy some bovedas and then one single jar of the little blue beads you add distilled H2O to (https://www.cigarbid.com/a/humi-care-bead-gel-humidification/4687598/).

I like to keep the beads moist so the Bovedas are always pulling moisture, not pushing it. They seem to stay active (flaccid) for years that way. I just checked (I write the date I open them on bovedas), and I have been flaccid since at least 2020.


Oh my! Gonz

In case you didn't know, they have drugs for that kind of thing these days.... jester
LeeBot Offline
#19 Posted: Mon, Jul 17 2023, 9:41 PM EST
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Way to work the word "flaccid" into a conversation though. Twice. Kudos!
Stogie1020 Offline
#20 Posted: Mon, Jul 17 2023, 9:59 PM EST
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LeeBot wrote:
Way to work the word "flaccid" into a conversation though. Twice. Kudos!

Thanks, it wasn't hard.







You left that door WIDE open....
ZRX1200 Offline
#21 Posted: Tue, Jul 18 2023, 12:49 AM EST
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LMMFPWAO
frankj1 Offline
#22 Posted: Tue, Jul 18 2023, 9:55 PM EST
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Stogie1020 wrote:
Thanks, it wasn't hard.







You left that door WIDE open....

Stogie's gud wif wurds!
not so gud wif numbahs...
bluwater1959 Offline
#23 Posted: Tue, Jul 25 2023, 4:18 PM EST
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try these

https://www.amazon.com/MAGICLUB-Transparent-Centerpiece-Arrangement-Decorations/dp/B0BXFD43N1/ref=sr_1_4_sspa?crid=10T4EOAJNORC&keywords=water%2Bbeads%2Bfor%2Bplants&qid=1690319671&sprefix=water%2Bbeads%2Caps%2C105&sr=8-4-spons&sp_csd=d2lkZ2V0TmFtZT1zcF9hdGY&th=1
kittylitterFTW Offline
#24 Posted: Mon, Jul 31 2023, 12:16 PM EST
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Can't beat cheap humidification to keep your cigars tasting fresh!
kittylitterFTW Offline
#25 Posted: Mon, Jul 31 2023, 12:16 PM EST
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ZRX1200 wrote:
LMMFPWAO

settle down
tonygraz Offline
#26 Posted: Mon, Jul 31 2023, 3:34 PM EST
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Poor Palama.
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