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Why China’s Shrinking Population Is a Problem for Everyone
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China struggled for years to curtail its rapid population growth. Now that its population is declining, economists and others fear serious implications for China and countries around the world.



Despite the rollback of China’s one-child policy, and even after more recent incentives urging families to have more children, China’s population is steadily shrinking — a momentous shift that will soon leave India as the world’s most-populous nation and have broad rippling effects both domestically and globally.

The change puts China on the same course of both aging and shrinking as many of its neighbors in Asia, but its path will have outsize effects not just on the regional economy, but on the world at large as well.

Here’s why economists and others are alarmed by the developments.

China’s shrinking work force could hobble the global economy.

For years, China’s massive working-age population powered the global economic engine, supplying the factory workers whose cheap labor produced goods that were exported around the world.

In the long run, a shortage of factory workers in China — driven by a better-educated work force and a shrinking population of young people — could raise costs for consumers outside China, potentially exacerbating inflation in countries like the United States that rely heavily on imported Chinese products. Facing rising labor costs in China, many companies have already begun shifting their manufacturing operations to lower-paying countries like Vietnam and Mexico.

A shrinking population could also mean a decline in spending by Chinese consumers, threatening global brands dependent on sales of products to China, from Apple smartphones to Nike sneakers.

The data is bad news for China’s crucial housing market.
In the short term, a plunging birthrate poses a major threat to China’s real estate sector, which accounts for roughly a quarter of the country’s economic output. Population growth is a key driver of housing demand, and homeownership is the most important asset for many Chinese people. During widespread pandemic lockdowns that dampened consumer spending and export growth, China’s economy became even more dependent on the ailing housing sector.

The government recently intervened to help distressed real estate developers, in an attempt to stem the fallout from its housing crisis.

China’s shrinking work force may not be able to support its growing, aging population.
With fewer working-age people in the long run, the government could struggle to sustain an enormous population that is growing older and living longer. A 2019 report by the Chinese Academy of Social Sciences predicted that the country’s main pension fund would run out of money by 2035, in part because of the shrinking work force.

Economists have compared China’s demographic crisis to the one that stalled Japan’s economic boom in the 1990s.

But China does not have the same resources as a country like Japan to provide a safety net for its aging population. Its households live on much lower incomes on average than in the U.S. and elsewhere. Many older Chinese residents rely on state pension payments as a key source of income during retirement.

China also has some of the lowest retirement ages in the world, with most workers retiring by 60. The situation has put a tremendous strain not only on state pension funds, but also on the country’s hospital system.

Older Chinese citizens exercising at a park in Beijing. With fewer working-age people, the government could struggle to sustain an enormous population that is both growing older and living longer.

The crisis has been decades in the making.

China introduced the one-child policy in the late 1970s, arguing that it was necessary to keep population growth from reaching unsustainable levels. The government imposed onerous fines on most couples who had more than one child, and compelled hundreds of millions of Chinese women to have abortions. Many families favored boys over girls, often aborting baby girls or abandoning them at birth, resulting in a huge surplus of single men in the Chinese population.

China announced the relaxing of the family size restrictions in 2013, but many demographic experts said the change had come too late to change the country’s population trajectory.

The government’s efforts to incentivize a baby boom to solve the demographic crisis have failed to stabilize falling birthrates.

There are no easy fixes.
The government’s efforts to start a baby boom to solve the demographic crisis — including offering cash handouts and easing the one-child policy to allow for three — have failed to stabilize falling birthrates. Educated Chinese women are increasingly delaying marriage and choosing not to have children, deterred by the high costs of housing and education.

China has also been unwilling to loosen immigration rules to boost the population, and has historically issued relatively few green cards to replenish its shrinking work force.

To address the labor shortage, China has been outsourcing low-skilled production to other countries in Asia, and adding more automation to its factories, hoping to rely more on artificial intelligence and technology sectors for future growth.

Nicole Hong is a reporter covering China. She previously worked for The Wall Street Journal, where she was part of a team that won the 2019 Pulitzer Prize in National Reporting.
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They can petition the UN with their Taliban neighbors and get paid as well as enslave them.

http://www.cigarbid.com/...w-The-Thing#post4717540

It's a win-win

Ask the Uyghurs. They're more subdued than the Taliban!
RayR Online
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The national CHICOM government needs to be fully in charge, with a total monopoly on baby production and indoctrination.
More slave labor...more patriotic cannon fodder for the motherland!
That'll fix it. fog
Whistlebritches Offline
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**** China............maybe now we can start manufacturing our own products again.China peaked in a very short period of time,I hope their demise is record breaking.
Palama Offline
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Whistlebritches wrote:
**** China............maybe now we can start manufacturing our own products again.China peaked in a very short period of time,I hope their demise is record breaking.


+1!
Mr. Jones Offline
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China is on a steep DOWNWARD TREND ...

BIGTIME...

GHOST CITIES

HOUSING BUBBLE HAS BURST

RETIREMENT FUNDS ARE GONE AND ARE @$ ZERO FOR MANY WHO LOST ENTIRE LIFE SAVINGS

GOVT CORRUPTION WAS SO BAD THAT MANY PEOPLE ARE BROKE AND IN THEIR GOLDEN YRS...

CHINA WILL FALL WITHIN 10 YRS...BUT NOT BEFORE THEY START WORLD WAR III...

I WOULD BET MY MEAGER 401K ON THAT STATEMENT
frankj1 Offline
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read that we need to have a population growth too.
HockeyDad Offline
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frankj1 wrote:
read that we need to have a population growth too.


We abort and castrate children and import Central Americans. We’re good.

Population growth is bad for climate change.
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HockeyDad wrote:
We abort and castrate children and import Central Americans. We’re good.

Population growth is bad for climate change.


reminds me of an old joke that can't be told anymore...
one reason it's old is the ethnic part has changed over the decades.
here's how it used to go...

ya know what they do with foreskins after circumcisions?

they plant them in Ireland and grow cops.

so you can see why I can't tell it anymore.

Whistlebritches Offline
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frankj1 wrote:
reminds me of an old joke that can't be told anymore...
one reason it's old is the ethnic part has changed over the decades.
here's how it used to go...

ya know what they do with foreskins after circumcisions?

they plant them in Ireland and grow cops.

so you can see why I can't tell it anymore.



Boston's long time love affair with their coppa's

frankj1 Offline
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Whistlebritches wrote:
Boston's long time love affair with their coppa's


you get it, my man!
Brewha Offline
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When I was born there were 3.1 billion people in the world.
Today there are over 8 billion people.

I would way that we will always have problems with shifting world economies. But let's knock off the population growth, ok?
deadeyedick Offline
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Brewha wrote:
When I was born there were 3.1 billion people in the world.
Today there are over 8 billion people.

I would way that we will always have problems with shifting world economies. But let's knock off the population growth, ok?


The four horsemen will ride to our rescue.
burning_sticks Offline
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Brewha wrote:
When I was born there were 3.1 billion people in the world.
Today there are over 8 billion people.

I would way that we will always have problems with shifting world economies. But let's knock off the population growth, ok?


I certainly hope you're doing your part.
RiverRatRuss Offline
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Yea well.... Wolverines!!! if they try to drink from our Ohio By Force!!!

what pisses me off, is they get visa's to come work these Chinese Restaurants in the States and our local joint is closed on Tuesdays now... I think Biden is making them join a Union when they come over??? d'oh! d'oh!
Brewha Offline
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burning_sticks wrote:
I certainly hope you're doing your part.

Six grandkids....I gotta figure out how that keeps happening...
Brewha Offline
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deadeyedick wrote:
The four horsemen will ride to our rescue.

Always the optimist.....
deadeyedick Offline
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Brewha wrote:
Always the optimist.....


You spelled pragmatist wrong.
Brewha Offline
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deadeyedick wrote:
You spelled pragmatist wrong.


Conquest, war, hunger, and death - ok I see your pragmatic vision more clearly now...
HockeyDad Offline
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Brewha wrote:
Conquest, war, hunger, and death - ok I see your pragmatic vision more clearly now...


Ukraine!
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