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Parents Held Liable in Mass Shootings
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RiverRatRuss Offline
#1 Posted: Sun, Mar 26 2023, 6:52 AM EST
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This is a Wow Article... What If Parents Start being held accountable for their Childrens Actions? If a child is on medications for mood swings or Identifying as a Cat or a Dog or Whatever? there's an issue! Healthcare workers are restricted by HIPPA laws to not report any of this possible behaviors, so it would be up to the Parents too??

https://tinyurl.com/5dc3jbse
ZRX1200 Offline
#2 Posted: Sun, Mar 26 2023, 2:02 PM EST
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Well if parents can’t be trusted with their kids and that’s why the schools have to make decisions for them, why aren’t they being held accountable.
Huzza3045 Offline
#3 Posted: Mon, Mar 27 2023, 4:57 AM EST
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RiverRatRuss wrote:
This is a Wow Article... What If Parents Start being held accountable for their Childrens Actions? If a child is on medications for mood swings or Identifying as a Cat or a Dog or Whatever? there's an issue! Healthcare workers are restricted by HIPPA laws to not report any of this possible behaviors, so it would be up to the Parents too??

https://tinyurl.com/5dc3jbse


Healthcare workers are not restricted by HIPAA laws when it the patient is under 18. Technically all parents have access to all their medical information including their charts and therapy notes (for better or for worse).
Brewha Offline
#4 Posted: Mon, Mar 27 2023, 9:44 AM EST
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I think anyone who gives a minor access to fire arms is account able for that the minor does with them.
RiverRatRuss Offline
#5 Posted: Mon, Mar 27 2023, 9:51 AM EST
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Huzza3045 wrote:
Healthcare workers are not restricted by HIPAA laws when it the patient is under 18. Technically all parents have access to all their medical information including their charts and therapy notes (for better or for worse).


Yes Parents do, but healthcare professionals and workers are bound by HIPPA to disclose information on minors or adults including medications one may be prescribed. thus it would fall on the parents to keep an eye on their own children. many parents today do not pay close enough attention to their Kids, toss them an IPhone, Ipad, computer etc. and stay outa my hair!! d'oh!
Brewha Offline
#6 Posted: Mon, Mar 27 2023, 11:43 AM EST
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“Johnny, if you promise to take your antidepressants, you can have that rifle you want…”
DrafterX Offline
#7 Posted: Mon, Mar 27 2023, 11:53 AM EST
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Was that before or after he heard his first Beatles song..?? Huh
Brewha Offline
#8 Posted: Mon, Mar 27 2023, 11:58 AM EST
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The parents….let him play the record backwards….
ZRX1200 Offline
#9 Posted: Mon, Mar 27 2023, 2:57 PM EST
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If you have a kid that’s got mental issues that’s a time I support having them under lock and key.

Mandating is a problem.
tonygraz Offline
#10 Posted: Mon, Mar 27 2023, 4:50 PM EST
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Parents should be liable as they have less kids around for more time than schools do.
Abrignac Offline
#11 Posted: Mon, Mar 27 2023, 6:42 PM EST
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Amazing how things have changed.

Santa brought me a shotgun for Christmas when I was 10 or 11. A rifle when I was a couple years older.

When I was in high school there was a shotgun, rifle or both in at least 98.2% of the pickup trucks in the student parking lot. We had fights, but no one dared retrieve a firearm from their vehicle. Firearm free zones were unheard of at the time.

Look at where we are now. Truly pathetic.
HockeyDad Offline
#12 Posted: Mon, Mar 27 2023, 6:44 PM EST
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tonygraz wrote:
Parents should be liable as they have less kids around for more time than schools do.


I heard it takes a village.
Gene363 Offline
#13 Posted: Mon, Mar 27 2023, 6:53 PM EST
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HockeyDad wrote:
I heard it takes a village.


Applause Applause Applause
deadeyedick Offline
#14 Posted: Mon, Mar 27 2023, 7:01 PM EST
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In this case it was a village idiot.
ZRX1200 Offline
#15 Posted: Mon, Mar 27 2023, 9:26 PM EST
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How the **** do parents have kids for more time? You count sleep?
RiverRatRuss Offline
#16 Posted: Tue, Mar 28 2023, 6:40 AM EST
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ZRX1200 wrote:
How the **** do parents have kids for more time? You count sleep?


Re-Read his post... for LESS time then Schools
burning_sticks Offline
#17 Posted: Tue, Mar 28 2023, 9:30 AM EST
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Entirely too many kids, raised by the school not the parents. My three year old grandaughter has already informed me she can't be what was considered in my time ,"properly" disciplined. Spare the rod spoil the child, as true today as ever.
rfenst Offline
#18 Posted: Tue, Mar 28 2023, 9:56 AM EST
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burning_sticks wrote:
Entirely too many kids, raised by the school not the parents. My three year old grandaughter has already informed me she can't be what was considered in my time ,"properly" disciplined. Spare the rod spoil the child, as true today as ever.

No reason, IMNSHO, for corporal punishment.
ZRX1200 Offline
#19 Posted: Tue, Mar 28 2023, 11:05 AM EST
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Russ….you might want to.

Less kids more time.
rfenst Offline
#20 Posted: Tue, Mar 28 2023, 12:29 PM EST
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Brewha wrote:
I think anyone who gives a minor access to fire arms is account able for that the minor does with them.

Analogously, Florida law makes parent who signed for the kid's driving permit and license fully liable until the kid turns 18.
Gene363 Offline
#21 Posted: Tue, Mar 28 2023, 1:57 PM EST
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North Korea is way ahead on this problem:

Quote:
"North Korea law specifies 'three generations of punishment'. If you commit a crime, your chil¬dren and grandchildren will also receive the full brunt of punishment, which often involves a lifetime in prison. Children born in prison are raised as prisoners because their “blood is guilty”."





Sarcasm
ZRX1200 Offline
#22 Posted: Tue, Mar 28 2023, 2:13 PM EST
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Focusing on everything except the perpetrator seems to be the norm.
Gene363 Offline
#23 Posted: Tue, Mar 28 2023, 2:19 PM EST
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ZRX1200 wrote:
Focusing on everything except the perpetrator seems to be the norm.


Yes, like blaming an inanimate object and not the criminal, e.g., guns.
Mr. Jones Offline
#24 Posted: Tue, Mar 28 2023, 6:02 PM EST
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All South Korean action and crime movies HAVE NO FIREARMS AT ALL IN THEM except for the cops....

The criminals all use hammers, knives, Hatchets, baseball bat's, pick axes, axes, machetes, swords...etc..
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