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Bossman119 Offline
#1 Posted: Thu, Jan 5 2023, 8:56 AM EST
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Just curious how you store your cigars in the humidor. Do you store the sticks in the clear wrappers or do you remove the wrappers for storage? Seems if you store in the wrappers the humidifying doesn't get to the sticks.
JGRAZ Offline
#2 Posted: Thu, Jan 5 2023, 8:59 AM EST
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Cello on
Its semi-permeable. Cigars will get all the humidity they need.
drglnc Offline
#3 Posted: Thu, Jan 5 2023, 9:23 AM EST
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Bossman119 wrote:
Just curious how you store your cigars in the humidor. Do you store the sticks in the clear wrappers or do you remove the wrappers for storage? Seems if you store in the wrappers the humidifying doesn't get to the sticks.


Never remove the wrapper... if you do you are left with just the ugly binder leaf and lose part of the flavor the blender intended...

Now if you mean the Cellophane then its up to you but, Cellophane is not plastic and allows for air exchange. It is put on to protect the wrapper from damage. It has been left on cigars for decades with no negative affect. miions of cigars are stored in cello for years and humidification is not an issue.
delta1 Offline
#4 Posted: Thu, Jan 5 2023, 2:59 PM EST
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cello on...made me think...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0xF6wdt8l_Q
LeeBot Offline
#5 Posted: Thu, Jan 5 2023, 4:42 PM EST
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d'oh!
Bossman119 Offline
#6 Posted: Thu, Jan 5 2023, 8:01 PM EST
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Yea. I'm talking about the clear cellophane wrapper that cigars come in.
corey sellers Offline
#7 Posted: Thu, Jan 5 2023, 8:14 PM EST
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The right lettuce helps but it has to be changed out once a week. Due to moisture content iceberg is to wet I like to use romaine. It seems to do a better job alot of brothers are scared of this process. It works really good more especially in a cold dry climate.
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#8 Posted: Tue, Jan 31 2023, 7:41 PM EST
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So I was reading on Cigar Aficionado's website and ran across storing cigars in cellophane. They advise against it... Now, I respect everyone here's infinite wisdom, as do I respect CA's. I'm at an impasse here with my stock as I rebuild it. I've always stored in cello, but I'm paying more attention to aging/resting now than I did before. CA also says the cello prevents the humidity from reaching the sticks.

I did search this and only found a few posts about it. Yes, I read the wise words of Trish (or sketcha)

TrishS wrote:
Cello (cellophane) on or off is up to the individual. They may breathe a little better and age a little faster with 'em off. They are delicate and prone to damage if handled improperly though, so use your judgment. The links below expand on this. Also, if you like, do a search.



One of my other concerns is the marrying of flavors between cigars. No, I'm not talking about flavored cigars (CAO Moontrance, Acid, etc.) but rather each cigar's individual flavor profiles. I don't know if this is even a thing, but something my "Bubba logic" led me to consider. For all I know, it may be a good thing in the end, IDK.

I'm sure the elders on this board are sick and tired of answering/talking about this question. horse I've got my bunker gear on and braced for the flames.
Hitting

Thanks in advance.
Jakethesnake86 Offline
#9 Posted: Tue, Jan 31 2023, 7:54 PM EST
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Edward sahakian told me leave I’m the cello. So I do.
LeeBot Offline
#10 Posted: Tue, Jan 31 2023, 9:24 PM EST
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I read something, somewhere, at some point, that was something about some high-end collectors preferring cello on. They analogized it to keeping a bottle of wine corked with a good cork. The internal buildup of gases in the cellophane helps age the cigar. But the cello is permeable. The gases do escape, just more slowly, and this allows more time to marinate the cigar.

I have found that cigars without cellos really don't store as long, so if you decide to go nude, you probably want to make sure your collection is turning over every couple of years.

As far as flavors marrying, I've heard of it. Some people say it's a thing. I, in no way, have a sensitive enough palate to taste the difference between a Monty #2 that's been stored next to a nude H. Upmann v. some cigar in a cello. I'm more inclined to think that's a power of suggestion type thing. Some people think it's real, so it is for them.
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#11 Posted: Tue, Jan 31 2023, 9:33 PM EST
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[email protected] wrote:
So I was reading on Cigar Aficionado's website and ran across storing cigars in cellophane. They advise against it... Now, I respect everyone here's infinite wisdom, as do I respect CA's. I'm at an impasse here with my stock as I rebuild it. I've always stored in cello, but I'm paying more attention to aging/resting now than I did before. CA also says the cello prevents the humidity from reaching the sticks.

I did search this and only found a few posts about it. Yes, I read the wise words of Trish (or sketcha)




One of my other concerns is the marrying of flavors between cigars. No, I'm not talking about flavored cigars (CAO Moontrance, Acid, etc.) but rather each cigar's individual flavor profiles. I don't know if this is even a thing, but something my "Bubba logic" led me to consider. For all I know, it may be a good thing in the end, IDK.

I'm sure the elders on this board are sick and tired of answering/talking about this question. horse I've got my bunker gear on and braced for the flames.
Hitting

Thanks in advance.


I’m normally a cello on kinda guy but early last year I started to experiment with cello off. However, it was usually only one or 2 from a new order and put the nekkid cigars in tubes to protect the wrappers. I waited 3 to 6 months to see if there was any difference between an off cigar vs. an on one. My small sample, very unscientific results led me to think that it didn’t really matter. There was no, “Taking the cello off allows the cigar to exponentially age X-times faster.”

With that being said, try taking the cello off on a few cigars and after a few months, see for yourself if it makes a difference. To your concern about marrying flavors, the simple thought is to keep the cello off cigars away from other cello off ones. Perhaps in 3 or 5 finger bags, tubes or putting a cello on cigar in-between different cello off ‘gars.

Good luck!
Sunoverbeach Offline
#12 Posted: Wed, Feb 1 2023, 6:41 AM EST
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I've read, and adopted the belief, that cello slows the aging process. It doesn't prevent it. Since I've got one or two extra smokes, I figure I can wait it out and also have the added benefit of protection from my ham handed humi digging
corey sellers Offline
#13 Posted: Wed, Feb 1 2023, 7:20 AM EST
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I agree with this ^^^^ well said
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#14 Posted: Wed, Feb 1 2023, 7:30 AM EST
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Bossman119 wrote:
Just curious how you store your cigars in the humidor. Do you store the sticks in the clear wrappers or do you remove the wrappers for storage? Seems if you store in the wrappers the humidifying doesn't get to the sticks.



I follow the lead of the manufacturer on this one. If they have cello on their cigars I leave them on until I'm ready to enjoy them.

I don't put "sticks" in my humidor, that would ruin the whole humidity issue I try to maintain.

Maybe www.SticksBid.com could answer that one.
deadeyedick Offline
#15 Posted: Wed, Feb 1 2023, 7:52 AM EST
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You may have noticed that no Cubans are shipped with cello except the cheap machine mades. I believe they age just fine and can do so for decades if stored properly. But just like wine some cigars will benefit more from age and others will not or may even degrade within a few years.
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#16 Posted: Wed, Feb 1 2023, 6:50 PM EST
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Thank you all for your time and responses. I'll probably just strip a few and leave most in their skirts and have my own little experiment because as I've read; it's really just a personal preference. I do like the protection the cello provides.
frankj1 Offline
#17 Posted: Wed, Feb 1 2023, 7:33 PM EST
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the cello is a porous wood product.
As said above, if the arrive with cello, they stay in cello in my house.

I kinda get a kick out of seeing yellow cello...
madspackler Offline
#18 Posted: Thu, Feb 2 2023, 9:35 AM EST
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frankj1 wrote:
the cello is a porous wood product.
As said above, if the arrive with cello, they stay in cello in my house.

I kinda get a kick out of seeing yellow cello...


This^
tonygraz Offline
#19 Posted: Thu, Feb 2 2023, 10:32 AM EST
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How about other packaging in Zip lock bags, plastic wrapped bundles and even plastic wrapped boxes.
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