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Cycleman Offline
#1 Posted: Tue, Dec 13 2022, 7:55 PM EST
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For your cigars of course.

I'm a 65% to 68% kinda guy. Much higher and some sticks stay Too moist and if I don't pull them out for a day or 3 before smoking, they warm up at the light and the draw is to tuff. I like a nice lazy draw. Even at 68% I still like to pull them out a day ahead if I know I'm going to smoke that day.

Yes, I said moist...... ahead...... pull them out ....... and warm up!!! Cigars are sexy.
Palama Offline
#2 Posted: Tue, Dec 13 2022, 8:09 PM EST
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Cycleman wrote:
For your cigars of course.

I'm a 65% to 68% kinda guy. Much higher and some sticks stay Too moist and if I don't pull them out for a day or 3 before smoking, they warm up at the light and the draw is to tuff. I like a nice lazy draw. Even at 68% I still like to pull them out a day ahead if I know I'm going to smoke that day.

Yes, I said moist...... ahead...... pull them out ....... and warm up!!! Cigars are sexy.


Pretty much the same for me except I go 69% for Connie and Cameroon wrapped smokes. At 65% I get too many cracks or splits with those.
Sunoverbeach Offline
#3 Posted: Tue, Dec 13 2022, 8:51 PM EST
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I'm down wit da 65. Started at 69 early on, but too many burn issues
Jakethesnake86 Offline
#4 Posted: Tue, Dec 13 2022, 9:28 PM EST
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64
ZRX1200 Offline
#5 Posted: Tue, Dec 13 2022, 9:30 PM EST
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65% unless it’s fresh off the thighs.
Sunoverbeach Offline
#6 Posted: Tue, Dec 13 2022, 10:06 PM EST
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Jakethesnake86 wrote:
64

Just haaad ta be different, didn'tcha? Frying pan
borndead1 Offline
#7 Posted: Tue, Dec 13 2022, 10:33 PM EST
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Low end: 62
High end: 68
danmdevries Offline
#8 Posted: Tue, Dec 13 2022, 10:38 PM EST
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63-67

Same as the other Dan, when I got into cigars all the shpos and catalogues told me 70. But my cigars consistently would burn poorly, wrappers split and turned sour around halfway.

Also initially I was using a cheap China humidor and floral foam soaked in water and trusting the analog hygrometer that came with the cheap China humidor. I found cbid and won a $1 bid for a digital hygrometer along with my cigars and it was reading 75 so in an effort to go to 70 I didn't rewet the foams for a while. I noticed my cigars were smoking nicer, tasting better, and didn't get any split wrappers. The digital one was reading 66. I also found the forum section of this site around that time and learned about 2 way humidification and a sealed case storage method instead of the leaky wooden humidors.

My big humidor is a Pelican case I lined with cedar and I have about a dozen Boveda 65's in there with the cigar boxes and a pound of heartfelt 65% beads. I occasionally soak the beads and the bovedas take out the excess. My desktop is a handmade quality one and seals well, but definitely requires more maintenance. But that one I also do the beads and Boveda method. Bovedas are doing the maintenance and the beads are there to recharge the Bovedas.
Jakethesnake86 Offline
#9 Posted: Wed, Dec 14 2022, 12:26 AM EST
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Which beads are you talking danm ? I’m working on a different setup (wine cooler conversion). This is where my mind is taking me but I’m unfamiliar with beads.
Palama Offline
#10 Posted: Wed, Dec 14 2022, 1:11 AM EST
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danmdevries wrote:
63-67

Same as the other Dan, when I got into cigars all the shpos and catalogues told me 70. But my cigars consistently would burn poorly, wrappers split and turned sour around halfway.

Also initially I was using a cheap China humidor and floral foam soaked in water and trusting the analog hygrometer that came with the cheap China humidor. I found cbid and won a $1 bid for a digital hygrometer along with my cigars and it was reading 75 so in an effort to go to 70 I didn't rewet the foams for a while. I noticed my cigars were smoking nicer, tasting better, and didn't get any split wrappers. The digital one was reading 66. I also found the forum section of this site around that time and learned about 2 way humidification and a sealed case storage method instead of the leaky wooden humidors.

My big humidor is a Pelican case I lined with cedar and I have about a dozen Boveda 65's in there with the cigar boxes and a pound of heartfelt 65% beads. I occasionally soak the beads and the bovedas take out the excess. My desktop is a handmade quality one and seals well, but definitely requires more maintenance. But that one I also do the beads and Boveda method. Bovedas are doing the maintenance and the beads are there to recharge the Bovedas.


Jakethesnake86 wrote:
Which beads are you talking danm ? I’m working on a different setup (wine cooler conversion). This is where my mind is taking me but I’m unfamiliar with beads.


Purdy sure Danm is talking about these.

You can get them here:

https://www.heartfeltindustries.com/products.asp?cat=65%25+Rh+Humidity+Beads
corey sellers Offline
#11 Posted: Wed, Dec 14 2022, 7:02 AM EST
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I like 65 heartfelt beads and bovedas
deadeyedick Offline
#12 Posted: Wed, Dec 14 2022, 7:18 AM EST
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I like to keep it 62-63 and find anything over that tends to affect the taste and/or burn adversely.
Stogie1020 Offline
#13 Posted: Wed, Dec 14 2022, 11:55 AM EST
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Does Boveda sell anything less than 65%?

I would like to try out 60-62ish to see if makes a big difference, but don't really know how to maintain that consistently without a Boveda.

NVM, just saw the 62% ones "for cannabis"...

"Wifey, I NEED to have weed, it's what these Bovedas are designed for!"
Jakethesnake86 Offline
#14 Posted: Wed, Dec 14 2022, 12:57 PM EST
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Who wants to send stogie some weed
Sunoverbeach Offline
#15 Posted: Wed, Dec 14 2022, 1:08 PM EST
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Is he low..... or high?
Jakethesnake86 Offline
#16 Posted: Wed, Dec 14 2022, 1:09 PM EST
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I think he’s low but trying to get high? 🤔
Stogie1020 Offline
#17 Posted: Wed, Dec 14 2022, 2:03 PM EST
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knowing you knuckleheads, you will send POA or clover and I will have to use glyphosate.
Palama Offline
#18 Posted: Wed, Dec 14 2022, 2:31 PM EST
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Stogie1020 wrote:
knowing you knuckleheads, you will send POA or clover and I will have to use glyphosate.


IIRC, back-in-the-day, ripoff dealers would “cut” their weed with oregano and only make deals at night so that the buyer couldn’t really see what was in the bag(s).

Well, that’s what I HEARD or mebbe read on the Innernets so don’t quote me. Shame on you
Stogie1020 Offline
#19 Posted: Wed, Dec 14 2022, 4:51 PM EST
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Palama wrote:
IIRC, back-in-the-day, ripoff dealers would “cut” their weed with oregano and only make deals at night so that the buyer couldn’t really see what was in the bag(s).

Well, that’s what I HEARD or mebbe read on the Innernets so don’t quote me. Shame on you


The old "oregano in your weed" trick... Only bettered by the old "weed in your oregano" trick which made pasta dishes SO much better.
stogie30 Offline
#20 Posted: Thu, Dec 15 2022, 1:05 PM EST
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65 to 68 is correct IMO. Or you could smoke Parodi and not need a humi.
rfenst Offline
#21 Posted: Thu, Dec 15 2022, 2:14 PM EST
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62 or 64, depending on humi temp.
Anyone who told you 70/70 at the cigar shop is clueless.
Stogie1020 Offline
#22 Posted: Thu, Dec 15 2022, 3:07 PM EST
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rfenst wrote:
62 or 64, depending on humi temp.
Anyone who told you 70/70 at the cigar shop is clueless.



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delta1 Offline
#23 Posted: Fri, Dec 16 2022, 6:47 PM EST
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my fave humidity is whatever the ambient is on the Hawaiian Island while I am there, unless it's raining...whether in the 50's to 90's RH, I seem to enjoy my cigars more there than any other place...

I spend time on the Big Island in Kona/Keauhou Bay, which is near the low end of the Hawaiian Island humidity spectrum; and also on Kauai, which is near the high end of the spectrum...

my wooden humidors range between 58 - 64 rh, depending on ambient rh...my plastic snap lid tupperdors are between 63-64 rh, depending on how often I open them...

I use 65 rh Heartfelt beads and 65 rh Boveda humidity packs
Sunoverbeach Offline
#24 Posted: Fri, Dec 16 2022, 7:43 PM EST
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rfenst wrote:
62 or 64, depending on humi temp.
Anyone who told you 70/70 at the cigar shop is clueless.

Made me think of a shpo I went into in Minnesota. Walked in the humi, and the entire floor was coated in moisture. Looked at the humidifier reading 87%. Told the cashier they had a problem in there and was thanked. Maybe I'm greedy, but a nice 5er would have shown proper thanks for saving their entire flipping stock
LeeBot Offline
#25 Posted: Fri, Dec 16 2022, 8:54 PM EST
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I remember going into a place on 202 in Delaware years ago, and almost every cigar there was covered in "bloom." A lot of it. Everything was obviously over-humidifed.

I was desperate though, so I bought a cheapy, and tried to smoke it, but sure enough, WAY too moist. About all I remember was it being harsh and terrible and not burning.

Edit: I remember it was a Cusano 1997 Corojo. Ha!
Sunoverbeach Offline
#26 Posted: Fri, Dec 16 2022, 9:09 PM EST
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I've told this one before, but warned a guy in a Columbus store his box of Montes had mold. I'm all about alerting shpokeepers of issues apparently. He said it's plume. I pointed out the plume was forming individual 3D fuzzy balls all over the cigars
clintCigar Offline
#27 Posted: Mon, Dec 19 2022, 2:23 PM EST
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I store around 66-70% (depending on temp) but I typically stage in my cigar locker at 65%. I've gotten better consistent performance out of my dailys since doing this. That's not too say I don't get good performance from my others stored, it just seems to minimize issues. A side plus from it is that I'm consistently recharging my 60g 65% Boveda in my cigar locker. That thing has been goin for almost 2yrs now lol.
drglnc Offline
#28 Posted: Mon, Dec 19 2022, 2:51 PM EST
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I maintain 2 coolers and 2 smaller tuppadors, one cooler is long term storage 70% the others are Ready to smoke at 65% Usually move stuff at least 2 weeks but more like a month when possible before i want to smoke it.

Temp is always SUB 70 but usually closer to 65
drglnc Offline
#29 Posted: Mon, Dec 19 2022, 2:59 PM EST
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Sunoverbeach wrote:
I've told this one before, but warned a guy in a Columbus store his box of Montes had mold. I'm all about alerting shpokeepers of issues apparently. He said it's plume. I pointed out the plume was forming individual 3D fuzzy balls all over the cigars


Had a similar situations. I was overseas at an Embassy in Turkey for 4 years, most Embassy have a store for alcohol and stuff and started to sell Cigars (Cubans only). I warned them multiple times that they humidity was high (every time i saw it it was 72-75%) Additionally after looking at the Cohiba bands it was clear they were not real. he wouldn't take my advise and after about a month mold started to show. he tried the same plum BS ( he was not a smoker so only knew what he read or was told by the supplier). I bought 2, went to the med unit. dissected one in front of the doc and shoed the floor sweepings to include hair, showed the mold growing as well. 3 days later the Cigars were gone and the shop was forbid from selling them for health concerns.

LeeBot Offline
#30 Posted: Mon, Dec 19 2022, 5:45 PM EST
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Applause
That's hardcore.
rfenst Offline
#31 Posted: Tue, Dec 20 2022, 9:57 AM EST
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Australian cigar website had many customers sent in cigars with "plume" and sent them to a lab. The "plume" was determined to be mold, so I don't have much faith in a claim of plume. Just wipe it office and enjoy your cigar!
clintCigar Offline
#32 Posted: Tue, Dec 20 2022, 2:13 PM EST
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I have for sure seen the difference in plume and mold in my collection. If it's fuzzy, it's mold. Period. Plume is like brittle crystals.
Jakethesnake86 Offline
#33 Posted: Tue, Dec 20 2022, 4:51 PM EST
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I figure the brittle crystals are just the mold that dries. I don’t know A little crystal doesn’t turn me on or off 😂
delta1 Offline
#34 Posted: Wed, Dec 21 2022, 6:51 PM EST
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BTW: check the humidity levels of the cigars you just bought...put them in a tupperware container with a hygrometer, and let sit for 24 hours. You'll prolly find that they will be high 60's to low 70's, which is a little wet, and an indication that "let them sit a bit" is good advice for newly purchased cigars. This is why most folks avoid the temptation to smoke'em ROTT.

Lookin at you hnixon12...
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