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tonylum Offline
#1 Posted: Tue, Nov 4 2003, 7:35 PM EST
Joined: 08-30-2003
Posts: 138
I just joined a birthday group last month, and was pretty well shocked after contacting one of the members. I had sent him an email telling him it was my first birthday group, and was curious on what kind of a response he got on his birthday from the other group members. I was shocked to learn that out of 20 participants his received only 10 replies. It's been about 2 or 3 weeks since his birthday.
If you ask me this kind of sux. Does this mean that if I send out to 20 people, I might get half back in return.
Is this a common problem with other birthday groups, or am I in a deadbeat group.

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wbslngr Offline
#2 Posted: Tue, Nov 4 2003, 7:44 PM EST
Joined: 08-27-2002
Posts: 748
I hate to say it but I have been in contact with some of the guys that had b-days in Sept, Oct, and it isn't turning out the way I had hoped. I think there is some still MIA from Sept. I was hoping to make this a really fun new birthday group and it just doesn't seem to be shaping up that way. I hope it gets better and if it doesn't I am saying sorry early.
mhelfe19 Offline
#3 Posted: Tue, Nov 4 2003, 8:08 PM EST
Joined: 01-01-2003
Posts: 155
I can't speak for anyone else...but I for one am not sending a gift of cigars with the expectation that I will be getting something in return. If the person I gift to feels the urge to reciprocate, and is financially able ... so be it ... if not, so what! I'm just happy to share my good fortune and cigars with others. Peace to all.

Mark H
wbslngr Offline
#4 Posted: Tue, Nov 4 2003, 8:52 PM EST
Joined: 08-27-2002
Posts: 748
I think we all feel that way too, BUT when you join a group whose purpose is to send cigars back and forth you might expect them to follow through.
billreif Offline
#5 Posted: Tue, Nov 4 2003, 10:12 PM EST
Joined: 03-02-2003
Posts: 1,430
FYI -5 members have not sent anything
for October.
Not complaining just letting you know.
JustDanD Offline
#6 Posted: Wed, Nov 5 2003, 12:58 AM EST
Joined: 02-27-2003
Posts: 748
Members need to realize that the Birthday Clubs are not gifts, they are trades. When you commit to a trade, you need to follow through. This is especially true when you have already recieved your end of the deal. Hope it all works out and gets back on track.

Dan (JustDanD)
al'Thor Offline
#7 Posted: Wed, Nov 5 2003, 5:04 AM EST
Joined: 06-17-2003
Posts: 2,793
Is there a way we can keep track of this? We all have a list of all the members - as the birthday boy receives gifts, if he scratches each name off and then sees who's left - maybe we can contact those people and see what's up - if no response, they need to be dropped...
tonester666 Offline
#8 Posted: Wed, Nov 5 2003, 5:08 AM EST
Joined: 05-07-2003
Posts: 1,324
While I am not in any of your clubs; I tend to send my gifts out late. I know that I am not the only one who runs behind in our club. I think one of the clubs had to drop a couple of members whne they stopped sending and responding.

I think you do need to keep track.
Homebrew Offline
#9 Posted: Wed, Nov 5 2003, 5:21 AM EST
Joined: 02-11-2003
Posts: 11,885
I believe that if you have recieved your package, you cannot drop out, until everyone who sent, you smokes, on your birthday have been sent theirs. We have had the occasion, where someone, or actually a couple of people, dropped out after sending out the first couple of months Birthdays. Since I recieved packages from them, I sent them packages, on their Birthday, though I am sure, they didn't expect packages, from those who they didn't send cigars. I have started a promptness thread, on trade forum, for any of the BOTL that are behind, in the Original Birthday Club. This is a thread for them to acknowlege being behind, and have the opportunity to correct this situation, and save their trading status, from negative posts. Myself, I didn't keep a database, of what was sent to me, or what I sent, just that I sent a package, and marked them off the list, of packages needing to be sent. If I missed anyone, shoot me an email, and I will correct the problem.
Later
Dave (A.K.A. Homebrew)
P.S. I'm sure some people are just late, my birthday was in April, and I got a box, in August.
tonester666 Offline
#10 Posted: Wed, Nov 5 2003, 5:49 AM EST
Joined: 05-07-2003
Posts: 1,324
Homie, while I completely agree with you how do you enforce keeping someone in a club? It is unfortunate that they recieved their end but do not have the integrity to reciprocate.

August huh, now I don't feel so bad.

grond Offline
#11 Posted: Wed, Nov 5 2003, 6:48 PM EST
Joined: 06-07-2003
Posts: 738
I, for one, would like the names of the late senders posted. If they aren't going to participate they should at least have the courtesy to resign. Otherwise, post their names so we'll know not to invite them into trades, box passes or b'day clubs. If we have members deliberately taking advantage of other member, enquiring minds want to know. :)
Homebrew Offline
#12 Posted: Sun, Nov 9 2003, 4:25 AM EST
Joined: 02-11-2003
Posts: 11,885
To a degree, I agree with you Grond. But there are too many circumstances that might cause a member to be late, death in the family, a loved one in the hospital, member in the hospital, budget problems, etc. I would prefer to give everyone a chance to explain the delay, before posting their names, as bad traders. As I posted above, I got one of the packages 4 months, after my birthday. We have several people, in our club, who have gotten behind. But I would not publish their names, unless they didnot acknowledge being behind, or they blatently refused to send their end.
Later
Dave (A.K.A. Homebrew)
smithbw Offline
#13 Posted: Sun, Nov 9 2003, 6:30 AM EST
Joined: 09-01-2001
Posts: 2,444
The caliber of the people that are in the "Original Birthday Club" ensures success. We have the best of the Best. I am honored to participate with such distingished members.

My point you ask?

Participateion should be treated as an honor. I was allowed to participate based upon past performances. A scruinity of some sorts should be performed prior to admission. This should reduce the reliabiltiy and dependability issues....

Yes, we have had late shipments but each and every person stepped up and aknowledged tardiness. That is what its all about!!! Reliability, dependabilty, and communication.

Dave - You did a great job setting this up and selecting the right people. I am very happy that we do not have the problems in our club that I have seen in others.

Mega Hooah,



B
jd1 Offline
#14 Posted: Sun, Nov 9 2003, 8:04 AM EST
Joined: 02-14-2001
Posts: 3,118
Agree, the original b-day club has been tops and Dave did his homework well; seeking only those participants with a track record of a true BOTL. I truly hope it works out for the other b-day groups; it is a great concept to give a few sticks then sit back on your turn and get bombed.
cccbus Offline
#15 Posted: Sun, Nov 9 2003, 4:01 PM EST
Joined: 02-20-2003
Posts: 412
yes as admin for the third I to have had a few drop out and a few complaints. But I hope we are back on track. Sending an email to the person assuring him that you are still alive and will get his bomb is a great way to keep the flow smooth
martini Offline
#16 Posted: Sun, Nov 9 2003, 5:36 PM EST
Joined: 06-20-2003
Posts: 304
tone

i think your in my b day club???

martini
tonester666 Offline
#17 Posted: Mon, Nov 10 2003, 5:35 AM EST
Joined: 05-07-2003
Posts: 1,324
I'll have to check. I know I owe bday gars to 3 people at this time. They will go out this week. The one club has had so many changes I am not sure if I am up on who is in or out. I am pretty sure that I e-mailed everyone that I was late in sending.
cccbus Offline
#18 Posted: Mon, Nov 10 2003, 9:51 AM EST
Joined: 02-20-2003
Posts: 412
One thing we all agreed upon was from now on let all members take a vote on any newcomer that wants in to the DK Birthday club. the member has to have a valid reason and all members must agree and adhere to final say.

DK has also asked that the birthday person after a 2 week stay email him names of all parties that have not sent the BDAY person a bomb and DK will email that person and see what is happening at the homefront.
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