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MidnightToker( • )( • ) Offline
#251 Posted: Thu, Nov 9 2023, 1:47 PM EST
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danmdevries wrote:
Just finished open enrollment. Costs went up again. $186 more per paycheck for a $15k deductible plan. I hate this so much.

Looks like the tobacco free "discount" increased so it's just $86 more per check. Still crazy expensive.

Tobacco free discount is $100 per installment???
More than half the premium for smokers???
Do they just take your word for it too? I mean obviously you use tobacco..I would think they would do a carbon monoxide level test. That's what they do before major surgery to make sure u weren't smoking for weeks before.
MidnightToker( • )( • ) Offline
#252 Posted: Thu, Nov 9 2023, 1:56 PM EST
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I have what is said to be the best health plan, blue cross/blue shield but its the strangest policy. It's like a collective workplace policy. Everybody at my company pays either the same single rate regardless of their age, tobacco use, health and underlying conditions, etc. or the same family rate if they're married regardless if they have kids or how many. And if someone at the company gets really hurt or sick and usage goes above the previous year, everyone's premium goes up. If usage falls, premium goes down.
rfenst Offline
#253 Posted: Thu, Nov 9 2023, 4:51 PM EST
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MACS wrote:
The VA is run by the government. It's entirely inefficient, idiotic, and way behind current medicine. The doctors are overworked and underpaid. I don't think many of them stick around for very long. Not any good ones.

A lot of chity docs and docs about ready to retire but already should have = VA care in Orlando.
rfenst Offline
#254 Posted: Thu, Nov 9 2023, 4:55 PM EST
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MidnightToker( • )( • ) wrote:
I have what is said to be the best health plan, blue cross/blue shield but its the strangest policy. It's like a collective workplace policy. Everybody at my company pays either the same single rate regardless of their age, tobacco use, health and underlying conditions, etc. or the same family rate if they're married regardless if they have kids or how many. And if someone at the company gets really hurt or sick and usage goes above the previous year, everyone's premium goes up. If usage falls, premium goes down.

Is your employer self insured?
If not, your employer's plan is simply being "rated" annually.
RobertHively Offline
#255 Posted: Thu, Nov 9 2023, 6:35 PM EST
Joined: 01-14-2015
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PapaWhiskey wrote:
No bears where you and Robert are from? Around here in western mass if we put out bird feed the bears and squirrels take it. The squirrels can be outsmarted but the bears just smash the feeders. One of our neighbors had a bird's nest on one of the beams of their back deck two stories up. A bear skipped the stairs and climbed the outside beams to get the bird eggs.


I've only seen 3 bears in all of my travels--and I used to hike a lot.

Saw one in the George Washington National Forest, at the base of Shenandoah Mountain, near the Virginia / West Virginia border.

Second one I saw on Backbone Mountain, in far western Maryland.

Also saw one at Big South Fork National River, near Oneida, Tennessee.

I've lived here for two years and haven't seen one yet, even in the woods. I live in a remote area, relatively close to the Monongahela National Forest. They're here though. A lot of guys hunt for them, successfully.
RobertHively Offline
#256 Posted: Thu, Nov 9 2023, 6:38 PM EST
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HockeyDad wrote:
I got lazy and ordered pizza that night. I got some leftover pizza.



Did you get the DoorDash free dippin' "sauce"?
DrafterX Offline
#257 Posted: Thu, Nov 9 2023, 7:14 PM EST
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Thought I was gonna freeze to death one night in the Shenandoah Mountains one night.. went camping but didn't think about the elevation... I survived tho... Mellow
danmdevries Offline
#258 Posted: Fri, Nov 10 2023, 1:57 AM EST
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MidnightToker( • )( • ) wrote:
Tobacco free discount is $100 per installment???
More than half the premium for smokers???
Do they just take your word for it too? I mean obviously you use tobacco..I would think they would do a carbon monoxide level test. That's what they do before major surgery to make sure u weren't smoking for weeks before.


Tobacco free discount is now $300/paycheck. It's half of the employer contributions to the premiums.

Annual blood and piss test. Blood test for not just nicotine but also cotinine, a metabolite of nicotine that sticks around for a few weeks. They have never asked me if im a smoker. I've never lied about it. But as long as my blood and piss are clean I don't get fined.

I've never done a CO test on a preop. Piss test yes.
danmdevries Offline
#259 Posted: Fri, Nov 10 2023, 2:00 AM EST
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Happy Friday fellas
deadeyedick Offline
#260 Posted: Fri, Nov 10 2023, 7:01 AM EST
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Gentelmen!

Youngest daughter and husband are having us over for steaks tonight but the grandkids will not be there as one has to work and the other is traveling. Prolly be Christmas before we see them all.

Saturday is high school reunion. Last time I went to one I was very disappointed to see that the girl I lusted over back then had turned into a porker. "Everybody's so different, I haven't changed."
MACS Offline
#261 Posted: Fri, Nov 10 2023, 7:03 AM EST
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Need to get the trash bin out... and get the dog walk done.

Coffeed up and emptied out... Herfing
RiverRatRuss Offline
#262 Posted: Fri, Nov 10 2023, 7:41 AM EST
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Mornin Ya'll...

Forgot to mention the Mrs. and I lost our Big Kid back in August. Dallas was 11 yr old puppy to the end!!! Herfing

we still have our two Shelties who are getting up in age as well... the sad thing is, they had to witness Dallas passing he'd had a stroke in out bedroom around 4 am I woke to his legs kicking the closet door as he convulsed... I got down on the floor with him indian leg style pulled him up in my lap to cradle, he did not pass until 6:10 am and I couldn't do anything but try and comfort him as he weighed around 130 lbs,,, the thought of a 22 rnd behind his ear ran through my mind for the entire events.. I could not bring myself to doing so.. to early to call out for a friend to assist me to a Vet... Mrs. says no more pets after these two fellas go, we're going to be pet/kid free.. So about a week or so later she's showing me pictures of these ****zu pups and other Shelties in her newfeeds... WTF?? So I got a buddy who his GS just had a litter ready by Christmas... Now to pick out a name for this lil feller?? Beer

I'm thinking "Chunk" would be a good name? Herfing
Ram27 Offline
#263 Posted: Fri, Nov 10 2023, 8:28 AM EST
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Happy Friday one & all...................
Ram27 Offline
#264 Posted: Fri, Nov 10 2023, 8:29 AM EST
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RiverRatRuss wrote:
Mornin Ya'll...

Forgot to mention the Mrs. and I lost our Big Kid back in August. Dallas was 11 yr old puppy to the end!!! Herfing

we still have our two Shelties who are getting up in age as well... the sad thing is, they had to witness Dallas passing he'd had a stroke in out bedroom around 4 am I woke to his legs kicking the closet door as he convulsed... I got down on the floor with him indian leg style pulled him up in my lap to cradle, he did not pass until 6:10 am and I couldn't do anything but try and comfort him as he weighed around 130 lbs,,, the thought of a 22 rnd behind his ear ran through my mind for the entire events.. I could not bring myself to doing so.. to early to call out for a friend to assist me to a Vet... Mrs. says no more pets after these two fellas go, we're going to be pet/kid free.. So about a week or so later she's showing me pictures of these ****zu pups and other Shelties in her newfeeds... WTF?? So I got a buddy who his GS just had a litter ready by Christmas... Now to pick out a name for this lil feller?? Beer

I'm thinking "Chunk" would be a good name? Herfing





Shame on you
DrafterX Offline
#265 Posted: Fri, Nov 10 2023, 9:40 AM EST
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Cool Dudes...
DrafterX Offline
#266 Posted: Fri, Nov 10 2023, 9:41 AM EST
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poor Big Kid.... Sad
Gene363 Offline
#267 Posted: Fri, Nov 10 2023, 10:08 AM EST
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Good Friday Morning to All! It's 66° on the way to 76° today.

Soon, fingers crossed, I will be driving down to Statesboro, GA to pick up up a walk behind yard leaf blower. I am waiting on a replacement tire after hitting a chuck of metal yesterday that cut into the sidewall. Brick wall Still, yesterday was a fantastic day, we got to visit with a grandaughter we have not seen in about 14 years, oh happy day!

Herfing Applause Applause Applause
RiverRatRuss Offline
#268 Posted: Fri, Nov 10 2023, 11:00 AM EST
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The Problem with Old Man Winter is this.
I ain't gettin no younger and at my age now wearing Long Handles and Coverall's during the cold is damn near impossible not to **** my pants!!! Ya see I'm at that age to Never Trust a Fart!!! 😳😂🤔

https://youtu.be/ZjAP0yg1CrI?si=DqpgPDcwEgY-OoCQ
MidnightToker( • )( • ) Offline
#269 Posted: Fri, Nov 10 2023, 12:03 PM EST
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RiverRatRuss wrote:
The Problem with Old Man Winter is this.
I ain't gettin no younger and at my age now wearing Long Handles and Coverall's during the cold is damn near impossible not to **** my pants!!! Ya see I'm at that age to Never Trust a Fart!!! 😳😂🤔

https://youtu.be/ZjAP0yg1CrI?si=DqpgPDcwEgY-OoCQ

I've always been told once you reach 40, stop trusting farts.
MACS Offline
#270 Posted: Fri, Nov 10 2023, 2:45 PM EST
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MidnightToker( • )( • ) wrote:
I've always been told once you reach 40, stop trusting farts.


Pffft... I'll be 54 right quick and I still let 'em rip.
8trackdisco Offline
#271 Posted: Fri, Nov 10 2023, 3:17 PM EST
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After the dog walk, wife and I sucked it up and went over to her mom’s house for no apparent reason.

90 minutes worth of visiting. Left overs for lunch, settling into the recliner to watch some tv.

Have two cigar related get togethers tomorrow, so skipping the weekly Smokes & Bones this afternoon.
Ram27 Offline
#272 Posted: Fri, Nov 10 2023, 4:44 PM EST
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Well I started listening to Christmas 🤶 music Sirius XM channel 71.😶‍🌫️🎄
MACS Offline
#273 Posted: Fri, Nov 10 2023, 5:02 PM EST
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Ram27 wrote:
Well I started listening to Christmas 🤶 music Sirius XM channel 71.😶‍🌫️🎄


Way too soon.
Ram27 Offline
#274 Posted: Fri, Nov 10 2023, 5:47 PM EST
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Shame on you
8trackdisco Offline
#275 Posted: Fri, Nov 10 2023, 6:20 PM EST
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Ram27 wrote:
Shame on you


Ram….. too soon. Cantcha wait until day after Thanksgiving?

Do the Easter decorations get placed in the Pennsylvania snow in mid February?

Fireworks on May 15?
Palama Offline
#276 Posted: Fri, Nov 10 2023, 6:47 PM EST
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8trackdisco wrote:
Ram….. too soon. Cantcha wait until day after Thanksgiving?

Do the Easter decorations get placed in the Pennsylvania snow in mid February?

Fireworks on May 15?


My next door neighbor put up their Christmas lights earlier this week. At least they haven’t turned them on yet. Anxious
Ram27 Offline
#277 Posted: Fri, Nov 10 2023, 6:50 PM EST
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Gentlemen Gentlemen haven't youse been in the store's lately? Think

All the Christmas 🤶 stuff is out !Anxious
Palama Offline
#278 Posted: Fri, Nov 10 2023, 7:04 PM EST
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Ram27 wrote:
Gentlemen Gentlemen haven't youse been in the store's lately? Think

All the Christmas 🤶 stuff is out !Anxious


The Friday BEFORE Halloween, our youngest granddaughter wanted to look at more Halloween stuff but almost all of that was replaced by Christmas items. Not a single peep of Thanksgiving either. d'oh!
Ram27 Offline
#279 Posted: Fri, Nov 10 2023, 7:08 PM EST
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Two Seventy NEINER
8trackdisco Offline
#280 Posted: Fri, Nov 10 2023, 7:50 PM EST
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Ram27 wrote:
Gentlemen Gentlemen haven't youse been in the store's lately? Think

All the Christmas 🤶 stuff is out !Anxious


Just because it is the store doesn't mean you have to buy them. Jus' sayin'.
MACS Offline
#281 Posted: Fri, Nov 10 2023, 7:53 PM EST
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Palama wrote:
My next door neighbor put up their Christmas lights earlier this week. At least they haven’t turned them on yet. Anxious


So did mine... I said, dafuq you doin' bruh? Wife told him to. d'oh!
Ram27 Offline
#282 Posted: Fri, Nov 10 2023, 8:53 PM EST
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My my my NO Christmas 🤶 spirit here. Think
danmdevries Offline
#283 Posted: Sat, Nov 11 2023, 7:05 AM EST
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Happy Saturday fellas
deadeyedick Offline
#284 Posted: Sat, Nov 11 2023, 7:17 AM EST
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Ram27 wrote:
My my my NO Christmas 🤶 spirit here. Think


Time for a little Thanksgiving first.

Happy Saturday Ram and danm and youse guys.
MACS Offline
#285 Posted: Sat, Nov 11 2023, 7:45 AM EST
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Mornin' dudes.

Slept in. Went to bed a little after 9 and woke up after 6. Prolly needed that. Coffee now... movement next... then some more moving. Gonz
Gene363 Offline
#286 Posted: Sat, Nov 11 2023, 7:57 AM EST
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Good Saturday Morning to All! It's a rainy 49° on the way to 53° today.
Ram27 Offline
#287 Posted: Sat, Nov 11 2023, 9:09 AM EST
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Saturday greeting one & all and you 500 GRINCHES.!! LOL
DrafterX Offline
#288 Posted: Sat, Nov 11 2023, 9:27 AM EST
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Ram..!! Laugh
Ram27 Offline
#289 Posted: Sat, Nov 11 2023, 9:41 AM EST
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Hey X..😆
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#290 Posted: Sat, Nov 11 2023, 10:27 AM EST
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A nice sunny Saturday here in north central MA. Gonna be low to mid 40's. I made some nice shelves from scrap cuts at work. Solid oak with a clear finish. About 2 ft long, 3/4" thick and ripped it down to about 8 in deep. I'll hang them up in my son's room once he decides where he want's them.

Wanna put on some snow shoes on his car so I ordered some snow tires for him. Maybe a bit premature but I'd rather get them now before the rush. Besides it was $25 off per tire so saved a little money. They should be delivered this coming Monday. We'll just toss them in the garage and he can set up an appointment to get them mounted and balanced when it's convenient for him.

It's a make it up as you go domestic day. Nothing is set in stone other than groceries, laundry, and some standard weekly house cleaning.

Might change the shower curtain for a different color (gotta set goals, and my weekend goals are rather simple to achieve). I have a new green grass colored one that I'd like to use to replace the current beige and maroon one. Go for a light green color motif in the bathroom.

Badgers vs Northwest football game is on at 3:30. Maybe watch that along with a cat nap.
rfenst Offline
#291 Posted: Sat, Nov 11 2023, 10:56 AM EST
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Ram27 wrote:
Gentlemen Gentlemen haven 't youse been in the store's lately? Think

All the Christmas 🤶 stuff is out !Anxious

It was out like 45day s ago! Way before Halloween at Walmart.
I always know when they are well stocked there when I look up and see they have a couple hundred bicycles stored on hooks on the inside of the 20+ foot tall indoor-garden center.
So, is it also too early for me to start wishing people Merry Christmas? LOL.
DrafterX Offline
#292 Posted: Sat, Nov 11 2023, 11:45 AM EST
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Chiken-fried steak, 3 eggs, biscuit & gravy... BigGrin
MACS Offline
#293 Posted: Sat, Nov 11 2023, 11:59 AM EST
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DrafterX wrote:
Chiken-fried steak, 3 eggs, biscuit & gravy... BigGrin


Sounds delicious. I had a cup of honey Greek yogurt with almonds and walnuts.
Ram27 Offline
#294 Posted: Sat, Nov 11 2023, 12:12 PM EST
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rfenst wrote:
It was out like 45day s ago! Way before Halloween at Walmart.
I always know when they are well stocked there when I look up and see they have a couple hundred bicycles stored on hooks on the inside of the 20+ foot tall indoor-garden center.
So, is it also too early for me to start wishing people Merry Christmas? LOL.




Never to early Robert, Iffan this 500 isn't finished by Thanksgiving, rest assured I will change it. Think

RollEyes LOL LOL RollEyes
Gene363 Offline
#295 Posted: Sat, Nov 11 2023, 12:55 PM EST
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DrafterX wrote:
Chiken-fried steak, 3 eggs, biscuit & gravy... BigGrin


I do miss the excellent chicken fried steak in Texas. Drool
DrafterX Offline
#296 Posted: Sat, Nov 11 2023, 3:18 PM EST
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Ok State at UCF... should be entertaining.. Mellow
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#297 Posted: Sat, Nov 11 2023, 3:48 PM EST
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Carried a sack of corn to the hunting fort. Checked trail cam--some big bucks in the neighborhood.

Replaced starter solenoid on the 2003 Cub Cadet, was lucky to find an OEM part for a 20 yr old riding mower. Going to use that one to haul around the cart this fall/winter, save the hours on the 2023.

DED: My Maserati does one-eighty-five
I lost my license, now I don't drive
dkeage Offline
#298 Posted: Sat, Nov 11 2023, 4:24 PM EST
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DrafterX wrote:
Ok State at UCF... should be entertaining.. Mellow

d'oh!
HockeyDad Offline
#299 Posted: Sat, Nov 11 2023, 4:33 PM EST
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Go Knights!
DrafterX Offline
#300 Posted: Sat, Nov 11 2023, 5:17 PM EST
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Damn... hadn't been paying attention.. ain't skeertt..... Not talking

You know what they say... Mellow
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