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Florida Supreme Court approves ballot measure to legalize recreational marijuana
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If the provision gets 60 percent in November, it will legalize recreational marijuana in the country’s third-most populous state.


POLITICO

TALLAHASSEE, Florida — The Florida Supreme Court will not block a ballot initiative that seeks to legalize recreational marijuana use for adults in this year’s general election, giving a major boost to the effort to open up pot use in the third-most populous state in the country.

With the green light from Florida’s conservative-leaning high court and more than 1 million signed and certified voter petitions in hand, Florida voters will have a chance to weigh in on an issue the state’s Republican-led Legislature has rejected for years.

The decision was in response to a request made by Florida Republican Attorney General Ashley Moody to reject the ballot language, arguing the measure fails to remind voters about a federal ban on marijuana.

Florida’s Supreme Court in a 5-2 ruling determined that the ballot language proposed by the Smart & Safe Florida committee to go before voters in November’s election fit the state’s single-subject rule for ballot initiatives.

Justice Jamie Grosshans wrote in the majority opinion that the ballot language was not too confusing for voters, and rejected an argument that the proposed amendment would require the Legislature to create new licenses to sell pot beyond the companies currently allowed to sell medical marijuana.

“We do not believe the summary would confuse a voter into thinking that the Legislature is required to authorize additional licenses,” the opinion states, later adding, “It clearly states that the amendment legalizes adult personal possession and use of marijuana as a matter of Florida law.”

Smart & Safe Florida’s campaign was funded by more than $39 million from Trulieve, which is the largest medical marijuana company in Florida. The proposed amendment, if approved by 60 percent of voters in November, would allow Trulieve and the 24 other companies licensed by the state to sell and grow pot for medical use to begin selling to anyone over the age of 21.

“We are thankful that the Court has correctly ruled the ballot initiative and summary language meets the standards for single subject and clarity. We look forward to supporting this campaign as it heads to the ballot this Fall,” Trulieve CEO Kim Rivers wrote in a statement, later adding that a coalition of companies has formed to aid in the campaign to November.

Trulieve operates 131 of the 618 medical marijuana dispensaries in Florida, and Moody used the Tallahassee-based company’s market position to argue that the ballot language was not written within the best interest of voters.

Lawyers from Moody’s office argued in briefs — filed before the court heard oral arguments in November — that the company was footing the bill for the initiative so it could lure consumers to willfully break federal law in the name of profit.

The justices all but dismissed Moody’s arguments during oral arguments. The same court had previously rejected two legalization initiatives from recent election years, handing down decisions that identified several mistakes. Lawyers for Smart & Safe Florida argued that the proposed language sought to address the mistakes that were cited by the court in the previous decisions, and Moody’s lawyers argued that the court should reconsider parts of the previous decisions.

In Monday’s opinion Grosshans wrote the amendment does not violate the single subject rule by impacting the state’s medical pot industry.

“Selling and possessing marijuana appear, for better or worse, directly connected, and we cannot say that an amendment addressing both components violates the single-subject requirement,” the opinion states.

Gov. Ron DeSantis in 2019 was hailed a champion by medical marijuana businesses and patients just weeks after he first took office, after he called on the state Legislature to repeal a ban on the sale of smokable marijuana known as flower.

DeSantis has since signed legislation that tightened the state’s controls on medical marijuana marketing to further prevent advertising that attracts children and implied that products were for recreational use. And his annual state budget recommendations to the Legislature have included millions in funding to expand testing, safety and enforcement efforts at the Office of Medical Marijuana Use.

DeSantis has, however, called recreational pot use a “real problem,” even lamenting the plant’s “stench.” While campaigning for president last year, DeSantis told reporters that marijuana has become more potent over the past two decades and warned that it could be laced with fentanyl.

“I think it’s a real, real problem, and I think it’s a lot different than stuff that people were using 30 or 40 years ago,” DeSantis said. “And I think when kids get on that, I think it causes a lot of problems.”

Florida already has the largest medical marijuana program in the country, with more than 871,000 patients registered with the state Department of Health.

More than 71 percent of voters legalized pot for medical use in 2016 after a successful ballot initiative backed heavily by high-profile Orlando lawyer and self-proclaimed “Pot Daddy” John Morgan, who contributed close to $7 million in cash.


This is seriously big business. Licenses to grow and sell medical MJ are about $50-55 million each to the state. Anyone want to bet that this initiative raises another $45 million? I say it will.
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Surprising, with all the old, retired boomers down here so against it.

I don't care one way or the other. It's too potent for me, nowadays.
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https://www.reuters.com/legal/litigation/where-things-stand-summary-pending-federal-cannabis-legislation-2024-02-07/
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just in time for a 4/20 easter... gives a whole new meaning to easter grass!!!!!
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It’s done wonders here!

sarcasm
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drglnc wrote:
just in time for a 4/20 easter... gives a whole new meaning to easter grass!!!!!


If it doesn't hit the ballot until November...and it takes 6 months for it to register...that target is getting missed. Maybe tie it in with a real movie from Cheech & Chong instead of the documentary.

https://www.rollingstone.com/tv-movies/tv-movie-features/cheech-and-chong-documentary-sxsw-interview-1234982728/

Cheech & Chong Go To Disney World.


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Most people who have experience with it understand that its hypocrisy allowing alcohol to be legal but not marijuana.
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MidnightToker( • )( • ) wrote:
Most people who have experience with it understand that its hypocrisy allowing alcohol to be legal but not marijuana.


100%. 35 years ago I would have strongly preferred pot to booze... but the mutha fuggers engineered the sheit out of it and it's just too damn potent for me, now. If I could find some that was like what I smoked in HS... game changer.

But that stuff is long gone.
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MACS wrote:
100%. 35 years ago I would have strongly preferred pot to booze... but the mutha fuggers engineered the sheit out of it and it's just too damn potent for me, now. If I could find some that was like what I smoked in HS... game changer.

But that stuff is long gone.

You are smoking the wrong stuff and/or too much.

If, after 30 years of non-use, you smoke a joint today that is the size of what you used to roll 30 years ago, you would be higher than you could ever want to be. I would be too...

There are also other ways to try it where you can accurately titrate the dose to miniscule amounts (e.g. vape, edibles), which probably would be something for you to try if you want to try it again.
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MACS wrote:
Surprising, with all the old, retired boomers down here so against it.

Nope. You see them in dispensaries all the time. It's a freedom of choice issue. People just don't care about it anymore. And, we have the largest medical marijuana patient registry in the country. It will pass.
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The baby boomer generation was brainwashed by the government with movies like reefer madness that is so out of touch its ridiculous. That generation is retiring and lawmakers who weren't brainwashed are taking office.

When I was in HS they pushed an anti-AIDS campaign and had us all brainwashed to think if we had unprotected sex we would get AIDS.
I don't know anyone with AIDS. They over-hyped that as well.

P.S. If u try edibles with no tolerance start small like half a 5mg gummy and wait an hour. Experiment slowly moving up cause if u eat too much you'll regret it.

You can also get delta 8 or 9 in all states even where recreational is illegal. It's not as potent.
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Donations spike after Florida Supreme Court allows recreational marijuana on the 2024 ballot


News Service of Florida

TALLAHASSEE --- The state Supreme Court’s ruling this week that will give voters a chance to decide whether to allow recreational marijuana sparked a flurry of contributions to the Smart & Safe Florida political committee that’s backing the proposal.

Trulieve, the state’s largest medical-marijuana operator, pumped $40 million into the committee before the Supreme Court ruled Monday that the measure met constitutional muster. The Trulieve money went primarily toward collecting needed petition signatures.

The court’s 5-2 opinion gave the go-ahead for the measure to appear as Amendment 3 on the November ballot, and more medical-marijuana operators are jumping on board the recreational weed train.

Smart & Safe Florida announced Wednesday it had collected another $15 million to kick off the next phase of the pro-pot campaign.

“We are not only pleased that the court has agreed to move this initiative forward, but we are also thrilled to announce a strong alliance of committed donors to the effort,” Smart & Safe Florida Chairman David Bellamy, of the musical group The Bellamy Brothers, said in a statement.

The committee faces a deadline next week for filing a finance report showing contributions through March 31. So if the additional money came in after the Supreme Court ruling, it could be a while before details emerge about exactly who gave what, and how much they gave.

But a Smart & Safe Florida news release said reports “will soon show a broad group of companies” are giving some green for the effort, including medical-marijuana operators Verano Holdings Corp., Curaleaf Holdings, Inc, AYR Wellness, Inc., Cresco Labs. Inc., Green Thumb Industries, Inc., and INSA, Inc.

In a separate news release, Verano --- the state’s second-largest medical-marijuana company --- declared its support for the effort.

“Verano and Florida’s constituents are primed to benefit should Amendment 3 pass this November. As one of the nation’s leading cannabis companies with operations in 13 states, 138 dispensaries and 14 cultivation and production facilities, Verano has deep experience transitioning from medical to adult use, most recently in Maryland (July ’23) and Connecticut (January ’23),” the company’s release said.

As with other proposed constitutional changes, Amendment 3 would require 60 percent voter approval for passage --- an expensive and difficult hurdle for many ballot initiatives. The Smart & Safe Florida committee had spent all of the $40 million contributed by Trulieve as of Dec. 31, the last publicly available finance information.

“We have come a long way, but our work has only just begun,” the committee’s news release said.
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rfenst wrote:
You are smoking the wrong stuff and/or too much.

If, after 30 years of non-use, you smoke a joint today that is the size of what you used to roll 30 years ago, you would be higher than you could ever want to be. I would be too...

There are also other ways to try it where you can accurately titrate the dose to miniscule amounts (e.g. vape, edibles), which probably would be something for you to try if you want to try it again.


Bruh... I know about weed. I was a pot smokin' fool in HS. Been to a few pot stores in CA. Not ONE of them had sheit less than 20% THC. Not ONE. Most around 25-30%. That's ridiculous. Sheit we got back in the day was 3-5% if we were lucky.

I took one toke off the stuff my HS buddy left. One small toke... I was high as f--k for 4-5 hours. That's too damn much.
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MACS wrote:
Bruh... I know about weed. I was a pot smokin' fool in HS. Been to a few pot stores in CA. Not ONE of them had sheit less than 20% THC. Not ONE. Most around 25-30%. That's ridiculous. Sheit we got back in the day was 3-5% if we were lucky.

I took one toke off the stuff my HS buddy left. One small toke... I was high as f--k for 4-5 hours. That's too damn much.

The stuff from when we were in high school can't even be compared to the strains available now. It it is not just THC that is responsible for you being too high. Terpenes are other substances found in MJ and they have a tremendous effect too.

If I were you and was going to try to smoke again, I would start out with a bowl with just a small piece of MJ about the size of a grain of rice or two. THAT'S ALL! Then wait like 15 minutes for its full effect and then decide if you want more.

BTW, if you ever get too high again, simply chew on some black peppercorns (1-2) and your high will dissipate freal fast because it plugs the same brain receptors MJ binds to.

Just sayin'.
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I don’t smoke but know a lot more about it than those that do because I smoked 35-40 years ago.

I am Farticus!
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The days of making a wrapper by gluing 3 ZigZags across by 2 high are gone. No more splitting a 4 finger bag into 4 big Bob Marley joints. A 4 finger bag of today’s ganja will get everyone in an entire concert venue high.
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Farticus wrote:
I don’t smoke but know a lot more about it than those that do because I smoked 35-40 years ago.

I am Farticus!


You're an ass holio is what you are. You probably know all about how safe and effective the covid shot is, too... because you have access to information nobody else has. LOL

Abrignac wrote:
The days of making a wrapper by gluing 3 ZigZags across by 2 high are gone. No more splitting a 4 finger bag into 4 big Bob Marley joints. A 4 finger bag of today’s ganja will get everyone in an entire concert venue high.


My point Ed Zachary!
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Just a wild ass guess but my money is on Teedub being Farticus
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The floor is still there the ceiling is much higher. Just because you can get phenomenal weed nowadays, which is a great thing, does not mean you can’t still get low power weed and roll Marley if you want to.

Some people want very low power to the point you hardly get high at all for medical purposes. Others prefer the really low power shake, and other **** selections for whatever reasons. Ditch weed never went away.

You do not know what you were talking about, but I don’t expect that to stop you.

Your lack of education has failed you.

I am Farticus!
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^Says the guy who was consistently wrong and won't even come back to face the music. Your "education" has failed you.

Now kindly go fornicate yourself.
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I don't smoke weed and don't really have a desire to. We have one dispensary in town (I think they are going to add another) where, if I wanted, I could go there and get a bunch of different versions like flowers, edibles, pre-rolled joints, vapes, topical creams (I don't even know the terminology anymore) both in CBD and THC choices.

Here in MA pot is legal for both medical and recreation. I'm 100% on board with it used as a medication for many issues both physical and mental. CBD and THC have been proven time and time again to be a non addictive pain killer and they also alleviate other medical issues. I'm also 100% on board on using it as a "recreation" drug. I do not promote drug use but pot is less destructive to the body and mind than alcohol or tobacco.

As for potency, I would guess it's like 10x more than what I smoked and grew some 30 yrs ago in college. It's probably cleaner and more refined. It's probably 10x the price too. Back in my day it was around $20 an eighth, $40 for a quarter oz then you clean out seeds and stems. Now days it probably doesn't contain seed or stems. I don't even know the last time I smoked any. Maybe I should stop in at the pot shop one of these days. My guess is with one inhale, I'd probably be zonked out for half a day.

If you want to grow your own, here in MA you can legally grow 6 plants/person (have to be 21 yrs or older) with a max of 12 plants/home.
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When I retired from the USN I promptly got my medical card in CA - which was a joke but that’s a whole ‘ other topic. I went to the dispensary which was immaculately clean and comfortable and I had to wait in the waiting room because they allowed only 2 “patients “ at a time into the area where they kept the MJ. They offered me a bottle of cold water and asked me to register with them, otherwise you could not purchase your MJ there. In the registration process there was a questionnaire asking me about appetite, pain, sleep and what supplements and prescription drugs I took and what medical conditions I had. You could leave all of that blank if you wanted to and they could not really do anything about it. I told them about my pain, muscle spasms, trouble sleeping, etc.. The guy dispensing the MJ talked to me briefly about my questionnaire and suggested 2 different strains and a couple different flowers from each strain. He told me how and where it was grown and later tested at an independent lab, so I knew it was clean and pure w/o anything “laced” into it. The dispenser recommended I start with a purchase of a gram from each strain. I thought…a gram? WTF? I was expecting to buy an oz.. So I got the 2 grams went home, packed a very small amount, 2 medium tokes I’d guess, and I was blown out of my socks for several hours. And it did work very well for the symptoms I had. My tolerance increased quickly right at first and then gradually over a period of about 7 or 8 years. By then, the dispensaries were less professionally managed and the offerings were much more divers with dabs, wax, hash, kief, various edibles, pre-rolls, oils, creams and bottled drinks. Oh…and butter of course. Cana butter is wonderful when you can find it made properly. I haven’t smoked in a few years because it got to where it didn’t seem to help my pain and muscle spasms and sleep problems as it once did. Now I take a few different pills a couple times a day and one of the pills constipates me and is putting mild press on my kidney and liver function, nothing scary yet but it is there. I’ve had surgical intervention and I’ve got the steroid injections every 4 months now. The MJ worked very well for me for quite a while. I’m grateful that I had the opportunity to use it. I’m regretful that I had to pay for it when other meds are provided via insurance. I’m happy that I stopped using MJ when it no longer helped me with my symptoms. I think medical MJ should e available to those who want to use it, even if recreational MJ is also legal. Medical MJ has a strict chain of custody from the farm to the lab to the dispensary. Each batch is tested and CBD / THC is measured and you know it is clean and natural, “organic” by requirement of the law. Medical MJ protects the medical user and I think it is a terrific option for some people, even if it is only temporary.
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Cannabutter is actual butter infused with MJ to make edibles. Butter is the perfect vessel for THC because of the fat compounds for it to bond to. Also, you can use the butter to make several different foods, and/or refrigerate or freeze it which helps keep the THC fresh and potent.

The "budder" you're referring to (spelled with d's) is a type of concentrate or "dab" as the kids call it. It can be smoked with a torch lighter and is best as a topper with a bowl of flower.
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Just heard on the news that polling for passing the recreational Amendment is currently below the 60% threshold to pass. I don't believe that will be the case.
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MidnightToker( • )( • ) wrote:
Cannabutter is actual butter infused with MJ to make edibles. Butter is the perfect vessel for THC because of the fat compounds for it to bond to. Also, you can use the butter to make several different foods, and/or refrigerate or freeze it which helps keep the THC fresh and potent.

The "budder" you're referring to (spelled with d's) is a type of concentrate or "dab" as the kids call it. It can be smoked with a torch lighter and is best as a topper with a bowl of flower.


Yes, I’ve tried the dabs and wax and didn’t really care for it much. The butter I’ve made myself but it was a pain in the butt(er). I finally found a place that sold the butter and I usually put it on English muffins and ate it with scrambled eggs. Then suddenly they stopped selling it and I haven’t had it since.
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jeebling wrote:
Yes, I’ve tried the dabs and wax and didn’t really care for it much. The butter I’ve made myself but it was a pain in the butt(er). I finally found a place that sold the butter and I usually put it on English muffins and ate it with scrambled eggs. Then suddenly they stopped selling it and I haven’t had it since.

Just buy 1gm syringes of THC concentrate or RSO and squeeze out enough to measure 5-10mg doses (size of a grain of rice).

You can also dilute it in food grade coconut oil and use a dropper to accurately measure/dose. I recommend this for accuracy

A typical syringe is 67-81% THC and you can divide it into 30-60ml of coconut oil and calculate the dosage of a 1ml graduated syringe (1/4ml, 1/2ml and 3/4 ml). Just divide the total amount of THC into the amount of oil to calculate the dose of 1ml. If 1mg of the oil is too much, take less.

I use a 30mg bottle I got from Amazon with a graduated 1ml dropper.
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What’s that song about the needle and spoon?

Wheel was right? Gateway drug.

Rfenster don’t inject another marijuana ever again!
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Make fun all you want...
But, I haven't taken a muscle relaxant (narcotic) or anti-inflammatory in over a week.
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rfenst wrote:
Just heard on the news that polling for passing the recreational Amendment is currently below the 60% threshold to pass. I don't believe that will be the case.



Heard a house representative go on the record he believes both bills will go down in failure. To hear him talk was literally laughable. The radio host gave him avenues and he wasn't budging. Even when faced with the taxation and anti-crime angles...wasn't having it. No wonder it's stalled for so long in Tallahassee. It's all the wrong thinking to stave off progress. Dragging the dead across the finish line isn't a good look. When you couple the weather, the beaches, being a perennial Spring Break destination, and the amusement parks it's a no-brainer.

I believe it passes with close to 70%.
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DrMaddVibe wrote:
Heard a house representative go on the record he believes both bills will go down in failure. To hear him talk was literally laughable. The radio host gave him avenues and he wasn't budging. Even when faced with the taxation and anti-crime angles...wasn't having it. No wonder it's stalled for so long in Tallahassee. It's all the wrong thinking to stave off progress. Dragging the dead across the finish line isn't a good look. When you couple the weather, the beaches, being a perennial Spring Break destination, and the amusement parks it's a no-brainer.

I believe it passes with close to 70%.

I do too.
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rfenst wrote:
Just buy 1gm syringes of THC concentrate or RSO and squeeze out enough to measure 5-10mg doses (size of a grain of rice).

You can also dilute it in food grade coconut oil and use a dropper to accurately measure/dose. I recommend this for accuracy

A typical syringe is 67-81% THC and you can divide it into 30-60ml of coconut oil and calculate the dosage of a 1ml graduated syringe (1/4ml, 1/2ml and 3/4 ml). Just divide the total amount of THC into the amount of oil to calculate the dose of 1ml. If 1mg of the oil is too much, take less.

I use a 30mg bottle I got from Amazon with a graduated 1ml dropper.


That’s useful information. Thanks. Next time in close to a medical grade dispensary I’ll probably try this.
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It will be legal in the entire country, probably even federally legal in due time. Im thinking 10-15 years because were halfway there in 12 years.
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MidnightToker( • )( • ) wrote:
It will be legal in the entire country, probably even federally legal in due time. Im thinking 10-15 years because were halfway there in 12 years.


Need 23 states...not districts or territories to have it voted in as recreational and the Feds have to change their laws. The states have superceded them. I think it's going to be sooner than 10-15 years.

It's stupid that they still want to hold on to it's classification.
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DrMaddVibe wrote:
Need 23 states...not districts or territories to have it voted in as recreational and the Feds have to change their laws. The states have superceded them. I think it's going to be sooner than 10-15 years.

It's stupid that they still want to hold on to it's classification.

There are 24 recreational now. Plus D.C. Florida would be 25 and the half mark. 13 states allow medical, and 7 states decriminalized so there are only like 6 states where it is criminal. So you're right it's probably gonna be more like 10 or less years.
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PA is trying to repeal a law that says if you have a medical card, you can't have a concealed carry permit. Even though you can carry your gun into a bar in PA. Even though you can consume alcohol with a gun on you. You can't carry a gun if u use MJ even when not carrying. Stupid law considering alcohol is much more likely to cause you to make a dumb decision with that gun.
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MidnightToker( • )( • ) wrote:
There are 24 recreational now. Plus D.C. Florida would be 25 and the half mark. 13 states allow medical, and 7 states decriminalized so there are only like 6 states where it is criminal. So you're right it's probably gonna be more like 10 or less years.



You're right...it's 26 is the magic number. My bad.

The more that comes out for the states...they're gonna bumrush for the door to get it legal. Just look at Colorado. Lowered taxes...passed a bunch of infrastructure bills...all positives.


And yes, a lot safer than booze out there.
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DrMaddVibe wrote:
You're right...it's 26 is the magic number. My bad.

The more that comes out for the states...they're gonna bumrush for the door to get it legal. Just look at Colorado. Lowered taxes...passed a bunch of infrastructure bills...all positives.


And yes, a lot safer than booze out there.

26 makes more sense because that becomes the majority. Even if it isn't on Florida's ballot, it's been on 3-4 states ballots in every presidential election since 2012. So hopefully November will break that threshold.
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MidnightToker( • )( • ) wrote:
26 makes more sense because that becomes the majority. Even if it isn't on Florida's ballot, it's been on 3-4 states ballots in every presidential election since 2012. So hopefully November will break that threshold.



"An amendment may be proposed by a two-thirds vote of both Houses of Congress, or, if two-thirds of the States request one, by a convention called for that purpose. The amendment must then be ratified by three-fourths of the State legislatures, or three-fourths of conventions called in each State for ratification."

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I'm anti all war, including the drug war.

Adults can do what they want as long as it doesn't hurt others.

That's my take on it.
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Congress / States don’t really need to do anything. An unelected body of officials known as the DEA can change the drug schedule and all of the states will have to abide by that law.


Controlled (scheduled) drugs, substances, and certain chemicals are ones whose use and distribution are tightly controlled because of their abuse potential or risk. Controlled drugs are rated in the order of their abuse risk and placed in Schedules by the Federal Drug Enforcement Administration (DEA). The drugs with the highest abuse, and potential for psychological and/or physical dependence, are placed in Schedule I, and those with the lowest abuse potential are in Schedule V. These schedules are commonly shown as C-I, C-II, C-III, C-IV, and C-V. Some examples of drugs in these Schedules are as follows:

Schedule I — drugs with a high abuse risk. These drugs have NO safe, accepted medical use in the United States. Some examples are heroin, marijuana, LSD, PCP, and crack cocaine.

Schedule II — drugs with a high abuse risk, but also have safe and accepted medical uses in the United States. These drugs can cause severe psychological or physical dependence. Schedule II drugs include certain narcotics, stimulants, and depressant drugs. Some examples are morphine, cocaine, oxycodone (OxyContin®), , methylphenidate (Ritalin®), and dextroamphetamine (Dexedrine®).

Schedule III, IV, or V — drugs with an abuse risk less than Schedule II. These drugs also have safe and accepted medical uses in the United States. Schedule III, IV, or V drugs include those containing smaller amounts of certain narcotic and non-narcotic drugs, anti-anxiety drugs, tranquilizers, sedatives, stimulants, and non-narcotic analgesics. Some examples are acetaminophen with codeine (Tylenol® No.3), paregoric, diazepam (Valium®), alprazolam (Xanax®) and pentazocine (Talwin®)
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#41 Posted:
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So MJ is classified as having no medical use? And it's classified as being worse and more addictive than the synthetic heroin and meth the FDA allows big pharma to peddle? That's a joke.
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#42 Posted:
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MidnightToker( • )( • ) wrote:
So MJ is classified as having no medical use? And it's classified as being worse and more addictive than the synthetic heroin and meth the FDA allows big pharma to peddle? That's a joke.

Yeah, but it is what it is. How about this?


Group backing recreational pot amendment touts support from veterans coalition
'Many of our brave veterans across the country and here in Florida have been strong advocates for the freedom to access a legal, regulated cannabis market.'



FLORIDA POLITICS
The main group looking to pass a ballot measure legalizing marijuana for recreational use is gathering a coalition of veterans to support the amendment.

Smart & Safe Florida, whose political committee is backed mostly by Trulieve, a Tallahassee-based medical marijuana company, backed the effort to put the measure on the ballot as Amendment 3. Now, the organization is trying to shore up support among voters to get over the 60% threshold needed in November to legalize recreational pot.

“Many of our brave veterans across the country and here in Florida have been strong advocates for the freedom to access a legal, regulated cannabis market,” reads a statement from Smart & Safe Florida.

“The ‘Vets Vote #YesOn3’ coalition will work throughout Florida to educate, advocate, and turn out voters to support Amendment 3 on the November ballot, focusing on the significance of cannabis as a safe and effective alternative to synthetic opioids, which are commonly prescribed to treat PTSD and other conditions.”

According to the group, the coalition includes more than 600 Florida veterans.

Amendment 3 would legalize the use of marijuana for recreational purposes by those over 21. It would also grant licensed medical marijuana treatment centers the ability to “acquire, cultivate, process, manufacture, sell, and distribute” marijuana and related products for such use.

The amendment also notes that it doesn’t change federal law, which still classifies marijuana as a Schedule I drug that is illegal.

If 60% of voters approve the measure, it would take effect six months after the November election.

Trulieve put more than $40 million behind the effort to get Amendment 3 on the ballot, and was joined by Curaleaf, Verano Holdings, Greenthumb Industries, Ayr Wellness Inc. and Cresco Labs to give $14.9 million in the first three months of the year.

Smart & Safe Florida stated that the coalition is the first of many to come.

A poll released by Florida Atlantic University last week showed 47% of voters support the measure. The age group with the lowest level of support were those over 65, with just 36%.
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#43 Posted:
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MidnightToker( • )( • ) wrote:
So MJ is classified as having no medical use? And it's classified as being worse and more addictive than the synthetic heroin and meth the FDA allows big pharma to peddle? That's a joke.


Always has been a joke...
jeebling Offline
#44 Posted:
Joined: 08-04-2015
Posts: 1,197
MidnightToker( • )( • ) wrote:
So MJ is classified as having no medical use? And it's classified as being worse and more addictive than the synthetic heroin and meth the FDA allows big pharma to peddle? That's a joke.


EXACTLY. MJ and heroin in the same category? Complete joke. But unelected agencies are ruling our country. FDA. DEA, FBI, and the whole alphabet soup. No accountability to the citizens.
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#45 Posted:
Joined: 08-04-2015
Posts: 1,197
rfenst wrote:

Yeah, but it is what it is. How about this?


Group backing recreational pot amendment touts support from veterans coalition
'Many of our brave veterans across the country and here in Florida have been strong advocates for the freedom to access a legal, regulated cannabis market.'



FLORIDA POLITICS
The main group looking to pass a ballot measure legalizing marijuana for recreational use is gathering a coalition of veterans to support the amendment.

Smart & Safe Florida, whose political committee is backed mostly by Trulieve, a Tallahassee-based medical marijuana company, backed the effort to put the measure on the ballot as Amendment 3. Now, the organization is trying to shore up support among voters to get over the 60% threshold needed in November to legalize recreational pot.

“Many of our brave veterans across the country and here in Florida have been strong advocates for the freedom to access a legal, regulated cannabis market,” reads a statement from Smart & Safe Florida.

“The ‘Vets Vote #YesOn3’ coalition will work throughout Florida to educate, advocate, and turn out voters to support Amendment 3 on the November ballot, focusing on the significance of cannabis as a safe and effective alternative to synthetic opioids, which are commonly prescribed to treat PTSD and other conditions.”

According to the group, the coalition includes more than 600 Florida veterans.

Amendment 3 would legalize the use of marijuana for recreational purposes by those over 21. It would also grant licensed medical marijuana treatment centers the ability to “acquire, cultivate, process, manufacture, sell, and distribute” marijuana and related products for such use.

The amendment also notes that it doesn’t change federal law, which still classifies marijuana as a Schedule I drug that is illegal.

If 60% of voters approve the measure, it would take effect six months after the November election.

Trulieve put more than $40 million behind the effort to get Amendment 3 on the ballot, and was joined by Curaleaf, Verano Holdings, Greenthumb Industries, Ayr Wellness Inc. and Cresco Labs to give $14.9 million in the first three months of the year.

Smart & Safe Florida stated that the coalition is the first of many to come.

A poll released by Florida Atlantic University last week showed 47% of voters support the measure. The age group with the lowest level of support were those over 65, with just 36%.



rfenst, what I find so ironic is that the demographic of age 65+ has been the fasting growing percentage of first time users and it is due to medical MJ. The same demographic has the lowest support for decriminalizing MJ. How’s that for a head scratcher?
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