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Whistlebritches Offline
#1 Posted: Thu, Mar 30 2023, 10:02 PM EST
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https://www.cnn.com/politics/live-news/trump-indictment-hush-money-stormy-daniels/index.html

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/trump-indicted-manhattan-da-probe-stormy-daniels-hush-money-payment

Yet "The Big Guy" and Hunter continue to get a pass.

January 6th wasn't schit compared to what's coming.

Please discuss .............
rfenst Offline
#2 Posted: Thu, Mar 30 2023, 11:52 PM EST
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WSJ

What happens next?
The indictment will kick off a process in which Mr. Trump will likely travel to Manhattan to face the charges. An indictment and an arrest warrant are typically filed under seal with the court before becoming public. Prosecutors will now likely negotiate with Mr. Trump’s lawyers a time and date for his surrender. The indictment will remain sealed until after Mr. Trump was formally arrested and booked.

“We won’t see a copy of that indictment or know definitively what the charges are until he is arraigned by a judge,” said Karen Agnifilo, a former prosecutor in the Manhattan district attorney’s office.[/i]


I am personally waiting to see what the exact charges even are except for the judge, DA and Trump and his lawyers.

https://www.wsj.com/articles/how-a-potential-indictment-and-arrest-of-donald-trump-could-unfold-456b06d5?mod=series_trumpmanhattanda

Great, short, objective read from Rupert Murdoch's own conservative newspaper:
rfenst Offline
#3 Posted: Fri, Mar 31 2023, 12:23 AM EST
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Whistlebritches wrote:
January 6th wasn't schit compared to what's coming.

What's coming?
Please tell us!
RiverRatRuss Offline
#4 Posted: Fri, Mar 31 2023, 6:43 AM EST
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rfenst wrote:
What's coming?
Please tell us!


Pences Testimony... I seen it was gunna happen.. Herfing
DrMaddVibe Offline
#5 Posted: Fri, Mar 31 2023, 6:49 AM EST
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rfenst wrote:
What's coming?
Please tell us!



Comedian Chris Rock gazed out at the audience at an awards ceremony in Washington earlier this month. “Are you guys really going to arrest Trump?” he asked bluntly. “This is only going to make him more popular!”
RayR Offline
#6 Posted: Fri, Mar 31 2023, 7:54 AM EST
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rfenst wrote:
What's coming?
Please tell us!


Maybe another big azz show trial to feed the MSM and keep the proles amused?
RiverRatRuss Offline
#7 Posted: Fri, Mar 31 2023, 8:11 AM EST
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So are we going to witness a George Floyd takedown by cops.. saying Trump Resisted Arrest?

or is he going to self inflict behind cell bars like Epstien?? Think Brick wall Brick wall

They gotta shut Trump up Somehow...
8trackdisco Offline
#8 Posted: Fri, Mar 31 2023, 9:10 AM EST
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Whistlebritches wrote:
https://www.cnn.com/politics/live-news/trump-indictment-hush-money-stormy-daniels/index.html

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/trump-indicted-manhattan-da-probe-stormy-daniels-hush-money-payment

Yet "The Big Guy" and Hunter continue to get a pass.

January 6th wasn't schit compared to what's coming.

Please discuss .............


Just another step getting us to the point where we will have to decide on whether we prefer Socialism or Fascism. The two current big box political religions aren't helping the situation.

Sure. Indict Trump. Walk him through the process, find him guilty or not guilty. Then wait. Wait for the Republicans to (eventually) get the power of the white house, house and senate and pull Hillary Clinton for Bengazi, Biden for the Ukraine thing, Obama for Fast and Furious, Bush for starting an unwarranted war in Iraq.

Maybe we amend the constitution to send all of our president's to jail for 2 years after they leave office. Save us a bunch of time and money in investigations and grand standing speeches on C-Span.

Can't transition our government into a banana republic until all the red and blue monkeys can screech, throw fecal matter at each other and act like raging silverbacks.

Morons.
HockeyDad Offline
#9 Posted: Fri, Mar 31 2023, 9:21 AM EST
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I’m hoping they hold Trump without bail. No reason to go halfway on this.
Brewha Offline
#10 Posted: Fri, Mar 31 2023, 9:25 AM EST
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rfenst wrote:
What's coming?
Please tell us!

Trump asks for donations.
And protests.
And then more donations.


My question is will t-shirts with his mug shot out sell the NFTs….
Brewha Offline
#11 Posted: Fri, Mar 31 2023, 9:28 AM EST
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8trackdisco wrote:
Just another step getting us to the point where we will have to decide on whether we prefer Socialism or Fascism. The two current big box political religions aren't helping the situation.

Sure. Indict Trump. Walk him through the process, find him guilty or not guilty. Then wait. Wait for the Republicans to (eventually) get the power of the white house, house and senate and pull Hillary Clinton for Bengazi, Biden for the Ukraine thing, Obama for Fast and Furious, Bush for starting an unwarranted war in Iraq.

Maybe we amend the constitution to send all of our president's to jail for 2 years after they leave office. Save us a bunch of time and money in investigations and grand standing speeches on C-Span.

Can't transition our government into a banana republic until all the red and blue monkeys can screech, throw fecal matter at each other and act like raging silverbacks.

Morons.

Just to be clear - if he did break the law - should he be tired for it?

Should Trump or Clinton be above the law?
RayR Offline
#12 Posted: Fri, Mar 31 2023, 9:30 AM EST
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HockeyDad wrote:
I’m hoping they hold Trump without bail. No reason to go halfway on this.


They have cashless bail in NY...because cash bail is racist or something.
HockeyDad Offline
#13 Posted: Fri, Mar 31 2023, 9:33 AM EST
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I just hope this whole indictment thing doesn’t distract from today’s Transgender Day of Visibility.
Brewha Offline
#14 Posted: Fri, Mar 31 2023, 9:39 AM EST
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HockeyDad wrote:
I just hope this whole indictment thing doesn’t distract from today’s Transgender Day of Visibility.

Always thinking of others are we?
JGKAMIN Offline
#15 Posted: Fri, Mar 31 2023, 9:47 AM EST
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8trackdisco wrote:
Just another step getting us to the point where we will have to decide on whether we prefer Socialism or Fascism. The two current big box political religions aren't helping the situation.

Sure. Indict Trump. Walk him through the process, find him guilty or not guilty. Then wait. Wait for the Republicans to (eventually) get the power of the white house, house and senate and pull Hillary Clinton for Bengazi, Biden for the Ukraine thing, Obama for Fast and Furious, Bush for starting an unwarranted war in Iraq.

Maybe we amend the constitution to send all of our president's to jail for 2 years after they leave office. Save us a bunch of time and money in investigations and grand standing speeches on C-Span.

Except it’s never going to happen. Always waiting for the smoking gun and when it materializes waiting for the process to play out and it never amounts to anything.
Gene363 Offline
#16 Posted: Fri, Mar 31 2023, 10:54 AM EST
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No complaints about the title, of course not, Biden is their man.
HockeyDad Offline
#17 Posted: Fri, Mar 31 2023, 11:07 AM EST
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Brewha wrote:
Always thinking of others are we?


Don’t worry….I got your back.
HockeyDad Offline
#18 Posted: Fri, Mar 31 2023, 11:08 AM EST
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RayR wrote:
They have cashless bail in NY...because cash bail is racist or something.


No bail. He’s a flight risk. He has his own 757.
DrafterX Offline
#19 Posted: Fri, Mar 31 2023, 11:09 AM EST
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757, 758.. whatever it takes... Mellow
Brewha Offline
#20 Posted: Fri, Mar 31 2023, 12:30 PM EST
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HockeyDad wrote:
No bail. He’s a flight risk. He has his own 757.

i heard he wasn’t keeping up the payments…..
rfenst Offline
#21 Posted: Fri, Mar 31 2023, 1:10 PM EST
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[quote=HockeyDad]I’m hoping they hold Trump without bail.quote]
In Florida state courts, you can skip Arraignment on a misdemeanor by solely having your lawyer file papers pleading not guilty- unless there is a bond issue.

I don't see Trump NOT being released on his own reconnaissance if he shows up.

Most difficult thing for him over the next few days will be keeping his mouth shut if there is a Temporary Gag Order...
RobertHively Offline
#22 Posted: Fri, Mar 31 2023, 1:51 PM EST
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This angers the rural proles bigly.

It's such a strange world we live in...

The people who support Trump are largely anti mrna vax, yet he was the one that ok'd and pushed the vax, along with the govt tyranny, when he was CEO of the United States Corporation. They love him though.

On the flip side of the coin is the Branch Covidians. They can't get boosted enough, but they hate Trump. Trump hooked yall up with the tyranny that you need, why put him in prison now?

I dont want to church this up anymore than I have to, so I'll just say 98.2 percent of you guys are fooking idiots.


Hope you all have a handmade premium spring--get out and enjoy the nice weather.


Exiting Frank's grid in 3, 2, 1...............................................................................................























I blame TW
ZRX1200 Offline
#23 Posted: Fri, Mar 31 2023, 2:32 PM EST
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^ you win cbid today.
JadeRose Offline
#24 Posted: Fri, Mar 31 2023, 3:56 PM EST
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HockeyDad wrote:
I just hope this whole indictment thing doesn’t distract from today’s Transgender Day of Visibility.



I've got a semi
ZRX1200 Offline
#25 Posted: Fri, Mar 31 2023, 4:47 PM EST
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I heard you identified as a semi…..
JadeRose Offline
#26 Posted: Fri, Mar 31 2023, 6:41 PM EST
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ZRX1200 wrote:
I heard you identified as a semi…..



My porn name is Turgid Member
tailgater Offline
#27 Posted: Fri, Mar 31 2023, 7:04 PM EST
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HockeyDad wrote:
I just hope this whole indictment thing doesn’t distract from today’s Transgender Day of Visibility.


Nothing could distract us from that.
Now zip up.
tailgater Offline
#28 Posted: Fri, Mar 31 2023, 7:05 PM EST
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Brewha wrote:
Trump asks for donations.
And protests.
And then more donations.
.



So, BLM all over again?
Whistlebritches Offline
#29 Posted: Fri, Mar 31 2023, 11:20 PM EST
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One party rule.........libtards are creaming their jeans.Anyone who believes Alvin Bragg isn't politically motivated is blind,dumb and of course liberal.Ray Charles could see what the goal is here.
DrafterX Offline
#30 Posted: Sat, Apr 1 2023, 8:59 AM EST
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He's just doing what Biden told him to do... Mellow
Brewha Offline
#31 Posted: Sat, Apr 1 2023, 10:04 AM EST
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Poor Trump.

Crying
Brewha Offline
#32 Posted: Sat, Apr 1 2023, 10:10 AM EST
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tailgater wrote:
So, BLM all over again?


How much can I put you down for?
RayR Offline
#33 Posted: Sat, Apr 1 2023, 10:14 AM EST
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Gene363 wrote:
No complaints about the title, of course not, Biden is their man.


You are correct sir. Still no complaints at all from LEFTY for being called a moron.
They shall not challenge it.
HockeyDad Offline
#34 Posted: Sat, Apr 1 2023, 11:42 AM EST
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Brewha wrote:
How much can I put you down for?


I’ll send you my invoice for the use of my trademark.
Brewha Offline
#35 Posted: Sat, Apr 1 2023, 12:36 PM EST
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HockeyDad wrote:
I’ll send you my invoice for the use of my trademark.

Send it - as long as I owe you, you’ll never be broke….
Brewha Offline
#36 Posted: Sat, Apr 1 2023, 12:45 PM EST
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We should build a summery, or anthology of all the shameless witch hunts perpetrated on poor Donald.

I think the first time was when he was 18 years of age, a politically motivated police officer weaponized the law against all Americans by writing Donald a parking ticket.

I heard he still hasn’t paid that ticket….
8trackdisco Offline
#37 Posted: Sat, Apr 1 2023, 9:42 PM EST
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HockeyDad wrote:
I’m hoping they hold Trump without bail. No reason to go halfway on this.


Thought New York was all about no cash bail.
8trackdisco Offline
#38 Posted: Sat, Apr 1 2023, 9:44 PM EST
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Brewha wrote:
Just to be clear - if he did break the law - should he be tired for it?

Should Trump or Clinton be above the law?


Politicians should be held to a higher, not lower standard. They are Leaders in our country in name only.
8trackdisco Offline
#39 Posted: Sat, Apr 1 2023, 11:26 PM EST
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JGKAMIN wrote:
Except it’s never going to happen. Always waiting for the smoking gun and when it materializes waiting for the process to play out and it never amounts to anything.


There was this one Watergate thingy that put a damper on a Dikc’s day.
8trackdisco Offline
#40 Posted: Sat, Apr 1 2023, 11:28 PM EST
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HockeyDad wrote:
No bail. He’s a flight risk. He has his own 757.


Am concerned he would leave and never be heard from again. Trump could quietly live out his life without saying another word for several seconds.
Gene363 Offline
#41 Posted: Sun, Apr 2 2023, 10:49 AM EST
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Bill Barr Rips Trump Indictment, Calls It A “Disgrace” And “Abuse” Of Legal System

https://trendingpoliticsnews.com/bill-barr-trump-indictment-disgrace-paub/?utm_source=papa&utm_medium=twitter

Quote:
Bill Barr, the former United States attorney general, slammed Manhattan DA Alvin Bragg for leading the indictment of former President Donald Trump. On Thursday, the Manhattan grand jury voted to indict the former president.

Trump is reported to be facing 34 different counts related to business fraud.

On Friday, speaking with the former assistant US attorney of the Southern District of New York, Andrew McCarthy, Barr described the charges as a “political hit job.”

“It’s the archetypal abuse of the prosecutorial function to engage in a political hit job, and it’s a disgrace.”

“And legally, I think … from what I understand, it’s a pathetically weak case,” the former US attorney general added.

The case is “the epitome of the abuse of prosecutorial power to bring a case that would not be brought against anyone else. They are going after the man, not a crime. And the legal theory, frankly, is pathetically weak,” Barr contested.

It is reported the former president will appear in court on Tuesday, April 4th, at 2:15 PM EST. Trump refused a virtual appearance, the Guardian reported.

“Trump’s increasing insistence that he wants to be handcuffed behind his back for a perp walk appears to come from various motivations, including that he wants to project defiance in the face of what he sees as an unfair prosecution and that it would galvanize his base for his 2024 presidential campaign.”
Brewha Offline
#42 Posted: Sun, Apr 2 2023, 11:50 AM EST
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8trackdisco wrote:
Politicians should be held to a higher, not lower standard. They are Leaders in our country in name only.

Interesting that the MAGA crowd as condemned these charges - even though they are unknown charges.

All we have is a rumor of 34 counts of fraud (hfs - 34 counts??), but the tacked is that any accusations is an “abuse of power”. So for MAGA, there seems to be no standard of justice where Trump is concerned.

Give him his day in court just like the rest of us. What’s the bfd?
rfenst Offline
#43 Posted: Sun, Apr 2 2023, 12:07 PM EST
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Brewha wrote:
Interesting that the MAGA crowd as condemned these charges - even though they are unknown charges.

All we have is a rumor of 34 counts of fraud (hfs - 34 counts??), but the tacked is that any accusations is an “abuse of power”. So for MAGA, there seems to be no standard of justice where Trump is concerned.

Give him his day in court just like the rest of us. What’s the bfd?

If Nixon hadn't resigned, he would have been charged criminally after being impeached.
Agnew withdrew due to criminal allegations.
Whistlebritches Offline
#44 Posted: Sun, Apr 2 2023, 12:22 PM EST
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Brewha wrote:


What’s the bfd?


The "Big Guy" and the rest of the Biden Crime Family.Questionable business practices and receiving millions of dollars in unexplainable payments from our enemies under the table.Brew does the Biden thing even cross your mind or are you more in the Manhattan DA's mindset.................anything be it true or not to bring Trump down.After all the past untruthful allegations ,the "Russian Collusion" that libs bought into hook,line and sinker rises to the top of my list.Does the truth even matter to you?It damn well does to me.........if the charges against Trump prove out I'm good with that but since 2016 the left has not given me one reason to believe anything they say.
8trackdisco Offline
#45 Posted: Sun, Apr 2 2023, 12:37 PM EST
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rfenst wrote:
If Nixon hadn't resigned, he would have been charged criminally after being impeached.
Agnew withdrew due to criminal allegations.


Don't know if Nixon or Agnew every had any relationship with a porn star or ever bragged about grabbing women by the puzsszy .

Then again, grabbing women by the puzsszy does play well to his base. Getting arrested for paying puzsszy to shut up is more (pardon the upcoming pun) the kind of red meat his base craves.

All he needs is a rape charge and he ill ensure he becomes Emperor of America with 45% of the popular vote.
8trackdisco Offline
#46 Posted: Sun, Apr 2 2023, 12:41 PM EST
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Whistlebritches wrote:
The "Big Guy" and the rest of the Biden Crime Family.Questionable business practices and receiving millions of dollars in unexplainable payments from our enemies under the table.Brew does the Biden thing even cross your mind or are you more in the Manhattan DA's mindset.................anything be it true or not to bring Trump down.After all the past untruthful allegations ,the "Russian Collusion" that libs bought into hook,line and sinker rises to the top of my list.Does the truth even matter to you?It damn well does to me.........if the charges against Trump prove out I'm good with that but since 2016 the left has not given me one reason to believe anything they say.


The whole Yea-butt, the other side's criminal is worse than my criminal is tired and old.

If you had a 250 pound wife, would the neighbor with the 251 pound wife be the fat one?
rfenst Offline
#47 Posted: Sun, Apr 2 2023, 12:42 PM EST
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Whistlebritches wrote:
The "Big Guy" and the rest of the Biden Crime Family.Questionable business practices and receiving millions of dollars in unexplainable payments from our enemies under the table.Brew does the Biden thing even cross your mind or are you more in the Manhattan DA's mindset.................anything be it true or not to bring Trump down.After all the past untruthful allegations ,the "Russian Collusion" that libs bought into hook,line and sinker rises to the top of my list.Does the truth even matter to you?It damn well does to me.........if the charges against Trump prove out I'm good with that but since 2016 the left has not given me one reason to believe anything they say.

Here is this "liberal's" opinion:

If Trump is guilty, charge him and convict him like everyone else.

If Biden(s) is/are guilty, charge them and convict them like everybody else.

Presuming for the sake of argument both are convicted, both Presidents jail potential should be given deference to the nature of the crime(s) convicted of; their propensity to reoffend, etc., etc., just like everyone else- with due consideration of the fact they are/were President.

If Hunter is guilty, throw him in jail. But, I doubt that will happen soon and his father will probably commute his sentence or pardon him at the endo of his presidency.

The bell will toll on all of them.

There is nothing to rejoice about here. whip
rfenst Offline
#48 Posted: Sun, Apr 2 2023, 12:52 PM EST
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8trackdisco wrote:
Don't know if Nixon or Agnew every had any relationship with a porn star or ever bragged about grabbing women by the puzsszy .

Then again, grabbing women by the puzsszy does play well to his base. Getting arrested for paying puzsszy to shut up is more (pardon the upcoming pun) the kind of red meat his base craves.

All he needs is a rape charge and he ill ensure he becomes Emperor of America with 45% of the popular vote.

Forget about Stormy until the charges are opened. She did not even testify.

My guess is that this will be heavily weighted towards repeated bank, business and tax fraud." Stormy charges would really be predominantly "throw away charges."

Two or three years back, I C&P'd a long article disusing the documents supporting allegations about Trump- solely based on bank records and taxes filed and released.

I'll look for it. Long read, but it is all based on the documents described in the article the NYT acquired and claimed to poses.
Whistlebritches Offline
#49 Posted: Sun, Apr 2 2023, 1:31 PM EST
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8trackdisco wrote:
The whole Yea-butt, the other side's criminal is worse than my criminal is tired and old.

If you had a 250 pound wife, would the neighbor with the 251 pound wife be the fat one?


Not what I said........we have a sitting president who acted as a foreign agent ,tons of evidence to support this allegation and nothing is happening vs a former president who paid a porn star to keep her mouth shut about a sexual encounter.Plus rumor has it that according to what your definition of "IS" is this wasn't even sex.
Brewha Offline
#50 Posted: Sun, Apr 2 2023, 1:57 PM EST
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Whistlebritches wrote:
The "Big Guy" and the rest of the Biden Crime Family.Questionable business practices and receiving millions of dollars in unexplainable payments from our enemies under the table.Brew does the Biden thing even cross your mind or are you more in the Manhattan DA's mindset.................anything be it true or not to bring Trump down.After all the past untruthful allegations ,the "Russian Collusion" that libs bought into hook,line and sinker rises to the top of my list.Does the truth even matter to you?It damn well does to me.........if the charges against Trump prove out I'm good with that but since 2016 the left has not given me one reason to believe anything they say.

The Bidens may be as guilty and nefarious as can be.
Trump may be as innocent as an alter boy.

They both deserve due process, and while we have seen that impeachment at the federal level is more political than anything else, our subject here is about state charges. I hope this is and will be about the laws of the State of New York. And justice should be blind - whomever stands accused.

Yes, the “truth” matters to me. But we are talking about the law - which in an entirely different book.
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