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Jayslow Offline
#1 Posted:
Joined: 03-05-2017
Posts: 10
Hey fellas, just joined up over here!

Just recently got into the cigar game. Picked up a sweet 100 count humidor and am going to start building a collection. Was hoping for some recommendations for relatively new cigar smoker! Any suggestions on some sticks that are a MUST try? I see tons of potential on this site! Happy to be here Herfing

Hope to see you all around - just wanted to introduce myself!

-Jayslow, from Vancouver!
frankj1 Offline
#2 Posted:
Joined: 02-08-2007
Posts: 44,211
buckle up...
deadeyedick Offline
#3 Posted:
Joined: 03-13-2003
Posts: 16,957
Your are going to need a bigger humidor ....... and increase the limit on your credit card.Anxious
Pudding Mittens Offline
#4 Posted:
Joined: 08-15-2016
Posts: 1,291
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CAS, Cigar Acquisition Syndrome! It begins!

Right now you're Stage 1, but eventually you'll be like the rest of us with a severe case! Muhahaha!
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Lancelotlink Offline
#5 Posted:
Joined: 01-07-2017
Posts: 52
Don't bid on anything here, you will wait forever, and then your order will disappear.
elRopo Offline
#6 Posted:
Joined: 02-17-2014
Posts: 905
Ummm, you live in Vancouver B.C. but you wanna buy here? Does not compute.
Jayslow Offline
#7 Posted:
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Posts: 10
elRopo wrote:
Ummm, you live in Vancouver B.C. but you wanna buy here? Does not compute.


If you were to see the price of our cigars, or even tobacco... you'd want to buy elsewhere too! We are taxed ridiculously. Even with the exchange from cdn to usd, it's worth it. I have been ordering all from USA websites, which has saved me some major $. Plus I have family right across the border so shipping isn't an issue! :)
jjanecka Offline
#8 Posted:
Joined: 12-08-2015
Posts: 4,334
He's right, the socialists have screwed up Canada. They tax those poor people to death.
RobertHively Offline
#9 Posted:
Joined: 01-14-2015
Posts: 1,761
Welcome? No, welcome! :)
elRopo Offline
#10 Posted:
Joined: 02-17-2014
Posts: 905
Well, you won't find any CCs on this site which is what I'd be smoking if I lived in Canada. My youngest son usually picks up a box or two at the airport duty free shops for me. Since he can bring them in legally now its a no brainer. My preference is RyJ coronitas en cedros and Monte #4.
KingoftheCove Offline
#11 Posted:
Joined: 10-08-2011
Posts: 7,600
Jayslow................Jay is low?

Dude, you haven't even started yet...............and you're mooching?..
Jayslow Offline
#12 Posted:
Joined: 03-05-2017
Posts: 10
KingoftheCove wrote:
Jayslow................Jay is low?

Dude, you haven't even started yet...............and you're mooching?..


Mooching? uhhh.... Mooching for recommendations? sure. yup. Tongue


Thanks for the suggestion elRopo. I'll check out a single or two at my local shop!
chazbo Offline
#13 Posted:
Joined: 01-21-2007
Posts: 8,159
Welcome Jay, just wondering is cigarbid ships to Canada?
Arturo Fuentes
Oliva
Pardon
My Father
Tatuaje
La Flor Dominicana
bgz Offline
#14 Posted:
Joined: 07-29-2014
Posts: 13,023
100 count ?!?!

Does not compute.
Jayslow Offline
#15 Posted:
Joined: 03-05-2017
Posts: 10
chazbo wrote:
Welcome Jay, just wondering is cigarbid ships to Canada?


Didn't see the option. But I have access to an address in the United States ~ 20-25 minute drive from my house - so it's no biggie. Go down for diesel often enough anyways :D
Thanks for the suggestions too. I've had an Oliva Serie V, and My Father no.1. Both were quite good!

@BGZ, It'll help keep me under control. Until i find a deal on a big boy cupboard! d'oh!
bgz Offline
#16 Posted:
Joined: 07-29-2014
Posts: 13,023
Just go buy a good cooler, cheaper, more money for cigars.
elRopo Offline
#17 Posted:
Joined: 02-17-2014
Posts: 905
jjanecka wrote:
He's right, the socialists have screwed up Canada. They tax those poor people to death.

Yeah but they get "free stuff" and aren't allowed to buy guns so, more money for cigars.Angel
Jayslow Offline
#18 Posted:
Joined: 03-05-2017
Posts: 10
elRopo wrote:
aren't allowed to buy guns


I halfway wish this was true (joking!). I've unfortunately caught that bug as well. That my friends is an expensive hobby in itself!Boo hoo!

jjanecka Offline
#19 Posted:
Joined: 12-08-2015
Posts: 4,334
You can't buy firearms in Canada? How do they expect you to kill a charging bear?
Jayslow Offline
#20 Posted:
Joined: 03-05-2017
Posts: 10
jjanecka wrote:
You can't buy firearms in Canada? How do they expect you to kill a charging bear?


Exactly!

Nah, being a dual citizen I love my guns lol. Just some lames rules to keep us under wraps. Licensing system, can't bring handguns/AR-15s anywhere except the gun range.. and can't open/conceal carry anywhere.

*Sigh*.

Better than nothing.. Atleast if i shoot myself in the foot it's covered by our "free" medical. lol
jjanecka Offline
#21 Posted:
Joined: 12-08-2015
Posts: 4,334
If you can't buy a rifle at your local sporting goods store it ain't the type of country I would want to live in.
elRopo Offline
#22 Posted:
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Posts: 905
It ain't Texas
Pudding Mittens Offline
#23 Posted:
Joined: 08-15-2016
Posts: 1,291
bgz wrote:
100 count ?!?!

Does not compute.

I'm hoping he meant to type "100 quarts", at a minimum, as a modest starter container, with many more to follow later!
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LawOfMD Offline
#24 Posted:
Joined: 02-10-2017
Posts: 86
Jay, in your search for good stogies, I recommend this guy's review's:

https://kohnhed.com/

He pretty much only critiques sticks that friends of his send him, doesn't receive and evaluate free sticks from cigar companies nor does he receive any other form of compensation from them that I can tell. He is as much of a FILTER as he is a PUMP of product and isn't afraid to call Cigar Aficionado/Advisor out on their (often) BS reviews. He calls it as he sees it. Only issue is sometimes friends send him some pretty obscure stuff thats very hard if not impossible to find but a lot of what he reviews can be had right here on CI/Cbid.

He's also a hoot to read - was a bass guitar player for The Police and some other bands and has some great stories that he intermixes with his very colorful reviews.

Naturally everyone has their own tastes and you may end up generally disagreeing with his opinions but it gives you a good place to start IMO.

Also I follow CigarObsession on youtube and halfwheel.com, two other review sites that seem to have set up a good firewall between them and cigar producer influence/money.

Last, as you have suspected, there's a sh.tload of talent and experience here on this site and they can make great, informed recommendations (once you find and mute out the prolific [but minority] very fake Platinum Members Squad (PMS, perfect acronym). Their noble mission is to scare away as much bidding competition as possible w/ sophomoric level hazing and circle jerking. (I'm looking at you TonySpaz [If Bif from BTTF and Brick from Anchorman had a gay love child, that child would be TonySpaz]). Many of these few also suffer from Chronic Stockholm Syndrome. Criticize any aspect of Cbid (present debacle included) and you do so at your own peril. Aside from TonySpaz (I singled him out specifically because he's a PMS leader on very high doses of Midol, is particularly noisome AND is a Hillary Clinton Surrogate) but the rest of the PMS will reveal themselves to you soon enough...probably in response to this post, at my expense I'm sure (hopefully they don't take away my birthday) making it even easier for you to identify. My gift to you, fellow noob.

Enjoy the journey and welcome aboard!
Pudding Mittens Offline
#25 Posted:
Joined: 08-15-2016
Posts: 1,291
Jayslow wrote:
Licensing system, can't bring handguns/AR-15s anywhere except the gun range.. and can't open/conceal carry anywhere.

Except if you're a criminal. They ignore all those restrictions, and remain fully-armed. Always have been, always will be.

Those restrictive laws do serve a purpose, though! They make sure all the criminals' victims are defenseless and can't resist, which makes the criminals' jobs much safer and easier!
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Jayslow Offline
#26 Posted:
Joined: 03-05-2017
Posts: 10
Pudding Mittens wrote:
Except if you're a criminal. They ignore all those restrictions.


Ohh man you don't even want to get me started on how Bass Ackwards our restrictions are...

LawOfMD wrote:
Jay, in your search for good stogies, I recommend this guy's review's:


Mah man! Thanks loads for the awesome post. I'll check out those reviews for sure. + thanks for the rundown on the PMS squad. Excited to see these bad boys come out of hiding Applause

elRopo Offline
#27 Posted:
Joined: 02-17-2014
Posts: 905
LawOfMD wrote:
Jay, in your search for good stogies, I recommend this guy's review's:

https://kohnhed.com/

He pretty much only critiques sticks that friends of his send him, doesn't receive and evaluate free sticks from cigar companies nor does he receive any other form of compensation from them that I can tell. He is as much of a FILTER as he is a PUMP of product and isn't afraid to call Cigar Aficionado/Advisor out on their (often) BS reviews. He calls it as he sees it. Only issue is sometimes friends send him some pretty obscure stuff thats very hard if not impossible to find but a lot of what he reviews can be had right here on CI/Cbid.

He's also a hoot to read - was a bass guitar player for The Police and some other bands and has some great stories that he intermixes with his very colorful reviews.

Naturally everyone has their own tastes and you may end up generally disagreeing with his opinions but it gives you a good place to start IMO.

Also I follow CigarObsession on youtube and halfwheel.com, two other review sites that seem to have set up a good firewall between them and cigar producer influence/money.

Last, as you have suspected, there's a sh.tload of talent and experience here on this site and they can make great, informed recommendations (once you find and mute out the prolific [but minority] very fake Platinum Members Squad (PMS, perfect acronym). Their noble mission is to scare away as much bidding competition as possible w/ sophomoric level hazing and circle jerking. (I'm looking at you TonySpaz [If Bif from BTTF and Brick from Anchorman had a gay love child, that child would be TonySpaz]). Many of these few also suffer from Chronic Stockholm Syndrome. Criticize any aspect of Cbid (present debacle included) and you do so at your own peril. Aside from TonySpaz (I singled him out specifically because he's a PMS leader on very high doses of Midol, is particularly noisome AND is a Hillary Clinton Surrogate) but the rest of the PMS will reveal themselves to you soon enough...probably in response to this post, at my expense I'm sure (hopefully they don't take away my birthday) making it even easier for you to identify. My gift to you, fellow noob.

Enjoy the journey and welcome aboard!


Your birthday is hereby revoked .... Permanently.whip
edin508 Offline
#28 Posted:
Joined: 06-19-2012
Posts: 4,647
Buy a big cooler, then Google coolidor.

You're welcome.
LawOfMD Offline
#29 Posted:
Joined: 02-10-2017
Posts: 86
edin508 wrote:
Buy a big cooler, then Google coolidor.

You're welcome.
^^This.

Just ordered a 150 qt one from Walmarts.com. (can you believe i'm an hour away from a wallyworld? sucks) Free shipping. $64. If ever my 2/10 order gets here, it'll be full by that evening.
99cobra2881 Offline
#30 Posted:
Joined: 11-19-2013
Posts: 2,472
I collect things I want to keep, I buy cigars to burn.






I keep telling myself that..... maybe one day I'll believe it. Welcome and stuff ya frostback!!!!

Do you like camping?

Buy a cooler. It only gets worse from here. Herfing

I honestly wouldn't bid until this mess gets sorted out. Watch auctions for cigars you like, take note of what they end at and what they retail for on CI. Bid once this crap gets sorted out.
Thunder.Gerbil Offline
#31 Posted:
Joined: 11-02-2006
Posts: 121,359
Jayslow wrote:
Hey fellas, just joined up over here!

Just recently got into the cigar game. Picked up a sweet 100 count humidor and am going to start building a collection. Was hoping for some recommendations for relatively new cigar smoker! Any suggestions on some sticks that are a MUST try? I see tons of potential on this site! Happy to be here Herfing

Hope to see you all around - just wanted to introduce myself!

-Jayslow, from Vancouver!



PM DrMaddVibe. He's a wealth of knowledge on that. Tell him exactly what you are after, that you want some "must try sticks".
Thunder.Gerbil Offline
#32 Posted:
Joined: 11-02-2006
Posts: 121,359
LawOfMD wrote:
Jay, in your search for good stogies, I recommend this guy's review's:

https://kohnhed.com/

He pretty much only critiques sticks that friends of his send him, doesn't receive and evaluate free sticks from cigar companies nor does he receive any other form of compensation from them that I can tell. He is as much of a FILTER as he is a PUMP of product and isn't afraid to call Cigar Aficionado/Advisor out on their (often) BS reviews. He calls it as he sees it. Only issue is sometimes friends send him some pretty obscure stuff thats very hard if not impossible to find but a lot of what he reviews can be had right here on CI/Cbid.

He's also a hoot to read - was a bass guitar player for The Police and some other bands and has some great stories that he intermixes with his very colorful reviews.


Phil is a character, to say the least, but I'm not so sure that is totally correct. He does get stuff from companies AFAIK, or at least he used to but I'll admit, I haven't talked to him in a number of years.

BTW, he was in Curved Air with Stewart Copeland (the future drummer for The Police). I don't remember him ever claiming to be a member of The Police though. Maybe as a session player, but I don't recall.
Jayslow Offline
#33 Posted:
Joined: 03-05-2017
Posts: 10
Thunder.Gerbil wrote:
PM DrMaddVibe. He's a wealth of knowledge on that. Tell him exactly what you are after, that you want some "must try sticks".


Lol!! Judging by ya boys "fan-page" and sifting through the recent comments... I think i'll keep to myself. Don't wanna get roasted day one now! Not talking

Thunder.Gerbil Offline
#34 Posted:
Joined: 11-02-2006
Posts: 121,359
Jayslow wrote:
Lol!! Judging by ya boys "fan-page" and sifting through the recent comments... I think i'll keep to myself. Don't wanna get roasted day one now! Not talking




What are you, chicken?


"must try" cigar lists are interesting. Most of the time, people just seem to list their favorites. A must try to them, but in reality? /shrug

Buy samplers, buy 5'ers, trade, go to your B&M and buy singles. Don't go deep on anything yet, because tastes change. Figure out what you like so far and then come back with that info and find people with similar tastes. Blindly asking will get you a list as long as the product list here.
Pudding Mittens Offline
#35 Posted:
Joined: 08-15-2016
Posts: 1,291
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Obsidian White Noise is cheap (especially here on cbid!) and quite good, especially if you let them age for a long time.
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qmech Offline
#36 Posted:
Joined: 06-17-2016
Posts: 970
Sorry if I missed this..Tell us the cigars you currently enjoy? Do you prefer mild , medium or full bodied smokes(from a scale of 1 to 10 respectively)? What is your price range?
Best
Q
LawOfMD Offline
#37 Posted:
Joined: 02-10-2017
Posts: 86
Thunder.Gerbil wrote:
Phil is a character, to say the least, but I'm not so sure that is totally correct. He does get stuff from companies AFAIK, or at least he used to but I'll admit, I haven't talked to him in a number of years.

BTW, he was in Curved Air with Stewart Copeland (the future drummer for The Police). I don't remember him ever claiming to be a member of The Police though. Maybe as a session player, but I don't recall.
Just my noobness shining through. I've only recently started following him, so I wrote on first impressions here. Very cool that you know the guy. His front page calls out "The Police" as a search term to use if you want to pull up rock and roll stories, but you are probably right, maybe he just ran with Copeland. As far as sticks he evaluates, I recall reading a particular review where he railed on a mainstream reviewer because they talked up a stick which he critiqued as total crap and he couldnt wrap his head around why he said it was so good, come to find out he got the stick from a sales rep of the company explaining to him the disparity. Maybe he used to take sticks from reps and doesn't now on principle? He has lots of review comments from people complaining about CA review being tainted and praising him for not selling out to cigar reps too. Pretty convincing but who knows. Man's gotta eat.
Thunder.Gerbil Offline
#38 Posted:
Joined: 11-02-2006
Posts: 121,359
LawOfMD wrote:
Just my noobness shining through. I've only recently started following him, so I wrote on first impressions here. Very cool that you know the guy. His front page calls out "The Police" as a search term to use if you want to pull up rock and roll stories, but you are probably right, maybe he just ran with Copeland. As far as sticks he evaluates, I recall reading a particular review where he railed on a mainstream reviewer because they talked up a stick which he critiqued as total crap and he couldnt wrap his head around why he said it was so good, come to find out he got the stick from a sales rep of the company explaining to him the disparity. Maybe he used to take sticks from reps and doesn't now on principle? He has lots of review comments from people complaining about CA review being tainted and praising him for not selling out to cigar reps too. Pretty convincing but who knows. Man's gotta eat.


Seems like most guys in the rock and roll business have histories that are multiple-choice, so who knows. I've never met him face to face, but communicated with him a bit in the past, back when he started his reviews. They were really off the wall back then, he's toned them down a bit since. That was all back before all his medical stuff hit and was a very rough time for him, he was very agitated. Phil is a pretty cynical guy to begin with, that just amplified things.

I'm sure most of his cigars do come gifted to him. From what I recall, the pairing up with a manufacturer was something many years ago, it was one or two small time producers or shops (or both) that got in touch with him after finding his original review to be favorable. I believe there was some sort of arrangement, but I don't know if that still exists or if they even exist anymore.
opelmanta1900 Offline
#39 Posted:
Joined: 01-10-2012
Posts: 13,954
Jayslow wrote:
If you were to see the price of our cigars, or even tobacco... you'd want to buy elsewhere too! We are taxed ridiculously. Even with the exchange from cdn to usd, it's worth it. I have been ordering all from USA websites, which has saved me some major $. Plus I have family right across the border so shipping isn't an issue! :)

There's nothing quite like bragging about tax evasion on an online cigar forum!
tamapatom Offline
#40 Posted:
Joined: 03-19-2015
Posts: 7,381
opelmanta1900 wrote:
There's nothing quite like bragging about tax evasion on an online cigar forum!

He just ruined his budding political career. Poor Jail yo!
LawOfMD Offline
#41 Posted:
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Posts: 86
Thunder.Gerbil wrote:
Seems like most guys in the rock and roll business have histories that are multiple-choice, so who knows. I've never met him face to face, but communicated with him a bit in the past, back when he started his reviews. They were really off the wall back then, he's toned them down a bit since. That was all back before all his medical stuff hit and was a very rough time for him, he was very agitated. Phil is a pretty cynical guy to begin with, that just amplified things.

I'm sure most of his cigars do come gifted to him. From what I recall, the pairing up with a manufacturer was something many years ago, it was one or two small time producers or shops (or both) that got in touch with him after finding his original review to be favorable. I believe there was some sort of arrangement, but I don't know if that still exists or if they even exist anymore.


heh. you'll enjoy this: Here's a snapshot of his latest review. Love this guy's honesty

"Cornelius & Anthony is a solid cigar company. It is a mystery to me how they let this new revised blend fly off the rails. Is this why there are no reviews of this cigar? Is everyone afraid of pissing off C&A? I’m not. But of course, I will burn another bridge by being truthful.

Manufacturers are very sensitive about what is written about them. The slightest critical comments doom the writer to be taken off their reviewer’s list. So be it. I am beholden to my readers, not the manufacturer.


https://kohnhed.com/2017/03/06/cornelius-anthony-meridian-2016-cigar-reviews-by-the-katman/

I know of no other cigar reviewer that appears more loyal to his readers than this.
Jayslow Offline
#42 Posted:
Joined: 03-05-2017
Posts: 10
opelmanta1900 wrote:
There's nothing quite like bragging about tax evasion on an online cigar forum!


Hey, If Canadian customs doesn't bother to charge me tax/duty while coming through, i'm not going to complain! Beer

@LawOfMD,
I'm starting to like this guy!! Read a handful of reviews last night and this afternoon and he's really quite detailed in his explanations on taste etc. Totally helpful!
bgz Offline
#43 Posted:
Joined: 07-29-2014
Posts: 13,023
LawOfMD wrote:
heh. you'll enjoy this: Here's a snapshot of his latest review. Love this guy's honesty

"Cornelius & Anthony is a solid cigar company. It is a mystery to me how they let this new revised blend fly off the rails. Is this why there are no reviews of this cigar? Is everyone afraid of pissing off C&A? I’m not. But of course, I will burn another bridge by being truthful.

Manufacturers are very sensitive about what is written about them. The slightest critical comments doom the writer to be taken off their reviewer’s list. So be it. I am beholden to my readers, not the manufacturer.


https://kohnhed.com/2017/03/06/cornelius-anthony-meridian-2016-cigar-reviews-by-the-katman/

I know of no other cigar reviewer that appears more loyal to his readers than this.



Had to look at this just to see... cause I'm curious like that.

I have to call bs on this guy and do not find him credible.

He rated an LFD Andalusian Bull sub-par saying that it might just be that he's not a fan of DR tobacco.

Then he goes and rates all the latest and greatest AVOs at 95 (DR tobacco if I remember right), but the Davidoffs get little love in the 70s. Padrons, forget about it, he's not giving up a good review for a $20+ MSRP cigar... period.


And in between his cigar reviews, he hammers out weed reviews left and right (I'm guessing this guy is stoned a lot).

Anyway, the only pattern I can see is that if he can get the smokes cheap on cbid, he gives it a great review. If it costs him as much as a gram of weed, then he kicks the s#17 out of it into the dirt.

So, I would say if you want to get fair reviews, you would have to use a sliding scale. For cheap yard gars you can get cheap on cbid, your sliding scale rating for a good cigar would be between 90 and 95 where anything less is trash.

If it's a premium smoke with a $10 to $15, then your scale is 85 to 92.

If it's an ultra-premium, you would use the scale 75 to 85.



Edit:

Ok, read a few more, I was wrong, he seems to be a boutique fan.
LawOfMD Offline
#44 Posted:
Joined: 02-10-2017
Posts: 86
Jayslow wrote:
Hey, If Canadian customs doesn't bother to charge me tax/duty while coming through, i'm not going to complain! Beer

@LawOfMD,
I'm starting to like this guy!! Read a handful of reviews last night and this afternoon and he's really quite detailed in his explanations on taste etc. Totally helpful!
:thumbs up: I agree. I spent the better part of last night trying to source some 5-ers of his top 25. Tough to do as most are sold out, short run smokes.
Kerbey Offline
#45 Posted:
Joined: 06-10-2016
Posts: 13
LawOfMD wrote:
:thumbs up: I agree. I spent the better part of last night trying to source some 5-ers of his top 25. Tough to do as most are sold out, short run smokes.





Don't post much. Better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak and to remove all doubt. Heh.

I'm a fan of the Katman's reviews as well. He can be funny at times and tells it like it is. He has a long list of cigars in the $5-8 range and a large list of boutiques that he has enjoyed. Could be a good place to start.

See links below.

$5.00-8.00 list:

https://kohnhed.com/2014/03/05/the-katmans-list-of-174-great-cigars-in-the-5-00-8-00-range-cigar-reviews-by-the-katman/


Boutique list:

https://kohnhed.com/2014/03/07/the-katmans-best-226-boutique-brandsblends-cigar-reviews-by-the-katman/

The rock&roll stories are a bonus.
delta1 Offline
#46 Posted:
Joined: 11-23-2011
Posts: 28,754
Welcome Jayslow, you've set a new record for expansiveness from an intro post and thread. You started with a fairly common request for recommendations for must try cigars (never sticks) and the recurring theme about shortage of space for your burgeoning cache (picking up 99cobra's point about "collection" not being an apt term for stuff you will consume).

Somehow we veered into international monetary exchange rates, guns, buying cigars in Canada, killing bears, nature of criminals, cigar magazines that have a gay orientation, authenticity of published cigar reviews, pandering in the cigar industry, a rave about a cigar named (oxymoronically) after Trump followers, criminal tax evasion, elbow rubbing with an obscure rock star guitarist, and trustworthiness of cigar reviews by obscure rock stars...


Beer Herfing
RobertHively Offline
#47 Posted:
Joined: 01-14-2015
Posts: 1,761
delta1 wrote:
Welcome Jayslow, you've set a new record for expansiveness from an intro post and thread. You started with a fairly common request for recommendations for must try cigars (never sticks) and the recurring theme about shortage of space for your burgeoning cache (picking up 99cobra's point about "collection" not being an apt term for stuff you will consume).

Somehow we veered into international monetary exchange rates, guns, buying cigars in Canada, killing bears, nature of criminals, cigar magazines that have a gay orientation, authenticity of published cigar reviews, pandering in the cigar industry, a rave about a cigar named (oxymoronically) after Trump followers, criminal tax evasion, elbow rubbing with an obscure rock star guitarist, and trustworthiness of cigar reviews by obscure rock stars...


Beer Herfing


LOL!
Stinkdyr Offline
#48 Posted:
Joined: 06-16-2009
Posts: 9,948
jjanecka wrote:
He's right, the socialists have screwed up Canada. They tax those poor people to death.



Feels a bit like home......hmmm.

Think
Jayslow Offline
#49 Posted:
Joined: 03-05-2017
Posts: 10
delta1 wrote:


Somehow we veered into international monetary exchange rates, guns, buying cigars in Canada, killing bears, nature of criminals, cigar magazines that have a gay orientation, authenticity of published cigar reviews, pandering in the cigar industry, a rave about a cigar named (oxymoronically) after Trump followers, criminal tax evasion, elbow rubbing with an obscure rock star guitarist, and trustworthiness of cigar reviews by obscure rock stars...




Well... When you put it like thaaaat. Nothing like making it sound so dramatic Speak to the hand
Salmoneye Offline
#50 Posted:
Joined: 01-18-2011
Posts: 163
jjanecka wrote:
He's right, the socialists have screwed up Canada. They tax those poor people to death.


Yes...

But they get free colonoscopys...

So there's that...




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