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Berkeley Black Bloc anarchists.
Speyside Offline
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I just read an interesting article. Black Bloc is a world wide leftist anachist tactic that resorts to violence to push an anagenda. This seems to be the what happened in Berkeley.

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation-now/2017/02/02/what-black-bloc/97393870/.
DrafterX Offline
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Funded by the Clinton Foundation..?? Huh
elRopo Offline
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DrafterX wrote:
Funded by the Clinton Foundation..?? Huh

Sounds like Charlie (Manson) may have been right, just a bit too early.
tonygraz Offline
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Sounds like something Twitler would do.
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Interesting. Groups using the Black Bloc banner and tactics began in Germany, expanded in Europe, and spread to the U.S. in the 90's, protesting the World Trade Organization. Accused of high-jacking the Occupy Movement, they used anarchist tactics of property destruction, and sometimes physical assault, hiding behind masks, hoods and black clothing. Leaders of Occupy denounced them and said they were not a welcome part of the movement.

Participants are mostly 18-30 year old white males who seem to be politically motivated but loosely and horizontally organized. Some suggest they are right wing at heart, since they insinuate themselves into peaceful non-violent protests of various kinds by the left, do some damage that deflects all the attention away from the message of the non-violent protesters and garner the attention of the media and the anger of the people at large.
DrafterX Offline
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Those Basdards..!! Mad
elRopo Offline
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delta1 wrote:
Interesting. Groups using the Black Bloc banner and tactics began in Germany, expanded in Europe, and spread to the U.S. in the 90's, protesting the World Trade Organization. Accused of high-jacking the Occupy Movement, they used anarchist tactics of property destruction, and sometimes physical assault, hiding behind masks, hoods and black clothing. Leaders of Occupy denounced them and said they were not a welcome part of the movement.

Participants are mostly 18-30 year old white males who seem to be politically motivated but loosely and horizontally organized. Some suggest they are right wing at heart, since they insinuate themselves into peaceful non-violent protests of various kinds by the left, do some damage that deflects all the attention away from the message of the non-violent protesters and garner the attention of the media and the anger of the people at large.

Definitely a possibility, draw support away from the protesters as the cops stand by and watch.
qmech Offline
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Let's not forget the Orwellian New Speak so popular these days...
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qmech Offline
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Newspeak.
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Speyside Offline
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Q, you just lost me. How do you see newspeak in this?
elRopo Offline
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I think MLK had the right approach. In this country anyway, you can catch more flies with sugar.
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When the "right " is in power the conspiracy theories of the left are in full bloom ..When the "left " comes into power the right wing conspiracies are present.... The circle of life!!
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qmech Offline
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Speyside I am adding Newspeak as another method of obtaining political goals and power; Not directly related but keep in mind the speaker the protests surround is noted for his antics against such politically correct or controlled thought and the methods used to obtain such control.
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I agree generally that anarchists tend to use whatever tactics that they think serve their ends and agree that black bloc act accordingly.... Placing blame on the right ( I assumed the nonanarchist right) smacks of conspiracy which inspired the comment after Newspeak..
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elRopo Offline
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Appeal to the "white guilt" as opposed to "white anger" except that after eight years of O'bumma we're pretty much over the guilt trip so this is what we get. It would seem that they almost have to know they're stepping on there own cranks every time they protest.

The ones calling for a military takeover had better pray that doesn't happen, armed forces certainly won't be on their side.
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What I am tired of is the policy of no arrests for criminal actions. Destroying property, assaulting police officers, blocking highways are all criminal offenses. Although there are some arrests for these acts, the criminals are given far to much leeway.
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*Agreed
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tonygraz Offline
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Don't worry Spey, Law and Order will be coming soon. Be careful what you ask for.
Speyside Offline
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Happy Sunday Tony. I follow what you are saying, and I certainly don't want to live in a police state, but defiantly would like people to be held accountable for their actions.
tailgater Offline
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Speyside wrote:
I just read an interesting article. Black Bloc is a world wide leftist anachist tactic that resorts to violence to push an anagenda. This seems to be the what happened in Berkeley.

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation-now/2017/02/02/what-black-bloc/97393870/.


Odd that the cops didn't even try to arrest any of them.


tonygraz Offline
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I heard they arrested one.
Speyside Offline
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TG, you forgot this.Sarcasm
Abrignac Offline
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Speyside wrote:
What I am tired of is the policy of no arrests for criminal actions. Destroying property, assaulting police officers, blocking highways are all criminal offenses. Although there are some arrests for these acts, the criminals are given far to much leeway.


Then you would be happy to know that when they protested in Baton Rouge regarding the death of Alton Sterling about 150+ were arrested. They filed a class action saying their rights were violated when the were arrested for blocking traffic. The idiot mayor and parish council settled with them.
elRopo Offline
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Well, did they at least beat the crap out of a few of them?
Abrignac Offline
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elRopo wrote:
Well, did they at least beat the crap out of a few of them?



Nope.
Speyside Offline
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So you would have preferred that none were arrested? What solution would you like to see?
elRopo Offline
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Sad times.
Covfireman Offline
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Speyside wrote:
Happy Sunday Tony. I follow what you are saying, and I certainly don't want to live in a police state, but defiantly would like people to be held accountable for their actions.



Now we have the po,ice state but it's oppressing the freedom of the ones it's supposed to protect and not stopping the ones it's supposed to. How many times AFTER an attack have we saw ' the FBI had assailant A under investigation ' or insert which ever alphabet agency you want in there .


With the technology available there's no excuse for not arresting every looters at these protests. Any looters who was recorded and is a convict could be matched with facial recognition software that even local governments can access. If want to be realistic why not run it against the NSA's mater list .


We can send The SSG after all the protesters and have them gangstalked.
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Where is Mr. Jones when we need his gangstalking expertise....
Abrignac Offline
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Covfireman wrote:
Now we have the po,ice state but it's oppressing the freedom of the ones it's supposed to protect and not stopping the ones it's supposed to. How many times AFTER an attack have we saw ' the FBI had assailant A under investigation ' or insert which ever alphabet agency you want in there .


With the technology available there's no excuse for not arresting every looters at these protests. Any looters who was recorded and is a convict could be matched with facial recognition software that even local governments can access. If want to be realistic why not run it against the NSA's mater list .


We can send The SSG after all the protesters and have them gangstalked.



Dude, I really would love to have a hit off the bong you're smoking.

Police state??? Do you even know what a police state is??? Obviously, not.

(Disclaimer: I'm a retired LEO/reserve LEO)

As far as facial recognition is concerned, you obviously have no idea about that technology's capability, or its limitations. It's pretty dammed hard to create an accurate profile from a masked face. One can create a profile of the parts exposed, but apparently you missed the part of having most of their faces concealed.

Suppose they were able to create a facial profile. What are they going to compare it to? If there is no face in a database to match it to, then you have nothing. I guess if we lived in a real police state we would be required to update the NSA photo database every time we forget to shave or grow a pimple.

Oh, perhaps you should spell check your posts. It least your asinine post won't look illiterate.

I would be nicer, but Frank was wondering if I were ok. It's important that I prove I'm not an imposter of I. Know what I mean?
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