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tailgater Offline
#1 Posted: Mon, Jan 16 2017, 1:31 PM EST
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about 2 dozen Democrat members of Congress will be boycotting the inauguration.

That's 24 or so elected officials who are officially and publicly stating that they refuse to work with the Republican President.
No hint of compromise.
No pretense of listening to the other side.
Just blatant partisan BS.

And they wonder how Trump got elected to begin with.
delta1 Offline
#2 Posted: Mon, Jan 16 2017, 1:54 PM EST
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Sadly, playing by the same playbook that was used before the uppity (mild invective used by Limbaugh and his followers) Obama's inauguration...at some point, we have to realize that extreme partisanship will tear us totally apart. We may be there. No signs of compromise. Even in this forum/microcosm, we all seem to be sharpening our spears with little effort made to find middle ground. We're all waiting for the other side to give an inch, then take a mile...making it all the more difficult for anyone to give another inch.

We rail against transgressions on the part of the opposition, turning a blind eye/or parsing the same/similar behavior from our side. We are headed for a destructive end...winner takes all amid a smoking rubble...

My vision of the end game: "District 9"-like, where the wealthy live in fortified gated communities protected by an over-powering military/police force oppressing the poor/alien masses. The one percent are totally entrenched...the rest of us are scrambling for crumbs and a little dignity...
tailgater Offline
#3 Posted: Mon, Jan 16 2017, 2:36 PM EST
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Same playbook?
Who in Congress boycotted Obama's inauguration?

I accept the sad reality that IS American politics in year 2017. But voting against a bill or arguing an opposing viewpoint is quite different from boycotting the incoming Presidential inauguration.
If one or two did it quietly we wouldn't know and wouldn't care. But these azzwipes are flaunting it.

But they've now set the bar. And it's pretty low. I just don't want to hear their crying when they become not only incompetent, but now also ineffective. And that's why the voters should remember this moment. It's when their representatives put personal feelings ahead of doing their job effectively.
delta1 Offline
#4 Posted: Mon, Jan 16 2017, 3:14 PM EST
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yea...bar in national politics is sinking ever lower...

...but we are in uncharted territory. Has there ever been a candidate proclaimed to be unfit to be President by leading members of his own party, and not endorsed by many members of his own party, even AFTER he was nominated? Nominee says all kinds of conflicting, embarrassing and false stuff, won't release his tax records, refuses to divest or create a blind trust for his empire, views world events from how they impact his business (Brexit and his golf course in Scotland), admits to being a sexual pervert...openly praises and courts Putin, the leader of the nation that members of his own party says is the greatest threat to our security... tweets incessantly, showing himself to be uninformed, anti-intellectual, self-absorbed bully...

Then he unexpectedly wins the election...poof he is not unfit...we were supporting him all along...can't make this up. The GOP would be having a field day if Trump was a Democrat and asking why the Dems who denounced him pre-election are attending the inauguration and supporting him now.

Besides, the inauguration is merely pomp and window dressing, a glorified event that harkens to royalty, having nothing to do with the actual process of doing the nation's business. A cheer-leading spectacle that I don't remember anybody talking about before...

Not sure if anyone in Congress skipped Obama's inauguration, but there were plenty of reports about Cantor (a warning for Dems who plan to play his game?) and McConnell organizing meetings with key members of Congress prior to the inauguration with the specific intent to oppose anything on Obama's agenda. Plenty of nooses(neese?) found hanging in public view, posters of Obama with monkey ears and lips, posters of Obama in crosshairs, effigies hung...pretty sure that no members of Congress were responsible for those though...

Low mark: Rep. Joe Wilson yelling out "You Lie" interrupting an Obama address to Congress with a national audience watching...even some GOP were aghast...


P.S. Let's make an effort to find something we can agree about: America is great and there is no other country in which I wish to become a citizen! Agree?
yoandy18 Offline
#5 Posted: Mon, Jan 16 2017, 4:34 PM EST
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He did lie, and it was unprecedented to have a POTUS say anything directly to SCOTUS in attendance (which is rare in and of itself).

I think we need a beer summit.
JadeRose Offline
#6 Posted: Mon, Jan 16 2017, 4:48 PM EST
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I'm not going either
DrafterX Offline
#7 Posted: Mon, Jan 16 2017, 5:03 PM EST
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and he lied many times after that too... Mellow
tailgater Offline
#8 Posted: Mon, Jan 16 2017, 5:55 PM EST
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delta1 wrote:
yea...bar in national politics is sinking ever lower...

...but we are in uncharted territory. Has there ever been a candidate proclaimed to be unfit to be President by leading members of his own party, and not endorsed by many members of his own party, even AFTER he was nominated? Nominee says all kinds of conflicting, embarrassing and false stuff, won't release his tax records, refuses to divest or create a blind trust for his empire, views world events from how they impact his business (Brexit and his golf course in Scotland), admits to being a sexual pervert...openly praises and courts Putin, the leader of the nation that members of his own party says is the greatest threat to our security... tweets incessantly, showing himself to be uninformed, anti-intellectual, self-absorbed bully...

Then he unexpectedly wins the election...poof he is not unfit...we were supporting him all along...can't make this up. The GOP would be having a field day if Trump was a Democrat and asking why the Dems who denounced him pre-election are attending the inauguration and supporting him now.

Besides, the inauguration is merely pomp and window dressing, a glorified event that harkens to royalty, having nothing to do with the actual process of doing the nation's business. A cheer-leading spectacle that I don't remember anybody talking about before...

Not sure if anyone in Congress skipped Obama's inauguration, but there were plenty of reports about Cantor (a warning for Dems who plan to play his game?) and McConnell organizing meetings with key members of Congress prior to the inauguration with the specific intent to oppose anything on Obama's agenda. Plenty of nooses(neese?) found hanging in public view, posters of Obama with monkey ears and lips, posters of Obama in crosshairs, effigies hung...pretty sure that no members of Congress were responsible for those though...

Low mark: Rep. Joe Wilson yelling out "You Lie" interrupting an Obama address to Congress with a national audience watching...even some GOP were aghast...


P.S. Let's make an effort to find something we can agree about: America is great and there is no other country in which I wish to become a citizen! Agree?


First, I'm sure we agree on most things.

Second, nice 5 paragraphs of deflection.

This is NOT the same playbook. Political banter and posturing is a rule of engagement. Boycotting an inauguration is not.
The message is clear: we won't work with you, period. No discussion. No debate. Not even pretend.
This is "unpresidented" (Ha!) and you know it.
Hating the idea of Donald Trump as POTUS does not give elected officials the right to ignore President Trump.

All 2 dozen of them should be voted out immediately. They are willingly refusing to do their job. F*ck them.
delta1 Offline
#9 Posted: Mon, Jan 16 2017, 6:28 PM EST
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It is disheartening to see elected members of Congress fail to do their jobs. But is attending an inauguration part of the job description?

How about Congress advising and consenting, reviewing and voting for a President's myriad nominees for executive/dept. head positions, judgships, etc? Obama's administration had to endure a vacuum of leadership once the two Houses of Congress were ruled by the GOP, who refused to even consider his selections, let alone vote on them. The Dems don't have enough leverage/numbers to play that game, so the GOP has a huge window to advance the conservative agenda, yet they focus on window dressing details like who's going to the celebration? Come on...start making laws that will benefit all Americans...
Speyside Offline
#10 Posted: Mon, Jan 16 2017, 6:30 PM EST
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Is it part of their job to attend an inauguration? I think they are making a huge mistake. You are probably right that they will not work with Trump. How is the different than the Republicans who would not work with Obama? I think all politicians work for someone other than the people they are supposed to represent.
delta1 Offline
#11 Posted: Mon, Jan 16 2017, 6:59 PM EST
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Totally agree with you there Spey. Most politicians are bought and paid for by whoever "donates" to their elections, and then makes "the best deals" once they are in office. The Citizen's United decision makes this much easier to do anonomously, and puts national money into many elections in obscure corners of the country, so its's impossible to follow the money.
tailgater Offline
#12 Posted: Mon, Jan 16 2017, 8:49 PM EST
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delta1 wrote:
It is disheartening to see elected members of Congress fail to do their jobs. But is attending an inauguration part of the job description?

How about Congress advising and consenting, reviewing and voting for a President's myriad nominees for executive/dept. head positions, judgships, etc? Obama's administration had to endure a vacuum of leadership once the two Houses of Congress were ruled by the GOP, who refused to even consider his selections, let alone vote on them. The Dems don't have enough leverage/numbers to play that game, so the GOP has a huge window to advance the conservative agenda, yet they focus on window dressing details like who's going to the celebration? Come on...start making laws that will benefit all Americans...


Attending isn't mandatory, I'm sure. It's their message of complete and total opposition.
And the GOP isn't window dressing this issue. It's being reported because these 24 are heroes to the left. Again, you're deflecting on the subject matter. Probably because you know it's wrong.

The GOP is run by a bunch of idiots. That's how Trump won their nomination.
The DEMS are worse. That's how Trump won the election.
We've got 4 years of the Twitter Jockey, so it would be wise to listen, debate and vote on the issues that matter. Telling him that you're boycotting him is the OPPOSITE of making an effort. The democrats are a minority party and NEED bipartisan support to even wipe their collective azzes. This isn't how you achieve that.

Vote them all out.
They're incompetent. At best.
Covfireman Offline
#13 Posted: Mon, Jan 16 2017, 9:13 PM EST
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tailgater wrote:


The GOP is run by a bunch of idiots. That's how Trump won their nomination.
The DEMS are worse. That's how Trump won the election.
We've got 4 years of the Twitter Jockey,

Vote them all out.
They're incompetent. At best.



+1
ZRX1200 Offline
#14 Posted: Mon, Jan 16 2017, 10:06 PM EST
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MACS Offline
#15 Posted: Mon, Jan 16 2017, 10:14 PM EST
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delta1 Offline
#16 Posted: Mon, Jan 16 2017, 10:34 PM EST
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Not sure if anybody was keeping track of members of Congress who skipped previous inaugurations, but this is an issue this year only because some people are jumping all over themselves proclaiming their boycott of the event, as a way to score points with their constituencies.

How many of you thought much about the inauguration before some people said they were gonna pass? How many tuned in to the Obama inauguration? I guess if it's your ox being sworn in, it's important...to mash a metaphor...

Trump and his team are a little peeved that so many A list and B list performers declined to attend/perform at the inauguration ball...
ZRX1200 Offline
#17 Posted: Mon, Jan 16 2017, 10:53 PM EST
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Did they make a big deal of announcing it?
ZRX1200 Offline
#18 Posted: Mon, Jan 16 2017, 10:53 PM EST
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You think the people that voted for him give 2 schits about "A listers"?
victor809 Offline
#19 Posted: Mon, Jan 16 2017, 11:05 PM EST
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I doubt the people who voted for.him give two sh@ts about teeth....
ZRX1200 Offline
#20 Posted: Tue, Jan 17 2017, 12:09 AM EST
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You had yours punched out in jail?
Krazeehorse Offline
#21 Posted: Tue, Jan 17 2017, 7:21 AM EST
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Since almost everything members of congress do is geared toward their re-election it makes me wonder what the citizens of the districts represented by the "skippers" are like that these leaders think it's a good idea to boycott the inauguration. I believe Michelle was heralding those who are taking this position and "we" should stand with them.
tailgater Offline
#22 Posted: Tue, Jan 17 2017, 9:28 AM EST
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delta1 wrote:
Not sure if anybody was keeping track of members of Congress who skipped previous inaugurations, but this is an issue this year only because some people are jumping all over themselves proclaiming their boycott of the event, as a way to score points with their constituencies.


You're correct. The issue is absolutely the public bragging by those boycotting. Starting with Lewis. Again, these 2 dozen are firmly planting the stake in the ground and proclaiming they won't work with the administration. It's the absolute worst thing a politician can do.

delta1 wrote:
How many of you thought much about the inauguration before some people said they were gonna pass? How many tuned in to the Obama inauguration? I guess if it's your ox being sworn in, it's important...to mash a metaphor...


Not only did I watch Obama's inauguration, I was overwhelmed with emotion. I took the time to make sure my young kids understood the significance.
After some bitter campaigning and nasty comments by the talking heads, I was able to witness the first black man to take the oath of office.
I put very little stock in skin color in terms of equating it to accomplishments. But this was significant.


delta1 wrote:
Trump and his team are a little peeved that so many A list and B list performers declined to attend/perform at the inauguration ball...


True. But this is unrelated to the boycott by the malcontents.
gummy jones Offline
#23 Posted: Tue, Jan 17 2017, 9:37 AM EST
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the only remaining play for the celebrities and dem politicians is to make trump appear to be an illegitimate candidate

they will guise their actions as patriotism and love and whatever else but it is entirely self serving and purely partisan

im no trump fanboy but this represents a new low

i hated everything about obamas campaign/election and could care less if he was the first black president, woman, etc as that office should be based on leadership and character alone but i still watched his inauguration because he was the new president and that made it historic

i hope trump is a great president and that the gov steps out of the way so we the people can make this nation great again

the icing on the cake will be these dem "leaders" isolating themselves and hopefully ending their reign of suckling off the public teat
TMCTLT Offline
#24 Posted: Tue, Jan 17 2017, 9:43 AM EST
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gummy jones wrote:
the only remaining play for the celebrities and dem politicians is to make trump appear to be an illegitimate candidate

they will guise their actions as patriotism and love and whatever else but it is entirely self serving and purely partisan

im no trump fanboy but this represents a new low

i hated everything about obamas campaign/election and could care less if he was the first black president, woman, etc as that office should be based on leadership and character alone but i still watched his inauguration because he was the new president and that made it historic

i hope trump is a great president and that the gov steps out of the way so we the people can make this nation great again

the icing on the cake will be these dem "leaders" isolating themselves and hopefully ending their reign of suckling off the public teat




If only we could be so fortunate....



delta1 wrote:


Trump and his team are a little peeved that so many A list and B list performers declined to attend/perform at the inauguration ball...



For starters the list is SHORT @ best.....and todays A - B list is yesterdays " I can't seem to find work " crowd!!!!

Meh
Stinkdyr Offline
#25 Posted: Tue, Jan 17 2017, 10:39 AM EST
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tailgater wrote:
Attending isn't mandatory, I'm sure. It's their message of complete and total opposition.
And the GOP isn't window dressing this issue. It's being reported because these 24 are heroes to the left. Again, you're deflecting on the subject matter. Probably because you know it's wrong.

The GOP is run by a bunch of idiots. That's how Trump won their nomination.
The DEMS are worse. That's how Trump won the election.
We've got 4 years of the Twitter Jockey, so it would be wise to listen, debate and vote on the issues that matter. Telling him that you're boycotting him is the OPPOSITE of making an effort. The democrats are a minority party and NEED bipartisan support to even wipe their collective azzes. This isn't how you achieve that.

Vote them all out.
They're incompetent. At best.




Welcome to the Libertarian Party!!
We have been expecting you....


Beer
TMCTLT Offline
#26 Posted: Tue, Jan 17 2017, 12:21 PM EST
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https://thehornnews.com/exposed-leftists-plot-inauguration-acid-attack/
Buckwheat Offline
#27 Posted: Tue, Jan 17 2017, 12:24 PM EST
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TMCTLT wrote:
https://thehornnews.com/exposed-leftists-plot-inauguration-acid-attack/


Looks totally legit to me. Sarcasm
dstieger Offline
#28 Posted: Tue, Jan 17 2017, 12:33 PM EST
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tailgater wrote:
about 2 dozen Democrat members of Congress will be boycotting the inauguration.



I'm hoping they're putting their tickets up on stubhub or craigslist. Wife wants to go...but I'm afraid best we're going to do is the Uecker seats
tailgater Offline
#29 Posted: Tue, Jan 17 2017, 1:00 PM EST
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You must be in the front roooow!
delta1 Offline
#30 Posted: Tue, Jan 17 2017, 1:12 PM EST
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tailgater wrote:
You're correct. The issue is absolutely the public bragging by those boycotting. Starting with Lewis. Again, these 2 dozen are firmly planting the stake in the ground and proclaiming they won't work with the administration. It's the absolute worst thing a politician can do.



Not only did I watch Obama's inauguration, I was overwhelmed with emotion. I took the time to make sure my young kids understood the significance.
After some bitter campaigning and nasty comments by the talking heads, I was able to witness the first black man to take the oath of office.
I put very little stock in skin color in terms of equating it to accomplishments. But this was significant.




True. But this is unrelated to the boycott by the malcontents.



You're right, we do have more in common than we have disagreements...but, some stuff we disagree about...

I was unable to watch Obama's inauguration...had to work.
TMCTLT Offline
#31 Posted: Tue, Jan 17 2017, 1:24 PM EST
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Buckwheat wrote:
Looks totally legit to me. Sarcasm




So.....how should it " look" d'oh!
Buckwheat Offline
#32 Posted: Tue, Jan 17 2017, 1:30 PM EST
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TMCTLT wrote:
So.....how should it " look" d'oh!


Less like the "golden shower" story.
TMCTLT Offline
#33 Posted: Tue, Jan 17 2017, 1:33 PM EST
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Buckwheat wrote:
Less like the "golden shower" story.




After eight loooong grueling years of Obummer....it's difficult to recognize ANYTHING legit I suppose. What with all that transparent government we enjoyed under him
tailgater Offline
#34 Posted: Tue, Jan 17 2017, 4:34 PM EST
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delta1 wrote:


I was unable to watch Obama's inauguration...had to work.


Not a common issue for most of his supporters...
ZRX1200 Offline
#35 Posted: Tue, Jan 17 2017, 4:53 PM EST
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Maxine Waters already talking impeachment.
dstieger Offline
#36 Posted: Tue, Jan 17 2017, 4:55 PM EST
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She's always been pretty offensive, but impeachable offenses?
Abrignac Offline
#37 Posted: Tue, Jan 17 2017, 6:10 PM EST
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ZRX1200 wrote:
Maxine Waters already talking impeachment.


Another idiot eating from an empty feed back.
ZRX1200 Offline
#38 Posted: Tue, Jan 17 2017, 7:50 PM EST
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She's said if the charges of his connections to Russia were true (but didn't specify)and also didn't say who made those charges. She's a MASSIVE idiot. Like worse than cheeto bad.
Abrignac Offline
#39 Posted: Tue, Jan 17 2017, 8:14 PM EST
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ZRX1200 wrote:
She's said if the charges of his connections to Russia were true (but didn't specify)and also didn't say who made those charges. She's a MASSIVE idiot. Like worse than cheeto bad.



Crayon stupid.
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