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Just Relax Offline
#1 Posted: Thu, Sep 29 2016, 5:41 PM EST
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So I helped a guy move some stuff last weekend and got an unexpected $20. I told myself I'm going to splurge and buy a Padron Anny. I go into the B&M tonight and look through the options of Padrons and walk out with 3 cheaper cigars instead.

I really enjoy the Padron 2000, 5000 etc. I can also buy 2 or 3 of these for the price of the anny's.

Are they really that much better? I'm starting to develop the ability to pick up on flavors but I don't want to waste a good cigar if I'm not able to appreciate it yet.

If so they are better, which "upgrade" should be my first.

Thanks for the advice in advance.
Abrignac Offline
#2 Posted: Thu, Sep 29 2016, 5:49 PM EST
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All cigars taste pretty much the same. Why waste your money. Get Gurkhas for 97% off. Thank me later.
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#3 Posted: Thu, Sep 29 2016, 5:56 PM EST
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The only way you will know is to try one.
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#4 Posted: Thu, Sep 29 2016, 6:01 PM EST
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I like the 64s a lot more then the x000 series but I don't think I would ever pay $20 for one, should be able to find them a lot cheaper then that. Now the 26s are in that range and I don't feel there is a big enough difference in them and the 64s to justify paying for the 26s. Speyside is right though everyone's taste is different so only you can be the judge of it is worth it for you.
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#5 Posted: Thu, Sep 29 2016, 6:02 PM EST
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Pick your favorite size and buy it in 1926, and 1964. Maduro and natural, and then all the 44,45, 46, 80, 85, and both 50s.
sd72 Offline
#6 Posted: Thu, Sep 29 2016, 6:03 PM EST
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And a millennium
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#7 Posted: Thu, Sep 29 2016, 6:07 PM EST
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I've smoked a lot of the x000 line, never tried one I liked... then a few weeks ago smoked one of the 64 maduro corona's... got it for $14 at the local Indian Casino... I'd rather pay $14 for one of those than $3 or $4 each for any number of the x000's... just my opinion, but it's mine, which makes it better than yours...
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#8 Posted: Thu, Sep 29 2016, 6:18 PM EST
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Must try the Anni 64. Have done it and will never go back to the x000 series - an old standby till then.
Abrignac Offline
#9 Posted: Thu, Sep 29 2016, 6:21 PM EST
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Pardon grows their own tobacco in Nicaragua. You won't find an abundance of information regarding the blend. But, if memory serves me correctly the tobaccos in the x000 line is aged 3 years. The 1926 for a minimum of 5. Not sure about the 1964.

As far as what tastes better or if they are worth it will depend on ones pallet at the time it's smoked. Hence my earlier answer.
DrMaddVibe Offline
#10 Posted: Thu, Sep 29 2016, 6:24 PM EST
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Just Relax wrote:
So I helped a guy move some stuff last weekend and got an unexpected $20. I told myself I'm going to splurge and buy a Padron Anny. I go into the B&M tonight and look through the options of Padrons and walk out with 3 cheaper cigars instead.

I really enjoy the Padron 2000, 5000 etc. I can also buy 2 or 3 of these for the price of the anny's.

Are they really that much better? I'm starting to develop the ability to pick up on flavors but I don't want to waste a good cigar if I'm not able to appreciate it yet.

If so they are better, which "upgrade" should be my first.

Thanks for the advice in advance.



Use the analogy of women in place of cigars.

Can you see where this is going? No? You're on your own and you're in for the worst ride of your life.

Yes? Then you fully understand what you asked and you will now go for the 64 Diplomatico.

Why go out with a Thelma from Scooby Doo when you can kick boots with a Raquel Welch?
Just Relax Offline
#11 Posted: Thu, Sep 29 2016, 6:29 PM EST
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Sounds good. Pick up a couple 64s. Smoke one and trade the other for a gurk sampler. See if they all taste the same.

Makes sense thanks for the suggestions
Abrignac Offline
#12 Posted: Thu, Sep 29 2016, 6:36 PM EST
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Pardon grows their own tobacco in Nicaragua. You won't find an abundance of information regarding the blend. But, if memory serves me correctly the tobaccos in the x000 line is aged 3 years. The 1926 for a minimum of 5. Not sure about the 1964.

As far as what tastes better or if they are worth it will depend on ones pallet at the time it's smoked. Hence my earlier answer.
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#13 Posted: Thu, Sep 29 2016, 6:38 PM EST
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personally i like 26s better than 64s although many disagree, especially given the price difference

a 64 is a really good cigar every time

definitely treat yourself
Whistlebritches Offline
#14 Posted: Thu, Sep 29 2016, 6:45 PM EST
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Just remember that all Padron's are one dimensional........in a good way.Of all the one dimensional cigars I have smoked the Padron 64 maduro(PAM 64) is by far the best.I like the smaller ring gauges better but that is a matter of taste.The X000 series in maduro is also very good with a little age on it........but still very one dimensional.
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#15 Posted: Thu, Sep 29 2016, 6:52 PM EST
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^ well done. Was trying to explain it.

I'm not a big Padron fan. The 26 and 64 are great, but not my thing. Padrons all taste like Padrons to me, with the anniversary lines being a tastier version.

If I'm dropping 20 at a shpo, I'll usually grab a God of Fire. My local shpo owner loves em, carries most, and they are priced at or below what I see online (most of their cigars are double or more. Pretty much everything is 10-15, with GOF 20-25)
Just Relax Offline
#16 Posted: Thu, Sep 29 2016, 6:58 PM EST
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Whistlebritches wrote:
Just remember that all Padron's are one dimensional........in a good way.Of all the one dimensional cigars I have smoked the Padron 64 maduro(PAM 64) is by far the best.I like the smaller ring gauges better but that is a matter of taste.The X000 series in maduro is also very good with a little age on it........but still very one dimensional.


I agree with this. From light to nub it is a very consistent smoke. I will be picking up a 64.
Just Relax Offline
#17 Posted: Thu, Sep 29 2016, 6:59 PM EST
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DrMaddVibe wrote:
Use the analogy of women in place of cigars.

Can you see where this is going? No? You're on your own and you're in for the worst ride of your life.

Yes? Then you fully understand what you asked and you will now go for the 64 Diplomatico.

Why go out with a Thelma from Scooby Doo when you can kick boots with a Raquel Welch?


Very good analogy. I see were it's going.
Just Relax Offline
#18 Posted: Thu, Sep 29 2016, 7:01 PM EST
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danmdevries wrote:
^ well done. Was trying to explain it.

I'm not a big Padron fan. The 26 and 64 are great, but not my thing. Padrons all taste like Padrons to me, with the anniversary lines being a tastier version.

If I'm dropping 20 at a shpo, I'll usually grab a God of Fire. My local shpo owner loves em, carries most, and they are priced at or below what I see online (most of their cigars are double or more. Pretty much everything is 10-15, with GOF 20-25)


After a few days on here I'm going to have to learn more about Fuente. So much to learn...
Abrignac Offline
#19 Posted: Thu, Sep 29 2016, 7:40 PM EST
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Just Relax wrote:
After a few days on here I'm going to have to learn more about Fuente. So much to learn...


You'll fine that Fuentes are by and large one of the most consistent brands on the market. They grow most of their own tobacco, process it then roll it. I don't I've ever hear of anyone having a burn issue with one. They age their cigars before they sell them etc. They also manufacture the Astons and the Diamond Crowns.

Pepin is another top maker. In addition to their own brands they manufacture the Tatuaje cigars and a few others. You'll find a bit more range with Pepin made cigars than with the Fuente's.

Bookmark halfwheel.com lots of good information there.
Abrignac Offline
#20 Posted: Thu, Sep 29 2016, 7:54 PM EST
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Seek out info regarding the different growing regions. Each has its own nuances. Primings from different areas on the same plant produce vastly different tobaccos as well. Different vitolas (sizes) within the same line will have different flavor profiles and even burn differently because different types of tobaccos burn differently and each size will have different blend ratios. Different wrappers can have a profound effect on the taste of a blend.

On way to experience this is to compare the Fuente's 8-5-8's. But, you'll have probably have to wait a month or so to do it properly. Fuente produces a vitola called an 8-5-8. For the most part, the blend is the same it's the wrappers that vary. Throughout the year it can be found with a natural wrapper and a maduro wrapper. In more limited quantities it can be found with a candela wrapper. Around the holidays the Sungrowns are released. Then every few years they release a limited quantity of rosado wrapped cigars. You'll find a world of difference in taste yet the blend is the same.
bgz Offline
#21 Posted: Thu, Sep 29 2016, 9:00 PM EST
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I used to smoke the 2000s and Londres a lot when I was a straight noob.

I used to love them, I recently smoked a couple and they just didn't do it for me.

But the 64's, 26's and FR lines, they are still great for me.

I wouldn't smoke them all the time, as other's said, they are a one trick pony, but it's a good trick.

They make smaller anniversary cigars that are cheaper that you can try before you shell out for a bigger size to see if you like them.

If you like the x000 you'll like the annis.

I prefer the naturals over the maduros, but that's just me.
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#22 Posted: Thu, Sep 29 2016, 10:05 PM EST
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I like the x000 series but I usually let them sit in the humi for a couple years.
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#23 Posted: Thu, Sep 29 2016, 10:40 PM EST
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Been smoking the 1926 line for at least ten years now and I can honestly say it is the most consistent performing cigar on the market in terms of quality, construction, and flavor.

Fuente comes close but I'm still not as big a fan of opus as I am any of the Padrons. Opus just kind of lacks in bold flavors where a Cuban or a Nicaraguan really shine.

Even the Cuban Cohibas I've had recently were good but are missing that real salt of the earth flavor you get out of a good Nicaraguan. Cuaba Salomons were solid though.
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#24 Posted: Thu, Sep 29 2016, 10:43 PM EST
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The padron 1000's series are good smokes too don't get me wrong I've had a fair share of Londres and 6000. Great reliable flavor but the 1926 is yet more refined.
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#25 Posted: Thu, Sep 29 2016, 10:48 PM EST
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Olive V is just as good as a Padron at a much lower cost.

I have some aged Delicias maduros, like me alot.

I have some different PAMs (Padron Anniversary Maduro) and I like them alot, but my lady bought them for me. I would rather buy other things.
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#26 Posted: Fri, Sep 30 2016, 6:41 AM EST
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Just Relax wrote:
After a few days on here I'm going to have to learn more about Fuente. So much to learn...



There are only a few families/companies that are committed to delivering a quality product. Padron, Fuente, Perdomo, La Aurora and Montecristo. There are others but sadly they fall into the boutique category that doesn't do them the justice they deserve. Bucanero is the top of that list.

Everyone else to me is in the fishing lure/golf club mindset. Gotta come up with something new all the time to trick you into buying it. After awhile and several chances at redemption you learn not to go back to that well.

I really wish someone would've told me that tidbit 25 years ago.
DrMaddVibe Offline
#27 Posted: Fri, Sep 30 2016, 6:43 AM EST
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jjanecka wrote:
Been smoking the 1926 line for at least ten years now and I can honestly say it is the most consistent performing cigar on the market in terms of quality, construction, and flavor.

Fuente comes close but I'm still not as big a fan of opus as I am any of the Padrons. Opus just kind of lacks in bold flavors where a Cuban or a Nicaraguan really shine.

Even the Cuban Cohibas I've had recently were good but are missing that real salt of the earth flavor you get out of a good Nicaraguan. Cuaba Salomons were solid though.



Revisit the sun grown and anjeos. I still love the VSG Ashton too.
Whistlebritches Offline
#28 Posted: Fri, Sep 30 2016, 7:34 AM EST
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Just Relax wrote:
After a few days on here I'm going to have to learn more about Fuente. So much to learn...



The Fuente's are excellent smokes bottom to top,probably my favorite line overall.La Flor Dominicana is another........however they are completely different.Both are top notch when it comes to craftsamanship and consistency.Where they differ is in approach.Fuente's are usually med-full with subtle complexities that are to be savored,LFD is anything but subtle,usually med-full to full-full.LFD has some real powerhouse smokes that aren't strong just to be strong......they're chocked full of flavor.Pick up a Double Ligero 452.........you'll love it,if not my snailer is always available.

Good Luck
bgz Offline
#29 Posted: Fri, Sep 30 2016, 10:24 AM EST
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ZRX1200 wrote:
Olive V is just as good as a Padron at a much lower cost.

I have some aged Delicias maduros, like me alot.

I have some different PAMs (Padron Anniversary Maduro) and I like them alot, but my lady bought them for me. I would rather buy other things.


He doesn't lie. Oliva V's are excellent (all of them).

Melanios are one of my all time favs.
Stinkdyr Offline
#30 Posted: Fri, Oct 14 2016, 2:32 PM EST
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The only Padrons I like are regular line maduro.
The rest are all yours!

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