heh, seriously though folks, we can debate the unpleasentries, and the humanity of such a decision till the cows come home. There are those like me, who bang the war drum loudly, and those on the other side, the give peace a chance crowd. At this point, it's all academic. Soon it will all be over, but how's this for a theoretical scenario, and believe me, it's not far fetched... You know that "pneumonia" that's been on the news the last couple of daze? well, maybe it's nature, and "maybe" it's nurture... They have some pretty nasty $hit growing in test tubes in labs right now. You know it, everybody knows it. So how does your sentiment change if something like that gets released on our population? The small pox could kill many thousands of people before we inoculated, would any of you change your position if something like that happened? Do you want to wait? If so how long? Looking for a mushroom cloud on the horizon before you consider other techniques that "oh pleeeease won't you disarm?" don’t kid yourselves. It’s coming if we don’t stop it, and maybe even still if we try. There are MANY around the world who HATE us. So why do they hate us (anticipating the question Rick and others). Oh, so is your point that if we’d only turn our backs on Israel and do whatever the hell else they want us to do, that they’ll just go away? Wrong Jerky boy! These killers are raised from birth to hate us and to kill us and they’ll do so at the first opportunity en-masse. They’ll look for the excuse of the day when they do so. If we don’t act now? Then when? After 10’s of thousands or perhaps hundreds of thousands or even millions of our friends and family are dead and buried? I for one support the doctrine of pre-emption. If you know someone is about to hit you, you can run, defend yourself, or stand there and do nothing like France. I and 75% of the American people say “bring it on, and you’ll be VERY sorry you did”…