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Nikki Haley; the Globalist?
frankj1 Offline
#51 Posted:
Joined: 02-08-2007
Posts: 44,221
ray wrote:
But some people think the Constitution is ALIVE..IT"S ALIVE...IT''S ALIVE! Bwahahaha!



Like Jefferson...when he grew up.

Tortoises move achingly slow too, but are very much alive.

Look, we can start a gofundme for alterations on that boyhood coat if it would help.
RayR Offline
#52 Posted:
Joined: 07-20-2020
Posts: 8,893
frankj1 wrote:
ray wrote:
But some people think the Constitution is ALIVE..IT"S ALIVE...IT''S ALIVE! Bwahahaha!



Like Jefferson...when he grew up.

Tortoises move achingly slow too, but are very much alive.

Look, we can start a gofundme for alterations on that boyhood coat if it would help.



I know Frankie, you think Jefferson was just a naive young man until he became a senior citizen because of one sentence taken from a letter.

Well, he was naive in one respect. Although he was firmly against a broad interpretation of the Constitution that living constitution people adhere to., he believed that a future generation would be wiser and correct those errors that led to a broad construction. You see, a living constitution has nothing to do with amendments as you think it is, it has to do with a broad construction that creates "things that never were there all of a sudden are there.” as Scalia said.

Quote:

When an instrument admits two constructions, the one safe, the other dangerous, the one precise, the other indefinite, I prefer that which is safe and precise. I had rather ask an enlargement of power from the nation, where it is found necessary, than to assume it by a construction which would make our powers boundless. Our peculiar security is in possession of a written Constitution. Let us not make it a blank paper by construction. I say the same as to the opinion of those who consider the grant of the treaty-making power as boundless. If it is, then we have no Constitution. If it has bounds, they can be no others than the definitions of the powers which that instrument gives. It specifies and delineates the operations permitted to the federal government, and gives all the powers necessary to carry these into execution. Whatever of these enumerated objects is proper for a law, Congress may make the law; whatever is proper to be executed by way of a treaty, the President and Senate may enter into the treaty; whatever is to be done by a judicial sentence, the judges may pass the sentence.

Nothing is more likely than that their enumeration of powers is defective. This is the ordinary case of all human works. Let us go on then perfecting it, by adding, by way of amendment to the Constitution, those powers which time and trial show are still wanting. . . . I confess, then, I think it important in the present case to set an example against broad construction by appealing for new power to the people. If, however, our friends shall think differently, certainly I shall acquiesce with satisfaction, confiding that the good sense of our country will correct the evil of construction when it shall produce ill effects. . . .Letter from Thomas Jefferson to Wilson Carey Nicholas (1803)


As lawyer and historian John V. Denson wrote in his book Reassessing the Presidency, "Jefferson failed to understand that the Constitution was written to protect the people from themselves and that to rely on those very people to correct defects in the Constitution, only when those defects had been already exploited for ulterior purposes, was foolish indeed."



Mr. Jones Offline
#53 Posted:
Joined: 06-12-2005
Posts: 19,429
Nikki Haley just announced her VICE PRESIDENTAL

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IT IS DR. MADD VIBE....


D.M.V. IS MEEEESTAAAA VICE PRESIDENT
frankj1 Offline
#54 Posted:
Joined: 02-08-2007
Posts: 44,221
RayR wrote:
I know Frankie, you think Jefferson was just a naive young man until he became a senior citizen because of one sentence taken from a letter.

Well, he was naive in one respect. Although he was firmly against a broad interpretation of the Constitution that living constitution people adhere to., he believed that a future generation would be wiser and correct those errors that led to a broad construction. You see, a living constitution has nothing to do with amendments as you think it is, it has to do with a broad construction that creates "things that never were there all of a sudden are there.” as Scalia said.



As lawyer and historian John V. Denson wrote in his book Reassessing the Presidency, "Jefferson failed to understand that the Constitution was written to protect the people from themselves and that to rely on those very people to correct defects in the Constitution, only when those defects had been already exploited for ulterior purposes, was foolish indeed."




throw all the people you want into this, but they are not remotely related to the point.

You've touted Jefferson from day one, and now you apologize for him, cuz he's been exposed? Fine friend you are.

It wasn't that he thought or said future generations would be wiser, but that they would live in times unimaginable to him and his generation...that was actually very wise. The same can be said of our children's grandchildren...we should be wise enough to realize we can not nor should not handcuff them either.

And we don't even own human beings! Cuz we know better than Jefferson and his contemporaries.

You've lost this one on the previous page.

Move on.
Mr. Jones Offline
#55 Posted:
Joined: 06-12-2005
Posts: 19,429
Boo Boo wins +1
Ray R loses -1
PO' PO' ray
Waaaa waaaa waaaaa
Love ya Ray ray...
HockeyDad Offline
#56 Posted:
Joined: 09-20-2000
Posts: 46,135
frankj1 wrote:
throw all the people you want into this, but they are not remotely related to the point.

You've touted Jefferson from day one, and now you apologize for him, cuz he's been exposed? Fine friend you are.

It wasn't that he thought or said future generations would be wiser, but that they would live in times unimaginable to him and his generation...that was actually very wise. The same can be said of our children's grandchildren...we should be wise enough to realize we can not nor should not handcuff them either.

And we don't even own human beings! Cuz we know better than Jefferson and his contemporaries.

You've lost this one on the previous page.

Move on.


With your declaration of victory, did you prove Nikki is a globalist or did you prove Nikki is not a globalist?

RayR Offline
#57 Posted:
Joined: 07-20-2020
Posts: 8,893
Boo Boo lost big time.

He didn't know what "living constitutionalism" meant. He thought it had to do with adding amendments to the Constitution.
Scalia tried to explain it to him, but it didn't sink in.
Jefferson tried to explain it to him but I guess his oldy-time words confused him.
Frankie uses his lefty presentist view of history as a backup. When all else fails talk about... SLAVERY.

But Frankie claims victory anyway in the face of defeat, kinda like Nikki Haily.

Mr. Jones is just his propaganda agent.
RayR Offline
#58 Posted:
Joined: 07-20-2020
Posts: 8,893
Nikki is gone, she's gone and canceled her campaign. Even her LEFTY voters couldn't save her.

I heard her say she really concerned about the national debt, spending is out of control and stuff...but she's in favor of spending pallets of cash for foreign interventionism and the MIC. Confused

As Haley Ends Republican Race, Survey Finds 92% Of Her Voters Approve Of Biden's Performance

BY TYLER DURDEN
WEDNESDAY, MAR 06, 2024 - 08:38 AM

Quote:
Republican presidential candidate Nikki Haley plans to end her campaign as early as Wednesday morning following her dismal results on Super Tuesday, The Wall Street Journal reported, citing people familiar with her plans.

Nikki Haley plans to suspend her Republican presidential primary bid in a speech Wednesday morning: WSJ

During last night's not-so-super-Tuesday, she only secured only a victory in one state - Vermont - out of the 15 states that held GOP contests; to go along with her 'victory' in the swamp (DC).

https://www.zerohedge.com/political/nikki-haley-will-exit-republican-presidential-race-after-super-tuesday-flop

DrMaddVibe Offline
#59 Posted:
Joined: 10-21-2000
Posts: 55,444
Mr. Jones wrote:
Nikki Haley just announced her VICE PRESIDENTAL

P
I
C
K



IT IS DR. MADD VIBE....


D.M.V. IS MEEEESTAAAA VICE PRESIDENT


I cudda been a contendah!

Seriously, how hard can being the VP really be? Look at all the examples since I've been alive. Only a couple ascended. What's the fun in that?!?

That all being said, I don't really see me in her selection process...at all. Don't believe in the UN. I loathe the WEF. The MIC what runs our government now? I can see Haley actually selecting Kameltoes for her VP because they could cackle together and share the same brain cells finishing each other's sentences!!!


PS: I don't even find her remotely attractive. I've given up tequila too.
DrMaddVibe Offline
#60 Posted:
Joined: 10-21-2000
Posts: 55,444
Mr. Jones wrote:
Nikki Haley just announced her VICE PRESIDENTAL

P
I
C
K



IT IS DR. MADD VIBE....


D.M.V. IS MEEEESTAAAA VICE PRESIDENT
h

I cudda been a contendah!

Seriously, how hard can being the VP really be? Look at all the examples since I've been alive. Only a couple ascended. What's the fun in that?!?

That all being said, I don't really see me in her selection process...at all. Don't believe in the UN. I loathe the WEF. The MIC what runs our government now? I can see Haley actually selecting Kameltoes for her VP because they could cackle together and share the same brain cells finishing each other's sentences!!!


PS: I don't even find her remotely attractive. I've given up tequila too.

America dodged a bullet!
Gene363 Offline
#61 Posted:
Joined: 01-24-2003
Posts: 30,820
What happened to Haley?

https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=2129608980709726&id=17841445298991434

LOL
RobertHively Offline
#62 Posted:
Joined: 01-14-2015
Posts: 1,848

Raytheon Lowers Flags To Half-Staff After Nikki Haley Drops Out

WALTHAM, MA — A somber mood fell over one of the nation's foremost defense contractors this morning, as Raytheon lowered its flags to half-staff after Nikki Haley announced she was dropping out of the 2024 presidential race.

The aerospace technology corporation, which had been holding out hope that the world would enter a new era of highly profitable war, destruction, and death with the onset of World War III, was devastated by this morning's news that Haley had suspended her campaign.

"This is a major blow," said a Raytheon spokesperson. "We are deeply saddened by the news of Nikki Haley dropping out of the race. It is a dark day for us and for anyone who was hoping for a much darker future for the human race, and indeed the entire world. We have lowered our flags to half-staff in solemn memory of the dream we shared with Nikki Haley of endless wars and vast rivers of defense contract money."

In a brief statement, Haley also acknowledged disappointment that she would be unable to lead the country into a global conflict that would wreak havoc on human civilization. "It is indeed a sad day," she said. "While Donald Trump continues his quest to return the world to a state of peace and stability, we hoped to plunge the globe further into very lucrative chaos. I thank my dear friends at Raytheon for their support, the millions and millions of dollars they have given me over the years, and their ongoing desire to see the world burn."

At publishing time, Raytheon's parent company had already offered Haley a seat on its board of directors.
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