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Trump Said..... Do you agree with him?
Abrignac Offline
#51 Posted:
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Trump still suffers from two debilitating illnesses; Diarrhea of the Mouth and Constipation of the Brain.

A more sensible statement would have been:

“A treaty is a contract between two or more entities. That contract spells out certain obligations that MUST be fulfilled by all parties. One of those obligations is a financial commitment. If (insert country) wishes for the USA and other NATO countries to assist in its defense then that country must meet its financial obligation to NATO. Failure to do so calls into question that member nations commitment to the treaty.”
DrMaddVibe Offline
#52 Posted:
Joined: 10-21-2000
Posts: 55,507
8trackdisco wrote:
Wellllllllll (Judge Smails voice) we’re waiaiaiaiaiting!

DMV,
Do you agree with Trump that if NATO members have fallen behind on their 2% of GDP to be invested in their military, Russia 🇷🇺 can do “whatever the hell they want to them”?

Sure hope Canada isn’t underfunded. I’m practically a border state.



I do not agree with that statement he made. I firmly believe though that it was tempered with ice cold reality of if you want eggs, keep your chickens safe. NATO is a fustercluck where you have Islamofascists acting as chairpeople for Human Rights. Do I agree that 7th Century beliefs hold up now? No. Everything about them goes against any kind of maturation the World has accomplished from drinking water to women's rights to public execution. Yet NATO in its forms exists. Seeing as how it's always US money and US blood devoted to all the ills NATO can muster why bother having or belonging to an institution that is inherently bent on the destruction of the nation that's always giving?

That all said, wishing nations into NATO that want war isn't a very bright idea for any coalition to defend.



Had no idea my opinion on anything outside my own business was that important. Next time send me a PM!
Brewha Offline
#53 Posted:
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It's not a secret that Trump loves Putin and wants to get in bed with Russia. He already encourages them to do whatever the hell they want. Dictators do stick together - at least at first.
MACS Offline
#54 Posted:
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Yeah... Trump was the "dictator". Which political opponent was he prosecuting in multiple states, again?

Whose home did he have the FBI raid?
Brewha Offline
#55 Posted:
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MACS wrote:
Yeah... Trump was the "dictator". Which political opponent was he prosecuting in multiple states, again?

Whose home did he have the FBI raid?

Not all of us believe that the law always wrong and Trump is always innocent.

We leave that to you.
HockeyDad Offline
#56 Posted:
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Posts: 46,163
Brewha wrote:
Not all of us believe that the law always wrong and Trump is always innocent.

We leave that to you.


You dodged the question.
Brewha Offline
#57 Posted:
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Posts: 12,201
HockeyDad wrote:
You dodged the question.


The spin that Biden ordered the 91 felony charges across 4 states, multiple fraud convictions, the E. Jean Carroll judgments, etc., etc., is nothing more than pitiful denial by the MAGA folks - of his obvious guilt. Which they do not care about.

And when he refused to return the stolen documents the FBI raided Trumps house.

OR - maybe Trump is a victim.
A pitiful, accordion playing, abused, overweight, victim who can't keep himself out of court.
HockeyDad Offline
#58 Posted:
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I thought you said Trump was a dictator yet he did not do any dictator stuff.

Then you cited a bunch of dictator stuff done to Trump and said it’s all just a coincidence.
Brewha Offline
#59 Posted:
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Posts: 12,201
HockeyDad wrote:
I thought you said Trump was a dictator yet he did not do any dictator stuff.

Then you cited a bunch of dictator stuff done to Trump and said it’s all just a coincidence.


Yes I said that he was I dictator. I did not say he was any good at it.

No, not coincidental. These things were an eventuality….cause he’s a grifter.
8trackdisco Offline
#60 Posted:
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DrMaddVibe wrote:
I do not agree with that statement he made. I firmly believe though that it was tempered with ice cold reality of if you want eggs, keep your chickens safe. NATO is a fustercluck where you have Islamofascists acting as chairpeople for Human Rights. Do I agree that 7th Century beliefs hold up now? No. Everything about them goes against any kind of maturation the World has accomplished from drinking water to women's rights to public execution. Yet NATO in its forms exists. Seeing as how it's always US money and US blood devoted to all the ills NATO can muster why bother having or belonging to an institution that is inherently bent on the destruction of the nation that's always giving?

That all said, wishing nations into NATO that want war isn't a very bright idea for any coalition to defend.

Had no idea my opinion on anything outside my own business was that important. Next time send me a PM!


Happy you followed through. That is what I'm looking for from people- especially those who support Trump. Want see see critcal thinking and thoughts that belong to the poster themselves.

Because I generally have spent less time on the political forum. i dont know how often people are in lockstep with everything Trump- or for that matter Biden supporters, actually break from their leader. Or, why they agree with something which is completely assinine.




8trackdisco Offline
#61 Posted:
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HockeyDad wrote:
I thought you said Trump was a dictator yet he did not do any dictator stuff.

Then you cited a bunch of dictator stuff done to Trump and said it’s all just a coincidence.


Nope. Trump didn't say he was a dictator, but he did say he would be on Day 1. Just Day 1.

I know, I know. How much dictating could he do in just one day? So its okay then?
HockeyDad Offline
#62 Posted:
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8trackdisco wrote:
Nope. Trump didn't say he was a dictator, but he did say he would be on Day 1. Just Day 1.

I know, I know. How much dictating could he do in just one day? So its okay then?


I dunno. How many executive orders did Biden sign on day one? How many did he read?


Are you better off now than you were four years ago?
8trackdisco Offline
#63 Posted:
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HockeyDad wrote:
I dunno. How many executive orders did Biden sign on day one? How many did he read?


Are you better off now than you were four years ago?



Think the accouting was Trump signed 4 during his first week, and Biden did 22.
Biden ran on reversing everything Trump did, so as much as I don't care for Biden, he did what he told his supporters he would do.

Am I better off now than for years ago? No and Yes.

No, in the sense of the money I'm making now vs three years ago and inflation has bitten everyone.
Yes, if we are counting a happier family, let stress, and more peace.
DrMaddVibe Offline
#64 Posted:
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8trackdisco wrote:
Happy you followed through. That is what I'm looking for from people- especially those who support Trump. Want see see critcal thinking and thoughts that belong to the poster themselves.

Because I generally have spent less time on the political forum. i dont know how often people are in lockstep with everything Trump- or for that matter Biden supporters, actually break from their leader. Or, why they agree with something which is completely assinine.






Half the time Biden doesn't even make sense when he talks. Asinine. Then doubles down with fits of anger tempered with creepy whispering. Asinine.

If that is what you're looking for you will find that the Left is far more guilty of it than the Right. Look at what we have in there now and zero impeachments. The last guy was voted out and the House STILL impeached him! There's no critical thinking employed with that...at all. The absolute venom used against one man and he still didn't break is astounding. Just remember what they're doing to him...is akin to the Spanish War...they're perfecting their attack mechanisms...they can do to anybody.

Please tell me all the good Biden has accomplished. He's not running on that. He stopped using the term "Bidenomics". He demonizes food manufacturers for shrinking their package content while charging the same price...hello...that's how they make money! He wants to hold up money for his porous border (which he blames Trump for!) invasion while dropping billions into Ukraine (which NEVER had any shot of winning!) and dropping single dollars into the Israeli effort to eliminate the scourge that no other neighboring nation wants. Where's the outrage? Crickets.

Crickets.

Trump says something? Oh, the whack-a-mole game is on! What did he say? How can it be misconstrued into some dividing racist bender? Is it even legal? The nonsense doesn't translate 8. The dog don't hunt. You can "cherry pick" all you want, but Trump is out there meeting with tens of thousands of voters during any campaign stop and he has a teleprompter but rarely uses it...stays up there for hours...asking America for another chance to right the ship. Biden has to use the service entrance for Air Force One now because it's lower (even though he's fallen from that one too!) and cannot read words in a 72 point font from a piece of glass 36 inches from his face! He's seeing dead people now. Is that a sign that the End is Near for him? I dunno. It was ALL spelled out during their last series of debates. Go back and watch them. EVERYTHING Trump said came true. EVERYTHING. Biden lies and lied to secure the office. This temper tantrum voting without repercussions is going to play out again. I don't see Biden winning this. Minorities are fleeing the Democrat Party. Common Sense is kicking in with Americans that want a return to the letter of the Law, and want their leaders to do what their Oath of Office swore them to.
DrMaddVibe Offline
#65 Posted:
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8trackdisco wrote:
Am I better off now than for years ago? No and Yes.

No, in the sense of the money I'm making now vs three years ago and inflation has bitten everyone.
Yes, if we are counting a happier family, let stress, and more peace.



Where in the goonie goo goo do you live where there is let(sic) stress, happy families and more Peace?

Trannies are shooting up every location with semi-automatic guns, hobos living under bridges and on the streets, illegals usurping taxpayer money all while the dollar isn't what it was worth a mere 4 years ago and we're past the point of return for our National debt!

"Tell me where is fancy bred,
Or in the heart or in the head?
How begot, how nourished?

⁠Reply, reply.

It is engender'd in the eyes,
With gazing fed; and fancy dies
In the cradle where it lies.
⁠Let us all ring fancy's knell;
⁠I'll begin it,—Ding, dong, bell.

All. Ding, dong, bell."
Brewha Offline
#66 Posted:
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Posts: 12,201






DrMaddVibe wrote:
Where in the goonie goo goo do you live where there is let(sic) stress, happy families and more Peace?

Trannies are shooting up every location with semi-automatic guns, hobos living under bridges and on the streets, illegals usurping taxpayer money all while the dollar isn't what it was worth a mere 4 years ago and we're past the point of return for our National debt!

"Tell me where is fancy bred,
Or in the heart or in the head?
How begot, how nourished?

⁠Reply, reply.

It is engender'd in the eyes,
With gazing fed; and fancy dies
In the cradle where it lies.
⁠Let us all ring fancy's knell;
⁠I'll begin it,—Ding, dong, bell.

All. Ding, dong, bell."


So you’er against semi automatic guns???

On CBID???


Shame on you

frankj1 Offline
#67 Posted:
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thought this was a Trump Said thread.
8trackdisco Offline
#68 Posted:
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Posts: 60,090
(Sigh)

Yep. Best to deflect, go on a rant, note my spelling error (my apologies, DMV- I meant to say Less Stress).

DMV,
Guess we have nothing else to discuss. All boils down to this...
-You'll vote for Trump, risking that Biden will win.
-I want the candidate that has the best shot at beating Biden.

I also believe he is bad for America almost as much as you see him as the only way out.

-You think the election was stolen. I think he lost.
-You think Trump has no culpability for January 6. I see that as a situation he helped create and then chose not to stop for hours.

In the end, it doesn't matter.
I figured Biden would win in 2020, and also surmized the Red Wave wasn't going to happen when the Trumpians decided their best senatorial candidates were the likes of the Wizard of OZ and Horsechit Walker.

Regardless of what you may think, I don't enjoy being up on you 2-0. Nor do I support Biden.

Am going to try to get this back to the Trump Said..... Do you agree with him? in the spirit designed.

I'll keep looking for 1.8% of things that come out of his mouth that you either don't believe or make an excuse for.
frankj1 Offline
#69 Posted:
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assuming this isn't about one of many quotes, I'll try again...

poisoning the blood of our country...anyone? Bueller?

https://apnews.com/article/trump-hitler-poison-blood-history-f8c3ff512edd120252596a4743324352

HockeyDad Offline
#70 Posted:
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frankj1 wrote:
assuming this isn't about one of many quotes, I'll try again...

poisoning the blood of our country...anyone? Bueller?

https://apnews.com/article/trump-hitler-poison-blood-history-f8c3ff512edd120252596a4743324352



Nope. Not working. Nice try.

frankj1 Offline
#71 Posted:
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so it hits a nerve.
fully expected that
HockeyDad Offline
#72 Posted:
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frankj1 wrote:
so it hits a nerve.
fully expected that


Nope. Not working. The Nazi thing just doesn’t work. Trump’s a Nazi but he moved the US embassy to Jerusalem. How many presidents promised to do but never did? You got better chance of Biden bombing Israel.

I get it. Anyone more conservative than Liz Cheney and Mitt Romney are Nazis. We’ve already been told that half the country are semi-fascists. Just be glad you are on the correct side.
frankj1 Offline
#73 Posted:
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HockeyDad wrote:
Nope. Not working. The Nazi thing just doesn’t work. Trump’s a Nazi but he moved the US embassy to Jerusalem. How many presidents promised to do but never did? You got better chance of Biden bombing Israel.

I get it. Anyone more conservative than Liz Cheney and Mitt Romney are Nazis. We’ve already been told that half the country are semi-fascists. Just be glad you are on the correct side.

you're not seeing the blueprint.
Trump's not a nazi, but he admires the playbook.
just like he admires Putin's total control.
Just like he admires fatty Fat's
Orban's
Bolsonaro's
there are more.


Abrignac Offline
#74 Posted:
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frankj1 wrote:
you're not seeing the blueprint.
Trump's not a nazi, but he admires the playbook.
just like he admires Putin's total control.
Just like he admires fatty Fat's
Orban's
Bolsonaro's
there are more.




My friend I must respectfully disagree.

When Hitler spoke of blood poisoning it was in a much different context. He spoke of it in terms of “race mixing” thereby diluting the Aryan race.

Trump used the phrase in the context of criminals coming into the country and committing crimes. It’s certainly a poor choice of words, but let’s not connect dots towards a non-existent path.
DrMaddVibe Offline
#75 Posted:
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Posts: 55,507
HockeyDad wrote:
Nope. Not working. Nice try.



Wait till they trot out Charlottesville!
DrMaddVibe Offline
#76 Posted:
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8trackdisco wrote:
I'll keep looking for 1.8% of things that come out of his mouth that you either don't believe or make an excuse for.


I'm not making any excuses for anyone.
8trackdisco Offline
#77 Posted:
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Posts: 60,090
HockeyDad wrote:
Nope. Not working. The Nazi thing just doesn’t work. Trump’s a Nazi but he moved the US embassy to Jerusalem. How many presidents promised to do but never did? You got better chance of Biden bombing Israel.

I get it. Anyone more conservative than Liz Cheney and Mitt Romney are Nazis. We’ve already been told that half the country are semi-fascists. Just be glad you are on the correct side.


I don’t think Trump is a Nazi. However, if Trump told his supporters to follow a specific clothing trend, overnight, the clothing stores would be out of brown shirts.
RayR Offline
#78 Posted:
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4 other Presidents who were probably Nazis too. 3 of them were PROGRESSIVES.

Presidents Day: 5 Presidents Who Warned Against Mass Immigration

Quote:
While presidents have long had disagreements on national policy, many agreed that unchecked immigration to the United States ultimately hurts Americans and those legal immigrants who have already arrived.

Five presidents, in particular, have famously warned against mass immigration to the United States — despite their differences on a variety of other issues.

More...

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2024/02/19/presidents-day-5-presidents-who-warned-against-mass-immigration/
HockeyDad Offline
#79 Posted:
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8trackdisco wrote:
I don’t think Trump is a Nazi. However, if Trump told his supporters to follow a specific clothing trend, overnight, the clothing stores would be out of brown shirts.


So it looks like you bought into the whole “cling to their guns and bibles”, “deplorables”, “racist”, “misogynist”, “MAGA semi-fascist”.

I’ve met hardcore Democrats in California that have never left the state and absolutely believe that is what the country is like.

I’m not saying you’re a hardcore California Democrat but let’s just say you quack like a duck!
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#80 Posted:
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HockeyDad wrote:
So it looks like you bought into the whole “cling to their guns and bibles”, “deplorables”, “racist”, “misogynist”, “MAGA semi-fascist”.

I’ve met hardcore Democrats in California that have never left the state and absolutely believe that is what the country is like.

I’m not saying you’re a hardcore California Democrat but let’s just say you quack like a duck!


Funny semi assertion. I’ll crack the door and then quickly close it.
For a decent (or indecent) part of my life, I was further to the right than DMV, MACS, or anybody regularly posting here.
From where I was, you are all flaming libtards. Maybe Rugrunner at his most conservative point in his life would have given me a run for the money.

And in Forest Gump fashion, that’s all I’ve got to say about that.


RobertHively Offline
#81 Posted:
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Is this the Trump thread?


Trump To Address Libertarian Convention In Move That Has Members Debating Merits

"Donald Trump will address the Libertarian Party national convention, in a move that promises publicity for America's largest "third party" while giving Trump an opportunity to shake some non-uniparty votes in his direction.

At the same time, however, Trump puts himself at risk of enduring hostile elements in the crowd, aimed at a candidate with many decidedly non-libertarian tendencies. Trump's pending appearance has also exacerbated some divisions within the Libertarian Party, with some members are questioning the wisdom and propriety of putting Trump in the Libertarian spotlight, and others saying it's a smart move for multiple reasons."

https://www.zerohedge.com/political/trump-address-libertarian-convention-move-has-members-debating-merits



I guess he hopes they have short memories? Better yet, no memory at all
8trackdisco Offline
#82 Posted:
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RobertHively wrote:
Is this the Trump thread?


Trump To Address Libertarian Convention In Move That Has Members Debating Merits

"Donald Trump will address the Libertarian Party national convention, in a move that promises publicity for America's largest "third party" while giving Trump an opportunity to shake some non-uniparty votes in his direction.

At the same time, however, Trump puts himself at risk of enduring hostile elements in the crowd, aimed at a candidate with many decidedly non-libertarian tendencies. Trump's pending appearance has also exacerbated some divisions within the Libertarian Party, with some members are questioning the wisdom and propriety of putting Trump in the Libertarian spotlight, and others saying it's a smart move for multiple reasons."

https://www.zerohedge.com/political/trump-address-libertarian-convention-move-has-members-debating-merits



I guess he hopes they have short memories? Better yet, no memory at all



Trump thread? In the manner of posting what he says, whether people posting here (especially vowed Trump supporters) either agreeing or disagreeing with what he says.

That was the intent in creating this thread.
RobertHively Offline
#83 Posted:
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^

So this isn't like the Joe Sanostra thread where we post articles?

If not, I'm going to create an "🍊 MENG" thread
8trackdisco Offline
#84 Posted:
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RobertHively wrote:
^

So this isn't like the Joe Sanostra thread where we post articles?

If not, I'm going to create an "🍊 MENG" thread


Rock on wit yo bad sef!
Mr. Jones Offline
#85 Posted:
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Cheeto
Never
Does
What
He
Says
Speyside2 Offline
#86 Posted:
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I disagree with him.
DrMaddVibe Offline
#87 Posted:
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RobertHively wrote:
Is this the Trump thread?


Trump To Address Libertarian Convention In Move That Has Members Debating Merits

"Donald Trump will address the Libertarian Party national convention, in a move that promises publicity for America's largest "third party" while giving Trump an opportunity to shake some non-uniparty votes in his direction.

At the same time, however, Trump puts himself at risk of enduring hostile elements in the crowd, aimed at a candidate with many decidedly non-libertarian tendencies. Trump's pending appearance has also exacerbated some divisions within the Libertarian Party, with some members are questioning the wisdom and propriety of putting Trump in the Libertarian spotlight, and others saying it's a smart move for multiple reasons."

https://www.zerohedge.com/political/trump-address-libertarian-convention-move-has-members-debating-merits



I guess he hopes they have short memories? Better yet, no memory at all



This appears to be a strategy that could produce massive dividends. Remember when He asked Blacks, ‘What the hell do you have to lose?’.

https://www.cnn.com/2016/08/19/politics/donald-trump-african-american-voters/index.html

Then increased his turnout in 2020. I believe America saw what he did as President and they believed him. There's polling out that shows an increase over his 2020 turnout. With RFK Jr. sidestepping the Libertarian Party it's going to shortchange them in the viable category. Sure rabid diehards are willing to pull the lever, but there's the rub of giving Biden a 2nd term and that to me is a "Danger Will Robinson, Danger!" warning that we all see that must not be allowed. His lockdown, energy killing, mandated govt. agency power grabs, anti 2nd Amendment, Green New Deal pie in the sky, Border invasion, Ukraine-Iran-Israel funding wars, DEI initiatives into insanity, gender reassignment for children...look, I can go on and on and on about the creep and the choice is obvious whom I will be voting for. There's NEVER going to be a perfect candidate for the job. Ever. I will gladly vote for Trump over Biden each and every day of the week because (while he wasn't my preferred choice back in 2016 I saw and paid attention to how he chose to govern) he did win me over. I never thought he would run as close a true Conservative and maintain once in power. Are there things I wish he'd change? Yeah. I view him more pliable than Pedo Joe. That guy has been, not my words..."I think he has been wrong on nearly every major foreign policy and national security issue over the past four decades,” and the entire World cannot endure more of his leadership nor his Vice President's as she will assume office if he does win a 2nd term. God help us all. This isn't some Left/Right debate. This is a real introspect into how you view the 2 styles and background on how they both governed. The difference is staggering. Whom among the Left can really say on record that they want more Biden? For their own livelihood, their children and grandchildren and for the World?

Trust me, mean tweets aren't that bad in comparison. The lawfare being employed by the Biden Administration in concerted effort in Blue strongholds were designed to take his messaging and campaigning offline are all something you're willing to forgive and allow. If they can do it to a former President worth billions, there's NOTHING stopping them from going after you. They will too.
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