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Another one throws in the towel (for Ram)
8trackdisco Offline
#51 Posted:
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HockeyDad wrote:
People vote with their wallets. That’s why we give them $10k off their student loans. It’s a legal bribe paid by others. Now that’s a win-win! We send you the bill for it.

I didn’t get a tax cut under Trump. I got a tax increase due to SALT. On the bright side, with the Trump tax cuts set to expire in 2025 my taxes will go up again.

Trump is an anti-globalist. That’s the MAGA thing. Lots of the globe we haven’t made great for even the first time and lots of money can be made doing that. Way more money than can be made compared to just making America great again. This is why he is at odds with the globalists, Davo WEF, green new deal/climate change cultists, and the march to global social democracy.


Either way, you make the money. The path must get a little tougher if Biden wins (I’m guessing).

Thought you’d do better on the taxes. If you start a GoFundMe for the tax bill, I’ll send what I can.
HockeyDad Offline
#52 Posted:
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8trackdisco wrote:
Either way, you make the money. The path must get a little tougher if Biden wins (I’m guessing).

Thought you’d do better on the taxes. If you start a GoFundMe for the tax bill, I’ll send what I can.



Taxes are taxes. They gonna happen! National debt is just uncollected taxes.

I’m fine under Biden. I’m in green energy. He’s going to raise your taxes and send money my way. Trump…not so much.

Long term I’m betting Trump was just a speed bump delay on the path to socialism and a central planned economy. Even under socialism some people still live in the big houses on the hill. Someone’s got to dictate to the proles.
8trackdisco Offline
#53 Posted:
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Feel better about being screwed either way, but that has been my general feeling about politicians since I voted For George “Read My Lips” Bush.

It’s all about strategy and positioning and you’ve got all the bases covered. Good job.
HockeyDad Offline
#54 Posted:
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So here is a fun scenario:

Nikki stays in the race for a long time even with no path to enough delegates.
Donald Trump is assassinated or thrown in prison.
Magically Nikki is the Republican nominee!

(Kinda wish Desantis would have stayed in for this scenario but bigger money is behind Nikki)

President Nikki Haley! (RayR’s head just exploded!)
RiverRatRuss Offline
#55 Posted:
Joined: 09-02-2022
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HockeyDad wrote:
So here is a fun scenario:

Nikki stays in the race for a long time even with no path to enough delegates.
Donald Trump is assassinated or thrown in prison.
Magically Nikki is the Republican nominee!

(Kinda wish Desantis would have stayed in for this scenario but bigger money is behind Nikki)

President Nikki Haley! (RayR’s head just exploded!)



LMAO... Herfing

Trumps Oval Office Headquartered at San Quinten and a Hologram of Johnny Cash singing San Quinten at the Inaugural Ball...
RayR Offline
#56 Posted:
Joined: 07-20-2020
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legal bribes...yes. That's part of what what Bastiat called Legal Plunder under socialism..

The strategy is fill the candy bowl and they will come.

ZRX1200 Offline
#57 Posted:
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I’m beginning to think she likes the establishment hand up in her prison wallet.
MACS Offline
#58 Posted:
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Nikki Haley is no different from Liz Cheney and Hillary Clinton — women who have never served in the military and feel the need to "prove" how tough they are by always advocating for more war. To the voters of New Hampshire, please know that a vote for Haley is a vote for endless and bigger wars.

- Tulsi Gabbard
Abrignac Offline
#59 Posted:
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Ramaswamy sure is humping Trump’s leg.

Former GOP presidential candidate Vivek Ramaswamy blasted former United Nations ambassador Nikki Haley and called former President Trump's win in New Hampshire a "victory over America last."
RayR Offline
#60 Posted:
Joined: 07-20-2020
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Abrignac wrote:
Ramaswamy sure is humping Trump’s leg.

Former GOP presidential candidate Vivek Ramaswamy blasted former United Nations ambassador Nikki Haley and called former President Trump's win in New Hampshire a "victory over America last."


Well...although you don't like it, he does have a valid point.

NEVERNIKKI.NET
ZRX1200 Offline
#61 Posted:
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I’m SHOCKED that he didn’t throw his support behind Nikki!!

Would it still be Leg Humping if he had supported her, or would the statement be that he made a smart choice?
RayR Offline
#62 Posted:
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ZRX1200 wrote:
I’m SHOCKED that he didn’t throw his support behind Nikki!!

Would it still be Leg Humping if he had supported her, or would the statement be that he made a smart choice?


That "Leg Humping" would never happen since Nikki and Vivek despise each other.

Vivek has an appeal to paleoconservatives and libertarians. In contrast, Nikki is just D I C K Cheney in heels, a neocon, one of those compassionate conservatives who will cave to the left when under pressure.
8trackdisco Offline
#63 Posted:
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Here is a poll I saw today. The source is an organization called AP Votecast.

Their target was NH voters.

What percentage Will Not Support Trump in November if he is the nominee.

21% of Republicans. 68% of independents.

Yes, only one poll. Polls are often wrong etc.

Think Trump will have to make up that gap by getting a larger chunk of the Democratic voters.
8trackdisco Offline
#64 Posted:
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Posts: 60,078
MACS wrote:
Nikki Haley is no different from Liz Cheney and Hillary Clinton — women who have never served in the military and feel the need to "prove" how tough they are by always advocating for more war. To the voters of New Hampshire, please know that a vote for Haley is a vote for endless and bigger wars.

- Tulsi Gabbard


Whatever happened to her? She was a hot candidate for a hot minute. Was she the one who had her charcter assinated?

Just happy we were saved by George W keeping the panhandle of Floriday safe as a pilot (in between drinks).
8trackdisco Offline
#65 Posted:
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ZRX1200 wrote:
I’m SHOCKED that he didn’t throw his support behind Nikki!!

Would it still be Leg Humping if he had supported her, or would the statement be that he made a smart choice?


He's a high strung yip dog, who people couldn't or wouldn't trust. He was an early fave of mine after the first debate. Smart enough dude. He was trying to out Trump Trump by talking louder, faster and being equally abrasive.

Politically, he's an over stimulated 3 year old who missed a series of naps.
ZRX1200 Offline
#66 Posted:
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8 the democrats abandoned and attacked her for going off the Political Plantation of the left.

If you keep your ideals and actions in line they will circle the wagons to save you. If you fall out of line? Off to the train station.

#65 not an unreasonable position. Did he garner conversations and the transaction of ideas and beliefs? I think so. I don’t know that he’s smart and I don’t know that his heart is in what he’s spoken. I do appreciate what he did accomplish though. Also I’d say he did a better job in the debates than the moderators did vetting them.
HockeyDad Offline
#67 Posted:
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I like Vivek. He is a CEO not a politician and I work with a lot of folks like him in tech. I can see how he would be off putting to people looking for a mainstream politician. He does understand how the system is gamed.

RayR Offline
#68 Posted:
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HockeyDad wrote:
I like Vivek. He is a CEO not a politician and I work with a lot of folks like him in tech. I can see how he would be off putting to people looking for a mainstream politician. He does understand how the system is gamed.


True True...H.L. Mencken was right when he wrote, “The men the American people admire most extravagantly are the most daring liars; the men they detest most violently are those who try to tell them the truth.”

frankj1 Offline
#69 Posted:
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he was working for Trump the whole time.
Some of youse gotta get over the man crush attraction.

And he'll get nothing but kudos from the Donald until he is disloyal...not to the country, not to the Constitution, but to the Donald.
Abrignac Offline
#70 Posted:
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ZRX1200 wrote:
I’m SHOCKED that he didn’t throw his support behind Nikki!!

Would it still be Leg Humping if he had supported her, or would the statement be that he made a smart choice?


I really don’t care who he supported, currently supports or supports in the future because I don’t see one candidate on the horizon who has the balls or the ovaries to lead this country in the direction we need to go.

No candidate has shown any sincere inclination whatsoever to tackle the skyrocketing national debt. By this time tomorrow the national debt will have increased by $30+ billion dollars. Tomorrow a little bit more since interest is being capitalized. Presidential inability to submit a balanced budget which includes debt reduction and the rabid desire shared by every member of every member of Congress to send bacon to their states and individual districts is driving us towards disaster.

Members of both parties be it past Presidents, Congressional leaders and rank and file members of Congress blame each other. But, all one has to do is go back year by year and count the number of times in the past 50 years a fiscal year ended with a budget surplus and it’s easy to see that the debt increased regardless of which party controlled the White House, the Senate, the House or any combination thereof.

Both parties as well as their supporters blame each the other. But, neither the Republicans nor the Democrats have shown themselves to be fiscally conservative. The largest increase in the was over national debt under Trump climbed nearly $8.2T. That was the single largest increase during any administration both as a percentage as well as actual amount.

Can we lay that blame 100% at Trump’s feet? The answer is no. By law the President submits a budget. One would hope it would be one where revenue exceeds expenses and that shroud is used to reduce principal on the next. But that hasn’t happened in years.

Congress should then review and either passes it unchanged or not. Then send the budget bill back to the President to sign. Problem is Congress also lacks intestinal fortitude. Instead of reviewing a budget proposal and making trimming where needed to ensure a surplus that can be used to reduce principal on the debt they punt and continue to pass one continuing resolution after another which basically means day to day spending remains unchanged year after year.

Hence the dog and pony show continues obstructing our view of the ever approaching cliff. It’s beyond foolish to capitalize daily operating expenses under the false pretense that eventually a mythical David Copperfield will appear, reach into his hat and pull out a paid off debt.

Since that dog won’t hunt someone needs to step up to the plate and campaign on being willing to be brave enough to make broad across the board expenditure cuts then use the bully pulpit to call out members of both parties from the leadership down to the most junior member for the charlatans the are and daily remind them in front of the nation to do their job.

Show me someone with that sort of character and I’ll support them. Until then as far as I’m concerned everyone running is but another flea on the back of a mangy dog.

RayR Offline
#71 Posted:
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frankj1 wrote:
he was working for Trump the whole time.
Some of youse gotta get over the man crush attraction.

And he'll get nothing but kudos from the Donald until he is disloyal...not to the country, not to the Constitution, but to the Donald.


Youze guys are ridiculous with your "Leg Humping" and "man crush attraction"

Yes, it's true, "he'll get nothing but kudos from the Donald until he is disloyal", until he disagrees. I know how Trump is, I know how he has treated those in the past who don't toe the line. I'm sure Vivek already knows that, anybody who doesn't know that is a fool. LIke HD said, "He does understand how the system is gamed"
MACS Offline
#72 Posted:
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HockeyDad wrote:
I like Vivek. He is a CEO not a politician and I work with a lot of folks like him in tech. I can see how he would be off putting to people looking for a mainstream politician. He does understand how the system is gamed.



I didn't trust him, at first. Not sure I wholly do, yet... but I like him better each time he blasts the media for their BS.
HockeyDad Offline
#73 Posted:
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frankj1 wrote:
he was working for Trump the whole time.
Some of youse gotta get over the man crush attraction.

And he'll get nothing but kudos from the Donald until he is disloyal...not to the country, not to the Constitution, but to the Donald.


Do you think “man crush” adds to the conversation?
HockeyDad Offline
#74 Posted:
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MACS wrote:
I didn't trust him, at first. Not sure I wholly do, yet... but I like him better each time he blasts the media for their BS.


I totally get it. Like I said, I work with a lot of folks like him in tech. Dynamic leaders, great speakers, people that can motivate 50, 1000, 10000, 100000 employees. Some of them have turned out to be rattlesnakes. Some are brilliant.
MACS Offline
#75 Posted:
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They hate Trump... and Kari Lake says it best... they don't want him in there, because he's NOT one of them. The Republican Party chairman tried to bribe her to quit.

Disgusting.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=khZXXcmISew
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