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And Then They Came For William Penn
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RayR Offline
#1 Posted: Mon, Jan 8 2024, 8:59 PM EST
Joined: 07-20-2020
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The history NAZIS never stop. You didn't think they were going to stop their activist historical revisionism by removing historical monuments and statues of people they don't like? You didn't think they would stop renaming buildings, forbidding symbols, and desecrating cemeteries, did you?

National Park Service walks back plan to remove William Penn statue at Welcome Park in Philadelphia

By MediaNews Group and Tribune News Service
PUBLISHED: January 8, 2024 at 6:41 p.m. | UPDATED: January 8, 2024 at 6:54 p.m.

Quote:
On Monday night, the National Park Service withdrew a draft proposal to rehabilitate Welcome Park, including removing a statue of William Penn in a move that had set off an uproar earlier in the day.

The press release read, “Independence National Historical Park has withdrawn the review of a draft proposal to rehabilitate Welcome Park and closed the public comment period. The preliminary draft proposal, which was released prematurely and had not been subject to a complete internal agency review, is being retracted. No changes to the William Penn statue are planned.

“The National Park Service remains committed to rehabilitating Welcome Park as the nation prepares to commemorate the 250th anniversary of the Declaration of Independence in 2026. Upon completion of all the necessary internal reviews, the park looks forward to engaging in a robust public process to consider options for refurbishing the park in the coming years.

“The park is located on the site of William Penn’s home, the Slate Roof House, and is named for the ship, Welcome, which transported Penn to Philadelphia. The design and construction of Welcome Park was funded by the Independence Historical Trust and was completed in 1982. Updates on the project may be found on the park’s website at www.nps.gov/INDE.

The matter had become heated earlier Monday as Republican lawmakers and commenters on social media were giving the park service a rough time about the plan.

“The decision by President Biden and his administration to try and cancel William Penn out of whole cloth is another sad example of the left in this country scraping the bottom of the barrel of wokeism to advance an extreme ideology and a nonsensical view of history,” Bryan Cutler, R-Lancaster, said in a statement.

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DrMaddVibe Offline
#2 Posted: Tue, Jan 9 2024, 9:11 AM EST
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Whew.

Another reason why you never give up when you're right.

"In a statement on the plan, the NPS said the goal of the proposed renovations were intended to create "a more welcoming, accurate, and inclusive experience for visitors."

The park is not just located on the site of Penn's former home, it is also named for the ship, Welcome, which transported Penn to Philadelphia.

The design and construction of Welcome Park was funded by the Independence Historical Trust and was completed in 1982, noted the NPS in the statement.

The withdrawn plan to renovate the park, NPS officials said, was "developed in consultation with representatives of the indigenous nations of the Haudenosaunee, the Delaware Nation, Delaware Tribe of Indians, the Shawnee Tribe, and the Eastern Shawnee Tribe of Oklahoma." "

https://www.nbcphiladelphia.com/news/local/nps-withdrawals-plan-to-remove-statue-of-william-penn-from-site-of-his-philadelphia-home/3739497/

This is whom they tried to cancel:

Welcome Park

Celebrate the life of William Penn at this free open-air attraction. Walk along the large Marble Map of Penn’s original plan for the City of Philadelphia. You can also see a model of the Slate Roof House which stood on the site of Welcome Park and was where William Penn and Hannah Callowhill Penn lived. Step back in time and learn about the timeline of Penn's life and his many brave achievements.

In 1982, Welcome Park was built by the Friends of Independence National Historical Park to celebrate the 300th anniversary of the founding of Pennsylvania by William Penn, and the park is named for William Penn's ship, the Welcome. There is a statue of William Penn in the middle of Welcome Park that is a miniature of the one atop City Hall, and it was designed by Alexander Milne Calder.

Below are some quotes from William Penn that are inscribed at Welcome Park:

"By Liberty of Conscience, we understand not only a mere Liberty of the Mind, but the exercise of ourselves in a visible way of worship."

"This day my country was confirmed to me by the name of Pennsylvania. My God will I believe, bless and make it the seed of a nation."

"Any government is free to the people under it where the laws rule, and the people are a party to those laws."

William Penn

William Penn learned many lessons in life. Living in 17th Century England taught Penn that open space offered breathing places for great cities and also slowed the spread of fire. He applied what he had learned to the creation of Philadelphia. He insisted on a site that was “navigable, high, dry, and healthy.” He wanted “uniform” streets with “houses built in a line.” He envisioned “gardens, orchards, or fields” around the houses. Penn wanted “a green country town which will never be burnt, and always be wholesome.” Penn’s City Plan, drawn up by surveyor Thomas Holme, included five public squares, the center one for “houses of publick affairs” and the others as green oases carefully placed throughout the developing city.

https://www.theconstitutional.com/blog/2019/02/11/welcome-park-william-penn

Shameful.

If they can cancel him, they can cancel YOU!
RiverRatRuss Offline
#3 Posted: Tue, Jan 9 2024, 10:07 AM EST
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I recall in the early to mid 90's Disney was wanting to put a theme park out in Virgina area and Desecrate some of the Civil War Battlefields Sacred Ground... Both Northerners and Southerners came together with talk show host like G. Gordon Liddy, Rush Limbaugh and for a bit was Oliver North who during the time was running for office after the Iran/Contra fiasco... The Word Wss This.. The First Dozer Blade to go in this Sacred Ground will be the first shot fired!
drglnc Offline
#4 Posted: Tue, Jan 9 2024, 11:59 AM EST
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RiverRatRuss wrote:
I recall in the early to mid 90's Disney was wanting to put a theme park out in Virgina area and Desecrate some of the Civil War Battlefields Sacred Ground... Both Northerners and Southerners came together with talk show host like G. Gordon Liddy, Rush Limbaugh and for a bit was Oliver North who during the time was running for office after the Iran/Contra fiasco... The Word Wss This.. The First Dozer Blade to go in this Sacred Ground will be the first shot fired!


its pretty interesting that the same piece of land they wanted to "Desecrate" currently has a country club and Gold Course, Shopping centers, lots of small business and homes. wonder what those folks idea of desecration is? wonder why no "shots fired" for those dozers...
Stogie1020 Offline
#5 Posted: Tue, Jan 9 2024, 12:16 PM EST
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So this guy, what, invented the Pen? Who cares, everyone types now anyway...
RayR Offline
#6 Posted: Tue, Jan 9 2024, 12:29 PM EST
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Stogie1020 wrote:
So this guy, what, invented the Pen? Who cares, everyone types now anyway...


I heard he invented Pennsylvania or something.
Biden wants to rename it to Transylvania, for Diversity, Equity an Inclusion sake
Abrignac Offline
#7 Posted: Tue, Jan 9 2024, 12:58 PM EST
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RiverRatRuss wrote:
I recall in the early to mid 90's Disney was wanting to put a theme park out in Virgina area and Desecrate some of the Civil War Battlefields Sacred Ground... Both Northerners and Southerners came together with talk show host like G. Gordon Liddy, Rush Limbaugh and for a bit was Oliver North who during the time was running for office after the Iran/Contra fiasco... The Word Wss This.. The First Dozer Blade to go in this Sacred Ground will be the first shot fired!



I think you're a bit confused. During this controversy, I lived in Falmouth, VA about 5 miles away from the area in question. As such, I have direct knowledge of the controversy.

The area is known as Ferry Farm, George Washington's childhood home. Walmart wanted to buy the property and build a Super Walmart. The community came together and fought it. Btw, drglnc I think you're thinking of Central Park. It's actually on the opposite side of Fredericksburg away from Ferry Farm. That is a massive retail area and does have a relatively new golf course. But it's not on the "hollowed" grounds Russ is referring to.

The homeowners didn't want it because that area was and still is 98.2% residential. The residents had a very specific reason for not wanting Walmart there. What most people fail to realize is that Fredericksburg, VA is a Washington DC bedroom community. Most of the people who live there commute back and forth on I-95 an hour and a half each way to Washington DC for work. To them that area is a nice quiet respite from the big city BS they deal with every day. As far as they were concerned, a Walmart in the neighborhood would have been an intrusion into that peacefulness.

Since the store would have been less than a mile or so from what's known as Old Town Fredericksburg, the local merchants didn't want it either. You see Old Town is one of the few places that still has what's often referred to as "Mainstreet USA". On the weekends you'll find many residents strolling the many streets shopping at any one of dozens upon dozens of small specialty shops ranging from upscale women's clothing to stationary stores, a butcher's shop and many others. Or enjoying a restful moment sitting at a table on one of the sidewalks outside a coffee shop or small restaurant enjoying a relaxing afternoon. Again, a welcome respite from the daily grind during the week. The fear was that Walmart would move in and kill Old Town Fredericksburg just like it has so many other small town mercantile centers.
drglnc Offline
#8 Posted: Tue, Jan 9 2024, 2:37 PM EST
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Abrignac wrote:
I think you're a bit confused. During this controversy, I lived in Falmouth, VA about 5 miles away from the area in question. As such, I have direct knowledge of the controversy.

The area is known as Ferry Farm, George Washington's childhood home. Walmart wanted to buy the property and build a Super Walmart. The community came together and fought it. Btw, drglnc I think you're thinking of Central Park. It's actually on the opposite side of Fredericksburg away from Ferry Farm. That is a massive retail area and does have a relatively new golf course. But it's not on the "hollowed" grounds Russ is referring to.

The homeowners didn't want it because that area was and still is 98.2% residential. The residents had a very specific reason for not wanting Walmart there. What most people fail to realize is that Fredericksburg, VA is a Washington DC bedroom community. Most of the people who live there commute back and forth on I-95 an hour and a half each way to Washington DC for work. To them that area is a nice quiet respite from the big city BS they deal with every day. As far as they were concerned, a Walmart in the neighborhood would have been an intrusion into that peacefulness.

Since the store would have been less than a mile or so from what's known as Old Town Fredericksburg, the local merchants didn't want it either. You see Old Town is one of the few places that still has what's often referred to as "Mainstreet USA". On the weekends you'll find many residents strolling the many streets shopping at any one of dozens upon dozens of small specialty shops ranging from upscale women's clothing to stationary stores, a butcher's shop and many others. Or enjoying a restful moment sitting at a table on one of the sidewalks outside a coffee shop or small restaurant enjoying a relaxing afternoon. Again, a welcome respite from the daily grind during the week. The fear was that Walmart would move in and kill Old Town Fredericksburg just like it has so many other small town mercantile centers.



i assumed he was talking about Disney America which to my knowledge was slated to go near Haymarket, about 30 miles from Manassas? the patch north east when 15 and 66 intersect
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