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The cooler experiment
Mraia Offline
#1 Posted:
Joined: 04-18-2019
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I placed a few of my tupperdores into a new Coleman 70qt cooler with one ice pack in a ziploc and a few 65% Bovedas in each sealed tupperdore. Trying to control the heat as the summer has been wreaking havoc with the tupperdore temps. Beetles and mold are the concerns.
Needless to say it’s working beautifully. Temps holding at around 67 and rh at about 66
I would prefer that the Needone worked out better cause it looks cool but the slight condensation is a no-go.
Oh well. Thanks for all the great advice folks!
Palama Offline
#2 Posted:
Joined: 02-05-2013
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Iffin’ you don’t already, might wanna be proactive and freeze all incoming cigars. Heck, iffin’ you have the freezer space, go retro and freeze your existing inventory too!
Mraia Offline
#3 Posted:
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Yeah that’s a good idea. Can I ask how long to keep them in there?
Palama Offline
#4 Posted:
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Mraia wrote:
Yeah that’s a good idea. Can I ask how long to keep them in there?


I do 3 days in the refridge, 4 days in the freezer then 3 days back in the refridge.

As far as the freezing goes, some people do it for 3 days but while doing the research, I came across an article by some scientific guy that said consumer freezers don't go low enough to kill beetle eggs in just 3 days. He said 4 days was the minimum needed. Seemed to make sense so I've opt for the longer freezer time.
Mraia Offline
#5 Posted:
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Sounds good to me. I’m on it !
rfenst Offline
#6 Posted:
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Palama wrote:
I do 3 days in the refridge, 4 days in the freezer then 3 days back in the refridge.

As far as the freezing goes, some people do it for 3 days but while doing the research, I came across an article by some scientific guy that said consumer freezers don't go low enough to kill beetle eggs in just 3 days. He said 4 days was the minimum needed. Seemed to make sense so I've opt for the longer freezer time.

I have read the same article and go 5 days- just to be sure. If they aren't frozen enough for long enough, you might not kill them and they become more cold-tolerant. Never fooled around with refrigerator. I simply wrap the box multiple times with saran wrap to seal in the moisture. After five days I take them out and let them come up to room temp with the saran wrap on to prevent moisture loss. Then, I let them rest a few days in the humidor. That's all their is too it. I cannot discern any difference in my cigars as a result of freezing.
Palama Offline
#7 Posted:
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rfenst wrote:
I have read the same article and go 5 days- just to be sure. If they aren't frozen enough for long enough, you might not kill them and they become more cold-tolerant. Never fooled around with refrigerator. I simply wrap the box multiple times with saran wrap to seal in the moisture. After five days I take them out and let them come up to room temp with the saran wrap on to prevent moisture loss. Then, I let them rest a few days in the humidor. That's all their is too it. I cannot discern any difference in my cigars as a result of freezing.


Haha! Sometimes I conveniently “forget” and leave them in that extra day too. Like you said, just to be sure. I do the refrigerator staging to acclimate the cigars from room temperature to cool to freezing and then back again. Akin to the 4 seasons. Fall helps you adjust to the upcoming Winter and then Spring for Summer. Well, these days with the extreme temperature changes, kinda, sorta helps with adjusting.
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