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It's Time to Reflect on FAKE HOLIDAYS
RayR Offline
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We are in the midst of one of those FAKE HOLIDAYS which some Americans will celebrate as Juneteenth, which they say marks the day when the last enslaved people in the United States learned they were free. Of course, that's not true but why let the truth get in the way of a celebration, RIGHT? Chattel slavery was actually abolished on Dec. 6, 1865, when the 13th Amendment was ratified by the States, but that's not a good date for many parts of the republic weatherwise for barbeques, parades, outdoor speeches, and stuff, and naturally, that's the Christmas season which gets in the way.

I know...I know, they'll say if you call it a fake holiday, yer probably a racist.

Doug Casey on the Rising Number of Fake Holidays

by Doug Casey

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International Man: Let’s start with the basics.

What are holidays, and why are they important to a culture or country?

Doug Casey: The word “holiday” actually comes from “holy day”; it has a religious derivation. Once upon a time, I’d say as recently as the 1950’s, religion played a very important role in Western culture. It no longer does. Christianity is a dead duck in Europe, and fading rapidly in North America. Much as it replaced classical religions starting in the late Roman Empire, Christianity is being replaced by Wokism/Greenism.

Our holidays, until recently, were still about shared values and shared traditions. They were an acknowledgment of common beliefs, a celebration of what was important among the people of a country or a culture.

But that’s no longer the case. The meaning of holidays, as with so many things, has degraded.

International Man: Marketing agencies are responsible for most consumer-themed holidays, which aim to get people to buy stuff they don’t need.

It started with Mother’s Day and Valentine’s Day, but now there seems to be a holiday for everything.

There is National Tequila Day, National Donut Day, Amazon Prime Day, and countless others.

What’s your take on this?

Doug Casey: Previously, people limited work during holidays. They were celebrations. Sure, there were sales of food, drink, and things necessary for the celebration. But in the past selling was just a consequence, a necessary adjunct of the holiday.

Today, selling has become the essence of the holiday. Christmas used to have a real religious essence, but it’s devolved into little more than a time for intensive marketing and competitive gift giving.

One of the very few good things about the giant amount of debt in society, and the unfolding Greater Depression, is that the promiscuous consumption centering around holidays will drop. People are likely to reorient towards more basic values as times get tough.

The fact that so many holidays have gotten a seal of approval and made “official” by the government is another sign that fascist values have overcome the West. Fascism, you’ll recall, doesn’t necessarily have anything to do with violence and black uniforms. It’s simply the melding of big business and government. They support each other, and prosperous big business means more tax revenue for the State. It’s exactly what Mussolini, who coined the word “fascism”, intended.

International Man: Identity politics has been a big factor in the surge of new holidays as politicians seek to cater to certain groups.

Juneteenth is a newly declared federal holiday.

Columbus Day has been re-branded as Indigenous Peoples’ Day.

President Clinton gave the first presidential declaration marking Kwanzaa.

We now have Pride month for those with sexual deviations, February is dedicated to black history, and November is dedicated to Native Americans, and so forth.

It seems there is now a day, a week, or a month for every group.

What is going on here?

Read more...

https://internationalman.com/articles/doug-casey-on-the-rising-number-of-fake-holidays/

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Racist... Mellow
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We should have more holidays!

4 day work weeks and more Federal holidays like Election Day, and Super Bowl Monday. These are a few of the holidays I would use the bully pulpit for if you; the American public elect me for POTUS. That's why today, I'm putting my name in the hat and choosing to run for office. With your help we can move forward with a sensible approach towards the steadily rising power grab from Washington DC and reduce the overreach of government.


LOLZ! I can hear the presstitutes now.
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I think Juneteenth is a great holiday for those whose families were enslaved and freed. That is something to celebrate. And, what or who is a day off going to hurt?
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rfenst wrote:
I think Juneteenth is a great holiday for those whose families were enslaved and freed. That is something to celebrate. And, what or who is a day off going to hurt?


I get Juneteenth as a paid holiday!
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I want January 6 as a paid holiday.
RayR Offline
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HockeyDad wrote:
I want January 6 as a paid holiday.


What name should they call it HD?
RayR Offline
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rfenst wrote:
I think Juneteenth is a great holiday for those whose families were enslaved and freed. That is something to celebrate. And, what or who is a day off going to hurt?


On June 19, 1865, Major General Gordon Granger arrived at Galveston and immediately issued General Orders No. 3, declaring,

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The people of Texas are informed that, in accordance with a proclamation from the Executive of the United States, all slaves are free. This involves an absolute equality of personal rights and rights of property between former masters and slaves, and the connection heretofore existing between them becomes that between employer and hired labor. The freedmen are advised to remain quietly at their present homes and work for wages. They are informed that they will not be allowed to collect at military posts and that they will not be supported in idleness either there or elsewhere.


I like real historical holidays, not feel-good holidays pandering to politically useful interest groups for votes. The only decedents of slaves that could possibly celebrate their ancestors emancipation were those slaves in Texas. Even then, they were told to stay where they were and work for their former masters because the Union Army wasn't going to help them. It's like Lincoln told Alexander Stephens in February, 1865 at the Hampton Roads Peace Conference when Stephens asked Lincoln what his plans were for freed slaves. He replied to Stephens, “Let them root hog or die”. That wasn't a very nice thing to say since Lincoln's invasion of the Confederate States and the scorched earth war tactics he supported were responsible for the former slave's plight.
According to Professor Downs of Connecticut College, in his book Dying for Freedom, approximately 1 million black southerners, one out of four, died from 1862-1870 of war violence, disease, and starvation.


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RayR wrote:
What name should they call it HD?


Independence Day: Resurgence
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I D.O.N.T. CELEBRATE ANY freakin' "holiday" that was created after 1960 !!!

DATS' RIIIIIGGGGGHHHHTTTTT!!!!

JUST LIKE PASTOR GENO JENNINGS REPEATER SIDE KICK SAY....

NUTTIN AFTER NINETEEN SIXTY
IN MY BOOK!!!

SCREW the NEW HOLIDAYS !!

GRANDPARENTS DAY?
Fuuuuuu#####k Noooooooo
Hallmark B.S. to buy more cards...
F##k it!!!

Kawanza???Kwanzaa????
Blow me !!! And Bite Me !!!!

M.L.K. day... NO WAY !!!
He was a decent guy with a good cause but he banged anything that moved except his wife ...ALLeDgEdLy

Juneteenth...not even on my radar...
Very very bad event/ occurrence...I get the guilt...
National holiday???
I'm retired, I don't stop dumpster diving, trash picking, metal recycling for nobody...I need $$$$...not a holiday fo' me...

Any other post 1960 NEW HOLIDAYS?

IM SURE I MISSED A FEW?
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RayR wrote:
On June 19, 1865, Major General Gordon Granger arrived at Galveston and immediately issued General Orders No. 3, declaring,



I like real historical holidays, not feel-good holidays pandering to politically useful interest groups for votes. The only decedents of slaves that could possibly celebrate their ancestors emancipation were those slaves in Texas. Even then, they were told to stay where they were and work for their former masters because the Union Army wasn't going to help them. It's like Lincoln told Alexander Stephens in February, 1865 at the Hampton Roads Peace Conference when Stephens asked Lincoln what his plans were for freed slaves. He replied to Stephens, “Let them root hog or die”. That wasn't a very nice thing to say since Lincoln's invasion of the Confederate States and the scorched earth war tactics he supported were responsible for the former slave's plight.
According to Professor Downs of Connecticut College, in his book Dying for Freedom, approximately 1 million black southerners, one out of four, died from 1862-1870 of war violence, disease, and starvation.



sometimes you just don't get what you want.
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Ray the Holiday Whisperer. Who would have thought?
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Abrignac wrote:
Ray the Holiday Whisperer. Who would have thought?

oh, that reminds me...Happy Fathers' Day, Anth.

when ya swinging through Greater Boston again?
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frankj1 wrote:
sometimes you just don't get what you want.


But will we get what we need? Think
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got a song in my head for Fathers' Day now...
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frankj1 wrote:
oh, that reminds me...Happy Fathers' Day, Anth.

when ya swinging through Greater Boston again?


Hard to say. But, you’ll be the first person I tell.
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very cool
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Palama wrote:
But will we get what we need? Think



If you try sometime.
RayR Offline
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frankj1 wrote:
oh, that reminds me...Happy Fathers' Day, Anth.

when ya swinging through Greater Boston again?


What is a "father"? What is a "woman"? It's so complicated these days, ain't it? Confused
So you and Abrignac are SWINGERS?
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HockeyDad wrote:
Independence Day: Resurgence


OK, I like it HD!

They should make a Hollywood blockbuster movie about it.
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RayR wrote:
What is a "father"? What is a "woman"? It's so complicated these days, ain't it? Confused
So you and Abrignac are SWINGERS?


Are you jealous Ray? Do you want some of Frank’s tripod?
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Abrignac wrote:
Are you jealous Ray? Do you want some of Frank’s tripod?


No..No..No...I was just wondering. But thanks for verifying my suspicions.
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RayR wrote:
On June 19, 1865, Major General Gordon Granger arrived at Galveston and immediately issued General Orders No. 3, declaring,



I like real historical holidays, not feel-good holidays pandering to politically useful interest groups for votes. The only decedents of slaves that could possibly celebrate their ancestors emancipation were those slaves in Texas. Even then, they were told to stay where they were and work for their former masters because the Union Army wasn't going to help them. It's like Lincoln told Alexander Stephens in February, 1865 at the Hampton Roads Peace Conference when Stephens asked Lincoln what his plans were for freed slaves. He replied to Stephens, “Let them root hog or die”. That wasn't a very nice thing to say since Lincoln's invasion of the Confederate States and the scorched earth war tactics he supported were responsible for the former slave's plight.
According to Professor Downs of Connecticut College, in his book Dying for Freedom, approximately 1 million black southerners, one out of four, died from 1862-1870 of war violence, disease, and starvation.


It should not be limited to just Texas descendants because everyone is celebrating the human right to the end of black slavery in America. T
he date: So what if it is arbitrary? Got a better one to suggest?

My people were slave for almost 400 years and we joyfully celebrate our freedom annually- and have the upmost respect for other people's celebration of relief from bondage as well.

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No..No..No...I was just wondering. But thanks for verifying my suspicions.


Your suspicions? So you concern yourself with other people’s private lives?
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Abrignac wrote:
Your suspicions? So you concern yourself with other people’s private lives?


C'Mon Man! I've heard that everybody wants to know what Frankie Tripod is up to?
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RayR wrote:
C'Mon Man! I've heard that everybody wants to know what Frankie Tripod is up to?

up to about 254...doctor is gonna holler at me Tuesday
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RayR wrote:
C'Mon Man! I've heard that everybody wants to know what Frankie Tripod is up to?


Among your many claims one is that you are Libertarian. Unless you’re lying you shouldn’t GAF what he is up to.
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frankj1 wrote:
up to about 254...doctor is gonna holler at me Tuesday


Don’t go to the doctor.

Modern problems require modern solutions.
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HockeyDad wrote:
Don’t go to the doctor.

Modern problems require modern solutions.

are you suggesting cool sculpting?
RayR Offline
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frankj1 wrote:
are you suggesting cool sculpting?


Or Liposuction.
frankj1 Offline
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please tell me your nickname isn't Lip
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Frank, tell your doctor to not make fun of your BMI. The AMA says it's RACSIST.
On another note, they are perfectly OK with chemical castration and chopping off genitals.

American Medical Association says BMI metric caused 'historical harm' by being used for 'racist exclusion,' vows to protect 'gender-affirming care' for transgenders

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In the past week, the American Medical Association claimed that the body mass index metric has caused "historical harm" by being used for "racist exclusion" and has vowed to protect "gender-affirming care" for transgenders.

The American Medical Association, which was founded in 1847, is a lobbying group for more than 270,000 physicians and medical students. The New Yorker noted in 2022, "Since 1998, the A.M.A. has spent $462 million on lobbying, an amount exceeded only by the expenditures of the U.S. Chamber of Commerce, the National Association of Realtors, and the American Hospital Association."

On June 14, the AMA published a paper titled: "Use of BMI alone is an imperfect clinical measure." The AMA said, "But BMI is an imperfect measure because it does not directly assess body fat."

https://www.theblaze.com/news/american-medical-association-bmi-racist
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What defines a holiday as fake or real?
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I think there has to be related cartoons and stuff... Mellow
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Speyside2 wrote:
What defines a holiday as fake or real?


It’s real if I get it as a paid day off.
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Will somebody explain to Spey what a fake holiday is? He doesn't read too good.
I could give him an example such as this by a solid American NOT-COMMIE historian Brion McClanahan describing the new federal holiday of Juneteenth. Would he understand how fake this holiday is? He'd probably say Meh!

McClanahan describes the new federal holiday of Juneteenth. He writes:

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Hereditary slavery did not end in the United States until December 6, 1865, the ratification date of the 13th Amendment. Slave auctions continued in Kentucky through November 1865, five months after slavery supposedly ended on June 19th, 1865. If the last slaves were told they were free on June 19th, then what about slaves sold into slavery AFTER that point? Would be news to them. Delaware, Kentucky, and New Jersey (all slave States in 1865) rejected the 13th Amendment to the Constitution, and slavery was legal in each State until December, six months after June 19th, 1865. By the way, Delaware, Kentucky, and New Jersey were technically all UNION States during the War, though Kentucky was a special case and could be considered a Confederate State as well. Only Mississippi rejected the 13th Amendment from the former Confederate States. That means THREE Union States and only one Confederate State rejected the amendment that ended slavery after the War. So much for the theory that the Union fought the war to free the slaves, even after Lincoln issued the Emancipation Proclamation in 1863.
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frankj1 wrote:
up to about 254...doctor is gonna holler at me Tuesday

Ozempic for off-label weight loss?
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rfenst wrote:
Ozempic for off-label weight loss?

or maybe less stress eating
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TW whacks it when he's stressed.. or so I heard... Mellow
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and then he cries
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True..true... Mellow
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If you looked at his light switch you would too.
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Doctors office visits are like ex wives Frank. They poke you, prod you, constantly ask questions, take your money, and you eventually leave.
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Crimaneeee frankie!!!!

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As long as I get St Patrick's Day as a paid holiday I don't give a schit
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Whistlebritches wrote:
As long as I get St Patrick's Day as a paid holiday I don't give a schit


No chit. Priorities are priorities.
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I heard St Patrick's Day was a white supremacist holiday.
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every day has significance to someone... calling something national whatever day doesn't make it a holiday, just a recognition of that arbitrary thing... if we are going to get rid of "Real" Holidays we should probably start with the oldest fake ones... Christmas, Easter and Columbus day come to mind off the top of my head...

Election day should 100% be a federal Holiday.
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You say Christmas, Easter and Columbus Day are FAKE HOLIDAYS? Are you one of those JACOBINS? ram27bat

I thought ELECTION DAY was replaced by VOTE EARLY VOTE OFTEN MONTH.
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drglnc wrote:
every day has significance to someone... calling something national whatever day doesn't make it a holiday, just a recognition of that arbitrary thing... if we are going to get rid of "Real" Holidays we should probably start with the oldest fake ones... Christmas, Easter and Columbus day come to mind off the top of my head...

Election day should 100% be a federal Holiday.


I can't disagree with this. Christmas is not a celebration of Christ's birthday. He wasn't born in December and trees and presents were added to convert pagans. Easter... the death and resurrection are a thing. Painted eggs and chocolate bunnies? Again... lets get the pagans on board. Columbus didn't discover sh*t. It was already here and the Spanish landed on St Augustine before Columbus discovered New England by a long shot.
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