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State Of New York Vs. Donald J Trump
Brewha Offline
#1 Posted:
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Thirty Four Felony Counts

- Seems Don has been a bit naughty!

All 34 counts are "FALSIFYING BUSINESS RECORDS IN THE FIRST DEGREE"

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald-trump/trump-indictment-full-text-read-court-document-rcna78051
(Thank you Mr. Fenst)

However a convicted felon can still be elected President. So make the donations TONIGHT!
DrafterX Offline
#2 Posted:
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He was just being a little careless... Mellow
corey sellers Offline
#3 Posted:
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He wanted to be caught good publicity
BuckyB93 Offline
#4 Posted:
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98.2% of the folks working on Capitol Hill are felons that have not been tried.

Let's face it, this is a political stunt from one side that will amount to nothing other than fodder for the mass media to talk about.

Sadly, the Dems want to vilify Trump and use him and the headlines to deflect things. Not sure, in the long run, it's a good move. Keeping him in the headlines will probably backfire.
Abrignac Offline
#5 Posted:
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Brewha wrote:
Thirty Four Felony Counts

- Seems Don has been a bit naughty!

All 34 counts are "FALSIFYING BUSINESS RECORDS IN THE FIRST DEGREE"

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald-trump/trump-indictment-full-text-read-court-document-rcna78051
(Thank you Mr. Fenst)

However a convicted felon can still be elected President. So make the donations TONIGHT!


I wouldn’t be jumping for joy just yet. Supposedly the crime that Trump was covering up was that he made the entries to influence an election. Problem is the election took place before, not after the entries were made. An inconvenient truth, but who really cares. Damn the torpedoes. Full steam ahead.
ZRX1200 Offline
#6 Posted:
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I think you underestimate how invested the left is in this.
DrMaddVibe Offline
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Irony Alert: Judge Ordered Stormy to Pay Trump $121K Today


As Trump was arraigned in Manhattan, a separate federal court ruled the actress owed the former president for legal fees

The fallout from Donald Trump’s alleged affair with Stormy Daniels landed him in court on Tuesday — but stuck her with a hefty bill.

A federal appeals court has ordered Daniels to pay Trump’s lawyers over $121,000 in legal fees stemming from her failed defamation suit against the former president.

The former adult film star filed the suit alleging that Trump had defamed her by publicly ridiculing her allegation that an unknown man threatened her and her daughter over an abandoned In Touch Magazine story about what she claimed was a 2006 affair with Trump during a celebrity golf tournament.

Daniels claimed that shortly after she began cooperating with the magazine, an unnamed man had approached her saying “Leave Trump alone. Forget the story” and “That’s a beautiful little girl. It’d be a shame if something happened to her mom,” in reference to her infant daughter.

President Trump ridiculed Daniels’ claims in a 2018 tweet, claiming that it was “A sketch years later about a nonexistent man” and “A total can job,” prompting the defamation suit.

A court dismissed the case and ruled that Trump’s tweet constituted “rhetorical hyperbole,” and ordered Daniels to pay Trump’s legal fees under a statute intended to curb so-called strategic lawsuits against public participation.

Daniels and Trump have repeatedly clashed in court over whether she owed Trump attorneys fees and, most recently, how much she owed.

Daniels had earlier told NBC News earlier that she would “go to jail before I pay a penny” and blamed her former attorney, Michael Avenatti, for allegedly filing the suit against her will. Avenatti was sentenced to 14 years in prison last year for stealing money from clients and tax fraud.

In a decision handed down Tuesday, the 9th Circuit brushed aside Daniels’ challenge to the staffing and fees charged by the Dhillon Law Group, which represented Trump, calling them reasonable.

On Truth Social, Trump’s sons Eric and Don Jr. both cheered the ruling.

https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-features/stormy-daniels-donald-trump-legal-fees-1234709641/


Get back on the pole Stormy!

130K-121K=Frying pan whip Frying pan
RiverRatRuss Offline
#8 Posted:
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I told the bartender todays Beer should be on You...

He's a diehard Trumper... and it was named "The Day of the DON" BwaaaHaaa!!! Herfing
Brewha Offline
#9 Posted:
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Abrignac wrote:
I wouldn’t be jumping for joy just yet. Supposedly the crime that Trump was covering up was that he made the entries to influence an election. Problem is the election took place before, not after the entries were made. An inconvenient truth, but who really cares. Damn the torpedoes. Full steam ahead.


So, right and proper, he get his day in court.
RiverRatRuss Offline
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Brewha wrote:
So, right and proper, he get his day in court.


I'm still waiting for Hillary's day in court and Bill with the Clinton Foundation and Haitti's crisis assistance? Hunter Bidens Sueing of the computer company that leaked the info he wasn't involved in and Joe's day before Senate Hearings on Classified Documents laying around at 3-4 different locations Not Secured in a Safe like Trumps were upon the Mar'Largo Raid...


I'm just waiting for the Fair and Justice for ALL!!! Herfing
Brewha Offline
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BuckyB93 wrote:


Sadly, the Dems want to vilify Trump and use him and the headlines to deflect things. Not sure, in the long run, it's a good move. Keeping him in the headlines will probably backfire.


Point well taken.

Look at what Trumps' base love about him; He is a rule breaker, outspoken, rude, racist and hated by many Americans who do not agree with the far Right agenda. And the MAGA crowd love him for it.

Even if convicted as a felon he can still be re-elected.
And his base will see conviction as a merit badge - and he will sell it as the Purple Heart he got "protecting America".

Brewha Offline
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RiverRatRuss wrote:
I'm still waiting for Hillary's day in court and Bill with the Clinton Foundation and Haitti's crisis assistance? Hunter Bidens Sueing of the computer company that leaked the info he wasn't involved in and Joe's day before Senate Hearings on Classified Documents laying around at 3-4 different locations Not Secured in a Safe like Trumps were upon the Mar'Largo Raid...


I'm just waiting for the Fair and Justice for ALL!!! Herfing


I know, I know - poor Don Crying
ZRX1200 Offline
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Yeah Cheeto should have used campaign money and gotten help from the RNC for payment like Hilldog did. When it was a fined misdemeanor and not past the SOL.
BuckyB93 Offline
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I'm as tired of Trump as much as anyone but the Dems keep kicking the hornet's nest. By continually dredging up some trumped up charges on the guy only keeps him in the headlines (which he loves) and opens up opportunities and sets a precedent for the Reps to so the same.

EVERYONE on Capital Hill has skeletons in the closet and have bent, if not broken the rules along the way. The charges he's being accused of are a misdemeanor, but the zealous NY DA wants to force feed them into a felony. I'm not a lawyer but from reading it seems pretty weak but it makes headlines.

Be careful for what you ask for. The current administration is ripe for the pickings for $hit more serious than these rather benign charges that Trump is being accused of.

Exhibit #1: Hunter Biden, his cohorts and the puddle of a President we have sleeping in the White House tonight.
rfenst Offline
#15 Posted:
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You may not like the source, but this is a straight forward, pretty unbiased, thorough and quick explanation of the legal issues:


Five Take aways from the Trump Indictment in New York
How a misdemeanor — falsifying business records — was elevated to 34 felony charges

WAPO

Former president Donald Trump appeared in a courtroom in Lower Manhattan on Tuesday where he pleaded not guilty to 34 felony counts brought by a grand jury last week.

The appearance was the culmination of enormous speculation and media attention that followed him from his home in Mar-a-Lago to Trump Tower in New York and then to the courtroom. In the end, the new revelations that emerged from the release of the charges were incremental, but important. Below, five takeaways from the indictment and arraignment.


1. The 34 charges center on how payments to attorney Michael Cohen were recorded — at 34 different times.
The indictment centers on the previously reported effort in 2016 to bury a story alleging an extramarital relationship between Trump and adult-film actress Stormy Daniels. That effort involved a payment of $130,000 to Daniels paid by Michael Cohen, then Trump’s attorney.

A statement of facts released by the office of Manhattan District Attorney Alvin Bragg details the prosecutors’ case. Cohen, it alleges, agreed in consultation with Trump and Trump Organization Chief Financial Officer Allen Weisselberg that the attorney should receive $420,000 in reimbursement, a sum including enough for Cohen to offset the increase in federal income tax he would need to pay.

According to the statement, this total was allegedly recorded on a bank statement (suggesting documentary evidence) and agreed to by Trump himself in an Oval Office meeting with Cohen. The sum was then repaid in a series of monthly checks that were allegedly recorded by the Trump Organization as being a monthly retainer for Cohen.

That’s where the 34 charges accrue. There were 11 payments, in each month from February 2017 to December 2017. Each payment was recorded on the check and in ledgers as a retainer payment, despite the alleged lack of a legitimate retainer agreement.

Falsification of business records in the second degree is a misdemeanor charge. If, however, the falsification is meant to cover up some other criminal act, it becomes a felony. That’s what Bragg’s office alleges happened.


2. The grand jury elevated the charges to a felony based on the illegality of the payments.
It’s here that the details of the payments really matter. In its statement of facts, Bragg’s office outlines how Cohen and David Pecker, the former CEO of American Media, Inc. (AMI), allegedly worked with Trump to orchestrate payments to multiple parties. That included Daniels, former Playboy model Karen McDougal (who received a payment of $150,000 from AMI, the publisher of the National Enquirer) and a $30,000 payment from AMI to a Trump Tower doorman that was reported by the New Yorker in 2018.

In the abstract, a company like AMI paying McDougal or the doorman to bury their stories is legal. If they want to sell the rights to a private company, they may do so. But these payments, Bragg’s office alleges, violated the law and, therefore, warranted felony falsification charges.

Bragg explained the two predicates for that argument in a news conference on Tuesday afternoon.

“The first is New York state election law, which makes it a crime to conspire to promote a candidacy by unlawful means,” he said. “I further indicated a number of unlawful means, including additional false statements, including statements that were planned to be made to tax authorities. I also noted the federal election-law cap on contribution limits.”

The state charge, as The Washington Post wrote in January, appears to focus on a statute that makes it illegal to “conspire to promote or prevent the election of any person to a public office by unlawful means.”

The federal crime is less vague. If the payments were intended to keep negative stories from coming out before the 2016 election, then the payments were political spending. And if they were political spending from a candidate or an agent of the candidate’s campaign, they are subject to contribution limits and reporting requirements. These payments, obviously, weren’t reported. The legal question, then, centers on whether the payments were aimed at influencing the election.

The statement of facts gets at that. It notes that while Trump was never charged with either a state or federal crime, Cohen pleaded guilty to charges related to both the McDougal and Daniels payments. It also notes that AMI admitted to federal prosecutors that it participated in an effort to influence the election by making its payments.

That said, this is relatively novel terrain. Perhaps with that in mind, the documents make an effort to demonstrate why state or federal charges could have been filed.


3. Prosecutors allege evidence explicitly demonstrating that Trump knew the payments were focused on the election.
Cohen had previously implicated Trump in the effort when he offered his guilty plea, but, since there were never charges filed against Trump, there was no evidence presented to prove that Trump knew that the intent was to boost his 2016 bid. One of the most telling aspects of the statement of facts — arguments that will need to be proved in court — is that it ties Trump into all of these.

For example, it was understood that Cohen (identified as “Lawyer A”) dragged his feet in paying Daniels (“Woman 2”) after her story was conveyed to Trump’s team by AMI. The document released Tuesday links that to Trump.

“The Defendant directed Lawyer A to delay making a payment to Woman 2 as long as possible,” it reads. “He instructed Lawyer A that if they could delay the payment until after the election, they could avoid paying altogether, because at that point it would not matter if the story became public.”

At another point, it references a conversation Trump and Cohen had about buying the McDougal story from AMI. That conversation was recorded and published in 2018 and made obvious that Trump’s electoral viability was a focus.


4. Trump allegedly thanked David Pecker for aiding his campaign.
It’s been understood for some time that Pecker and AMI aimed to help Trump’s campaign. The statement of facts published on Tuesday begins in August 2015, the point at which Pecker reportedly first reached out to Trump and Cohen about his willingness to buy and bury negative stories.

“Between Election Day and Inauguration Day, during the period of the Defendant’s transition to his role as President, the Defendant met with the AMI CEO privately in Trump Tower in Manhattan,” the statement of facts alleges. “The Defendant thanked the AMI CEO for handling the stories of the Doorman and Woman 1, and invited the AMI CEO to the Inauguration. In the summer of 2017, the Defendant invited the AMI CEO to the White House for a dinner to thank him for his help during the campaign.”

This presumably came from Pecker himself, who testified before the grand jury that indicted Trump. It reinforces the idea that Trump understood the payments to be related to the campaign.


5. In court, Trump was warned about his public comments on the case.
At the arraignment itself, lawyers and New York Supreme Court Justice Juan Merchan discussed Trump’s public rhetoric about the case, which has already included enthusiastic disparagement of the criminal charges and Bragg.

“Please refrain from making statements that are likely to incite violence or civil unrest …” Merchan said, “making comments that have potential to incite violence, create civil unrest or jeopardize the state or well-being of any individuals.”

No gag order was put in place but there is relevant precedent from Trump’s circle. In 2019, a federal judge barred Trump ally Roger Stone from social media after he posted incendiary attacks as he was facing trial.
frankj1 Offline
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nice to read an unemotional breakdown.
DrafterX Offline
#17 Posted:
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I heard Dr Jill asked Joe to invite Bragg to da Whitehouse... Mellow
DrMaddVibe Offline
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DrafterX wrote:
I heard Dr Jill asked Joe to invite Bragg to da Whitehouse... Mellow



Only champions get invited, but Dr Jill was confused and wanted all DA's to visit.
RayR Offline
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“There's no way to rule innocent men. The only power any government has is the power to crack down on criminals. Well, when there aren't enough criminals, one makes them. One declares so many things to be a crime that it becomes impossible for men to live without breaking laws.”
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The state charge, as The Washington Post wrote in January, appears to focus on a statute that makes it illegal to “conspire to promote or prevent the election of any person to a public office by unlawful means.”

So isn't this exactly what Hillary did with the Russian Files she provided prior to the 2016 election? I'll hold my breath till DA Bragg empanels a grand jury..

Brewha Offline
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I'm thinking Trump has got to laughing about this all the way to the bank. His base is coughing up millions to help him "save America".
Burner02 Offline
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Just another example of the left trying to win at all costs. Never mind right or wrong, win at all costs has been the left's common theme for the past 14 plus years.

Everything in play to keep Trump from running in 2024.
ZRX1200 Offline
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Burner it’s called war, and they’ve been doing so for a while.

Don’t vote Republican, don’t EVER vote Democrat.
MACS Offline
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Huh... paying a woman to stay silent about an adulterous affair is apparently worse than lying about it to congress.

Absolutely a case of prosecuting the political opposition. Anyone who can't see it is blind. Dangerous precedent to set. Kinda makes us look a lot like a communist country.
8trackdisco Offline
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Guess I’m confused.

If I’m paying a porn star, it would be for her to OPEN her mouth.
frankj1 Offline
#26 Posted:
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MACS wrote:
Huh... paying a woman to stay silent about an adulterous affair is apparently worse than lying about it to congress.

Absolutely a case of prosecuting the political opposition. Anyone who can't see it is blind. Dangerous precedent to set. Kinda makes us look a lot like a communist country.

welcome back!

Shawn, you made two statements that kinda connected together in my mind...

the act of paying for silence (hush money) is not a crime, nor is it what the charges are though the payoff did birth the allegedly illegal steps that followed. There is a logical timeline that followed the hush money payoff directly to what is alleged to be illegal financial activity...at least it is all directly connected...it's not like something totally unrelated to the act(s) were dragged out of thin air. Guilty or not, it's all part of the original act.

the connection to the warning of a dangerous precedent of prosecuting the opposition relates directly to the lying, ironically,...under oath by the way...about an adulterous affair.

The impetus for that investigation was Whitewater, , allegations that he used inside info/connections to get in on a sweetheart real estate development deal when Governor of Arkansas...that actually resulted in Clinton losing 200K if I recall correctly. Losing money would not have made it less illegal if guilty as charged about insider stuff.

Clinton was asked about the sex acts with Lewinski ONLY after a dogged, desperate investigation in search of anything that could nail him...quite a long distance jump from the purpose of the investigation.

So what connection could anyone make between Whitewater and being asked under oath about sex?

Well, it was what we can only impartially call prosecuting the political opposition!
MACS Offline
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They tried impeaching him twice, Frankie. Fail. Fail. Now it's onto this. Which will also fail.

Clinton was IN office and he was being impeached. Trump has been out of office for a while. Only reason they're going this route is because he said he was gonna run again and they do NOT want him to. And to be fair... I didn't like Clinton one bit, and thought that was a circus.
RayR Offline
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I heard LEFTY say IMPEACHMENT is FOREVER and INDICTMENT on FELONY COUNTS is FOREVER! LOL
Abrignac Offline
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I guess the real question is why hasn’t Stormy Daniels been charged by Bragg for extortion?

New York Penal Code SECTION 155.05
CHAPTER 40, PART 3, TITLE J, ARTICLE 155

Larceny; defined

(e) By extortion.

A person obtains property by extortion when he compels or induces
another person to deliver such property to himself or to a third person
by means of instilling in him a fear that, if the property is not so
delivered, the actor or another will:

(i) Cause physical injury to some person in the future; or

(ii) Cause damage to property; or

(iii) Engage in other conduct constituting a crime; or

(iv) Accuse some person of a crime or cause criminal charges or
removal proceedings to be instituted against him or her; or

(v) Expose a secret or publicize an asserted fact, whether true or
false, tending to subject some person to hatred, contempt or ridicule;

or

(vi) Cause a strike, boycott or other collective labor group action
injurious to some person's business; except that such a threat shall not
be deemed extortion when the property is demanded or received for the
benefit of the group in whose interest the actor purports to act; or

(vii) Testify or provide information or withhold testimony or
information with respect to another's legal claim or defense; or

(viii) Use or abuse his position as a public servant by performing
some act within or related to his official duties, or by failing or
refusing to perform an official duty, in such manner as to affect some
person adversely; or

(ix) Perform any other act which would not in itself materially
benefit the actor but which is calculated to harm another person
materially with respect to his health, safety, business, calling,
career, financial condition, reputation or personal relationships.
ZRX1200 Offline
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She’s not a threat as a Republican POTUS candidate.

Said the silent part for Robert.
MACS Offline
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Aaaaaaand the Judge, Juan Merchan donated to the Biden campaign.

Just in case anyone didn't think this was a political hit job, already.

Kangaroo court, fo realz, yo.
rfenst Offline
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MACS wrote:
Aaaaaaand the Judge, Juan Merchan donated to the Biden campaign.

Just in case anyone didn't think this was a political hit job, already.

Kangaroo court, fo realz, yo.

He is reported to be a fair, even-handed judge. $15 is diminius, but I bet he has to recuse due to the optics. This does not make it a kangaroo court or hit job.
rfenst Offline
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MACS wrote:
Huh... paying a woman to stay silent about an adulterous affair is apparently worse than lying about it to congress.

Absolutely a case of prosecuting the political opposition. Anyone who can't see it is blind. Dangerous precedent to set. Kinda makes us look a lot like a communist country.

Personally paying off someone to keep quiet and recording the payment of the company business books as something else that is actually deductible and then filing taxes based on those entries is a crime. It is called tax evasion. And, if you think this is all bullchit, you ain't seen nothing yet with the other charges pending and the several civil suits that he is presently defending.
Brewha Offline
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Now the boys and I are doing a little pickin and strumin. And got to thinkin bout how painful hurt a lot of our MAGA brothers must be feelin bout now, over poor Don get that indictment – or 34.
So we figure we pay you a little tune we learned from none other than Jake and Elwood.

(guitar intro)

Stand by your man
Give him two arms to cling to
And something warm to come to
when nights are cold and lonely

Stand by your man
And tell the world you love him
Keep givin' all the love you ca-aa-an (BA-BY!)
Stand by your ma-an!


Thank you!
We’re here all night.
ZRX1200 Offline
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I put a quarter in the juke box, picked “Just Wait for What I Got” by Adam Schiff and the Fibbers
ZRX1200 Offline
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https://youtu.be/Q8JDj9IwZfk
MACS Offline
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^Wonder what he is trying to hide?

Once again... political hit job on the opposition, that's ALL this is. They failed and failed and failed, never produced evidence because they lied about it (Schiff), and now in order to stop Trump from running again... they've got to fling more poo and see if it'll stick.
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rfenst wrote:
Personally paying off someone to keep quiet and recording the payment of the company business books as something else that is actually deductible and then filing taxes based on those entries is a crime. It is called tax evasion. And, if you think this is all bullchit, you ain't seen nothing yet with the other charges pending and the several civil suits that he is presently defending.



Huh...rat faced Michael Cohen is up a creek then according to you.
DrMaddVibe Offline
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MACS wrote:
^Wonder what he is trying to hide?

Once again... political hit job on the opposition, that's ALL this is. They failed and failed and failed, never produced evidence because they lied about it (Schiff), and now in order to stop Trump from running again... they've got to fling more poo and see if it'll stick.



Ever see the road runner? We're witnessing the greatest episode.
Sunoverbeach Offline
#40 Posted:
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Brewha wrote:
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So we figure we pay you a little tune we learned from none other than Jake and Elwood.

Fake attribute!!!! Stand by Your Man was released by Tammy Wymette in 1968, stayed at the top of the US country chart for three weeks, roses over to the pop chart and peaked at 19, then hit #1 on the UK singles chart when it was released there in 1975. I think one or two folks heard it prior to the Blues Brothers. I don't think they wrote Rawhide neither
Mr. Jones Offline
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Orange meng BBBBAAAAADDDDDD....

DIDNT TESTIFY IN HIS BERGDORF DRESSING ROOM RAPE
TRIAL ...

JUST CURIOUS, WHAT DOES THIS "TRAVESTY OF THE STATUTE OF LIMITATIONS" LAW ON THE BOOKS FOR OVER CENTURY
ACCOMPLISH?

I GET PERSECUTING NAZI GUARDS FROM DEATH CAMPS AFTER HIDING IN ARGENTINA for half a century or more...
But some gossip column broads claim?

Is this a civil case for money?
Or a legal case for jail time?
ZRX1200 Offline
#42 Posted:
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It’s for headlines, clicks, and campaign fundraising.

If BY CHANCE something sticks all the better.

Fact is no matter what, the confirmation bias crowd will clap like sheep.
Brewha Offline
#43 Posted:
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Sunoverbeach wrote:
Fake attribute!!!! Stand by Your Man was released by Tammy Wymette in 1968, stayed at the top of the US country chart for three weeks, roses over to the pop chart and peaked at 19, then hit #1 on the UK singles chart when it was released there in 1975. I think one or two folks heard it prior to the Blues Brothers. I don't think they wrote Rawhide neither


Plainly, I was alluding to their interpretation of the classic.
Which added a certain "comic depth" not found in the original work.

Props to Tammy - of course....
Brewha Offline
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Admittedly, I have not kept up with the indictments.

Have the riots in the streets started yet?
ZRX1200 Offline
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Obviously you’re not up to date, we had a coup……DrafterX is now king.

His coronation is tomorrow morning.
DrafterX Offline
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What will I wear..?? Think
KingoftheCove Offline
#47 Posted:
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Suspenders for sure, gotta keep those pants up.
No one wants to see your “plumbers smile”…
BuckyB93 Offline
#48 Posted:
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Sunoverbeach wrote:
Fake attribute!!!! Stand by Your Man was released by Tammy Wymette in 1968, stayed at the top of the US country chart for three weeks, roses over to the pop chart and peaked at 19, then hit #1 on the UK singles chart when it was released there in 1975. I think one or two folks heard it prior to the Blues Brothers. I don't think they wrote Rawhide neither


I have a strange urge to watch the Blues Brothers tonight. Probably in my top 10 of movies that are a must see. But my top 10 of must see movies include probably 100.

Side note... tried to make a Pulp Fiction quote with the kid coworkers at Wally World the other day after they bought a quarter pounder meal at McDonald's... "What do they call a quarter pounder in France?"

They looked at me with glazed eyes so I scolded them and said that they need to watch Pulp Fiction. They never heard of the movie. What is wrong with kids these days?
BuckyB93 Offline
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Four tee NINE!
rfenst Offline
#50 Posted:
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Mr. Jones wrote:
Orange meng BBBBAAAAADDDDDD....

DIDNT TESTIFY IN HIS BERGDORF DRESSING ROOM RAPE
TRIAL ...

JUST CURIOUS, WHAT DOES THIS "TRAVESTY OF THE STATUTE OF LIMITATIONS" LAW ON THE BOOKS FOR OVER CENTURY
ACCOMPLISH?

I GET PERSECUTING NAZI GUARDS FROM DEATH CAMPS AFTER HIDING IN ARGENTINA for half a century or more...
But some gossip column broads claim?

Is this a civil case for money?
Or a legal case for jail time?

Civil claim for money. I will truly respect her if she asks for $1 on the rape claim and asks for a lot in punitive damages.

The statute of limitations is only very, very long or forever in only certain types of cases- such as murder, fraud and rape, which are socially so heinous that public policy demands it.

Even if Trump is determined not to have raped her and truly didn't- his , lawyer, legal strategy and testimony at deposition are a disaster. Wrong type of lawyer. Wrong type of client.

He is the type of client no decent/good lawyer in their right mind would ordinarily represent (except for the "moths attracted to the flame" of money- if paid- and fame).

This is just another "Me Too" case and we have seen many men taken down like this in criminal and civil cases (not to minimalize such a claim).

I both understand and do not understand why he let this get this far by paying to make it go away (settling) would be the least expensive and quickest way to have squelched this with plausible deniability he won't have if the jury rules he raped her.
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