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Cycleman Offline
#1 Posted: Wed, Dec 14 2022, 8:05 PM EST
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We all know the risks.

A dear friend of mine that passes...... a few of you knew Matt..... said "Smoke your best, you are not promised tomorrow".

I use to gift so many of my very best cigars...... and I would look at my collection and smoke the cheapest trying to get my collection up a notch

As soon as I started smoking my BEST. I started loving our hobby 3 fold!!

My saying is...... "If 5... 10....12 years from now I get tongue, throat, mouth cancer..... I want it to be FROM THE BEST DAMN CIGARS ON THE PLANET".
LeeBot Offline
#2 Posted: Wed, Dec 14 2022, 9:00 PM EST
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I like you.

Food for thought. I kinda do the same thing as far as often smoking my lower quality stuff and saving the good ones.

One of my worries is that I will get so used to $10 and $15 smokes that my tastes will change, and I will no longer enjoy less expensive cigars. Right now, there are still $3 and $4 cigars that I like.
Jakethesnake86 Offline
#3 Posted: Wed, Dec 14 2022, 9:04 PM EST
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I smoke my junk and hand out my good stuff…. But you’ve got a fair point. My fear is the same as you lee. I enjoy some pretty inexpensive smokes. Hate to screw that up 😂.
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#4 Posted: Wed, Dec 14 2022, 10:50 PM EST
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The decline (incline?) is inevitable. Embrace it
Cycleman Offline
#5 Posted: Thu, Dec 15 2022, 7:07 AM EST
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Jakethesnake86 wrote:
I smoke my junk and hand out my good stuff…. But you’ve got a fair point. My fear is the same as you lee. I enjoy some pretty inexpensive smokes. Hate to screw that up 😂.



I understand!

You'll still enjoy the sticks you like. I found recently I am turning toward Connecticut once again. That's where I started like 25 years ago. And I still buy my favorite 2 dollar sticks! The key is..... do you like them.... then buy them.

A buddy of mine told me a story....... his father was a big golfer. LOVED to golf. A few years ago his dad passed. They were going through his things as everyone has to do at some point. In his closet they found about 20 boxes with 3 sleaves each of PREMIUM golf balls. He would buy or be gifted top end golf balls and his dad was saving them for a "Special" day when he would play and enjoy those top end golf balls so he always played with his older ones. Now what..... Now someone else has those premium golf balls and enjoying them, because he never did.

I realized my awesome collection is just going to go to someone else to enjoy and smoke when I die. I paid and collected PREMIUM smokes...... that I was not enjoying..... saving them for a special time. And when I were to die.... someone else gets to smoke all that premium stuff. TWO things have happened...... going forward.

1) I smoke my BEST..... favorite sticks and take photos of course to remeber them. Instead of WAITING for a special event..... I MAKE SPECIAL EVENTS and smoke them.

2) I only buy the sticks I really love now and gifted the stuff I don't enjoy. SOME ONE will enjoy them. I buy singles at my B&M to try new stuff before I buy boxes. ONLY BUY what you find as TOP NOTCH.


Again..... if I am going to get mouth cancer 10 years from now.... it will be from THE BEST DAMN CIGARS ON THE PLANET!

DEFIANCE! ;)
DrMaddVibe Offline
#6 Posted: Thu, Dec 15 2022, 7:21 AM EST
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Cycleman wrote:
I understand!

You'll still enjoy the sticks you like. I found recently I am turning toward Connecticut once again. That's where I started like 25 years ago. And I still buy my favorite 2 dollar sticks! The key is..... do you like them.... then buy them.

A buddy of mine told me a story....... his father was a big golfer. LOVED to golf. A few years ago his dad passed. They were going through his things as everyone has to do at some point. In his closet they found about 20 boxes with 3 sleaves each of PREMIUM golf balls. He would buy or be gifted top end golf balls and his dad was saving them for a "Special" day when he would play and enjoy those top end golf balls so he always played with his older ones. Now what..... Now someone else has those premium golf balls and enjoying them, because he never did.

I realized my awesome collection is just going to go to someone else to enjoy and smoke when I die. I paid and collected PREMIUM smokes...... that I was not enjoying..... saving them for a special time. And when I were to die.... someone else gets to smoke all that premium stuff. TWO things have happened...... going forward.

1) I smoke my BEST..... favorite sticks and take photos of course to remeber them. Instead of WAITING for a special event..... I MAKE SPECIAL EVENTS and smoke them.

2) I only buy the sticks I really love now and gifted the stuff I don't enjoy. SOME ONE will enjoy them. I buy singles at my B&M to try new stuff before I buy boxes. ONLY BUY what you find as TOP NOTCH.


Again..... if I am going to get mouth cancer 10 years from now.... it will be from THE BEST DAMN CIGARS ON THE PLANET!

DEFIANCE! ;)



Thanks for sharing. And yes, your giving heart is huge! Merry Christmas!!!
deadeyedick Offline
#7 Posted: Thu, Dec 15 2022, 8:01 AM EST
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Cycleman wrote:
We all know the risks.

A dear friend of mine that passes...... a few of you knew Matt..... said "Smoke your best, you are not promised tomorrow".

I use to gift so many of my very best cigars...... and I would look at my collection and smoke the cheapest trying to get my collection up a notch

As soon as I started smoking my BEST. I started loving our hobby 3 fold!!

My saying is...... "If 5... 10....12 years from now I get tongue, throat, mouth cancer..... I want it to be FROM THE BEST DAMN CIGARS ON THE PLANET".




I tend to forget this often and reach for my "everyday" smokes. I have "special occasion" smokes going back to the late 1990s and many more that were reasonable when purchased but now are ridiculously expensive. IE: Behikes etc

Time to pull out a few of those and celebrate the day we are given!
drglnc Offline
#8 Posted: Thu, Dec 15 2022, 8:50 AM EST
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I have instructed my wife that when i die i want her to have an open humidor and open bar funeral instead of an open casket since i aint pretty enough to look at alive so no one wants to see me dead... Just put the coolers next to the casket (or urn) and let people have at it. now i need to start smoking all the good stuff so its just the every day stuff left on that day for all the attendees to pick from.
Cycleman Offline
#9 Posted: Thu, Dec 15 2022, 9:44 AM EST
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drglnc wrote:
I have instructed my wife that when i die i want her to have an open humidor and open bar funeral instead of an open casket since i aint pretty enough to look at alive so no one wants to see me dead... Just put the coolers next to the casket (or urn) and let people have at it. now i need to start smoking all the good stuff so its just the every day stuff left on that day for all the attendees to pick from.


NICE!!!! That's the idea. Enjoy your best.... we can't when we are dead.
tonygraz Offline
#10 Posted: Thu, Dec 15 2022, 10:42 AM EST
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I pick mostly the best I have to take on vacations, where I have the time to sit and enjoy a smoke. At home I'm always working on something outside, so my "el Cheapo" cigars are the usual choice. In the last couple of years I've been trying to smoke some of the older goodies that may be beginning to lose their flavor. This year the last of the old Gurkha nublizers are a target for disposal by fire. I have had a problem with nubs as they don't fit well in the herfador boxes, and I"m not about to buy the new specially designed nub ones.
Palama Offline
#11 Posted: Thu, Dec 15 2022, 1:32 PM EST
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drglnc wrote:
I have instructed my wife that when i die i want her to have an open humidor and open bar funeral instead of an open casket since i aint pretty enough to look at alive so no one wants to see me dead... Just put the coolers next to the casket (or urn) and let people have at it. now i need to start smoking all the good stuff so its just the every day stuff left on that day for all the attendees to pick from.


LOL! That’s a great line! Fo’ sure I fit that description too. Laugh

And love the idea of an open humidor and bar but I don’t think there’s a mortuary here that will allow that (…possibly against State laws…). Would probably hafta be done offsite after the services.

I don’t want my family to fret over my cigars so told my wife I was gonna label boxes / Tupperwares / coolers with who I wanted to give to but haven’t, yet, done that. I should get back on that horse again.
corey sellers Offline
#12 Posted: Thu, Dec 15 2022, 2:10 PM EST
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Conan , I love you and just remember my name is spelled Corey Sellers.

Haha
LeeBot Offline
#13 Posted: Thu, Dec 15 2022, 2:23 PM EST
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I've always said Conan was the smartest, kindest, most generous, all around best guy on the forum!

Just ask anybody. They'll tell you I said that.
Palama Offline
#14 Posted: Thu, Dec 15 2022, 2:36 PM EST
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corey sellers wrote:
Conan , I love you and just remember my name is spelled Corey Sellers.

Haha


LeeBot wrote:
I've always said Conan was the smartest, kindest, most generous, all around best guy on the forum!

Just ask anybody. They'll tell you I said that.


You frickin’ guys crack me up! Laugh
Stogie1020 Offline
#15 Posted: Thu, Dec 15 2022, 3:01 PM EST
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He doesn't have any MSA...
LeeBot Offline
#16 Posted: Thu, Dec 15 2022, 4:39 PM EST
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^yeah, that's a problem.
tonygraz Offline
#17 Posted: Thu, Dec 15 2022, 5:31 PM EST
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Conan, how many Gurkhas will I be getting ?
Palama Offline
#18 Posted: Thu, Dec 15 2022, 6:33 PM EST
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Stogie1020 wrote:
He doesn't have any MSA...


LeeBot wrote:
^yeah, that's a problem.


Nooo, never said I don’t have any. Shame on you

I just don’t purposely buy cigars blended with it. Not talking

I don’t normally re-gift so will, at some point in time, ash up all of my gifted smokes…or at least that’s my intent. RollEyes
Palama Offline
#19 Posted: Thu, Dec 15 2022, 6:44 PM EST
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tonygraz wrote:
Conan, how many Gurkhas will I be getting ?


I honestly don’t think I have any. Gonz

I never bought any (…or at least I don’t recall that lapse in judgment…) and the only one I can remember getting was a K. Hansotia branded cigar from Busa during an inventory thinning many moon ago. It was 12 cigars for $60 (…or thereabouts…) but the Hansotia had a Connie wrapper so I gave it to one of my nephews who, at that time, preferred mild to mild-med cigars.

But maybe you can hold out for my Neil Young collection? Both official and ROIO stuff.
Jakethesnake86 Offline
#20 Posted: Thu, Dec 15 2022, 6:51 PM EST
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^need a couple (Gurkhas) 😂. I’m gonna revisit sometime. There’s a couple I used to like. The chairman’s reserve and vintage something or other.
corey sellers Offline
#21 Posted: Thu, Dec 15 2022, 7:09 PM EST
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If you send me Gurkhas I am digging your ass back up. We going to have a talk. Y'all taught me better.

Haha
Jakethesnake86 Offline
#22 Posted: Thu, Dec 15 2022, 7:41 PM EST
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😂 ^
tonygraz Offline
#23 Posted: Fri, Dec 16 2022, 1:33 PM EST
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Palama wrote:
I honestly don’t think I have any. Gonz

I never bought any (…or at least I don’t recall that lapse in judgment…) and the only one I can remember getting was a K. Hansotia branded cigar from Busa during an inventory thinning many moon ago. It was 12 cigars for $60 (…or thereabouts…) but the Hansotia had a Connie wrapper so I gave it to one of my nephews who, at that time, preferred mild to mild-med cigars.

But maybe you can hold out for my Neil Young collection? Both official and ROIO stuff.



Neil is a much better gift - I'll try to hold out.
delta1 Offline
#24 Posted: Fri, Dec 16 2022, 6:07 PM EST
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don't care about MSA...I want Palama's MSG...somehow, someway, that has become a non-starter in most CA Chinese restaurants...

waitaminnit...why the heck are we talkin about Palama's death as if it's imminent???...chest cold, breast fold...dude's healthier than the Energizer bunny
delta1 Offline
#25 Posted: Fri, Dec 16 2022, 6:11 PM EST
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for what it's worth, I have been smoking a few of my better cigars but I still go for the lower cost storage box for a cigar to smoke during my daily walk ...seems that walking outdoors isn't conducive to total enjoyment of a great cigar.

I am finding that I don't enjoy as many of the lower cost smokes as I did years ago...not sure if my palate changed or my perception/snobbish mind has. I've also discovered that quite a few of the mid-tier and some of the high cost cigars aren't much better than the $2-$5 cigars...

I may have to take a hiatus to re-boot the palate...seems Palama had a 2+ week break due to an illness, and really enjoyed his first smoke back...
Jakethesnake86 Offline
#26 Posted: Fri, Dec 16 2022, 6:37 PM EST
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I’ve mentioned at times especially in the blind taste challenge thingy. I think there’s some affordable cigars you could put an Ezra Zion band on and people would go crazy over them. I would t say it’s the norm by any means but I’ve been let down pretty hard by some 10$ plus cigars. I’ve got some that retail around 7$ I love. Some of it is in the mind when smoking
corey sellers Offline
#27 Posted: Fri, Dec 16 2022, 6:40 PM EST
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I agree Jake here lately there have been some limited edition s&it that really didn't excite me.
Jakethesnake86 Offline
#28 Posted: Fri, Dec 16 2022, 7:33 PM EST
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I wasn’t singling out EZ by any means. Just an example. I do like their cigars. I think everyone knows what I was trying to get at there lol
Jakethesnake86 Offline
#29 Posted: Fri, Dec 16 2022, 7:36 PM EST
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Two recent examples. Illusione of Excalibur was good. But not worth that price

Warped eagles descent. Same
corey sellers Offline
#30 Posted: Fri, Dec 16 2022, 7:36 PM EST
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I know there are many others.
Sunoverbeach Offline
#31 Posted: Fri, Dec 16 2022, 7:36 PM EST
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I like their smokes most of the time. I'm tired of their marketing. It's not possible to have the single best blend ever in the history of tobacco every. single. release.
Jakethesnake86 Offline
#32 Posted: Fri, Dec 16 2022, 7:42 PM EST
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But if I put a ribbon on an oliva Daytona and told some of those die hard ez folks it was the limited run they’d praise how great the cigar is.

(I like the Daytona more than I should) just an example
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#33 Posted: Fri, Dec 16 2022, 7:57 PM EST
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The Daytona is weird for me. Had a romusto in a sampler and it was wonderful. So, I got a box of the #4, and not a one of them was nearly as good. I don't know if it was size or age
corey sellers Offline
#34 Posted: Fri, Dec 16 2022, 8:01 PM EST
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Ez and Viaje are 2 that fall into this. I buy all Viaje but I have quit buying what I already have. I have found that some of these Viaje blends are ****.
corey sellers Offline
#35 Posted: Fri, Dec 16 2022, 8:01 PM EST
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I am a Viaje whore btw.
corey sellers Offline
#36 Posted: Fri, Dec 16 2022, 8:01 PM EST
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Smoking one now.
corey sellers Offline
#37 Posted: Fri, Dec 16 2022, 8:02 PM EST
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Just sayin....
Jakethesnake86 Offline
#38 Posted: Fri, Dec 16 2022, 8:12 PM EST
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Have you had the private keep lemon Corey? I been handing them out but haven’t tried them. I’m bad about that…

Sunover I like the romusto and the 6 46 is my go to on those.

Haven’t had the 43. Might be enough to screw the blend up Like some lanceros work and some kinda don’t. My goat like palate tells me so
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#39 Posted: Fri, Dec 16 2022, 8:49 PM EST
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This thread inspired to me smoke on of my Alma Fuertes tonight. I drank the cool-aid on these. I think they're fantastic.
Palama Offline
#40 Posted: Fri, Dec 16 2022, 8:59 PM EST
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delta1 wrote:
don't care about MSA...I want Palama's MSG...somehow, someway, that has become a non-starter in most CA Chinese restaurants...

waitaminnit...why the heck are we talkin about Palama's death as if it's imminent???...chest cold, breast fold...dude's healthier than the Energizer bunny


Madison Square Garden? Flapper

While growing up, Aji-no-moto was a staple of our household. One of my Dad's comfort dishes was Hula Brand udon, canned sardines (in oil) and green onions. He always sprinkled in some Aji-no-moto and shoyu towards the end. I tried to re-create it without the Aji and it was rather flat. Next time I used some Aji and it made a difference. A little went a long way...at least taste-wise.

IDK about being healthier than the Energizer Bunny but I do try to watch what I eat and drink as well as get some exercise on a regular basis.
Palama Offline
#41 Posted: Fri, Dec 16 2022, 9:12 PM EST
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Jakethesnake86 wrote:
Two recent examples. Illusione of Excalibur was good. But not worth that price

Warped eagles descent. Same


I bought a 5er from a small place but with the 20% discount and free shipping, paid $9.60 per. Smoked one after almost 2 months rest and thought it was quite a spice bomb. I'll try another when they hit the 6 months mark and see how they are.

For the most part I've enjoyed the regular production stuff from Warped and a few LE. Kyle seems to have toned down the release rate of his LEs but I wasn't ever "hooked" on his stuff until recently.


corey sellers wrote:
Ez and Viaje are 2 that fall into this. I buy all Viaje but I have quit buying what I already have. I have found that some of these Viaje blends are ****.


Viaje is a brand that, for some reason, I've just not come around to. I've been gifted some really good ones but also a bunch of okay, borderline, meh smokes. Most of the ones I've bought haven't lived up to their prices.

Oh well....
corey sellers Offline
#42 Posted: Sat, Dec 17 2022, 7:20 AM EST
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Jake the lemon was good rott. The chartreuse from last year are awesome . Really good with age. I think alot of the viajes do good with age.
deadeyedick Offline
#43 Posted: Sun, Dec 18 2022, 7:27 AM EST
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Smoked a 21 year old RyJ Churchill and a 14 year old ERdM Choix Supreme in the last few days. Top down stuff.
Cycleman Offline
#44 Posted: Sun, Dec 18 2022, 8:54 AM EST
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deadeyedick wrote:
Smoked a 21 year old RyJ Churchill and a 14 year old ERdM Choix Supreme in the last few days. Top down stuff.



NICE!!
Cycleman Offline
#45 Posted: Sun, Dec 18 2022, 8:55 AM EST
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LeeBot wrote:
This thread inspired to me smoke on of my Alma Fuertes tonight. I drank the cool-aid on these. I think they're fantastic.

I'll have to try one now....
clintCigar Offline
#46 Posted: Mon, Dec 19 2022, 2:09 PM EST
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^the Alma Fuertes awesome.

I think I might break out some of my better stuff for the holidays.
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#47 Posted: Mon, Dec 19 2022, 2:22 PM EST
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With less than two weeks left in the year but with the lingering, occasional cough, I’mma gonna have to dig super deep and pick out 4 smokes to end the year on a high note.
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