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RayR wrote:
DMV...I heard all this stuff about nailing Hunter on gun-related charges is just part of a larger right-wing "witch hunt" with the end game of impeaching the Big Kahuna of the crime family.
So, will the next step in this vast right-wing conspiracy be nailing Hunter for failing to pay his heavy progressive Marxist income tax "fair share" on the ill-gotten gains he achieved through Bidenomics? Think


I yelled out "SLAMDUNK!" because it is. Those charges in this gun grab day and age would stick on anyone. They will for this crackhead too. Now, bring the money laundering, FARA abuse and bribery charges...NOW!!!!
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I wonder how many weeks of probation Hunter Biden will get.
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HockeyDad wrote:
I wonder how many weeks of probation Hunter Biden will get.


Imagine if that was you, lying on your gun purchase. Would you get probation?

If he skates...F@CK THE ATF!
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The secret service should be subject to a public hearing for their role in covering up the gun being left where it was. You can’t shake a stick blindfolded and not hit a Sniffy Joe red flag.
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Opinion How a conservative court ruling could save Hunter Biden


Irony alert: A misguided ruling from the conservative-dominated Supreme Court — a decision that President Biden has said “contradicts both common sense and the Constitution” — might save Hunter Biden from the gun charges just filed against him.


WAPO

Last year, in New York State Rifle & Pistol Association v. Bruen, the court upended its approach to gun rights, saying that the Second Amendment right to keep and bear arms permits only those gun restrictions that have a basis in “history and tradition.” That blinkered interpretation has set off a flurry of challenges to existing gun laws in the lower courts as judges have been forced to scour colonial-era statutes for analogies to modern-day regulations.

In Hunter Biden’s case, that means finding historical antecedents for the federal law that prohibits those who use illegal drugs from purchasing or possessing firearms. Biden was indicted Thursday on three felony counts: making two false statements on a gun purchase form that he did not use and was not addicted to controlled substances, and illegally possessing a Colt revolver while he was using narcotics.

His lawyers have signaled their intention to use the high court’s ruling in Bruen as a basis for challenging the charges.

“Our response to the charge in court will point out that the United States Department of Justice, which is supposed to protect the constitutional rights of all Americans, by bringing its firearm charge, is disregarding the rulings of the Supreme Court and the Fifth Circuit and is seeking to punish Mr. Biden for exercising a constitutional right these courts have stated he has,” Biden’s lawyer, Abbe Lowell, told me.

That presents yet another layer of political discomfort for the president, whose administration has defended the constitutionality of the ban on gun ownership by drug users and would, presumably, maintain that position in Hunter Biden’s case as well.

This could also prove to be an instance of bad cases making bad law. First, the bad case: The counts on which Biden has been indicted are not often brought as stand-alone charges, absent other, serious misconduct. Biden had the gun for all of 11 days and never used it. Under an earlier, now unraveled plea agreement, prosecutors agreed to allow him to enter a pretrial diversion program — a deal that Biden’s lawyers assert is still in force and that in any event seems like a more appropriate sanction for his behavior.

As to bad law: Whatever happened in colonial times, modern-day America ought to be able to say that drug users shouldn’t have guns. Yet Biden has a reasonable chance — in the chaotic aftermath of Bruen, and especially given this conservative Supreme Court — of prevailing in his argument that the addict-in-possession ban violates the Second Amendment.

He could also attack the false statements charges on the theory that if the underlying law against addicts with guns violates the Second Amendment, a false statement about drug usage is no longer legally significant.

Most trial-level federal courts that have heard challenges to the law have upheld it. But the U.S. Court of Appeals for the 5th Circuit, the first appeals court to consider the issue, ruled the other way last month involving a man who said he smoked marijuana about 14 days a month but was not deemed high at the time of he was arrested and charged with illegal gun possession. After Bruen, the court said, the law, in place since 1968, was no longer constitutional.

“Throughout American history, laws have regulated the combination of guns and intoxicating substances,” wrote Judge Jerry E. Smith, a Ronald Reagan appointee. “But at no point in the 18th or 19th century did the government disarm individuals who used drugs or alcohol at one time from possessing guns at another.”

The ruling looked to such statutes as a 1656 Virginia law that banned “shoot[ing] any gunns at drinkeing” — the worry was about conserving gunpowder or generating alarms about Indians attacking — and a 1771 New York law that barred citizens from firing guns over the New Year’s holiday because of the “great Damages” done by those “intoxicated with Liquor.”

“Given the prevalence of drinking at the Founding, that handful of laws puts the government on shaky footing,” Smith observed. “The government has failed to identify any relevant tradition at the Founding of disarming ordinary citizens who consumed alcohol.”

Notably, Smith was joined not only by Donald Trump nominee Don Willett but by Stephen A. Higginson, a Barack Obama nominee. In a concurring opinion, Higginson said that conclusion was compelled by the court’s historical approach in Bruen but lamented the potential implications of prioritizing an individual’s right to bear arms while ignoring that the right is grounded in the need to protect public safety.

Such rulings “will constrain the ability of our state and federal political branches to address gun violence across the country, which every day cuts short the lives of our citizens,” he warned. “This state of affairs will be nothing less than a Second Amendment caricature, a right turned inside out, against freedom and security in our State.”

Indeed. Is public safety threatened by a pothead with a gun? Not so much. By Hunter Biden with a handgun? He was probably more of a danger to himself, or so those closest to him figured, than to others.

But a society ought to have the discretion to make those judgments for itself. It shouldn’t be constrained in its decision-making by the rules of an era of flintlocks and muzzleloaders, long before school shooters and lockdown drills, opioid epidemics and drug gangs.
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You lost me at WAPO. BigGrin

All that 2nd Amendment stuff about not infringing on the right of the proles to bear arms only applies to the general government if you understand the original meaning of the Constitution by those oldy fashioned flintlock and muzzleloader wielding forefathers. That means the 3 legs of the federal stool, the Executive Branch, the Legislative Branch and the Judicial Branch cannot infringe on the right of the people to bear arms.

That means the sovereign states and the people per the 10th Amendment reserved the right to regulate the right to bear arms if they so choose — as long as it did not violate their state constitution. To cut to the chase, did drug addled Hunter break a constitutional state law whether he was high as a kite or not?

Anyway, this diversion to nailing Hunter about that gun charge is small potatoes, when the other evidence of seriously bad behavior can be tied directly to the BIG GUY and the CRIME FAMILY.
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RayR wrote:
You lost me at WAPO. BigGrin

All that 2nd Amendment stuff about not infringing on the right of the proles to bear arms only applies to the general government if you understand the original meaning of the Constitution by those oldy fashioned flintlock and muzzleloader wielding forefathers. That means the 3 legs of the federal stool, the Executive Branch, the Legislative Branch and the Judicial Branch cannot infringe on the right of the people to bear arms.

That means the sovereign states and the people per the 10th Amendment reserved the right to regulate the right to bear arms if they so choose — as long as it did not violate their state constitution. To cut to the chase, did drug addled Hunter break a constitutional state law whether he was high as a kite or not?

Anyway, this diversion to nailing Hunter about that gun charge is small potatoes, when the other evidence of seriously bad behavior can be tied directly to the BIG GUY and the CRIME FAMILY.


You are obsessed with your own unrelated issues and seemingly to need to repeat the same points over and over again.

Too bad, too, you can't even bring yourself to read articles that make you think in uncomfortable in ways and that don't say exactly what you like from sources you like.

There is a valid legal argument laid out in that article. It may not win, but its worthy of consideration as a remote possibility, depending on how the case goes. If you had bothered to read the article, we could actually have a conversation about it to see if we agree or disagree on parts or in whole. Not a Second Amendment/Founding Fathers/"Biden crime family" rant

Now, show me the irrefutable "direct evidence" you claim exists. If it is incontrovertible/damning right now and irrefutable, then I will totally denounce Biden as President- right now- and support impeachment. P.S. Don't bring me "indirect evidence" as it proves nothing in and of itself (without piling inference on inference) to reach a conclusion you like.

If the "direct evidence" existed right now, we'd be having an actual impeachment right now, not a "fishing expedition".
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rfenst wrote:
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You are obsessed with your own unrelated issues and seemingly to need to repeat the same points over and over again.

Too bad, too, you can't even bring yourself to read articles that make you think in uncomfortable in ways and that don't say exactly what you like from sources you like.

There is a valid legal argument laid out in that article. It may not win, but its worthy of consideration as a remote possibility, depending on how the case goes. If you had bothered to read the article, we could actually have a conversation about it to see if we agree or disagree on parts or in whole. Not a Second Amendment/Founding Fathers/"Biden crime family" rant

Now, show me the irrefutable "direct evidence" you claim exists. If it is incontrovertible/damning right now and irrefutable, then I will totally denounce Biden as President- right now- and support impeachment. P.S. Don't bring me "indirect evidence" as it proves nothing in and of itself (without piling inference on inference) to reach a conclusion you like.

If the "direct evidence" existed right now, we'd be having an actual impeachment right now, not a "fishing expedition".


I don't care for the twists and turns of legal weaseling arguments. I only want to know if Hunter violated a valid constitutional state and local law regulating firearms or not.

So, you don't believe there is direct evidence of the greater Hunter, Joe and the Crime Family misdeeds? The Oversight Committee has collected quite a bit, don't you think? Certainly, enough to go forth with the impeachment inquiry?

Evidence of Joe Biden’s Involvement in His Family’s Influence Peddling Schemes

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There is mounting evidence that Joe Biden was involved in his family’s influence peddling schemes, including while he served as Vice President. However, Democrats and their corporate media allies continue to ignore this overwhelming evidence as they seek to distract the American people from the Biden family’s corruption. Below are over 20 examples of Joe Biden’s involvement.

Continue...

https://oversight.house.gov/blog/evidence-of-joe-bidens-involvement-in-his-familys-influence-peddling-schemes/



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I totally agree with Gorka here, the indictment on gun charges is just a smoke screen to try to cover up the greater crimes of the Crime Family, the regime doesn't really believe in justice and Hunter will never see the inside of a jail cell.

Is Hunter Biden really in trouble? Seb Gorka joins NEWSMAX

https://rumble.com/v3ifz2s-is-hunter-biden-really-in-trouble-seb-gorka-joins-newsmax.html
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I've said it before, saying it again... If laws were broken, Gather the evidence, present it... Lockum up... that goes for Jr, Papa, Biden, Trump, John Doe, Jane Doe, LGBTQ Doe, Independent, Libertarian, Republican or Democrat....
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More evidence surfaces of Biden Crime Family collusion with Chicoms.


BREAKING: Hunter Received Two Bank Wires Originating from Beijing in 2019 with Beneficiary Address Listed as Joe Biden’s Delaware Home

By Cristina Laila Sep. 26, 2023 5:20 pm

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House Oversight Chairman James Comer on Tuesday revealed Hunter Biden received two bank wires from China and Joe Biden was listed as the beneficiary address for both wire transfers.

“The first wire sent to Hunter Biden, dated July 26, 2019, was for $10,000 from an individual named Ms. Wang Xin. There is a Ms. Wang Xin listed on the website for BHR Partners. It is unclear if the wire came from that Wang Xin,” according to Fox News.

“The second wire transfer sent to Hunter Biden, dated August 2, 2019, was for $250,000 from Li Xiang Sheng—also known as Jonathan Li, the CEO of BHR Partners—and Ms. Tan Ling. The committee is trying to identify Ling’s role,” Fox reported.

“I just subpoenaed and obtained two bank wires revealing Hunter Biden received payments originating from Beijing in 2019 when Joe Biden was running for President,” House Oversight Chairman James Comer said on X.

“Joe Biden’s Delaware home is listed as the beneficiary address for both money wires from China,” Comer added.

“Bank records don’t lie but President Joe Biden does,” Comer said. “Joe Biden’s abuse of public office for his family’s financial gain threatens our national security. What did the Bidens do with this Beijing money? Americans demand answers and deserve accountability.”

More...

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2023/09/breaking-hunter-received-two-bank-wires-originating-beijing/
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Four Years After Biden ‘Laptop From Hell’ Falsely Labeled ‘Misinformation,’ DOJ Admits It’s Real



Burying what should have been the biggest corruption scandal story of the century was the plan all along.

Nearly four years after the damning evidence of Biden family corruption on Hunter Biden’s laptop was disclosed in 2020, President Joe Biden’s Department of Justice admitted in a court filing on Tuesday that the Mac and its contents are real.

If you’ve been following this story since it broke in October 2020, you know there was never any true reason to doubt The New York Post’s reporting or the word of the Delaware computer repair shop owner that the abandoned Mac belonged to Hunter. Yet truth was no defense. The Post was quickly banned from social media for spreading “disinformation” — a decision based on actual disinformation — and dozens of U.S. intelligence officials rushed to back the censorship. So did Joe Biden.

The DOJ’s confirmation the laptop’s contents came from Hunter arrives years after complicit media outlets quietly admitted the truth about the computer in 2022, and even longer after conservative media verified the laptop’s authenticity ahead of 2020 election day.

The DOJ’s acknowledgment that Hunter’s laptop was “left at a computer store” and contained “duplicative information investigators had already obtained from Apple” further vindicates the IRS whistleblowers, who were also relentlessly smeared for speaking up.

In 2020, any mention of the evidence — IRS whistleblower or otherwise — that the then-presidential candidate Biden and his family were involved in an international influence-peddling scheme was nuked by Big Tech, shunned by corporate media, and skewered by Democrats. It’s still treated as false by many top media and Democrat figures.

President Joe Biden, one of the biggest laptop deniers, repeatedly insisted from the 2020 debate stage and campaign trail that the laptop was a Russian plant meant to harm his election chances. Biden, Hunter, Big Tech companies, the FBI, and the IRS knew this was a lie, but continued to tout it well into the Democrat’s first term.

http://tinyurl.com/5fdayes6

Even when current intelligence leaders confirmed there was never any evidence that the Hunter laptop wasn’t legitimate, Biden justified spreading this conspiracy theory with a letter signed by dozens of former intelligence heads. In it, they dubbed the laptop story “Russian disinformation.” Reporting later revealed it was Biden’s then-campaign adviser and now-Secretary of State Antony Blinken who orchestrated the letter and the CIA that solicited signatures for it.

Evidence of the Bidens’ deep familial corruption had the potential to change Americans’ votes in the 2020 election. That is why all of Democrats’ forces in technology, the propaganda press, and the bureaucracy banded together to subdue it.

Over and over and over, those same forces were proven not just wrong, but corrupt co-conspirators in the scheme to rig the 2020 election in Biden’s favor.

When Hunter’s laptop surfaced and former Biden business partner Tony Bobulinski claimed mere weeks before the 2020 election he met with Joe as part of Biden family influence-peddling, Biden denied everything. He denied Hunter ever made money on China and that he was ever involved in the pay-to-play scheme.

To this day, Biden claims the hundreds of emails, texts, voicemails, bank records, receipts, White House visitor logs, photos, and sworn witness testimonies from Biden business associates proving his involvement in the family corruption business are a “bunch of lies.” He and everyone else who knew the laptop and its contents were legit faced zero consequences for their lying and treachery.

Election Day 2024 is fast approaching, and not one of the Americans who was lied to during the 2020 election will ever receive an apology from the FBI, corporate media, Big Tech, or the Bidens, because those institutions and people are not sorry. Getting away with dodging, deflecting, and burying what should have been the biggest corruption scandal story of the century was the plan all along.


https://thefederalist.com/2024/01/17/four-years-after-biden-laptop-from-hell-falsely-labeled-misinformation-doj-admits-its-real/


Couple that with his "artwork" scandal...

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Remember when Pedo Joe said he doesn't know? He's a liar.


Art dealer told Congress that Joe Biden called and met him while he sold Hunter Biden’s paintings


George Berges also says first son made unusual request to know the identity of buyers, undercutting White House's narrative.


The art dealer who sold Hunter Biden’s paintings told Congress that President Joe Biden both called and met him at the White House as he was pitching Hunter's artwork and that the first son also made an unusual request to be informed about who bought his pieces, according to testimony that directly undercuts the White House narrative on the sales.

The Biden White House repeatedly told the public that Hunter Biden’s art sales were covered by an ethics agreement to ensure they were arms-length and that the first family -- Hunter included -- was blinded to the identity of buyers.

But George Berges, owner of the prestigious Berges art galleries based in New York and Berlin that sold Hunter Biden’s painting from 2020 to 2023, told congressional impeachment investigators that the first son likely knew the identity of 70% of the buyers – the largest who were Democrat donors – and that Hunter Biden’s first contract made an unusual request when the relationship started.

“I believe in the first contract, he was—he was able to know who the buyers were,” Berges told investigators for the House Oversight and Judiciary Committees in a transcribed interview last week that was reviewed by Just the News. “…I don’t know how it was phrased or—but I remember that there—that that was the difference.”

“Is that normal or unusual, or where’s that? Is it a normal kind of contract?” Berges was asked.

“That part was different. Normally, the gallerist does not let the artist know who the collectors are,” the art dealer answered.

Berges said a subsequent art sale deal with the first son dropped the requirement for Hunter Biden to be informed. “The first one was that I was required to disclose who the buyers were. In the second one, I was required to not disclose the buyers,” he explained.

Berges was also asked how many of the 15 artists he represents now – except for Hunter Biden – wanted to know the identity of purchasers. “None,” he answered.


Berges also revealed that he no longer represents Hunter Biden for art sales, saying the commercial relationship ended last fall. “I haven't represented him for four months now, and I think that also says something,” Berges said. “And I still talk to him as a friend.” Hunter Biden is still listed on Berges' website.

Not only did Hunter Biden know many of the buyers, Joe Biden apparently knew about the gallery selling Hunter Biden’s art and had two contacts with Berges, according to the testimony.

“Have you spoken to President Biden?” a House investigator asked at one point.
“Yes,” Berges answered.

“Okay. And was that in person or on the phone or both?” the investigator pressed.
“Both,” he answered.

“Can you tell me about the in-person meeting, where that was, when that was?” the questioner inquired. “At the White House wedding during Hunter's - Hunter's daughter getting married,” the art dealer explained.

“Okay. And then on the phone?” the congressional investigator asked.


“My daughter finished camp and he called to, you know, wish her, congratulate her for finishing camp and I answered the phone,” he said.

Berges’ account mirrors that of an earlier Hunter Biden business partner, Devon Archer, who gave explosive testimony to Congress last summer revealing that Joe Biden as vice president got on about two dozen calls with his son’s foreign business associates and had at least two dinners with them. The president had denied any contact with Hunter Biden associates.

Berges’ testimony also confirmed earlier reporting by Just the News, including that:

Hollywood superlawyer and Democrat donor Kevin Morris bought some of Hunter Biden’s art work: Berges put the total at at least $875,000;
Democrat donor Elizbeth Naftali, who Joe Biden appointed to a federal commission, bought art work as well. Berges said she bought bought one painting before her federal appointment and one after her appointment;
Joe Biden fundraiser Lanette Phillips made the connection between Hunter Biden and Berges that led to the art sales deal;
Berges sold his first piece of art for the first son in December 2020, just before Joe Biden took office; and
Berges had two art sales agreements with Hunter Biden, one in 2020 and another about a year later.

But the art dealer’s most consequential testimony for the impeachment proceeding involved Joe Biden and his White House. Berges said in addition to meeting and talking with the president while helping Hunter Biden, he had never had any contact with the White House over the supposed ethics agreement.

“When you’re seeing in the press that the White House is putting in certain safeguards regarding an ethics agreement but you’ve had no conversations with [the] White House, I mean, did you ever say to Hunter Biden, ‘Hey, where’s this coming from?’” a congressional investigator asked. “I might have. I probably did, yeah,” Berges said.

“And do you remember what he said to you?" the investigator continued. “I don’t . . . . I do remember being surprised,” Berges explained.

“Why were you surprised?” he was asked. “Because I hadn’t had any communication with the White House about an agreement,” Berges answered.

https://justthenews.com/accountability/political-ethics/tueart-dealer-told-congress-joe-biden-called-met-him-while-he-sold
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#314 Posted:
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And don’t forget we now now this Titan on intellect Hunter has cocaine residue on his illegally purchased handgun case.
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And I know that you know what would happen to you or I if we were to operate as reckless as a Biden with firearms.

Add drugs to the mix?


https://youtu.be/CrzyRXSxuAg?si=VoK38WU88j743a7b
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More incriminating Crime Family News...

Hunter Biden partner Rob Walker confirms payments to Biden family, China deal began when Joe was VP


Walker was closely involved with Hunter Biden's initial dealings with CEFC China Energy, the same company that sent millions to the Biden family.

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Hunter Biden associate Rob Walker appeared for a transcribed interview with the House Oversight Committee Friday as the latest witness in the impeachment inquiry and weeks before Hunter Biden is set to testify.

According to a source familiar with Walker’s testimony, he confirmed reports that Hunter Biden’s work for the Chinese energy company CEFC began while Joe Biden was still Vice President, in 2015.

In December, Just the News reported that the impeachment inquiry had assembled a growing body of evidence that Hunter’s work with the Chinese energy company started years before its million dollar payments began to flow into the Biden family coffers in 2017, following Joe Biden’s departure from office.

“Today we learned that Joe Biden met with the now-missing Chairman of CEFC, Ye Jianming, as Hunter Biden and his associates received $3 million from a Chinese entity CEFC controlled. Evidence continues to reveal the Bidens sold the ‘Biden Brand’ to enrich the Biden family," Oversight Chairman James Comer said in a statement released by the Oversight Committee.

"Today’s interview confirmed Hunter Biden and his associates’ work with the Chinese government-linked energy company began over a year before Joe Biden left the vice presidency, but the Bidens and their associates held off being paid by the Chinese while Joe Biden was in office," he continued.

"The Chinese company paid Hunter Biden and his associates $3 million shortly after Joe Biden left office as a ‘thank you’ for the work they did while Joe Biden was in office. Members of the Biden family received payments from the Chinese deal even though they did not work on it. This is the type of swampy influence peddling the American people want us to end," Comer said.

More...

https://justthenews.com/accountability/political-ethics/rob-walker-detailed-payments-biden-family-china-deal-while-joe-was


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Uh oh! The informant against Hunter Biden has been jailed by the FBI for lying about it.

Film at 11:00!
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#318 Posted:
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I think he admitted it...
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you're kidding, right...dude swore he was totally legit...


meanwhile in a civil fraud case that was actually decided (not just suspected, or being investigated) in New York, Donald Trump and his sons were found liable for fraud; Donald Trump was fined $354 million, and his sons Donald Jr and Eric, were both fined $4 million...for actual business dealings involving both the father and his sons



anybody remember Ivanka sniffing around and getting a bunch of trademarks for her business in China while daddy was POTUS and when he was visiting?

https://www.citizensforethics.org/reports-investigations/crew-investigations/ivanka-trump-trademarks/


these are real, not suspected events...
Brewha Offline
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We need Kelly and Conway!
With some alternate facts.

Or maybe DMV….
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delta1 wrote:
you're kidding, right...dude swore he was totally legit...


meanwhile in a civil fraud case that was actually decided (not just suspected, or being investigated) in New York, Donald Trump and his sons were found liable for fraud; Donald Trump was fined $354 million, and his sons Donald Jr and Eric, were both fined $4 million...for actual business dealings involving both the father and his sons



anybody remember Ivanka sniffing around and getting a bunch of trademarks for her business in China while daddy was POTUS and when he was visiting?

https://www.citizensforethics.org/reports-investigations/crew-investigations/ivanka-trump-trademarks/


these are real, not suspected events...

2 Billions for Jared (totally Jared) Kushner from the perps of 9/11!
That's BILLIONS. Can't believe I had to hear about it from everywhere but here.
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frankj1 wrote:
2 Billions for Jared (totally Jared) Kushner from the perps of 9/11!
That's BILLIONS. Can't believe I had to hear about it from everywhere but here.


You sure about any of that or just biased
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do you need his bank account password?
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#324 Posted:
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frankj1 wrote:
do you need his bank account password?


Oh…it’s in his bank account? You sure you know what you’re talking about?

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yes
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delta1 wrote:
you're kidding, right...dude swore he was totally legit...


meanwhile in a civil fraud case that was actually decided (not just suspected, or being investigated) in New York, Donald Trump and his sons were found liable for fraud; Donald Trump was fined $354 million, and his sons Donald Jr and Eric, were both fined $4 million...for actual business dealings involving both the father and his sons



anybody remember Ivanka sniffing around and getting a bunch of trademarks for her business in China while daddy was POTUS and when he was visiting?

https://www.citizensforethics.org/reports-investigations/crew-investigations/ivanka-trump-trademarks/


these are real, not suspected events...


Al, really? Did you bother to research the reasons behind this, or were you simply content to rattle off opposition talking points?

She did the same thing other legitimate buisness owners do on a regular basis.

China grants 18 trademarks in 2 months to Trump, daughter

SHANGHAI (AP) — The Chinese government granted 18 trademarks to companies linked to President Donald Trump and his daughter Ivanka Trump over the last two months, Chinese public records show, raising concerns about conflicts of interest in the White House.

In October, China’s Trademark Office granted provisional approval for 16 trademarks to Ivanka Trump Marks LLC, bringing to 34 the total number of marks China has greenlighted this year, according to the office’s online database. The new approvals cover Ivanka-branded fashion gear including sunglasses, handbags, shoes and jewelry, as well as beauty services and voting machines.

The approvals came three months after Ivanka Trump announced she was dissolving her namesake brand to focus on government work.

China also granted provisional approval for two “Trump” trademarks to DTTM Operations LLC, headquartered at Trump Tower on Fifth Avenue in New York. They cover branded restaurant, bar and hotel services, as well as clothing and shoes.

The marks will be finalized if there is no objection during a 90-day comment period.

All the trademarks were applied for in 2016.

“These trademarks were sought to broadly protect Ms. Trump’s name, and to prevent others from stealing her name and using it to sell their products,” Peter Mirijanian, a spokesman for Ivanka Trump’s ethics attorney, said in an email. “This is a common trademark practice, which is why the trademark applications were granted.”

Both the president and his daughter have substantial intellectual property holdings in China. Critics worry that China, where the courts and bureaucracy are designed to reflect the will of the ruling Communist Party, could exploit those valuable rights for political leverage.

There has also been concern that the Trump family’s global intellectual property portfolio lays the groundwork for the president and his daughter, who serves as a White House adviser, to profit from their global brands as soon as they leave office.

“Ivanka receives preliminary approval for these new Chinese trademarks while her father continues to wage a trade war with China. Since she has retained her foreign trademarks, the public will continue to have to ask whether President Trump has made foreign policy decisions in the interest of his and his family’s businesses,” wrote Citizens for Responsibility and Ethics in Washington, a government watchdog group that first published the news about Ivanka Trump brand’s new Chinese trademarks.

Lawyers for Donald Trump in Beijing declined to comment.

Companies register trademarks for a variety of reasons. They can be a sign of corporate ambition, but many companies also file defensively, particularly in China, where trademark squatting is rampant. Trademarks are classified by category and may include items that a brand does not intend to market. Some trademark lawyers also advise clients to register trademarks for merchandise made in China, even if it’s not sold there.

China has said it handles all trademark applications equally under the law.
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Associated Press researcher Chen Si in Shanghai contributed to this report.

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delta1 Offline
#327 Posted:
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so Ant...if China grants business licenses to other businesses on a regular and equal basis, and China is a major player in international markets which many businesses would like to exploit...splain to me this phrase from the article above, that you cited:

"In October, China’s Trademark Office granted provisional approval for 16 trademarks to Ivanka Trump Marks LLC, bringing to 34 the total number of marks China has greenlighted this year,"


I'm not great at math, but it seems in the first 10 months of the year, China granted 18 trademarks. about 1.8 per month. Then Ivanka got 16 in one month, nearly doubling the YTD annual total.
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#328 Posted:
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Wait quick question..::she have an actual business with a product?
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#329 Posted:
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delta1 wrote:
so Ant...if China grants business licenses to other businesses on a regular and equal basis, and China is a major player in international markets which many businesses would like to exploit...splain to me this phrase from the article above, that you cited:

"In October, China’s Trademark Office granted provisional approval for 16 trademarks to Ivanka Trump Marks LLC, bringing to 34 the total number of marks China has greenlighted this year,"


I'm not great at math, but it seems in the first 10 months of the year, China granted 18 trademarks. about 1.8 per month. Then Ivanka got 16 in one month, nearly doubling the YTD annual total.


Well let’s see. Is it only 34 trademarks in all of China or 34 for Ivanka Trump? Either way, please tell us what’s so nefarious. Or are you just assuming the worse simply because her name is Ivanka Trump?
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PaPa...this isn't my laptop, I swear to God! Neither is that one too! Please...don't let em throw me in jail PaPa!


Hunter Finally Admits Joe Biden Is "The Big Guy"



Hunter Biden on Wednesday testified to Congress that his father, Joe, was indeed "the big guy" referenced in an email pertaining to a business deal with a Chinese state-linked energy company that made the Biden family and friends millions of dollars. He denied, however, that Joe Biden ever received a 10% stake as was indicated in the text message.

"At one point, we asked Hunter about the 10% for the ‘big guy,’" Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene (R-GA) told Breitbart News following the first son's six-hour, closed-door deposition.


"We showed him the email … And he said, ‘Oh, that was after my father left office.’" she told the outlet.

Hunter then tried to downplay the 10% idea:

What’s wrong with having a pie-in-the-sky idea? When he [Joe Biden] left office in 2017, it thought he was done. I had no idea was gonna run for president. What’s wrong with just some pie?’ … thinking that he [Joe Biden] could be in the business. -Breitbart

Greene said that Hunter insisted that "there was no percentage for my father in the business," and that the 20 speakerphone calls Joe Biden joined was considered normal.

"He was saying it’s totally normal for your parents to call you," said Greene. "He just totally kept on saying, ‘Oh, this is normal. This is normal.'"

Greene also confirmed Rep. Matt Gaetz’s (R-KY) statement that Hunter testified he joined the board of Burisma Holdings to counter Russian aggression. “He said he was picked to serve on Burisma ‘s board to defend democracy and Burisma was stopping Russian aggression,” Greene said.

Hunter’s stated purpose for joining Burisma’s board is a new claim that indicates bizarre reasoning never before revealed.

In 2015, Burisma was under suspicion of money laundering and public corruption. Prosecutor Victor Shokin investigated the case before his termination due to pressure from then-Vice President Joe Biden, who threatened to withhold $1 billion in U.S. aid from Ukraine if the Ukrainian government did not fire the prosecutor investigating Burisma.

Joe Biden later bragged about the firing during a 2018 appearance at the Council on Foreign Relations. -Breitbart

According to Greene, Republicans need to "get ready" for Democrats to fabricate another Russian disinformation hoax related to Hunter and the 2024 election - and that it would likely fit the media's existing narrative against both Trump and protecting the Biden family.

"I have a prediction that they’re gonna move it on to members of Congress like me and others, Jim Jordan, Jamie Comer, any of us that got hot and heavy on this Ukraine Burisma stuff, that they’re somehow going to say that Republicans are Russian sympathizers. They’re gonna call me that anyway, because I won’t fund the Ukraine war. They’re probably going to accuse us of being Russian sympathizers and falling for Russian disinformation and its election meddling. And then Democratic members of Congress here already saying they will not certify Trump’s election if he wins." -MTG

"It was there’s a really weird theme in there with the whole Russian thing," said Greene.

In November, the House Oversight Committee revealed that President Biden received $40,000 in Chinese funds which were "laundered" through his brother, James Biden, in a "complicated financial transaction" marked as a 'loan,' which took place just weeks after Hunter Biden threatened the Chinese with his father's wrath in a July 30, 2017 text message to a CEFC China Energy employee.

The alleged 2017 transfer from first brother James Biden to the future president involves the same business deal in which Joe Biden was called the “big guy” and penciled in for a 10% cut — and would be the first proven instance of the commander-in-chief getting a piece of his family’s foreign income.

...

The money ended up in Joe Biden’s bank account on Sept. 3, 2017, via a check labeled “loan repayment” from his younger brother, who partnered with Hunter in the venture. -NY Post

"Remember when Joe Biden told the American people that his son didn’t make money in China?" asked Oversight Committee Chairman James Comer (R-KY) in a video posted to X. "“Well, not only did he lie about his son Hunter making money in China, but it also turns out that $40,000 in laundered China money landed in Joe Biden’s bank account in the form of a personal check."

This of course came on the heels of another "loan" repayment from James to Joe for $200,000.

The aristocrats!

https://www.zerohedge.com/political/hunter-finally-admits-joe-biden-big-guy


How many impeachments would Trump have faced if this was his kid? Yeah.

You cannot explain it away.
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#331 Posted:
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DrMaddVibe wrote:

How many impeachments would Trump have faced if this was his kid? Yeah.

You cannot explain it away.

None, the FBI seized the laptop a year before the election so it wouldn’t have been squashed, therefore he never would’ve been elected. And if it was Eric or Donald Jr. would it be handled the same way?
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#332 Posted:
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JGKAMIN wrote:
None, the FBI seized the laptop a year before the election so it wouldn’t have been squashed, therefore he never would’ve been elected. And if it was Eric or Donald Jr. would it be handled the same way?



It wasn't just putting one's finger on the scale...the FBI tossed on the whole body!

I loved it when Hunter tried to say it wasn't his laptop. Then the shop owner that had them because he worked on them and became the defacto owner of them for nonpayment! Hunter and his legal team scream "Russian Disinformation!!!" and "It's not mine!!!". Then deposed him and sued him over the laptops.


https://www.cnn.com/2023/03/17/politics/hunter-biden-counterclaim/index.html

https://nypost.com/2023/06/29/hunter-biden-to-be-deposed-in-lawsuit-brought-by-laptop-repair-shop-owner/
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