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Officials announce proposal that would establish California as separate nation
Burner02 Offline
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A proposal in California has been submitted to the Secretary of State’s Office on Thursday campaigning for the state to secede from the United States.

The proposed “Calexit” initiative would ask voters to repeal part of the state constitution that declares California an inseparable part of the U.S.

A recent poll suggested that one in three California residents would support a possible secession from the U.S. due to their opposition to President Donald Trump. No mention has been made of the president in the proposal.

If the proposal qualifies for the ballot and is approved by voters, it could be a step to a future vote on whether the state would break away from the rest of the nation.

Secretary of State Alex Padilla said the group behind the proposal, Yes California Independence Campaign, was cleared to begin attempting to collect nearly 600,000 voter signatures needed to place the plan on the ballot.

The Los Angeles Times reported that the supporters of the proposal have said California does not share the same cultural ideas as the rest of America.

Similar attempts to establish California as a nation, or break it into multiple states, have failed.

The proposed constitutional amendment, titled California Nationhood, would also ask voters to repeal language that states the U.S. Constitution is the supreme law. If approved, it calls for scheduling a vote in 2019 to ask voters, "Should California become a free, sovereign and independent country?"

"America already hates California, and America votes on emotions," Marcus Evans, vice president of Yes California told to the Los Angeles Times. "I think we'd have the votes today if we held it."

The campaign must submit the valid voter signatures by July 25 to qualify for the ballot.


LMAO and Bye Bye
tonygraz Offline
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Without California's economy, who could afford all those broke ass southern states ?
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Hillary could by the POCAL
ZRX1200 Offline
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And they're gonna defend themselves how.....with dillots dohs?
jjanecka Offline
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California cannot survive without America.
jjanecka Offline
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I'm in support of them leaving. We don't need those commies.
ZRX1200 Offline
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I'm in support on the State of Jefferson. They can keep southern California
jjanecka Offline
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Really and truthfully, let the leave. Then all the retarded libs from other states will move there. After about a year, the US should invade, clean house, and then split california into six states so that they cannot pull a stunt like that again.
DrafterX Offline
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turn it into glass..!! Mad
Just Relax Offline
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Something that I've thought lately that I could see happening later in my lifetime is the US Breaking into different sections similar to what Russia did - though I would say it would be unlikely. There are just too many social issues dividing large cities and the rural sections. Economic strength is what keeps us together and the rest of the world is kicking our a$$ while we try to be politically correct and holier than thou. I'm going make sure my kids know a trade skill and a foreign language just in case the almighty dollar becomes worthless. Not a doomsday-er but not full of confidence in the future either.

It wouldn't be hard to divide really

Pacific Coast
Texas Southwest
Southeast
Northeast
Rustbelt including southern IL
Chicago, Madison, Minneapolis area
and the Rural Rocky Mountain/Plains region

I know there would be a lot of logistics to work out and like I said would be very unlikely but I don't think the idea is too far from a reality that could be possible...
DrafterX Offline
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the southern border of California would be wide open.. we would have to build a wall around California too... Mellow
TMCTLT Offline
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jjanecka wrote:
California cannot survive without the rest of America.



I concur....fog


Without the protection of the US Military.....the Mexican Gov. would OWN Kookifornia
Speyside Offline
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I think most Californians would agree. Yes it's a liberal state, but the crazies get all the press.
Gene363 Offline
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Let them secede, then we will have civil war II, take it back and exile all that wanted to secede to happen days in the great socialist paradise North Korea, win win.
Mattie B Offline
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Tony
You are right about southern states being poor, but why are they called poor?

So let's imagine this scenario played out. I'm guessing Trump would drastically reduce Entitlement Programs.

Where would all those sucking on the governments tit go??? That's right, Cali. There would be a mass Exodus.

The Sip is the poorest state but not because of people like me that work for a living. It's because of the liberals that sit at home and collect their gov check each month.


So I believe the South as well as the rest of the country( less Cali) worth THRIVE!!!

Of course I only approve this if Macs is willing to relocate. I like that guy and I want to borrow his boat.
Mr. Jones Offline
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O.P. is a waste of time...

FEMA will set up "ZONES" instead of state's
Within the next 25 years....
Unless the Muslims take over the world through
"Atrition"
Having 4 WIVES and 22 kids ...EACH.
gummy jones Offline
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jjanecka wrote:
Really and truthfully, let the leave. Then all the retarded libs from other states will move there. After about a year, the US should invade, clean house, and then split california into six states so that they cannot pull a stunt like that again.


no one will move there
they will continue to move to texas and other places with lower taxes and less regulation
do as i say, not as i do
delta1 Offline
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Gonz you guys are kidding, right? You were much more understanding when Texas threatened to secede...and you don't realize how much military firepower, research and development, and defensive facilities exist here.
DrafterX Offline
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Ya, we'll have to have that stuff back... Mellow
delta1 Offline
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I guess Trump will be calling Gov. Moonbeam into his office.
tamapatom Offline
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Mr. Jones wrote:
O.P. is a waste of time...

FEMA will set up "ZONES" instead of state's
Within the next 25 years....
Unless the Muslims take over the world through
"Atrition"
Having 4 WIVES and 22 kids ...EACH.

HUD already has zones.......this is why Dubuque Iowa is part of Chicago and is under orders to not prioritize housing for Iowans because it discriminates against applicants from Chicago.
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Delta, Texas unlike California would thrive without the Federal Government. Probably to the point where the rest of the US would collapse and then Texas could start claiming American lands. We're just that damn good.
victor809 Offline
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So... anyone else realize what a bunch of tripe this article is? "Officials announce proposal"?

Someone is trying to get enough signatures to even get on the ballot.

That's not "officials announcing a proposal"...

Jesus... where do you get your news?
DrafterX Offline
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will you guys be able to marry your cousins..?? Huh
bgz Offline
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California will fall in the ocean before that happens.
Bur Offline
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Burner02 wrote:
A proposal in California has been submitted to the Secretary of State’s Office on Thursday campaigning for the state to secede from the United States.

The proposed “Calexit” initiative would ask voters to repeal part of the state constitution that declares California an inseparable part of the U.S.

A recent poll suggested that one in three California residents would support a possible secession from the U.S. due to their opposition to President Donald Trump. No mention has been made of the president in the proposal.

If the proposal qualifies for the ballot and is approved by voters, it could be a step to a future vote on whether the state would break away from the rest of the nation.

Secretary of State Alex Padilla said the group behind the proposal, Yes California Independence Campaign, was cleared to begin attempting to collect nearly 600,000 voter signatures needed to place the plan on the ballot.

The Los Angeles Times reported that the supporters of the proposal have said California does not share the same cultural ideas as the rest of America.

Similar attempts to establish California as a nation, or break it into multiple states, have failed.

The proposed constitutional amendment, titled California Nationhood, would also ask voters to repeal language that states the U.S. Constitution is the supreme law. If approved, it calls for scheduling a vote in 2019 to ask voters, "Should California become a free, sovereign and independent country?"

"America already hates California, and America votes on emotions," Marcus Evans, vice president of Yes California told to the Los Angeles Times. "I think we'd have the votes today if we held it."

The campaign must submit the valid voter signatures by July 25 to qualify for the ballot.


LMAO and Bye Bye


As an immigrant to Kalifornia from "the rest of America", have since left, lived in many other states and returned (SWMBO is from here) at least that sentence is true. But not as good in the way he means it....
Burner02 Offline
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tonygraz wrote:
Without California's economy, who could afford all those broke ass southern states ?



Skippy, the broke ass southern states will do just fine without Cali.

Also it is great to know that you are not a bigot.
Brewha Offline
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jjanecka wrote:
I'm in support of them leaving. We don't need those commies.

You mean like Trump? Think
Brewha Offline
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victor809 wrote:
So... anyone else realize what a bunch of tripe this article is? "Officials announce proposal"?

Someone is trying to get enough signatures to even get on the ballot.

That's not "officials announcing a proposal"...

Jesus... where do you get your news?

Victor, you're forgetting that out conservative friends invented fake news.
tamapatom Offline
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California doesn't need America...they have plenty of cheap water and electricity, right?
Thunder.Gerbil Offline
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Not the first state, nor the first time, to have someone propose this.

It's a petition, looking for signatures. Nothing more. You guys are getting all giddy and high fiving over nothing.
Gene363 Offline
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tamapatom wrote:
California doesn't need America...they have plenty of cheap water and electricity, right?


Imported from dirt burner plants in the Four Corners area.
Gene363 Offline
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I wonder how they are going to make it in LA without the water flowing inform the Colorado River Aqueduct. When Californians cannot water their lawns or wash their cars they get pretty emotional.
Burner02 Offline
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Brewha wrote:
you're forgetting that out conservative friends invented fake news.



Guess you forgot about the mainstream media sniffing Barry O's butt for the past eight years.
TMCTLT Offline
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Burner02 wrote:
Guess you forgot about the mainstream media sniffing Barry O's butt for the past eight years.




Butt sniffing????? HAA their heads were SO FAR up his AZZ they were chewing his friggin food for him!!!
Burner02 Offline
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Just trying to be nice.
Abrignac Offline
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TMCTLT wrote:
Butt sniffing????? HAA their heads were SO FAR up his AZZ they were chewing his friggin food for him!!!


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