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TMCTLT Offline
#1 Posted: Tue, Jan 17 2017, 6:26 AM EST
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Vacates da White House........

THREE



Not sure what happened to the original....musta upset an Obummer supporter
SteveS Offline
#2 Posted: Tue, Jan 17 2017, 10:30 AM EST
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73-1/2 hours
mikey1597 Offline
#3 Posted: Tue, Jan 17 2017, 10:33 AM EST
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Dang it is gone!

LIKE OBAMMA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



The Libs gotta get over it, they lost, screwed themselves with the big head............. OH NO, Hilldog cant lose, let fix it for her to be the Dems nominee.......



Ya that didnt work did it?
Buckwheat Offline
#4 Posted: Tue, Jan 17 2017, 11:31 AM EST
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You know what Paul (and others here) You are all right. Trump won and he will soon be our president. I hope he actually has the stones to effectively govern this great country better than those who have preceded him.fog
TMCTLT Offline
#5 Posted: Tue, Jan 17 2017, 11:47 AM EST
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Buckwheat wrote:
You know what Paul (and others here) You are all right. Trump won and he will soon be our president. I hope he actually has the stones to effectively govern this great country better than those who have preceded him.fog




Julian, I don't think there's any Q about him having the " stones ".....for me it's more a question of rather the entrenched Dems and Pubes will work with him and his cabinet to get good things done. I share your hope that his administration does what is GOOD for our countrymen and country not what is good for the PARTIES
Buckwheat Offline
#6 Posted: Tue, Jan 17 2017, 12:20 PM EST
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TMCTLT wrote:
Julian, I don't think there's any Q about him having the " stones ".....for me it's more a question of rather the entrenched Dems and Pubes will work with him and his cabinet to get good things done. I share your hope that his administration does what is GOOD for our countrymen and country not what is good for the PARTIES


Maybe I phrased that incorrectly. I think the Republicans need to show they have the stones to work with Trump. Since shortly the Republicans will hold almost complete control of all three branches of government it is really all in the hands of the Republicans to work with him.
DrafterX Offline
#7 Posted: Tue, Jan 17 2017, 12:46 PM EST
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Do the Repubs get credit if things turn out great of just if things go to chit..?? Huh
delta1 Offline
#8 Posted: Tue, Jan 17 2017, 1:01 PM EST
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Buckwheat wrote:
Maybe I phrased that incorrectly. I think the Republicans need to show they have the stones to work with Trump. Since shortly the Republicans will hold almost complete control of all three branches of government it is really all in the hands of the Republicans to work with him.



Totally agree. It is infinitely more difficult to do the work needed to make effective laws that help all Americans. Much more difficult than "just say NO." Much more difficult than continually proposing legislation that accomplishes nothing, just to look busy: ie repeal Obamacare for the ___ # of times, investigate Hillary, name a post office or other public building. Much more difficult than taking the most days off in 60 years, compared to other periods. The Senate averaged a little less than 3 days per week: the House a little more than 2.6 days per week from 2000 to 2016. No wonder the approval polls for Congress is at an all-time low...

Obama proposed several jobs bills during his first term which were sent to Congress for discussion and approval, which the GOP ignored and rejected. They eventually forced him to quit sending stuff to pass. Instead he challenged them to put a jobs bill together, get it approved by both houses of Congress, and he would sign it. The GOP never did...guess they weren't serious THEN to put America to work again...

Trump has talked about jobs proposals similar to those made by Obama to fix infrastructure, that would create hundreds of thousands of good paying jobs. Hope the GOP listens...have sent signals they might...We can only hope...


DrafterX wrote:
Do the Repubs get credit if things turn out great of just if things go to chit..?? Huh


I think they'll get the credit, and deservedly so. Reagan did a bunch of good stuff and is considered a great American President. I hope Trump can have a similar legacy, even if he does stuff I don't personally like. Be cautious though: too much deregulation can lead to bad things, as Reagan discovered when the Savings and Loan industry collapsed...
TMCTLT Offline
#9 Posted: Tue, Jan 17 2017, 1:40 PM EST
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delta1 wrote:
Totally agree. It is infinitely more difficult to do the work needed to make effective laws that help all Americans. Much more difficult than "just say NO." Much more difficult than continually proposing legislation that accomplishes nothing, just to look busy: ie repeal Obamacare for the ___ # of times, investigate Hillary, name a post office or other public building. Much more difficult than taking the most days off in 60 years, compared to other periods. The Senate averaged a little less than 3 days per week: the House a little more than 2.6 days per week from 2000 to 2016. No wonder the approval polls for Congress is at an all-time low...

Obama proposed several jobs bills during his first term which were sent to Congress for discussion and approval, which the GOP ignored and rejected. They eventually forced him to quit sending stuff to pass. Instead he challenged them to put a jobs bill together, get it approved by both houses of Congress, and he would sign it. The GOP never did...guess they weren't serious THEN to put America to work again...

Trump has talked about jobs proposals similar to those made by Obama to fix infrastructure, that would create hundreds of thousands of good paying jobs. Hope the GOP listens...have sent signals they might...We can only hope...

Quote =TMCTLT
Obamacare NEEDS to be repealed and replaced.....PERIOD
They were just trying to limit the amount of damage Barry and his PEN could do in his glorious last year.
Obama created a ****-ton of part time jobs by saddling employers with his ridiculously expensive health care plan for full time employees.



I think they'll get the credit, and deservedly so. Reagan did a bunch of good stuff and is considered a great American President. I hope Trump can have a similar legacy, even if he does stuff I don't personally like. Be cautious though: too much deregulation can lead to bad things, as Reagan discovered when the Savings and Loan industry collapsed...
zitotczito Offline
#10 Posted: Wed, Jan 18 2017, 12:54 AM EST
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TWO days to go for the destruction of America by President Obama to end.

Oh, and to the 50+ Congress man and women who have chosen to boycott the inauguration "piss off!"

I see that the 50+ are mainly from safe Democratic district's where they will not suffer much politically; all a bunch of gutless hypocrites.

And finally I pulled out a 2003 Camacho Liberty as my celebration smoke for the big day.
DrMaddVibe Offline
#11 Posted: Wed, Jan 18 2017, 6:43 AM EST
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...the anticipation is building...I hope it lasts!
TMCTLT Offline
#12 Posted: Wed, Jan 18 2017, 8:59 AM EST
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zitotczito wrote:
TWO days to go for the destruction of America by President Obama to end.

Oh, and to the 50+ Congress man and women who have chosen to boycott the inauguration "piss off!"

I see that the 50+ are mainly from safe Democratic district's where they will not suffer much politically; all a bunch of gutless hypocrites.

And finally I pulled out a 2003 Camacho Liberty as my celebration smoke for the big day.




I like the way your thinking here Zito....will join you in ashing a Camacho Liberty 2008 that I received from Mandoman ( Dave ) while down in Da Sipp.
SteveS Offline
#13 Posted: Wed, Jan 18 2017, 9:35 AM EST
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There's no way to know, of course, but I think I'm even more pleased to see Barry gone than Rickamaven was to see the end of GWB ...
gummy jones Offline
#14 Posted: Wed, Jan 18 2017, 9:44 AM EST
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if some stuff goes wrong at least trump can still blame gwb
that seems to work pretty well
ZRX1200 Offline
#15 Posted: Wed, Jan 18 2017, 9:58 AM EST
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He''s trying his best to make it a mess before he leaves...
Mr. Jones Offline
#16 Posted: Wed, Jan 18 2017, 11:12 AM EST
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Where is he moving too?

How much $$$ is the house costing?

I thought they were almost broke?

F
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M.O.N.E.Y.
TMCTLT Offline
#17 Posted: Wed, Jan 18 2017, 11:27 AM EST
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Mr. Jones wrote:
Where is he moving too?

How much $$$ is the house costing?

I thought they were almost broke?

F
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L
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T
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M.O.N.E.Y.




https://www.nytimes.com/glogin?URI=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.nytimes.com%2F2016%2F05%2F26%2Fus%2Fpolitics%2Fobama-kalorama-washington-house.html%3F_r%3D0


Nearly 9,000 sq ft. but in his defense...it takes a bit of room for that MONSTER EGO of his fog
Approximately 2 miles from the White House....
teedubbya Offline
#18 Posted: Wed, Jan 18 2017, 12:45 PM EST
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DrafterX wrote:
Do the Repubs get credit if things turn out great of just if things go to chit..?? Huh



With me its both or neither.
delta1 Offline
#19 Posted: Wed, Jan 18 2017, 5:38 PM EST
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SteveS wrote:
There's no way to know, of course, but I think I'm even more pleased to see Barry gone than Rickamaven was to see the end of GWB ...


If we compare how GWB left the economy to how it is now, Obama's terms left us better off, as a country. Anybody here suffer a major decline in their personal wealth or social status during Obama's term? Not me. I joined this community of elitist cigar smokers and was somewhat welcomed, so my social status has possibly increased? I was able to retire...

But I had problems with GWB...I lost half the net worth of my 503b retirement plan which was valued then at less than my contributions, and roughly 35% of the equity in my home at the end of GWB's term. The 503b has recovered during the Obama years, and now exceeds the amount I contributed, but will never recoup the losses. Sold the house last year for a little more than its highest estimated value before the crash at the end of the Bush term, but we did extensive renovations during Obama's term, so I lost a bunch in equity when we sold.
teedubbya Offline
#20 Posted: Wed, Jan 18 2017, 7:55 PM EST
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Based on the timeframe giving credit to no one I'm better off than I was. I'd guess most of us are.
TMCTLT Offline
#21 Posted: Thu, Jan 19 2017, 10:25 AM EST
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(1)


ONE DAY LEFT
ZRX1200 Offline
#22 Posted: Thu, Jan 19 2017, 11:24 AM EST
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From his goodbye letter:

"I'll be with you every step of the way"

He will not stop his hope and change tour.....it will never end.
opelmanta1900 Offline
#23 Posted: Thu, Jan 19 2017, 11:27 AM EST
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delta1 wrote:
If we compare how GWB left the economy to how it is now, Obama's terms left us better off, as a country. Anybody here suffer a major decline in their personal wealth or social status during Obama's term? Not me. I joined this community of elitist cigar smokers and was somewhat welcomed, so my social status has possibly increased? I was able to retire...

But I had problems with GWB...I lost half the net worth of my 503b retirement plan which was valued then at less than my contributions, and roughly 35% of the equity in my home at the end of GWB's term. The 503b has recovered during the Obama years, and now exceeds the amount I contributed, but will never recoup the losses. Sold the house last year for a little more than its highest estimated value before the crash at the end of the Bush term, but we did extensive renovations during Obama's term, so I lost a bunch in equity when we sold.


I actually did have a small 401k from a previous employer... lost all of its value last year except $100... wells fargo auto cashed out my hundred, charged me $73 for doing so, and sent me a check for $27... thanks obama...
delta1 Offline
#24 Posted: Thu, Jan 19 2017, 12:17 PM EST
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Dammm, what was it invested in? Who was managing it?

My SIL's brother also is worse off today than he was at the end of the Bush term. He was employed in the oil industry, maintaining and capping oil drilling rigs. His company was bought by another oil company, and his job as safety manager was cut. After more than ten years working there, they offered him a part-time job working on a rig. He found a similar position as safety manager, at lower pay and in a different industry. He likes the job, but not the pay...

Wells Fargo (hope you weren't one of their customers for whom they opened up dummy accounts without consent to make money off of - thanks Obama?), like all the big banks, are truly robber barons that require regulating. I have bad feelings about Trump's plan to over-turn the Dodd Frank regs enacted to regulate Wall Street and the banking industry. Those basturds will never quit trying to screw all of us out of our money.

Even my GOP friends should tell Trump to "Please don't turn over our hard-earned Social Security and Medicare money to any private (for profit) enterprise, investment/bank/equity industry."
ZRX1200 Offline
#25 Posted: Thu, Jan 19 2017, 12:20 PM EST
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LMAO.....what money
delta1 Offline
#26 Posted: Thu, Jan 19 2017, 12:29 PM EST
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Hope they legalize the sex industry in Oregon so you can pay taxes, and into the OASDI...
victor809 Offline
#27 Posted: Thu, Jan 19 2017, 12:32 PM EST
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Z charges you for sex?
Buckwheat Offline
#28 Posted: Thu, Jan 19 2017, 12:33 PM EST
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delta1 wrote:

Even my GOP friends should tell Trump to "Please don't turn over our hard-earned Social Security and Medicare money to any private (for profit) enterprise, investment/bank/equity industry."


A big +1 on that. Mainly because if those investments lose money the difference will have to be made up from increased taxes if the Republicans also pass a balanced budget law.
delta1 Offline
#29 Posted: Thu, Jan 19 2017, 1:06 PM EST
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victor809 wrote:
Z charges you for sex?


We haven't yet...still negotiating...location is an issue...I don't like vans and he doesn't like California...
opelmanta1900 Offline
#30 Posted: Thu, Jan 19 2017, 1:55 PM EST
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delta1 wrote:
Dammm, what was it invested in? Who was managing it?

My SIL's brother also is worse off today than he was at the end of the Bush term. He was employed in the oil industry, maintaining and capping oil drilling rigs. His company was bought by another oil company, and his job as safety manager was cut. After more than ten years working there, they offered him a part-time job working on a rig. He found a similar position as safety manager, at lower pay and in a different industry. He likes the job, but not the pay...

Wells Fargo (hope you weren't one of their customers for whom they opened up dummy accounts without consent to make money off of - thanks Obama?), like all the big banks, are truly robber barons that require regulating. I have bad feelings about Trump's plan to over-turn the Dodd Frank regs enacted to regulate Wall Street and the banking industry. Those basturds will never quit trying to screw all of us out of our money.

Even my GOP friends should tell Trump to "Please don't turn over our hard-earned Social Security and Medicare money to any private (for profit) enterprise, investment/bank/equity industry."



it was a wierd thing and I was kidding when I blamed obama...

I didn't even know I had the 401k until a year or so after it started losing money...

I was contracted with a company to do some lab work... I was unknowingly part of a class action against them, and as part of the settlement a 401k was opened in my name...

by the time I found out about it, it was changing hands for the 3rd time... wells fargo took over and wasted no time at all squandering the few hundred I had left...

easy come, easy go...

if it was obama's fault, meh, I've taken advantage of the government a time or two myself... we'll call it a wash...
SteveS Offline
#31 Posted: Fri, Jan 20 2017, 10:05 AM EST
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2 hours
TMCTLT Offline
#32 Posted: Fri, Jan 20 2017, 10:10 AM EST
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SteveS wrote:
2 hours




OH YEAH.... Beer



Good Riddance Obama fog
teedubbya Offline
#33 Posted: Fri, Jan 20 2017, 11:08 AM EST
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Why did you have edit the title?
TMCTLT Offline
#34 Posted: Fri, Jan 20 2017, 11:21 AM EST
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teedubbya wrote:
Why did you have edit the title?



Better Q....why after weeks of the OP did they take it down????? This is a new post to replace the OP ( I figured maybe it was the organ swallower thingy that bothered a moderator....
teedubbya Offline
#35 Posted: Fri, Jan 20 2017, 11:23 AM EST
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Maybe so. Just curious.
DrafterX Offline
#36 Posted: Fri, Jan 20 2017, 11:27 AM EST
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The Mods are Dems..?? Huh
TMCTLT Offline
#37 Posted: Fri, Jan 20 2017, 11:52 AM EST
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DrafterX wrote:
The Mods are Dems..?? Huh



Perhaps not Dems so much as a Progressive liberal
DrafterX Offline
#38 Posted: Fri, Jan 20 2017, 11:55 AM EST
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Those are the worst... Mellow
TMCTLT Offline
#39 Posted: Fri, Jan 20 2017, 12:46 PM EST
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Mrs. Obama didn't even have the courtesy to give our new president a hug after he walked them to Executive One for their departure. ( I guess she's still feeling unsafe )

fog
teedubbya Offline
#40 Posted: Fri, Jan 20 2017, 12:46 PM EST
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Good lord you are obsessed
Buckwheat Offline
#41 Posted: Fri, Jan 20 2017, 12:48 PM EST
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teedubbya wrote:
Good lord you are obsessed


I think Paul's blind hatred for Clinton and Obama has clouded his better judgement from time to time. Of course the same can be said of my hatred for Trump. fog
TMCTLT Offline
#42 Posted: Fri, Jan 20 2017, 12:49 PM EST
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Buckwheat wrote:
I think Paul's blind hatred for Clinton and Obama has clouded his better judgement from time to time. Of course the same can be said of my hatred for Trump. fog



But.....it isn't blind Julian, it's been eyes WIDE OPEN d'oh!

The real blind man....posted just above you.
Mr. Jones Offline
#43 Posted: Fri, Jan 20 2017, 12:50 PM EST
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Bye Bye
BARRY

I'm still broke..
Why?

Did COMEY give you ALL MY CASH?

Is MY F#CKING INHERITANCE FROM MY GRANDFATHER in your
" ACQUIRED $1-$5 MILLION DOLLAR FINANCIAL FUND" ???
burnem2 Offline
#44 Posted: Fri, Jan 20 2017, 1:03 PM EST
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TMCTLT wrote:
Mrs. Obama didn't even have the courtesy to give our new president a hug after he walked them to Executive One for their departure. ( I guess she's still feeling unsafe )

fog


I noticed that too.
teedubbya Offline
#45 Posted: Fri, Jan 20 2017, 1:03 PM EST
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Yes I am blind lol.
delta1 Offline
#46 Posted: Fri, Jan 20 2017, 1:08 PM EST
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Goodbye, Hope and Change...Hello, America First...
opelmanta1900 Offline
#47 Posted: Fri, Jan 20 2017, 1:12 PM EST
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I dunno al... if all your hope was in a political leader or party, you've probably always been hopeless and just didn't know it...
Thunder.Gerbil Offline
#48 Posted: Fri, Jan 20 2017, 1:17 PM EST
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teedubbya wrote:
Yes I am blind lol.

Too much self pleasuring?
delta1 Offline
#49 Posted: Fri, Jan 20 2017, 1:17 PM EST
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opelmanta1900 wrote:
I dunno al... if all your hope was in a political leader or party, you've probably always been hopeless and just didn't know it...




Just repeating the catch phrases from the two men's inaugurations.

I'm personally cautiously optimistic and hopeful that something positive will come from this change. Trump's rhetoric isn't especially inspiring though...he's prolly convinced potential tourists to stay away from this broken down place...
Mr. Jones Offline
#50 Posted: Fri, Jan 20 2017, 1:27 PM EST
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As McLaughlin used to say.....

^^^^ !!!!! WRONG !!!! ^^^^^

MICHELLE ABSOLUTELY LOVED THAT
FRIGGIN' COPTER...
IT IS SUCH A SWEET AND SAFE RIDE....

SHE IS GONNA MISS THAT COPTER THE MOST
Of ALL!!!!

I BET she FILLED it with
dangling
"PINE TREE AIR FRESHNERS"
For The DONALD...
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