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And people wonder why we have Racism in America
Abrignac Offline
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Georgetown Prof Michael Eric Dyson wants white people to open “an individual reparations account,” he told the New York Times in an interview about his forthcoming book, Tears We Cannot Stop: A Sermon to White America.

The book, written for what Dyson says he considers to be an empathetic white audience, calls for white Americans to give to organizations benefitting people of color.

But more important, Dyson says, are person-to-person reparations like paying “the black person who cuts your grass double what you might ordinarily pay.”

“You ain’t got to ask the government, you don’t have to ask your local politician—this is what you, an individual, conscientious, ‘woke’ citizen can do,” Dyson told the New York Times.

Interviewer Ana Marie Cox asked Dyson whether he would consider the Koch brothers woke, given their $25 million donation to the United Negro College Fund.

His answer: “No. Martin Luther King Jr. believed that charity is a poor substitute for justice. But I ain’t turning $25 million down.”

http://heatst.com/culture-wars/michael-eric-dyson-whites-should-open-individual-reparations-account/
Speyside Offline
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You can't fix stupid.
Abrignac Offline
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You would expect a Georgetown professor to have a better command of the English language as well.
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And many will think this is a great idea... Mellow
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I don't think so... I think the vast majority of people of all races would find this sensational... afterall, isn't that why it made the news?
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Anthony...

The mistake you're making is attributing this to anything more than one loony guy with a crazy idea.

He doesn't represent black people any more than you want the grand wizard of the KKK to represent all white people.

You are right that the posting of this article is part of the problem though. No individual white person is ever held up as an example of all white people and why the race has problems. But that happens a lot here relating to blacks.

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^ Robert Byrd represented me?


I don't think so.
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ICGAFF

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Abrignac Offline
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victor809 wrote:
Anthony...

The mistake you're making is attributing this to anything more than one loony guy with a crazy idea.

He doesn't represent black people any more than you want the grand wizard of the KKK to represent all white people.

You are right that the posting of this article is part of the problem though. No individual white person is ever held up as an example of all white people and why the race has problems. But that happens a lot here relating to blacks.



If it were an isolated incident I'd probably agree with you. But, unfortunately this is part of the current narrative. Current civil rights "leaders" have publicly supported the same idea.
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And the fact that you have noticed all this says a lot about who you really are.
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tonygraz wrote:
And the fact that you have noticed all this says a lot about who you really are.




And Skippy, who are you?
Abrignac Offline
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tonygraz wrote:
And the fact that you have noticed all this says a lot about who you really are.



Please explain.
Gene363 Offline
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Got one already, it's called: FICA

Angry fog horse
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Matter of fact, where's my reparations from the Norse who would regularly invade Slavic settlements and sell them off as slaves to the romans...
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You can file a claim for your portion of the EU Norse Slav Settlement. Contact SLOBS (Slavic Legion Of Brother&Sister-hood), they should have the information to help you collect the five dollars awarded (to everyone with a substantiated claim to Slavic blood). You can google SLOBS for the contact information.
Q
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They highly recommend using....
They meaning SLOBS..
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Everyone always forgets about Heather at the Mann Center
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tonygraz wrote:
And the fact that you have noticed all this says a lot about who you really are.



YES...yes it does, it says he is a man who can read the written word and understand what the racist Professor was / is attempting to do. ( financial gains for the Black community based on White Guilt ) even though NOT ONE person alive today.....OWNED or OWNS SLAVES


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Let's add to that, no person alive today was or is a slave. The concept of I owe you for something someone did to someone else is ludicrous.
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^ obviously you're not aware of our currency, debt, or lack of enforcement of costitutionally limited powers. I respectfully disagree.
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I was speaking about individual private parties Z. How would your above statement apply? It seems to me you are talking about governmental issues.
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Speyside wrote:
I was speaking about individual private parties Z. How would your above statement apply? It seems to me you are talking about governmental issues.



He's got a point, no matter how far the tangent.
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Not sure I follow, perhaps I am being dense. The article said he wanted white people individually make reparations/donations.
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victor809 wrote:
Anthony...

The mistake you're making is attributing this to anything more than one loony guy with a crazy idea.

He doesn't represent black people any more than you want the grand wizard of the KKK to represent all white people.
.



That's awesome.

Georgetown Professor.
Grand Wizard of the KKK.

Your post suggests that their viewpoints have equal merit (or lack thereof).








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Speyside wrote:
Not sure I follow, perhaps I am being dense. The article said he wanted white people individually make reparations/donations.



\Ya, well **** him.
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Tail... no matter how high the education of an individual or how morally reprehensible they are, no single individual is a representative of an entire race. At that point you're literally saying "hey I knew this black guy who thought x... you must think x too because your skin is the same"...

Anthony... reparations isn't becoming a "thing"... there isn't a growing trend of suggesting it. The only place I ever see it is in articles intended to make people afraid blacks are going to start asking for reparations....
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victor809 wrote:
Tail... no matter how high the education of an individual or how morally reprehensible they are, no single individual is a representative of an entire race. At that point you're literally saying "hey I knew this black guy who thought x... you must think x too because your skin is the same"...

Anthony... reparations isn't becoming a "thing"... there isn't a growing trend of suggesting it. The only place I ever see it is in articles intended to make people afraid blacks are going to start asking for reparations....



IIRC correctly there were members of Congress who have on two or three occasions floated the idea of passing reparations legislation. I'll have to look around on YouTube for a press conference.
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victor809 wrote:
Tail... no matter how high the education of an individual or how morally reprehensible they are, no single individual is a representative of an entire race. At that point you're literally saying "hey I knew this black guy who thought x... you must think x too because your skin is the same"...

Anthony... reparations isn't becoming a "thing"... there isn't a growing trend of suggesting it. The only place I ever see it is in articles intended to make people afraid blacks are going to start asking for reparations....


Edit

By none other than John Conyers.

During the 2015-16 Congress

https://www.congress.gov/bill/114th-congress/house-bill/40/all-info

Then again just last week.

http://www.thepoliticalinsider.com/slavery-reparations-democrats-first-piece-legislation-2017/

Seems Conyers and the CBC have been doing this for awhile. Every time a new Congress convenes they reintroduce the same legislation. Not sure how long they have been doing it.
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Read the bill.

It is to create a commission to investigate what the impact was and to provide a recommendation (one aspect of which may be reparations)...
The commission is to be assigned 7 people, 3 selected by the president, 3 by the speaker of the house and 1 by the head of the senate.

It's a toothless bill that is at best looking to acquire a formal apology from the US govt... heck even if it were passed, the president and house could stack the commission with 6 people who don't think there's anything wrong with the status Quan convene the commission and close the entire tging.
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victor809 wrote:
Read the bill.

It is to create a commission to investigate what the impact was and to provide a recommendation (one aspect of which may be reparations)...
The commission is to be assigned 7 people, 3 selected by the president, 3 by the speaker of the house and 1 by the head of the senate.

It's a toothless bill that is at best looking to acquire a formal apology from the US govt... heck even if it were passed, the president and house could stack the commission with 6 people who don't think there's anything wrong with the status Quan convene the commission and close the entire tging.



It nessesary. The moment I hear someone even suggest it may be worth considering I tune them out. Your attempt at deflection though is noted.

Black leaders continue to keep the idea of reparations in the limelight. They know it will 1) never pass, 2) serve to maintain racial tension. At the end of the day, that is what keeps them getting elected. They point their finger at whitey and blame him for their woes. They have a constituency that bus into the idea and keeps voting for them. Not sure what you don't see with regards to this.
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Again you're using the term "they"...
It's a single representative from Michigan. I live in California, theoretically the liberal Hotspot of the US... and no one talks about reparations. It isn't a political wedge here. It isn't even an option people throw out.

You're applying this idea across a broad group of people. I think that's incorrect thinking.
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victor809 wrote:
Again you're using the term "they"...
It's a single representative from Michigan. I live in California, theoretically the liberal Hotspot of the US... and no one talks about reparations. It isn't a political wedge here. It isn't even an option people throw out.

You're applying this idea across a broad group of people. I think that's incorrect thinking.


Reread my post. It's not just Conyers. He's the one who has introduced the same piece of legislation in at least the last three sessions of Congress. The bill is backed by the CBC. Am I correct to assume that you are saying that even though this bill has been introduced into at least of the last 3 congressional sessions you're dismissing it as if it were no big deal?

I'm looking forward to a drive from SJ to Morro Bay. I'm sure neither of us would nap on the way.

Beer .
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How is it that you guys are arguing this crap during a Playoff game?
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victor809 wrote:
Read the bill.

It is to create a commission to investigate what the impact was and to provide a recommendation (one aspect of which may be reparations)...
The commission is to be assigned 7 people, 3 selected by the president, 3 by the speaker of the house and 1 by the head of the senate.

It's a toothless bill that is at best looking to acquire a formal apology from the US govt... heck even if it were passed, the president and house could stack the commission with 6 people who don't think there's anything wrong with the status Quan convene the commission and close the entire tging.



Quote:
Commission to Study Reparation Proposals for African Americans Act

Establishes the Commission to Study Reparation Proposals for African Americans to examine slavery and discrimination in the colonies and the United States from 1619 to the present and recommend appropriate remedies.


So you are saying that they would promote a bill seeking to examine reparations, yet not really seek to have reparations paid. That's like saying you're gonna go to a whore house without an expectation of getting laid.
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burnem2 wrote:
How is it that you guys are arguing this crap during a Playoff game?


Not a fan of professional sports. But. I'm a diehard college football fan. GEAUX TIGERS!!!!
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The sad truth is that there are many, many reasons that our country has continued to struggle with racism. I'd say that this professor is a very minor reason. fog
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victor809 wrote:
Tail... no matter how high the education of an individual or how morally reprehensible they are, no single individual is a representative of an entire race. At that point you're literally saying "hey I knew this black guy who thought x... you must think x too because your skin is the same"...
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No single individual represents an entire race. We agree. (not even worth saying, but I'll humor you).

What I'm saying is that you're giving equal credence.
As a person who values education I'm surprised that you'd say the words of a KKK leader would hold as much merit as those of a professor.

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If anyone couldn't get laid in a whorehouse, it's Victor.
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Buckwheat wrote:
The sad truth is that there are many, many reasons that our country has continued to struggle with racism. I'd say that this professor is a very minor reason. fog



Yeah.....hands down one of THE biggest reasons......is leaving the White House in 4 days!


Race baiting US hating community organizer from Chicago and his privileged wife

fog
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The only thing I saw in evidence of him being race baiting is having the temerity to be black while president. That seemed to rile you up to no end...
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You mean he'll turn white when he's not..?? Huh
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victor809 wrote:
The only thing I saw in evidence of him being race baiting is having the temerity to be black while president. That seemed to rile you up to no end...


So you blame his white half for being a lousy leader and a low grade POTUS.
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victor809 wrote:
The only thing I saw in evidence of him being race baiting is having the temerity to be black while also being WHITE as president was Unending. That seemed to rile you up to no end...



YES....yes it did......ha was Black=ish @ Best whip
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victor809 wrote:
The only thing I saw in evidence of him being race baiting is having the temerity to be black while president. That seemed to rile you up to no end...


Truthfully, we know that this did bother some. More than we'd all care to admit, I'm sure.

But how unfortunate that instead of discrediting those relative few, the left chose instead to dilute this vile characteristic by labeling virtually everyone who opposed him as being racist.

Now we've got a moonbat professor at Georgetown who wants reparations?

He should start a Go Fund Me.

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Being a Southerner, I guess I have a little stock in this discussion.

Slavery was a horrible thing, and guilty parties should make it right.


I will pay one million in reparations to each slave my family owned.

Come on slave owners. It's time to do the right thing.
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Obama didn't count, he doesn't have slave blood like Michelle. I heard it from black "leaders".......
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Buckwheat wrote:
The sad truth is that there are many, many reasons that our country has continued to struggle with racism. I'd say that this professor is a very minor reason. fog


The reason that our country struggles with racism is because every race you can think of lives in this country.

One thing that humans do very well is discriminate against others that aren't a part of their group. It's ingrained into our genome, and it's something we have to overcome. We're thousands of years a way from an evolutionary change in that regard.

Studies have shown this... we discriminate by default... it's a survival instinct that isn't going away any time soon.
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Buckwheat wrote:
The sad truth is that there are many, many reasons that our country has continued to struggle with racism. I'd say that this professor is a very minor reason. fog



WINNER!!
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bgz wrote:
The reason that our country struggles with racism is because every race you can think of lives in this country.

One thing that humans do very well is discriminate against others that aren't a part of their group. It's ingrained into our genome, and it's something we have to overcome. We're thousands of years a way from an evolutionary change in that regard.

Studies have shown this... we discriminate by default... it's a survival instinct that isn't going away any time soon.



Think
so, if there was only one race we'd be ok..?? Huh
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DrafterX wrote:
Think
so, if there was only one race we'd be ok..?? Huh


No, then we would just be squabbling over other differences.
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