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victor809 Offline
#51 Posted: Thu, Jan 12 2017, 12:39 AM EST
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But Fox news released a statement supporting the journalistic integrity of CNN.... Doesn't that mean CNN wasn't posting fake news and then trump is back to being immature?
ZRX1200 Offline
#52 Posted: Thu, Jan 12 2017, 1:49 AM EST
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Our press is largely a statist stroking propoganda tool already homeslice. They resigned from being the 4th estate government watchdogs long ago.
teedubbya Offline
#53 Posted: Thu, Jan 12 2017, 7:17 AM EST
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All of the mainstream press is not to be believed on anything (not everything). The government is not to be believed on anything (not everything). Our intel community is not to be believed on anything (not everything). Putin and the KGB has more integrity than our government and intel. CNN and now fox is fake news and not the 4th estate but real info, reliable info comes from social media and sites like breitbart, infowars etc. double blind studies are bunk because of their funding. Blogs who make their money in unknown ways are the real info.

It's about time all the real info that has been hidden from us forever is now available to the masses and we are ignoring the cabal and it's massive conspiracy to cover up. As long as you pay attention to the right info stream and ignore or better yet pay attention to and denigrate all competing sources you will be enlightened.

Sounds like a recipe for success!
teedubbya Offline
#54 Posted: Thu, Jan 12 2017, 7:43 AM EST
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Forget the fact that a blog got it wrong and CNN got it right/accurate. In this case it should condem the mainstream news and lift up other sources.

Up is down down is up left is right right is left. Anton Levey would be proud.

Are we still with the fact the Russians were not involved in hacking?
frankj1 Offline
#55 Posted: Thu, Jan 12 2017, 8:39 AM EST
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It Can't Happen Here

Sinclair Lewis circa 1935

first you go after the press...
tailgater Offline
#56 Posted: Thu, Jan 12 2017, 9:55 AM EST
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delta1 wrote:
dayum...I feel like we've all collectively boinked the fat chick...


I'd like to go on record as being the first.

No sloppy seconds for this guy.
tailgater Offline
#57 Posted: Thu, Jan 12 2017, 10:00 AM EST
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victor809 wrote:
Didn't he just refuse to let the guy speak? Or did I miss something? Doesn't sound like mopping the floor... sounds immature.




Since when do we let the reporters/journalists raise their voice to talk over the POTUS (elect)?
victor809 Offline
#58 Posted: Thu, Jan 12 2017, 10:05 AM EST
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I don't know. That's why I phrased it as a question. I only saw transcripts... don't know whether he was being called on then shuttle down or what.
ZRX1200 Offline
#59 Posted: Thu, Jan 12 2017, 10:05 AM EST
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Since it's a republican again, otherwise last week it would have been racist.

Teedubya good question, you said they didn't then they did...

I'm not following the bouncing ball, you go ahead though I'll watch ya from over here.
teedubbya Offline
#60 Posted: Thu, Jan 12 2017, 10:21 AM EST
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ZRX1200 wrote:

I'm not following the bouncing ball, you go ahead though I'll watch ya from over here.



You just like to watch my moobs when I jump up and down

freak
dstieger Offline
#61 Posted: Thu, Jan 12 2017, 10:21 AM EST
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The whole exchange was pretty silly. The reporter was flagged before the conference and he'd been told as much. He was NOT going to be called on ....and he knew it.....So, he could either sit quietly and be sidelined for the next four years, go to Main st BFE and work the local weekly rag....or grandstand a bit and let Trump know he wouldn't get swept under the rug ....quietly....yet.
TMCTLT Offline
#62 Posted: Thu, Jan 12 2017, 10:32 AM EST
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dstieger wrote:
The whole exchange was pretty silly. The reporter was flagged before the conference and he'd been told as much. He was NOT going to be called on ....and he knew it.....So, he could either sit quietly and be sidelined for the next four years, go to Main st BFE and work the local weekly rag....or grandstand a bit and let Trump know he wouldn't get swept under the rug ....quietly....yet.




He WAS already working @ what had become a RAG....IMHO had he STFU and behaved himself...Trump may have reconsidered ( I'll bet he doesn't now )
dstieger Offline
#63 Posted: Thu, Jan 12 2017, 11:01 AM EST
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IDK....I've known enough leaders that share some of Trump's 'traits'....I think that Trump will more likely respect him more for being forceful....had he 'STFU', I believe the Trump team would have dismissed him for good...I guess we'll see
TMCTLT Offline
#64 Posted: Thu, Jan 12 2017, 11:35 AM EST
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A few Facts on how this administration took over mainstream media and waged war with any conservative news outlet.



From The Horn :

It’s a fact the mainstream media — which has fawned over Obama for his entire presidency — won’t admit.

But we have proof.

In October 2009, Obama’s White House called conservative media “a wing of the Republican party” and said famously about Fox News: “Let’s not pretend they’re a news network the way CNN is.”

“We’re going to treat them the way we would treat an opponent,” said Anita Dunn, Obama’s communications director, “As they are undertaking a war against Barack Obama and the White House, we don’t need to pretend that this is the way that legitimate news organizations behave.”

The Obama administration followed through with that promise. For years the president and his administration were outspoken in their hostility towards unfriendly news outlets.

The whole story can be found here....


https://thehornnews.com/trump-vs-cnn-truth-wont-show/
victor809 Offline
#65 Posted: Thu, Jan 12 2017, 12:31 PM EST
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Except that Obama did take questions from fox news at press conferences... so you're not comparing two equal things.
ZRX1200 Offline
#66 Posted: Thu, Jan 12 2017, 12:37 PM EST
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How many interviews did he do on Faux compared to the more favorable propoganda networks?

I know Faux wasn't on his conference calls with other reporters he had regularly. Something that was never done before.....but I'm sure if Cheeto does this with Brightbart you'll say it's normal.......Cuz you're consistent n stuff
victor809 Offline
#67 Posted: Thu, Jan 12 2017, 12:42 PM EST
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Brietbart isn't even news.

Fox... sure. Slanted but still showing journalistic integrity on some level.

Don't bother with breitbart. That's the sort of rage that publishes stories about pizza gate or Michelle Obama being a tranny.
TMCTLT Offline
#68 Posted: Thu, Jan 12 2017, 12:57 PM EST
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victor809 wrote:
Except that Obama did take questions from fox news at press conferences... so you're not comparing two equal things.



Whatever.....he and his vile admin. is almost in the rear view mirror, THANK GOODNESS!!!!!!!


He's a hateful / spiteful individual who is also a closet Racist. @ least that's what I dreamed in my fathers dreams

I wonder if he'll take up writing FICTION professionally???
victor809 Offline
#69 Posted: Thu, Jan 12 2017, 1:12 PM EST
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... so when faced with a fact your response is "whatever "


Congratulations on being part of the destruction of our country.
TMCTLT Offline
#70 Posted: Thu, Jan 12 2017, 1:17 PM EST
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victor809 wrote:
... so when faced with a fact your response is "whatever "


Congratulations on being part of the destruction of our country.



My whatever ( used once ) is NO equivalent to your " I IMAGINE " used endlessly because you THINK your smarter than anyone else. And you defend the knot head who was the front runner in destruction of our country. and racial division.
DrafterX Offline
#71 Posted: Thu, Jan 12 2017, 1:21 PM EST
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victor809 wrote:
That's the sort of rage that publishes stories about pizza gate or Michelle Obama being a tranny.




I heard about that stuff.... Mellow
victor809 Offline
#72 Posted: Thu, Jan 12 2017, 1:26 PM EST
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Well... you really have to forgive me for thinking I'm smarter than you. You've left me with no choice.

Please, provide evidence for the accusation that Obama promoted "racial division ". This has been an oft repeated claim from those blogs that people who don't require evidence of wild claims like to follow. So. Tell me.
RMAN4443 Offline
#73 Posted: Thu, Jan 12 2017, 2:00 PM EST
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victor809 wrote:




Michelle Obama being a tranny.


Damn, I knew it........
DrafterX Offline
#74 Posted: Thu, Jan 12 2017, 2:11 PM EST
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RMAN4443 wrote:
Damn, I knew it........



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gvuulZPbfBg

Mellow
tailgater Offline
#75 Posted: Thu, Jan 12 2017, 2:36 PM EST
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victor809 wrote:
Except that Obama did take questions from fox news at press conferences... so you're not comparing two equal things.


Did a foxnews reporter belligerently speak over Obama?
Cause I must have missed that.
victor809 Offline
#76 Posted: Thu, Jan 12 2017, 2:40 PM EST
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Did this guy? As I stated in only saw the transcript. I am unclear on whether he was being called on and shut down, or if there was ano established pattern to who got to speak etc...
This is why I started with questions.
tailgater Offline
#77 Posted: Thu, Jan 12 2017, 2:41 PM EST
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victor809 wrote:


Please, provide evidence for the accusation that Obama promoted "racial division ". This has been an oft repeated claim from those blogs that people who don't require evidence of wild claims like to follow. So. Tell me.


As evidence I ask a simple question:

Who would have thought that after 8 years from our first African American President, America would be more racially divided and more violence would be committed in the name of race?
victor809 Offline
#78 Posted: Thu, Jan 12 2017, 2:42 PM EST
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Did this guy? As I stated in only saw the transcript. I am unclear on whether he was being called on and shut down, or if there was ano established pattern to who got to speak etc...
This is why I started with questions.
teedubbya Offline
#79 Posted: Thu, Jan 12 2017, 2:42 PM EST
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Bret Baier had an interesting interview in which he interrupted more than I've seen before

Then there is Neil Munro of the daily caller who continually interrupted Obama with questions during the non question and answer time.

Tucker Carlson an joint Daily Caller/Fox guy defended it saying

Tucker Carlson, Editor-in-Chief: "I don't remember Diane Sawyer scolding her colleague Sam Donaldson for heckling President Reagan. And she shouldn't have. A reporter's job is to ask questions and get answers. Our job is to find out what the federal government is up to. Politicians often don't want to tell us. A good reporter gets the story. We're proud of Neil Munro."



In fairness Fox is playing this straight. They supported the daily caller and they are supporting CNN.

This **** just happens. I don't fault CNN or Trump for the exchange other than the false news statement,
DrafterX Offline
#80 Posted: Thu, Jan 12 2017, 2:43 PM EST
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victor809 wrote:
Did this guy? As I stated in only saw the transcript. I am unclear on whether he was being called on and shut down, or if there was ano established pattern to who got to speak etc...
This is why I started with questions.


Yes, he was crying uncontrollably and throwing chit and stuff... Mellow
victor809 Offline
#81 Posted: Thu, Jan 12 2017, 2:46 PM EST
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Tail. Your evidence isn't evidence.

A clever person might see the existing racial division as a symptom of having the first black president and a reaction we are seeing from the racists within the population. You are essentially blaming the racial division on his temerity to be both black and president.
tailgater Offline
#82 Posted: Thu, Jan 12 2017, 2:46 PM EST
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victor809 wrote:
Did this guy? As I stated in only saw the transcript. I am unclear on whether he was being called on and shut down, or if there was ano established pattern to who got to speak etc...
This is why I started with questions.


The fact that you haven't
A. taken the time to watch the video so you could speak intelligently on the subject.
or
B. figured it out from the content of these pages.

Shows the same lack of depth that you often accuse others of.


The CNN reporter was belligerent.
He spoke over Trump.
He made demands of the president elect. Told him what to answer to.

8 years.
8 years we listened to Obama.
For good and for bad.
But we NEVER had to witness a reporter do what that tool from CNN did.

I don't care if he had a valid point, or if Trump diddled the guys wife the night before.
victor809 Offline
#83 Posted: Thu, Jan 12 2017, 2:49 PM EST
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Tail...1 video isn't particularly easy to watch while at work.
2... if I used the reactions of this forum to gauge what Obama has done it would be as poorly informed as tcby.

Apparently, this has happened to Obama by a fox reporter... so don't get too high and mighty.
tailgater Offline
#84 Posted: Thu, Jan 12 2017, 2:56 PM EST
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victor809 wrote:
Tail. Your evidence isn't evidence.

A clever person might see the existing racial division as a symptom of having the first black president and a reaction we are seeing from the racists within the population. You are essentially blaming the racial division on his temerity to be both black and president.


Bullsh*t.

Obama was king for 8 years.
Leaving a legacy of racial divide is on his shoulders.
If race relations were better today, then he'd get credit.

I'm not saying it's ALL his fault. It never is that simple.
But starting with "the police acted stupidly" and continuing onto "If I had a son he'd look like Trevon", if you can't fill in the blanks then your bias and preconceptions have seriously deceived you.

Further to your point, if you believe that the racial tension is an actual result of his skin color, then you're literally suggesting that we shouldn't elect black people to POTUS. Not your intent (if I may take the liberty to assume), but certainly a logical conclusion, albeit one that I don't agree with at any level.
tailgater Offline
#85 Posted: Thu, Jan 12 2017, 2:57 PM EST
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victor809 wrote:
Tail...1 video isn't particularly easy to watch while at work.
2... if I used the reactions of this forum to gauge what Obama has done it would be as poorly informed as tcby.

Apparently, this has happened to Obama by a fox reporter... so don't get too high and mighty.



I clearly said if it did then I missed it.

Herfing
teedubbya Offline
#86 Posted: Thu, Jan 12 2017, 2:58 PM EST
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He was responding to Trump shutting them down and calling them fake news and incorrectly acting as if they did what buzz feed did. Meh they were both acting childish but its "battle"
tailgater Offline
#87 Posted: Thu, Jan 12 2017, 2:59 PM EST
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And please link to the story about the reporter speaking over Obama.
victor809 Offline
#88 Posted: Thu, Jan 12 2017, 2:59 PM EST
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Your last paragraph implies I want to reduce racial tension just to reduce it. ... that's like just giving into a child to silence the tantrum

Dude... you provided two statements he made. They don't even seem like bad statements to me... and those two statements in your mind have sparked 8 years of racial tension?

And yet you don't care about our molester in chief's nightly random twitter storms.
tailgater Offline
#89 Posted: Thu, Jan 12 2017, 3:05 PM EST
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teedubbya wrote:
He was responding to Trump shutting them down and calling them fake news and incorrectly acting as if they did what buzz feed did. Meh they were both acting childish but its "battle"


Incorrectly?
CNN wanted Trump to vet the bogus report. That's even worse than Buzzfeed.

Stipulating that their Headline story might be false information and is uncorroborated is not the same as holding back on a story until it is.
teedubbya Offline
#90 Posted: Thu, Jan 12 2017, 3:06 PM EST
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Not true at all
tailgater Offline
#91 Posted: Thu, Jan 12 2017, 3:10 PM EST
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victor809 wrote:
Your last paragraph implies I want to reduce racial tension just to reduce it. ... that's like just giving into a child to silence the tantrum

Dude... you provided two statements he made. They don't even seem like bad statements to me... and those two statements in your mind have sparked 8 years of racial tension?

And yet you don't care about our molester in chief's nightly random twitter storms.


If pu55y grabbing is on the rise after 8 years of Trump then I'll agree with you.

As for the two statements: Not bad?
The Cambridge Police did NOT act stupidly. The black professor did.

And even though George Martin belongs behind bars, Trevon Martin was not the innocent child the media and Obama tried to portray.

The 2 statements represent the type of truth-twisting and racial preference that has led to where we are today (BLM et al)
tailgater Offline
#92 Posted: Thu, Jan 12 2017, 3:13 PM EST
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teedubbya wrote:
Not true at all


So CNN didn't lead with the 35 report that was clearly a pack of lies?
They didn't ask Trumps team to corroborate and identify the specific items that were false?
ZRX1200 Offline
#93 Posted: Thu, Jan 12 2017, 3:14 PM EST
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victor809 wrote:
Brietbart isn't even news.

Fox... sure. Slanted but still showing journalistic integrity on some level.

Don't bother with breitbart. That's the sort of rage that publishes stories about pizza gate or Michelle Obama being a tranny.



Says the guy who like to check everything with a website that has researched maggots in a vag.........you get on with yo bad self.
victor809 Offline
#94 Posted: Thu, Jan 12 2017, 3:15 PM EST
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Dude... there is no actual evidence that there should "truth twisting and racial.preference "... and if you're whining about BLM, then you're probably looking at things from what I would consider to be an incorrect perspective.

The statements really weren't that bad. Yet you've latched on to them.

Think of the tweets trump has thrown out there weekly. Xyz is horrible and overrated... (with no evidence)... such and such news station is "fake.news" (again incorrectly)... it's amazing what you think is horrible vs not an issue.
victor809 Offline
#95 Posted: Thu, Jan 12 2017, 3:15 PM EST
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Dude... there is no actual evidence that there should "truth twisting and racial.preference "... and if you're whining about BLM, then you're probably looking at things from what I would consider to be an incorrect perspective.

The statements really weren't that bad. Yet you've latched on to them.

Think of the tweets trump has thrown out there weekly. Xyz is horrible and overrated... (with no evidence)... such and such news station is "fake.news" (again incorrectly)... it's amazing what you think is horrible vs not an issue.
victor809 Offline
#96 Posted: Thu, Jan 12 2017, 3:16 PM EST
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Huh... so nice I posted it twice.
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#97 Posted: Thu, Jan 12 2017, 5:23 PM EST
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tailgater wrote:
Bullsh*t.

Obama was king for 8 years.
Leaving a legacy of racial divide is on his shoulders.
If race relations were better today, then he'd get credit.

I'm not saying it's ALL his fault. It never is that simple.
But starting with "the police acted stupidly" and continuing onto "If I had a son he'd look like Trevon", if you can't fill in the blanks then your bias and preconceptions have seriously deceived you.

Further to your point, if you believe that the racial tension is an actual result of his skin color, then you're literally suggesting that we shouldn't elect black people to POTUS. Not your intent (if I may take the liberty to assume), but certainly a logical conclusion, albeit one that I don't agree with at any level.



How soon we forget...
https://www.splcenter.org/fighting-hate/intelligence-report/2009/racist-backlash-greets-president-barack-obama
Abrignac Offline
#98 Posted: Thu, Jan 12 2017, 6:37 PM EST
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delta1 wrote:
How soon we forget...
https://www.splcenter.org/fighting-hate/intelligence-report/2009/racist-backlash-greets-president-barack-obama



You lost me at splcenter. In their early days they did respectable work. They have since flown over the cuckoo's nest.
delta1 Offline
#99 Posted: Thu, Jan 12 2017, 8:15 PM EST
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OK...these guys any better? Different messengers, similar facts...Obama did NOT create the racial divide in America...it existed before and during... and sadly,obviously will continue...

http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-obama-hatecrimes-idUSTRE4AN81U20081124
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#100 Posted: Thu, Jan 12 2017, 8:56 PM EST
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Al I'd like to find something better for us to discuss. I think very highly of you and am looking forward to meeting and fishing with you this spring. I think we have very opposing views on this subject and I really don't see us find much common ground.
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