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My first thought when I heard the election results
tailgater Offline
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For the first time in my adult life, I am really proud of my country because it feels like hope is finally making a comeback.


Herfing
teedubbya Offline
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Ok Michelle.
Stinkdyr Offline
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I smellz a whole lotta Hopey Changey cooking on the stove!

Chef
tailgater Offline
#4 Posted:
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I"m just waiting for someone to act stupidly.

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“I won’t have to pay my mortgage, I won’t have to put gas in my car….if I help him, he’s going to help me."
DrafterX Offline
#6 Posted:
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I never got my Obama-phone Damnit..!! Mad
teedubbya Offline
#7 Posted:
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Then you will be first in line for free passes to grab kitty cats!
Mr. Jones Offline
#8 Posted:
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Free CHIK-A-FILA
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dstieger Offline
#9 Posted:
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Mr. Jones wrote:
Free CHIK-A-FILA
SAMMICHES
4
Everyones'

Everyday

24-7-365



Sundays, too?

Yes!!!!

What about those who are confused about their sexual orientation? I bet they don't get chicken every day
DrafterX Offline
#10 Posted:
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Pretty sure Bloody gets him some chiken everyday... Mellow
MACS Offline
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dstieger wrote:
...
What about those who are confused about their sexual orientation? I bet they don't get chicken every day


They get sausage or fish... Gonz
Speyside Offline
#12 Posted:
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I felt soooooooo bad for the whining pundits.
jjanecka Offline
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I went to bed early thinking that I could make it through the suspense. I kept tossing and turning all night. Dreaming of pantsuits and the US turning into a police state. I woke up 2-3 times just kept telling myself, "just check and seebwho won in the morning." Finally it all caught up to me at 5:50am when I had a nightmare that Hillary found out I called Drafter a Mexican and had me publicly shamed.

I woke up saying, "I've got to know whether this is a free country again" so I whipped out the phone and low and behold "El Donal Trompo" won the election.
gummy jones Offline
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seeing the celebs and media (celebs) melt down and the establishment (especially republican) grovel was worth it

i do feel bad, however, for the kids in our education (indoctrination) system who are so overwhelmed they need puppies and cry sessions, etc

hopefully they develop the coping skills to allow them to grow into adults in the real world
DrafterX Offline
#15 Posted:
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we should prolly supplement their income or pay their tuition or somethin for hurting their livers... Mellow
gummy jones Offline
#16 Posted:
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at the very least we can consider endless puppies
is it too much to ask for the government to provide a canine that is <4months old constantly by your side?
MACS Offline
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tailgater wrote:
I"m just waiting for someone to act stupidly.



Wait no longer... Hillary supporters rioting in cities across the country.
teedubbya Offline
#18 Posted:
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Our fate was sealed in the primaries. I can't understand anyone being excited by either of these peices of **** winning.

Hillary is a non starter. I can't understand anyone who really wanted her to win on her own merit. I can understand the anyone but trump stand but that's not for Hillary.

I also can't understand anyone who really wanted Trump to win on his own merit. I can understand the glee in Hillary not winning but not the excitement about trump.

Trump isn't preserving freedom or anything noble at all. He is a hissy fit candidate that won as a result of unrest and an equally bad or worse choice on the other side.

We have to live with him and make the best of it. Truly maybe it will work out well, or it may not. He may give us exactly what he said he would and people ignored or said it really meant something else. We will see.

I hope we don't look back at this a really regret it. We may. On the flip side maybe he will be a pleasant surprise and really lead for the good of the country. By that I mean not be vindictive or petty, not just promote the advancement of his own kind or people at the expense to those he doesn't associate with.

Maybe his ego will drive him to want to be the greatest and to rise above the petty self serving politics we too often see and certainly have seen for the last decade by both parties and he will actually lead for the sake of everyone and the greater good of this country not just the 46% that agree with him which at times would mean compromise and understanding those that disagree with him rather than vilifying them.

Nothing I've seen suggests this as a possibility (nor did it in Hillary) but maybe we will get lucky. Or history may judge this as a dark period in history (and some in here could claim a continuatiation of)
teedubbya Offline
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And protesting an election like they are us absolutely stupid and dangerous. Trump hinted at the same if he lost its just that it manifests in different fashion.

Ironic how the Dems were all over trump for the same thing when they though the win but then when they don't.......

It's a sign of how folks are starting to put party over country.
DrafterX Offline
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ya, but Trump said to use guns.. Mellow
teedubbya Offline
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People are so convinced the other side is evil or intent on destroying the country when we are all Americans and may differ but our goals are the same. No one wants to destroy the country and the other party or side is not the enemy. Compromise isn't evil.

Trump didn't help this with his rhetoric and people like bannon have thrived on this. Someone has to blink. I think it needs to be the democrats. They need to get out in front of it and stop it. And trump then needs to respond by reaching out to them and being like Reagan and embracing compromise while expecting it heavily favoring the majority party.

What obama did to pass obama care is the exact opposite of this and the reaction was predictable and still on going.
teedubbya Offline
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The other thing is Hillary is thankfully gone. Maybe we can start looking at what Trump is actually saying or doing without the yea but Hillary...... chatter to ignore who and what he is (hopefully he is good ).

I think the turdbird on the other side convinced a lot of people to accept things they normally wouldn't.
gummy jones Offline
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lets not forget puppies
all americans love puppies
DrafterX Offline
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I guess the next thing for people to complain about will be his Cabinet picks.. Then the Supreme Court... so we still gots lots to look forward to... Mellow
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gummy jones wrote:
lets not forget puppies
all americans love puppies




Puppy-dogs..!! Laugh
Just Relax Offline
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What gets me is seemingly 90% of the country voted exactly the same as they have in the last elections. The election was won in areas in swing states that had been voting democratic the last few elections. It came down to the blue collar worker in those areas hearing the message Trump was putting out. Maybe many of them still weren't going that way and then they got the bill for next years ACA premium increase and that put them over the top which maybe why the polls were so off. All I know is that dems lost votes in the key areas. More Rednecks voting in red states from hatred didn't swing it. I also know I was wrong. I thought anybody but Trump coming out of the RNC would be a slam dunk to beat Hillary, but now hindsight 20/20 I think Hillary would have won against any of the others because they all were status quo. He also carried the repubs to key wins in close contests in many states. I'm scared at what he is going to do but like has been said on other topics he may be the 3rd party candidate us libertarian kool-aid drinkers have been wanting.

teedubbya Offline
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Drafter hopefully he gives us nothing to complain about.

You sure have grown to love the Trump. I hope you are right.

Screw the puppy dogs.
Mattie B Offline
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Can anyone honestly say the protest would happen if Hillary had won?

Imagine republicans in the streets facing off against the police.
The idea is laughable.

The misinformed democratic voting base is way too emotional. Which is why you see the dems play into those emotions. Which is why you see so many protests. The dem party feeds into the masses.


All the while I shake my head and think, you can't fix stupid.
teedubbya Offline
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Just Relax I agree with much of what you said but have a different take on Hillary.

Hillary is putrid and would have lost to most/all the others. Folks became fixated on the vocal anyone but trump crowd within the Republican Party (I'm one) but lost sight of the anyone but Hillary crowd that is much more massive, has much deeper and longer roots, and transcends party to anyone with any cognitive abilities at all.
teedubbya Offline
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Mattie the protest would have happened in a different less roudinementary form. But trump all but gaurenteed it.

So yes. Not in the streets but yes.

And it's stupid.
DrafterX Offline
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teedubbya wrote:
Drafter hopefully he gives us nothing to complain about.

You sure have grown to love the Trump. I hope you are right.

Screw the puppy dogs.



OhMyGod
teedubbya Offline
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There are folks in here that would have never accepted a Hillary presidency let alone the radicals that promised revolution in that event and trumps own words fueling that speculation.

The Dems were so indignant then the tables flipped and their radicals did the same in a different form.

Yes. I feared what sone of the fringe groups would have done with a hill win. Neither party is clean.

Dem leadership needs to do what trump never had a chance to. Lead their own by ramping things down. It looks like they are trying to. I don't know if trump would have. He may have.
gummy jones Offline
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there are plenty of folks that never "accepted" (whatever that means) the obama presidency
but they didnt burn anything down
at least not en masse
with that precedent i would guess they wouldnt have burnt anything down with a hilary presidency

there is, however, another precedent that has been set over the last 8 years
one that involves endless moral relativity and pandering
one that trades universal, american truths for feelings
one that justifies riots and even calls them "protests"
so yes, what is going on and may go on is fully expected
teedubbya Offline
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You may be right gummy but I'm not so sure. You had folks (not normal folks) promising not to accept it, promising revolution etc, and a leader not discouraging it at best, encouraging it at worst and claiming it was rigged.

We'll never know but I wouldn't be so sure. It sure looked and felt different than before and certainly Romney and MCCain approach the subject differently than trump.

Trump has a hand in this.

And the protesters are idiots. Let's hope they remain peaceful.
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It has been said that Trump has already removed his position of deporting illegals from his website...for someone who bills himself as the "outsider non politician" he's already starting to act like one. That was one of his core platforms and he is already backing off of that? His followers will be none too happy.
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teedubbya wrote:
People are so convinced the other side is evil or intent on destroying the country when we are all Americans and may differ but our goals are the same. No one wants to destroy the country and the other party or side is not the enemy. Compromise isn't evil.

Trump didn't help this with his rhetoric and people like bannon have thrived on this. Someone has to blink. I think it needs to be the democrats. They need to get out in front of it and stop it. And trump then needs to respond by reaching out to them and being like Reagan and embracing compromise while expecting it heavily favoring the majority party.

What obama did to pass obama care is the exact opposite of this and the reaction was predictable and still on going.


day before the election I talked to a very close friend of mine from LA... he went on and on about broken capitilism and how hilldog was gonna right the ship and send us closer and closer to a universal wage and universal healthcare... you might not view that as destroying the country, but a lot of us do...
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teedubbya wrote:
Just Relax I agree with much of what you said but have a different take on Hillary.

Hillary is putrid and would have lost to most/all the others. Folks became fixated on the vocal anyone but trump crowd within the Republican Party (I'm one) but lost sight of the anyone but Hillary crowd that is much more massive, has much deeper and longer roots, and transcends party to anyone with any cognitive abilities at all.


I agree with anybody but Hillary thought process. I am one of those guys. I think the majority of those folks were in states that were going to go red anyway. I'm not sure there was that sentiment would have been a decisive sweep of tables turned where it "mattered". I think those voters may have been more anti establishment than just anti Hillary so if it was establishment vs. establishment would the result be the same? But I also may be dead wrong and don't want to put words in their mouth. I can see the side that you are saying that it would have been even more overwhelming republican victory as well. I guess I can just be glad that it wasn't Hillary and stop guessing if it was another candidate.
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teedubbya wrote:
There are folks in here that would have never accepted a Hillary presidency let alone the radicals that promised revolution in that event and trumps own words fueling that speculation.

The Dems were so indignant then the tables flipped and their radicals did the same in a different form.

Yes. I feared what sone of the fringe groups would have done with a hill win. Neither party is clean.

Dem leadership needs to do what trump never had a chance to. Lead their own by ramping things down. It looks like they are trying to. I don't know if trump would have. He may have.


Complete rubbish.

Liberals act like fascists after a democratic election and you make excuses?

"well trump supporters would have done it too"
Bull sh*t.

This isn't Trump and his supporters. It's the whiny left who need to be coddled 24/7.
Their sensibilities are upset so they lash out.
They're more intolerant than anything Trump has ever said or done.
And your response to this childish behavior is "neither party is clean".

Then you speculate that the dem leadership is doing something about it and suggest that Trump's wouldn't have.

Bravo.

You've finally fell off your fence post.

teedubbya Offline
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Opel your anecdotal comments about your friend are interesting but i think he/she is wrong. I stand by the other side (to me the other side is the Dems) are not evil or trying to destroy America. The vilification is wrong and needs to stop. We are all on the same team. Hillary is dead now. We can focus on what is.

I am very wrong about something though and need to retract a few things.

I'm wrong to speculate what trump supporters would have done in a loss. We will never know, it didn't happen, the speculation is fueled by my bias and filter, and we need to focus on what is happening not done theoretical fantasy.

What is happening is wrong. Dem leaders need to address it and help trump be effective and legitimate without compromising their principles. It can and has always been done until relatively lately.

And trump needs to do the same.

I'm optimistic both sides will.
teedubbya Offline
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Our posts crossed tail.

You are right and it wasn't my intent.

Someday you will be wrong too :)
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there have always been crazies and will always be crazies
they come in many shapes, sizes and colors and all try to shroud themselves as a version of truth

none of us really know what a trump presidency will look like
half of us are just praying and happy to be one step closer to challenging the establishment
the other half is sure the world ended

the sooner we can unite and recognize crazy and its many forms and label it as such the better

we still have a lot of work to do
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teedubbya wrote:
Our posts crossed tail.

You are right and it wasn't my intent.

Someday you will be wrong too :)


As long as we don't cross streams.

Drafter might get jealous.

teedubbya Offline
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I'm with you there gummy.

We have been all to willing to accept crazy as long as our crazy is better than theirs.

I do see this election as breaking the log jam and forcing the Dems to blink. Maybe they will and we can get rational again.
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teedubbya wrote:
Opel your anecdotal comments about your friend are interesting but i think he/she is wrong. I stand by the other side (to me the other side is the Dems) are not evil or trying to destroy America. The vilification is wrong and needs to stop. We are all on the same team. Hillary is dead now. We can focus on what is.

I am very wrong about something though and need to retract a few things.

I'm wrong to speculate what trump supporters would have done in a loss. We will never know, it didn't happen, the speculation is fueled by my bias and filter, and we need to focus on what is happening not done theoretical fantasy.

What is happening is wrong. Dem leaders need to address it and help trump be effective and legitimate without compromising their principles. It can and has always been done until relatively lately.

And trump needs to do the same.

I'm optimistic both sides will.


Whew.

For a while there was an imbalance in the force.
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Tail I totally get what you were saying and was thinking the same thing (not about drafter or pee). I try to be logical and while a conservative republican consider the other side which gets me labeled liberal in here.

I caught myself transcending logic into what if land. That's not productive. Here were are, where do we need to go, and how do we get there.

First step. Stop the nonsense and the protesting. Leaders from both sides have to have a hand in that. Maybe they should work together?
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teedubbya wrote:
Tail I totally get what you were saying and was thinking the same thing (not about drafter or pee). I try to be logical and while a conservative republican consider the other side which gets me labeled liberal in here.

I caught myself transcending logic into what if land. That's not productive. Here were are, where do we need to go, and how do we get there.

First step. Stop the nonsense and the protesting. Leaders from both sides have to have a hand in that. Maybe they should work together?


Of course they should work together.
Which is what Trump, Obama and the Hill dog are doing, at least on the surface.

Don't fret it, man. You get a do-over.

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teedubbya wrote:
Opel your anecdotal comments about your friend are interesting but i think he/she is wrong. I stand by the other side (to me the other side is the Dems) are not evil or trying to destroy America. The vilification is wrong and needs to stop. We are all on the same team. Hillary is dead now. We can focus on what is.

I am very wrong about something though and need to retract a few things.

I'm wrong to speculate what trump supporters would have done in a loss. We will never know, it didn't happen, the speculation is fueled by my bias and filter, and we need to focus on what is happening not done theoretical fantasy.

What is happening is wrong. Dem leaders need to address it and help trump be effective and legitimate without compromising their principles. It can and has always been done until relatively lately.

And trump needs to do the same.

I'm optimistic both sides will.


I think he/she is wrong too, although he's probably gonna be pissed we're calling him that...

he's not a liberal/democrate necessarily... he was a berner... he's a youngish, forever-in-school, single guy who feels drawn to the workings of socialism... he thinks socialism should be instituted here... lots of people do...

it's not about "the other side" being evil... there are lots of sides... some of them are definitely evil... that militia in michigan that wants to secede from the US and start a civil war for instance... and those people who want to do away with our form of government and institute a new one...

I understand not wanting to see the other side picked on... that's not what I'm trying to do... I'm trying to pick on individuals, one at a time...
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The ironic thing about it IMHO is that Bernie might have won the election. Look who REALLY picked the wrong candidate......d'oh!
teedubbya Offline
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I dunno. Proclaiming ones self a socialist may be ok in a democratic primary but it's sort of a poison pill anywhere else.
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That said, they didn't so we'll never know.
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