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Somethings up in NYC
ZRX1200 Offline
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http://www.inquisitr.com/3519501/new-york-city-explosion-manhattan-new-york-terrorism-ied-bomb/
frankj1 Offline
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holding off on linking to terrorism, according to local news at 11:00
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Not alot of details yet.. gas explosion ruled out tho... second device found I guess.... Mellow
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A small bomb exploded at a marine corps 5k event in New Jersey this morning. Due to the large sign up no one had reached the location the bomb was at.
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Good Morning America By DEAN SCHABNER, EMILY SHAPIRO and AARON KATERSKY 14 minutes ago


An explosion in New York City's Chelsea neighborhood Saturday night that injured at least 29 people appears to have been "an intentional act," Mayor Bill de Blasio said, and a possible second device was removed several blocks away.

The mayor said that although investigators believe it was intentional, there appeared to be no link to terrorism.

The cause of explosion has not been determined, said New York City police commissioner James O'Neill.

There is no credible threat to the safety of New Yorkers, the officials added.

Bomb-sniffing dogs deployed in NYC's Chelsea neighborhood after reported explosion. Follow @ABC for latest. pic.twitter.com/fH6uF0hGqD

— Paul Blake (@PaulNBlake) September 18, 2016
The "large explosion" on 23rd Street between Sixth and Seventh avenues was seen by police officers driving by around 8:30 p.m., according to police. The fire department heard the explosion and responded immediately.

While the scene active and not secure, crews rushed in to treat the injured. Of the 29 injuries, one is considered to be serious, police said.

Officials said the NYPD has video it is reviewing and De Blasio urged any witnesses or people who may have information to come forward.

Two law enforcement sources said the explosion occurred in a dumpster, and the NYPD Counterterrorism Bureau tweeted a photo of a mangled dumpster, after tweeting that they were responding to an explosion at West 23rd Street and Sixth Avenue.

The New York Police Department Bomb Squad was searching the area, checking garbage cans, for any other possible explosive devices.

Meanwhile, a "possible secondary device" was located a few blocks away on 27th Street, between 6th Avenue and 7th Avenue, the NYPD Special Operations Division said around 11 p.m. The device was being removed by authorities around 12:30 p.m. Law enforcement sources said the device was a pressure cooker, with a cell phone and wires attached, that was found in a plastic bag.

The mayor said the Chelsea explosion has no apparent connection to the explosive device that detonated in Seaside Park, New Jersey, this morning. Nobody was injured in the New Jersey incident, which occurred at a time when a 5k run to benefit U.S. Marines and sailors was scheduled, but the race was delayed because so many runners had signed up.
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8 people were stabbed at a Minnesota mall yesterday. The attacker was shot and killed by an off duty officer.
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Speyside wrote:
8 people were stabbed at a Minnesota mall yesterday. The attacker was shot and killed by an off duty officer.


The attacker asked at least one of the victims if they were Muslim and referenced allah during the attacks.

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Some what funny watching some of the news outlets this morning having trouble calling the NYC incident terrorism.

Just by the fact that there was an explosive devised used would indicate terrorism whether domestic or international.
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6 were shot in Philadelphia on Friday when a police officer was ambushed. The perpetrator is dead.
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Burner02 wrote:
Some what funny watching some of the news outlets this morning having trouble calling the NYC incident terrorism.

Just by the fact that there was an explosive devised used would indicate terrorism whether domestic or international.


CNN, MSNBC etc, quoted the White House, "Orders are orders."
MACS Offline
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Quick thought that jumped into my head... if the bomb detonated in a dumpster, it is doubtful the perpetrator was a terrorist. If so, they're a very stupid terrorist.

Dumpsters are pretty stout steel, and how many people hang around dumpsters? Terrorists look to kill as many as they can. This just looks like some dumbass trying to scare people.
ZRX1200 Offline
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Well they injured 29 and there was a secondary device.....sounds like an ambush IED scenario to me.
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Could be a test run for something bigger and better for them.
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Or that ^ but a lot happened in the last two days.
MACS Offline
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ZRX1200 wrote:
Well they injured 29 and there was a secondary device.....sounds like an ambush IED scenario to me.


Good point. That was just the thought that jumped into my head after the initial report. I'm sure they'll get it figured out.
teedubbya Offline
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I demand the word terrorist is used because it is important and stuff
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Hehehe....
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I just read "Liberty's Last Stand" by Stephen Coonts on the flight to Korea last week......

Story line (this year about now) is there is a series of different terrorist attacks after which the president Barry Soetoro (might have spelled his name differently) enacts Marshall law etal....scary story.

No question which side of the aisle this guy is on!
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itsawaldo wrote:
I just read "Liberty's Last Stand" by Stephen Coonts on the flight to Korea last week......

Story line (this year about now) is there is a series of different terrorist attacks after which the president Barry Soetoro (might have spelled his name differently) enacts Marshall law etal....scary story.

No question which side of the aisle this guy is on!

circa 1935, Sinclair Lewis wrote It Can't Happen Here
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teedubbya wrote:
I demand the word terrorist is used because it is important and stuff


You forgot, islamic you gotta add the islamic. horse
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Manhunt on for NYC bombing suspect, Ahmad Khan Rahami.
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Glad it was a peaceful act and not terrorism.

Wonder now if CNN will allow Hilldog to say bombing.
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He is a naturalized American born in Afghanistan. Coincidently he is from Elizabeth New Jersey, where 5 bombs were found at the railroad yesterday.
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MACS wrote:
Quick thought that jumped into my head... if the bomb detonated in a dumpster, it is doubtful the perpetrator was a terrorist. If so, they're a very stupid terrorist.

Dumpsters are pretty stout steel, and how many people hang around dumpsters? Terrorists look to kill as many as they can. This just looks like some dumbass trying to scare people.



This part is what I keep coming back to....how many devices/attacks/incidents in the past 3-4 days? 6 or 8? And how many have been killed? Any? We're up against some pretty lousy terrorists.

As is often the case, I watched a news bit that interviewed Muslim Americans. And they strongly said that they weren't like radicals..and they fear 'backlash'....but, still, not ONE strongly condemns radicals...I don't get it. I do always come down on the side of the side of tolerance and benefit of the doubt and am outraged at wholesale discrimination of Muslims. But, just once, I want to hear a cleric, or even regular citizens sound outraged about other Muslims that are intent on killing. Maybe not just once...I want to hear it a lot.
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Man Who Shot Crossroads Mall Terrorist Is USPSA Competitor, 3-Gun Shooter
September 19, 2016 by Bob Owens


USPSA Shooter, 3-Gunner, and NRA-certified firearms instructor Jason Falconer has been identified as the man who shot and killed a 22-year-old Somali immigrant who went on a stabbing rampage inside a St. Cloud, (MN) Mall on Saturday.

The apparent terrorist—who apparently asked victims if they were Muslims before stabbing them—was engaged by Falconer inside the mall.



Falconer is the president and owner of Tactical Advantage LLC, a shooting range and tactical training facility with a strong focus on arming concealed carriers. He’s also a former chief of the Albany (MN) police department, and he remains a part-time officer.

But Falconer has consistently been identified in the mainstream media only as as a “former police chief” and “off-duty police officer.”
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Speyside wrote:
Manhunt on for NYC bombing suspect, Ahmad Khan Rahami.


He is in custody after a gun fight per CNN.
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It's just a workplace incident...move along...nothing to see there.
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Didn'y take long to catch the bombing suspect. Question now is- did he act alone, was he a terrorist or just an angry member of a family that lost a law suit against the town over the family restaurant.
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Z.

http://www.cnn.com/2016/09/19/health/jason-falconer-minnesota-mall-stabbing-trnd/index.html
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Damn those lamestream media, they knew z was complaining about them not reporting on him, so they reported on him just to make z look bad.
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So NY suspect gets in GUNFIGHT with cops.......and gets bail.

Refuge protesters held with NO BAIL on a non Capitol crime.
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Don't think he will make bail, but it should have been no bail.
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Teedubya, yes two days late at a press conference.


Thanks
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Also interesting, his wife left the country before the bombings.
teedubbya Offline
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Z you must watch different news than I. I've seemed to know that information without much issue. Since well before you complained about it.

I don't really see the relevance anyway though. Is it the anti NRA anti gun angle you seek?
teedubbya Offline
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By the way our Sherrif used to give out a pro 2nd amendment coffee mug with every ccw he issued. Not sure anymore.
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It's relevance seems to be many more people would have been hurt. A pro NRA person who was packing stopped the attack. But what do I know.
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For the upteenhundred time...

"Let's not jump to conclusions about islamic terrorists!"













Annnnnnnnnnnnnddddddd, It's islamic terrorism. Brick wall Brick wall Brick wall
MACS Offline
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Gene, you may as well do this for all the good it does pointing that out: Brick wall
teedubbya Offline
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Yea we should always assume that until proven otherwise.
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I must be an Islamaphobe. When a Muslim man creates an act of terror, he is an Islamic terrorist by definition.
teedubbya Offline
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I was in a ccw class taught by an NRA certified ex cop (25-30 year cop). He recommended if we shot someone in our house that we at a minimum throw a bat or knife next to them then went on to tell a couple stories about manipulating crime scenes to make sure the "right guy" won.

It was inspiring lol.
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^ last weekend
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I'd pay to go to a class taught by Vic Mackey....cool....get his autograph?
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teedubbya wrote:
I was in a ccw class taught by an NRA certified ex cop (25-30 year cop). He recommended if we shot someone in our house that we at a minimum throw a bat or knife next to them then went on to tell a couple stories about manipulating crime scenes to make sure the "right guy" won.

It was inspiring lol.


There better be blood splatter on that bat, and not where he was holding on. Assuming a competent crime scene examination is done, bye bye to prison.
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Teedubya, I read the article I posted and ai had not heard the info that was in the story. So good on you buddy you had. Why did you post a link for a story that had the info 2 days later?

I wasn't seeking anything, I was just posting something I thought was interesting.

Your instructed was dumb and I would have told him so. Know your laws and abide them for defense, don't plant evidence.
teedubbya Offline
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He worked for the Med examiners office too. Nice guy but he was dead serious.

He also talked about a case where it was a legit shoot in his mind but the shooter had a couple beers. Ba was .04 done by another cop. They lost the evidence so he did a second ba 2 days later.

On the stand he was asked if he did a ba. He said yes. What was the result, 0.0. They never asked when (intentionally)

Strange class.
teedubbya Offline
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Zrx I just posted the first I saw after reading your post. I actually just wanted to understand what you were saying and why (later in the thread) wasn't trying to bag on you.

I agree on the instructor. Wtf.
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I think what he was trying to say is if you shoot a gun, even if you are in the right, it's rarely clear cut and in his mind (wrong) you should tilt the scale because the anti gun zealots do likewise.

Someday if line I'll explained how his sergeant turned a likely justified homicide in to a suicide.
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I honestly hadn't heard anything except there was a stabeing of multiple victims in MN.....no other details. That was the first thing I heard. I do appreciate NOT jumping to conclusions, but has it been a white dude not OFF DUTY I project we would of had quicker reporting. Just my bias speaking.
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