Abrignac wrote:A bit more complicated than that. The federal government has been on a massive ammo buying kick. I've seen numbers quoted in the billions. Not sure exactly what the number is but its massive. Nearly every government agency has outstanding orders for ammunition. So factories that would normally produce large varieties of ammo have been focusing on the government orders. Thus perhaps they have scaled back non-military varieties of ammunition. Add in the fact that there have been ammo shortages since shortly after Obama won the election due to his anti-gun rhetoric. This has led to ammunition flying off the shelf as fas as it is received at sales outlets. In some cases, people working at retail outlets hold back ammo to sell to family and friends. Not to mention people stocking up as soon as they see it on shelves due to shortages.
All this had created the "perfect storm" for ammo purchasing.
Mattie B wrote:Victor the above is correct. I hate to cut and paste here. I promise you can easily find the correlation of ammo prices/availability to this administration.
I wouldn't steer you wrong buddy. I promise it's there.
Guys,
I have no doubt that ammo prices have gone up since Obama took office. If you look at the spin-up after his nomination in 08, and everyone's certainty that he was going to immediately confiscate all guns to become leader for life (I'm pretty sure that exact thread was posted on this forum in 2008)... then it's no surprise that prices would soar.
The question is whether this is because of anything he actually did, or if it's just because everyone is afraid of him.
Both of you are suggesting that he's manipulating ammunition prices through controlling the amount of ammunition purchased by government agencies (this is a pretty big stretch to begin with, because it suggests the president has the time or inclination to meddle with the budget of independent agencies, when there are probably much simpler ways to take your ammunition)... I believe you are referring to the purchases addressed in this link:
http://www.politifact.com/oregon/statements/2014/jun/27/james-buchal/government-stockpiling-hundreds-millions-rounds-am/
As you can see, while the infowars article jumped on the government ammunition purchase, that wasn't an unusual purchase, and in fact is lower than prior years. According to politifact, (here's the snopes article, but they didn't go back to previous years: http://www.snopes.com/politics/guns/ssabullets.asp) it simply isn't likely that government purchases are what is driving the prices up and availability down. In fact, both articles suggest that it's the paranoia which is causing individual civilian purchases to drive down availability (as I suggested in a previous post, it's a run on ammunition).
Here's a "bearing arms" website providing a graph of said arms purchases by the government:
http://bearingarms.com/bob-o/2014/02/17/breaking-dhs-is-not-buying-up-all-the-ammunition/
And interestingly enough, here's a wikipedia article which says almost everything I just said, but smarter:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2008%E2%80%9313_United_States_ammunition_shortage