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Hillary's probing Shifts into Fourth...
gummy jones Offline
#1151 Posted:
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sucks when the truth interferes...
DrafterX Offline
#1152 Posted:
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So, nothing will happen in the next 11 days anyway... if Hillary is elected she will pardon herself which will lead to an impeachment. .. then we'll have Kanye right..?? Huh
Burner02 Offline
#1153 Posted:
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Wonder if that karma thing is coming around?
DrafterX Offline
#1154 Posted:
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Prolly. .. think it's funny they're demanding the FBI release their documents... didn't the FBI ask the same before she had her server wiped..?? Mellow
Burner02 Offline
#1155 Posted:
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Could be an excellent time for HRC press conferences.
zitotczito Offline
#1156 Posted:
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I did like that Hillary states to get out and vote early, hopefully before voters can change their minds.
Gene363 Offline
#1157 Posted:
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DrafterX wrote:
WASHINGTON — Federal law enforcement officials said Friday that the new emails uncovered in the closed investigation into Hillary Clinton’s use of a private email server were discovered after the F.B.I. seized electronic devices belonging to Huma Abedin, a top aide to Mrs. Clinton, and her husband, Anthony Weiner.

The F.B.I. is investigating illicit text messages that Mr. Weiner sent to a 15-year-old girl in North Carolina. The bureau told Congress on Friday that it had uncovered new emails related to the Clinton case — one federal official said they numbered in the thousands — potentially reigniting an issue that has weighed on the presidential campaign and offering a lifeline to Donald J. Trump less than two weeks before the election.

In a letter to Congress, the F.B.I. director, James B. Comey, said that emails had surfaced in an unrelated case, and that they “appear to be pertinent to the investigation.”




Think


Scott Adams tweeted:

Quote:
Russian hackers are better than we thought. They stole Clinton's emails from the NSA, put them on Huma's laptop, and pinned it on Weiner.

LOL
tonygraz Offline
#1158 Posted:
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Looks like Comey may have no friends, may as well start calling him commie.
DrafterX Offline
#1159 Posted:
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I blame Obama.... Mellow
teedubbya Offline
#1160 Posted:
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If this comes to be nothing requiring further action folks that will accept nothing but guilty will go back to the fix is in and will ignore or rationalize the fact that comeys actions couldn't be worse in terms of timing and damage.

I don't know what the truth is and hate hill dog but let's face it some of you don't want truth or justice you want the destruction of Hillary. You know very little but started and will end on guilty no matter what's in front of you. And anyone saying different is defending Hillary. Anyone agreeing will be met with guttural grunts of approval. It's amusing but sort of sad too.

I don't want trump in but truth be said I don't want Hillary in either. We will end up with one of them. Perhaps Hillary is guilty of something. But maybe she isn't. If the FBI says there isn't anything remotely close "easy call" to press charges all the politically charged experts proclaim the fix. Of course now the FBI is getting it right unless they clear her again. The republicans already say they have a couple more years left of investigations on the subject knowing they can do a better job than the FBI or their own previous investigation.

Putting politics and conspiracy aside Doesn't this seem skewed and absurd to you? I expect answers to the tune of "what is absurd is Hillary blah blah blah", but there is an element of reasonable and rational missing here.

If this proves to be damming so be it. We will have fact, fact in a context that matters. Even if it doesn't prove damning the timing is devistating and feeds a yet unproven, and to investigative officials disproven narrative. But if it comes back as not dammning that won't be good enough, the fix will be in again and that's the only reasonable conclusion.

I freely admit I have a hard time believing conspiracy theories for many good reasons and maybe some bad ones. it's to the point there actually could be one and I may miss it because of my bias. The conversations in here are so skewed towards absurd conspiracy theory at times it fuels my bias. Sometimes it's in jest or to stir the pot or just fun. Sometimes it's drop dead serious like the long length of time otherwise reasonable people bought in to the obviously absurd birther issue because they hated Obama. While some in here were tongue in drafters butt cheek others really believed it no matter what evidence is in front of them. I actually walked in to the trap of pissing a couple guys off because it was so absurd I thought they were kidding when they were not. Almost ended up in a 5 minute herf.

You cry woof long enough no one will believe when a puppy dog bites off drafters junk.

Rant off
DrafterX Offline
#1161 Posted:
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Damn... Sad
DrafterX Offline
#1162 Posted:
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But ya, Hillary sucks butt for sure... Mellow
opelmanta1900 Offline
#1163 Posted:
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I heard tw already bit off drafters Nixon and just started that whole rant as a way to quietly pre-implicate the puppy dog before the story went public... just what i heard... i get all my news from jezebel...
DrafterX Offline
#1164 Posted:
Joined: 10-18-2005
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Comey was no doubt under a lot of pressure. .. too many people went down for less than what he dismissed Hillary for.. maybe he's trying to square things up.. I dunno.. but if he were to dismiss this new stuff there prolly woulda been mutiny at da FBI... one thing for suref tho, if Hillary gets elected he's out of a job... I wouldn't want his job right now... Mellow
teedubbya Offline
#1165 Posted:
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Couple false narratives in there bow wow owie
gummy jones Offline
#1166 Posted:
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tonygraz wrote:
Looks like Comey may have no friends, may as well start calling him commie.


he better tread lightly if he doesn't want to have an accident
cacman Offline
#1167 Posted:
Joined: 07-03-2010
Posts: 12,216
teedubbya wrote:
Perhaps Hillary is guilty of something. But maybe she isn't.

Funny. People have been saying that for DECADES!
The only thing Hilldog has been successful at in 30yrs of "service" is creating controversy and suspicion.
Gene363 Offline
#1168 Posted:
Joined: 01-24-2003
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tonygraz wrote:
Looks like Comey may have no friends, may as well start calling him commie.


No doubt on Clinton "suicide watch list" right next to Anthony Weiner.
Gene363 Offline
#1169 Posted:
Joined: 01-24-2003
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teedubbya wrote:
If this comes to be nothing requiring further action folks that will accept nothing but guilty will go back to the fix is in and will ignore or rationalize the fact that comeys actions couldn't be worse in terms of timing and damage.

I don't know what the truth is and hate hill dog but let's face it some of you don't want truth or justice you want the destruction of Hillary. You know very little but started and will end on guilty no matter what's in front of you. And anyone saying different is defending Hillary. Anyone agreeing will be met with guttural grunts of approval. It's amusing but sort of sad too.

I don't want trump in but truth be said I don't want Hillary in either. We will end up with one of them. Perhaps Hillary is guilty of something. But maybe she isn't. If the FBI says there isn't anything remotely close "easy call" to press charges all the politically charged experts proclaim the fix. Of course now the FBI is getting it right unless they clear her again. The republicans already say they have a couple more years left of investigations on the subject knowing they can do a better job than the FBI or their own previous investigation.

Putting politics and conspiracy aside Doesn't this seem skewed and absurd to you? I expect answers to the tune of "what is absurd is Hillary blah blah blah", but there is an element of reasonable and rational missing here.

If this proves to be damming so be it. We will have fact, fact in a context that matters. Even if it doesn't prove damning the timing is devistating and feeds a yet unproven, and to investigative officials disproven narrative. But if it comes back as not dammning that won't be good enough, the fix will be in again and that's the only reasonable conclusion.

I freely admit I have a hard time believing conspiracy theories for many good reasons and maybe some bad ones. it's to the point there actually could be one and I may miss it because of my bias. The conversations in here are so skewed towards absurd conspiracy theory at times it fuels my bias. Sometimes it's in jest or to stir the pot or just fun. Sometimes it's drop dead serious like the long length of time otherwise reasonable people bought in to the obviously absurd birther issue because they hated Obama. While some in here were tongue in drafters butt cheek others really believed it no matter what evidence is in front of them. I actually walked in to the trap of pissing a couple guys off because it was so absurd I thought they were kidding when they were not. Almost ended up in a 5 minute herf.

You cry woof long enough no one will believe when a puppy dog bites off drafters junk.

Rant off


Wow, really know how to kill the joy vib of a lynch mob. Sad
teedubbya Offline
#1170 Posted:
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I'm sorry
ZRX1200 Offline
#1171 Posted:
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The FBI admitted she broke the law.

They said they didn't find " criminal intent".

A vagina almost took Bill fown, now Weiner might take Hillary down.

Enjoy the show.
DrMaddVibe Offline
#1172 Posted:
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Me thinks Comey was faced with his rank and file turning on him and tossing him on the Kenyan King funeral pyre.

He clearly contradicted himself and the law is blatantly clear about withholding evidence, destroying evidence, and lying under oath. He admitted she did all under testimony yet failed to press charges.

This latest debacle has got to be something. Perhaps it ties the Clinton Foundation to a pay for play with the Muslim Brotherhood with Huma smack dab in the middle directing...who knows yet...but for the FBI to buck tradition and sidestep the Justice Department during an election cycle? I don't think he would do this over nothing.
Burner02 Offline
#1173 Posted:
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tonygraz wrote:
Looks like Comey may have no friends, may as well start calling him commie.




Man of the year in Jul.


POS in Oct.
teedubbya Offline
#1174 Posted:
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Actually he's done hill dog no favors despite the trump rhetoric. Some of it was due to bills stupidity as well.

The FBI decided a crime had not been committed or at least could not be proven. His announcement of such was unusual (perhaps due to bill idiot and the AG pseudo recusing herself). The FBI wasn't going to prosecute because there was nothing to prosecute despite what amped up partisans claim.

Rather than simply not prosecuting he had that unusual announcement and expanded beyond his scope to discuss wreclessness and sloppiness etc. In congress he went beyond did she lie to the FBI or anything relevant legally to did she lie to the public etc. again not his job nor a favor to Hillary.

Then the republicans went on their it's fixed rant and tried to tie other dissimilar cases to it etc. expected.

I suspect there is nothing of value here either but if he didn't announce this it would take on a life of its own later. This is no favor to Clinton any more than the first round was. I don't think comey is in her corner or ever has been. It's just the false reality of the wishful thinking crowd.



All that aside hill dog is a skunk. While there was likely nothing technically illegal done, certainly spirit of law and to me more importantly the culture of secrecy and playing by her own rules are in play.

It's too bad the republicans were not adult enough to pick anyone that could legitimately beat her (ham sammich could have). Any time you think the only way you can win is by locking up your opponent, or declaring them not a us citizen etc you sort of have to wonder what you are supporting.
DrafterX Offline
#1175 Posted:
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Posts: 98,559
I could sure a ham sammich about now... Mellow
teedubbya Offline
#1176 Posted:
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I'd vote for one
DrafterX Offline
#1177 Posted:
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I'd commit voter fraud for one with cheese... Mellow
frankj1 Offline
#1178 Posted:
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t-dub, you are way too fair and balanced for a discount cigar forum. A lifelong republican, and you get taken to task for being a libtard because you don't pass the rigid litmus tests that require instant finger pointing and guilty verdicts without due process.

but isn't it a little odd that this front page news, released so close to the election, hasn't convinced those who buy The Donald's bleating that the media is part of the rigged election that he couldn't be more wrong?

Of all the things that have been covered with big headlines, and considering timing, someone from another nation might conclude that The Donald orchestrated this perfectly. This is a huuuge help for him, and not much time left for it to fade from voters' memories.

As a point of fact, I mailed my absentee ballot today, my vote went to the Libertarian.
frankj1 Offline
#1179 Posted:
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oh, and is this the new 1200?
MACS Offline
#1180 Posted:
Joined: 02-26-2004
Posts: 79,809
frankj1 wrote:
oh, and is this the new 1200?


It'll die out about 2 years into her presidency. After she fires everyone in the FBI and DOJ and replaces them with her peeps.
frankj1 Offline
#1181 Posted:
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Posts: 44,223
Gene363 wrote:
Wow, really know how to kill the joy vib of a lynch mob. Sad

it's not often I actually laugh out loud here...not type lol, but actually laughed out loud.
Great line, Gene.
DrafterX Offline
#1182 Posted:
Joined: 10-18-2005
Posts: 98,559
If you listen to the libertarian judge's opinion of how the investigation went down it would make you wonder. .. I'm playing on my phone right now so I can't provide a link.. in his opinion the investigation was severely screwed and most likely because of a higher power... Obama sent and received e-mails to the unsecured server... he's got to protect his legacy and stuff. .. Mellow
Gene363 Offline
#1183 Posted:
Joined: 01-24-2003
Posts: 30,834
DrMaddVibe wrote:
Me thinks Comey was faced with his rank and file turning on him and tossing him on the Kenyan King funeral pyre.

He clearly contradicted himself and the law is blatantly clear about withholding evidence, destroying evidence, and lying under oath. He admitted she did all under testimony yet failed to press charges.

This latest debacle has got to be something. Perhaps it ties the Clinton Foundation to a pay for play with the Muslim Brotherhood with Huma smack dab in the middle directing...who knows yet...but for the FBI to buck tradition and sidestep the Justice Department during an election cycle? I don't think he would do this over nothing.


When Comey did the original announcement I felt like he was told not file charges so he did/said everything but file charges. Now either his minions rebelled or showed hime something he just cannot sweep under the rug.
Gene363 Offline
#1184 Posted:
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frankj1 wrote:
it's not often I actually laugh out loud here...not type lol, but actually laughed out loud.
Great line, Gene.


Herfing

Honestly, I think we all agree here a heck of a lot more than we'd like to admit, we just like to argue.
DrafterX Offline
#1185 Posted:
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Wiping the server after being told to disclose it's contents was a felony... but it was overlooked. .. Mellow
Gene363 Offline
#1186 Posted:
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DrafterX wrote:
Wiping the server after being told to disclose it's contents was a felony... but it was overlooked. .. Mellow


Not what Bill said to Loretta who told Comey it was A-OK,
DrafterX Offline
#1187 Posted:
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So many things... but there wasn't a conviction so it didn't happen. .. Mellow
frankj1 Offline
#1188 Posted:
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Gene363 wrote:
Herfing

Honestly, I think we all agree here a heck of a lot more than we'd like to admit, we just like to argue.

that's why we all stay here!
cacman Offline
#1189 Posted:
Joined: 07-03-2010
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MACS wrote:
It'll die out about 2 [months] into her presidency. After she fires everyone in the FBI and DOJ and replaces them with her peeps.

Commie will be gone, but after Bill's cozy conversation with Lynch she will stay.
Scary to think what high-paying donor Hilldog will appoint to the Supreme Court?!?!

Said it before, Obama will pardon her before he leaves office, or Hilldog will pardon herself. The American people will again excuse and ignore the Clinton's actions, and Huma Adedien will take the fall with her Weiner husband. Everyone else has been granted immunity. There's no on left for the scapegoat. After all, someone has to pay to please the public.
DrafterX Offline
#1190 Posted:
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She can be impeached... but then we'll have Kanye for President... Mellow
TMCTLT Offline
#1191 Posted:
Joined: 11-22-2007
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teedubbya wrote:
If this comes to be nothing requiring further action folks that will accept nothing but guilty will go back to the fix is in and will ignore or rationalize the fact that comeys actions couldn't be worse in terms of timing and damage.

I don't know what the truth is and hate hill dog but let's face it some of you don't want truth or justice you want the destruction of Hillary. You know very little but started and will end on guilty no matter what's in front of you. And anyone saying different is defending Hillary. Anyone agreeing will be met with guttural grunts of approval. It's amusing but sort of sad too.

I don't want trump in but truth be said I don't want Hillary in either. We will end up with one of them. Perhaps Hillary is guilty of something. But maybe she isn't. If the FBI says there isn't anything remotely close "easy call" to press charges all the politically charged experts proclaim the fix. Of course now the FBI is getting it right unless they clear her again. The republicans already say they have a couple more years left of investigations on the subject knowing they can do a better job than the FBI or their own previous investigation.

Putting politics and conspiracy aside Doesn't this seem skewed and absurd to you? I expect answers to the tune of "what is absurd is Hillary blah blah blah", but there is an element of reasonable and rational missing here.

If this proves to be damming so be it. We will have fact, fact in a context that matters. Even if it doesn't prove damning the timing is devistating and feeds a yet unproven, and to investigative officials disproven narrative. But if it comes back as not dammning that won't be good enough, the fix will be in again and that's the only reasonable conclusion.

I freely admit I have a hard time believing conspiracy theories for many good reasons and maybe some bad ones. it's to the point there actually could be one and I may miss it because of my bias. The conversations in here are so skewed towards absurd conspiracy theory at times it fuels my bias. Sometimes it's in jest or to stir the pot or just fun. Sometimes it's drop dead serious like the long length of time otherwise reasonable people bought in to the obviously absurd birther issue because they hated Obama. While some in here were tongue in drafters butt cheek others really believed it no matter what evidence is in front of them. I actually walked in to the trap of pissing a couple guys off because it was so absurd I thought they were kidding when they were not. Almost ended up in a 5 minute herf.

You cry woof long enough no one will believe when a puppy dog bites off drafters junk.

Rant off



Perhaps that issue had a little something to do with the POS sealing all of his records....and that he's been proven a bald face liar on many levels. But...BUT he is an eloquent speaker, he does have that going for him. :)
DrafterX Offline
#1192 Posted:
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I heard Hillary started the birther thing... Mellow
Burner02 Offline
#1193 Posted:
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Abedin reportedly pleads ignorance of how emails at center of latest Clinton probe got on computer

Hillary Clinton aide Huma Abedin reportedly has said she does not know how tens of thousands of emails related to the FBI investigation of her boss' personal server were found on a laptop she shared with her now-estranged husband, former New York Congressman Anthony Weiner.

The Washington Post reported that Abedin was not a regular user of the laptop in question. The paper also reported that Abedin's lawyers did not bother to search the device for work-related emails after she agreed to turn over such messages to the State Department.

On Saturday, a senior law enforcement official told Fox News that the laptop contained "five digits," or at least 10,000, emails of interest to investigators.

The source also told Fox News that law enforcement officials think it's highly unlikely that all of the newfound emails are duplicates, as the Clinton campaign has suggested. The Post reported, citing former FBI officials, that investigators would likely use a computer program to weed out duplicate emails before examining the remaining messages for possible criminality.

Meanwhile, The New York Times reported that several Clinton allies have suggested the Democratic nominee distance herself from Abedin, who has had a professional relationship with Clinton for two decades. In that capacity, Clinton's team defended an unusual employment arrangement in which Abedin was paid by the Clinton Foundation, a consulting firm called Teneo and the State Department all at once.

Clinton also stood by Abedin when Weiner's first online sex scandal cost him his seat in Congress, and when his second imploded his bid for New York mayor. When Abedin announced her separation from Weiner earlier this year, it was Clinton's campaign that sent her statement to reporters.

Others suggested to the Times that the latest twist in the email investigation would make it impossible for Clinton to make Abedin part of her White House team if she is elected president next month. The paper also reported that Abedin did not travel with Clinton on a swing through Florida Saturday, instead working out of the campaign's Brooklyn headquarters.

"We of course stand behind her," Clinton campaign chairman John Podesta told reporters, adding Abedin has "completely and voluntarily complied with and cooperated with the investigation."

The Post reported that Abedin gave a sworn deposition this past June, saying that she had "looked for all the devices that may have any of my State Department work on it and ... gave them to my attorneys for them to review for all relevant documents."

Two months earlier, Abedin told the FBI that her attorneys had asked the State Department about how to conduct a review of work messages from her personal laptop and Blackberry, but received no response.

The FBI announced Friday that it had restarted an investigation into emails Clinton sent on a private server system while secretary of state, as a result of a probe into Weiner's, “sexting,” or sending sexually-suggestive electronic messages, to a teenage girl.

The FBI conducted a roughly two-year investigation into Clinton’s use of a private server system, finding several emails marked as classified and concluding that she had been “extremely careless.” However, the agency did not find evidence that Clinton had been criminally negligent and did not recommend criminal charges to the Justice Department.

DrafterX Offline
#1194 Posted:
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10,000 emails that aren't suppose to exist.. Think
cacman Offline
#1195 Posted:
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The American people should have been notified and have a right to know BEFORE the election. What ever law there is that prevents info from being released to the public before an election is simply wrong, and probably written by a Democrat.

Some one under FBI investigation should not be allowed to even run for POTUS. What are we going to do if Hilldog is elected, and is then found guilty of her illegal actions as Secretary of State? Does the Federal Prison system have a work-release program for the POTUS?
DrMaddVibe Offline
#1196 Posted:
Joined: 10-21-2000
Posts: 55,489
When a Chicago newspaper is telling a Democrat candidate to step down...Um...Houston, er Chicago we got a problem!!!

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/columnists/kass/ct-hillary-clinton-emails-kass-1030-20161028-column.html


She rigged the primary, she's rigging this and we don't deserve her lying ass to be anywhere near the White House unless she's doing community service and picking up cigarette butts!
DrMaddVibe Offline
#1197 Posted:
Joined: 10-21-2000
Posts: 55,489
DrafterX wrote:
10,000 emails that aren't suppose to exist.. Think



Up to 650,000 now!!!!


Mine that megadata for gold!!!
DrafterX Offline
#1198 Posted:
Joined: 10-18-2005
Posts: 98,559
she coulda saved us all including herself a whole lotta time and troubles if she woulda just complied two years ago... Mellow
gummy jones Offline
#1199 Posted:
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https://pics.onsizzle.com/candidate-misdeed-comparison-leaked-us-said-security-mean-secrets-things-3267932.png

Think
DrafterX Offline
#1200 Posted:
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Posts: 98,559
they could post that pic at the voting booths and people would still vote for her... Not talking
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