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Reaper0582 Offline
#1 Posted: Thu, May 26 2011, 1:25 PM EST
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I little while back, I purchased a CI smiley face humification disk for an old humidor that I had, it was my first one and I've had it since I was 18 (11 years) and needed to replace the old disk. I set it up, put some sticks in it and gave the box to my mom, (yes she loves cigars). A while later, she comes up to me and says that the box smelled funny and the cigars tasted weird, so I lit one up and noticed the same thing. I lit another after just in case it was me and I got the same thing. It ruined the box as well as the cigars, plus I annoyed and angry my mother had to experience this.... Check your disks ppl


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Mojorisin Offline
#2 Posted: Thu, May 26 2011, 1:50 PM EST
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Wow, exactly what happened here, if you don't mind me asking ?
fishinguitarman Offline
#3 Posted: Thu, May 26 2011, 1:51 PM EST
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Shhhhh


Trish is scoping this out...Anxious
Reaper0582 Offline
#4 Posted: Thu, May 26 2011, 1:54 PM EST
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Mojorisin wrote:
Wow, exactly what happened here, if you don't mind me asking ?


See the metal mesh keeping the beads in? It rusted and that rust smell and taste spread throughout the box.
Reaper0582 Offline
#5 Posted: Thu, May 26 2011, 1:55 PM EST
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fishinguitarman wrote:
Shhhhh


Trish is scoping this out...Anxious




Whistle
Reaper0582 Offline
#6 Posted: Thu, May 26 2011, 2:00 PM EST
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I have to say, this is the only issue I've ever had with a product, I still love CI and will continue to purchase from here.... Just a FYI

Herfing
TIGERCDW Offline
#7 Posted: Thu, May 26 2011, 2:06 PM EST
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Don't even mess with these things.

Air out your Humi.
Throw that crap away.
Clean it with distilled water.
Add BEADS to it.
Snap it back together.
Wet it and forget it.


TIGER
Reaper0582 Offline
#8 Posted: Thu, May 26 2011, 2:20 PM EST
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TIGERCDW wrote:
Don't even mess with these things.

Air out your Humi.
Throw that crap away.
Clean it with distilled water.
Add BEADS to it.
Snap it back together.
Wet it and forget it.


TIGER



Yeah, I'm doing that.... I'm just venting horse
SteveR@CigarBid Offline
#9 Posted: Thu, May 26 2011, 2:29 PM EST
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Reaper0582 - Trish is working on this now. I have to ask, have you been using tap water? It's very important to use only distilled water. This is the first time I've seen this happen. Scary.
Reaper0582 Offline
#10 Posted: Thu, May 26 2011, 2:32 PM EST
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SteveR@CigarBid wrote:
Reaper0582 - Trish is working on this now. I have to ask, have you been using tap water? It's very important to use only distilled water. This is the first time I've seen this happen. Scary.



I only use distilled water, I've been enjoying cigars since I was a teen, plus I grow the stuff lol
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#11 Posted: Thu, May 26 2011, 2:34 PM EST
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SteveR@CigarBid wrote:
Reaper0582 - Trish is working on this now. I have to ask, have you been using tap water? It's very important to use only distilled water. This is the first time I've seen this happen. Scary.


EXACTLY what I was thinking...
Reaper0582 Offline
#12 Posted: Thu, May 26 2011, 2:37 PM EST
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When I opened it, it scared the crap out of me, I even double and triple checked the bottle just to make sure that it was distilled, then I had to check the other humi I have just in case, and nope this was the only one... I got an answer from customer service to a technique on how to possibly fix the issue at least with the box, which at this point I'm will to try anything... However I gave the box to my mom and fully stocked her, and I'm down an entire box of sticks... Thats my issue..


I don't want this to happen to anyone else.
Reaper0582 Offline
#13 Posted: Thu, May 26 2011, 2:40 PM EST
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I don't need them replaced, so don't worry..
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#14 Posted: Thu, May 26 2011, 2:40 PM EST
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Reaper0582 wrote:
I have to say, this is the only issue I've ever had with a product, I still love CI and will continue to purchase from here.... Just a FYI

Herfing



Thank you for still loving us Reaper! I'm so sorry this happened to you and really dumbfounded, I showed the picture to our Merchandising Team to get their ideas and opinions. Most of us have been using these things since we first started selling them and this is truly a first for us.

We need to get it back so we can send it off to the manufacturer. You've been working with Christy so she'll provide more details. We'll work with you on some of the other issues as well.

Thanks for bringing it to our attention!
Reaper0582 Offline
#15 Posted: Thu, May 26 2011, 2:45 PM EST
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TrishS@CigarBid wrote:
Thank you for still loving us Reaper! I'm so sorry this happened to you and really dumbfounded, I showed the picture to our Merchandising Team to get their ideas and opinions. Most of us have been using these things since we first started selling them and this is truly a first for us.

We need to get it back so we can send it off to the manufacturer. You've been working with Christy so she'll provide more details. We'll work with you on some of the other issues as well.

Thanks for bringing it to our attention!



Sure, btw pm me an email address, I have better pics.
Reaper0582 Offline
#16 Posted: Thu, May 26 2011, 3:05 PM EST
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Ok trish email set.
DrafterX Offline
#17 Posted: Thu, May 26 2011, 3:06 PM EST
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this would never have happened with lettuce.... Mellow
Reaper0582 Offline
#18 Posted: Thu, May 26 2011, 3:07 PM EST
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DrafterX wrote:
this would never have happened with lettuce.... Mellow



Dude whats with you and lettuce? d'oh!
Nicar Offline
#19 Posted: Thu, May 26 2011, 3:11 PM EST
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I blame obummer for it!
elk hunter Offline
#20 Posted: Thu, May 26 2011, 3:25 PM EST
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Isn't the mesh stainless?
Reaper0582 Offline
#21 Posted: Thu, May 26 2011, 3:33 PM EST
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elk hunter wrote:
Isn't the mesh stainless?


Idk
BDS12 Offline
#22 Posted: Thu, May 26 2011, 3:33 PM EST
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Have been using 1 of these for 2 months now, so far no problems, but you can bet I'm gonna take a second look at it tonight.
ZRX1200 Offline
#23 Posted: Thu, May 26 2011, 3:36 PM EST
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I blame Bush.
TIGERCDW Offline
#24 Posted: Thu, May 26 2011, 3:45 PM EST
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elk hunter wrote:
Isn't the mesh stainless?



Yes the mesh is stainless.

It can not be rust.

IMO.By looking at the crystals it seems to be that they were cross contaminated with something.

It looks as though one or some of them my have ruptured and spilled out onto the screen.

Thus discoloring it.

TIGER
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#25 Posted: Thu, May 26 2011, 3:51 PM EST
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TIGERCDW wrote:
Yes the mesh is stainless.

It can not be rust.

IMO.By looking at the crystals it seems to be that they were cross contaminated with something.

It looks as though one or some of them my have ruptured and spilled out onto the screen.

Thus discoloring it.

TIGER



No, the mesh is rusted, you should see the pic.
DrafterX Offline
#26 Posted: Thu, May 26 2011, 3:52 PM EST
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well water..... Mellow
Nicar Offline
#27 Posted: Thu, May 26 2011, 3:54 PM EST
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Big Red
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#28 Posted: Thu, May 26 2011, 3:56 PM EST
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ZRX1200 wrote:
I blame Bush.


You cant blame bush alittle bush is always good BigGrin
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#29 Posted: Thu, May 26 2011, 4:01 PM EST
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That REALLY sucks. The humidor I am sure will make it. Sadly the cigars probably won't.
Reaper0582 Offline
#30 Posted: Thu, May 26 2011, 4:05 PM EST
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nnightmar wrote:
That REALLY sucks. The humidor I am sure will make it. Sadly the cigars probably won't.



Yeah I'm gonna work on it over the weekend, as for the sticks.... They're gonners. No worries, I have another box for her and I'll find some more for her.

Herfing
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#31 Posted: Thu, May 26 2011, 5:21 PM EST
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TIGERCDW wrote:
Yes the mesh is SUPPOSED TO BE stainless.

These things are made in China though.


Fixed it for you.
Reaper0582 Offline
#32 Posted: Thu, May 26 2011, 5:24 PM EST
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Hahahahahahahahahaha!!! Applause Applause
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#33 Posted: Thu, May 26 2011, 6:03 PM EST
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It just so happens that I have a freebie box looking for a good home. PM me your addie and we'll get your mother taken care of........

Oh, I always put my beads in plastic - I never have a rust issue. And, I've never seen anything rust like that....weird........distilled water is critical in a clean process.
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#34 Posted: Thu, May 26 2011, 7:12 PM EST
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Whether the water was distilled or not. If it is not galvanized or stainless steel it will rust, distilled or not.
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#35 Posted: Thu, May 26 2011, 8:47 PM EST
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Trust me ppls, I know about distilled water, but as said above, if its not galvanized, it'll still rust. And I've never seen this either that's why I'm so weirded out!
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#36 Posted: Thu, May 26 2011, 9:34 PM EST
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TIGERCDW wrote:
Yes the mesh is stainless.

It can not be rust.

IMO.By looking at the crystals it seems to be that they were cross contaminated with something.

It looks as though one or some of them my have ruptured and spilled out onto the screen.

Thus discoloring it.

TIGER


I agree, I deal with this alot where I work, the product/cleaning acids/glycol/ will turn 316 stainless a rust color, which is actually called rouge. The stainless then needs to be derouged using other chemicals.
There's no doubt that a bead or 2 broke and caused the bad smell and taste, and the rust/rouge of the stainless screen.

BD
Reaper0582 Offline
#37 Posted: Thu, May 26 2011, 10:19 PM EST
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Yeah, but the mesh was eaten away...
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#38 Posted: Thu, May 26 2011, 10:26 PM EST
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Umm i dont know what kind of stainless steel your used to working with but it takes quite a lot to make it rust. Tap water wouldnt do that. We run acid, caustic and other chems through stainless pipe all the time. No rust.
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#39 Posted: Thu, May 26 2011, 10:27 PM EST
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Hmm i recant that. Low grade stainless maybe.
BDS12 Offline
#40 Posted: Thu, May 26 2011, 11:14 PM EST
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Squidward wrote:
Hmm i recant that. Low grade stainless maybe.


Nope, 316 and again not rust, rouge
BDS12 Offline
#41 Posted: Thu, May 26 2011, 11:16 PM EST
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Reaper0582 wrote:
Yeah, but the mesh was eaten away...


Could be that one wasn't stainless
TTHunter Offline
#42 Posted: Thu, May 26 2011, 11:26 PM EST
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How do we know it is 316. There are so many grades of stainless.

When I was new at cigars and was given a humi for xmas by my wife I put tap water in it. It rusted and ever since I have used distilled and also I stay away from metal. I only use the block humidifiers that are all plastic.

Mostly now I just use beads. Even in my big humi with 4 humidifiers I have several pounds of beads in there just to keep things stable.
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#43 Posted: Fri, May 27 2011, 12:31 AM EST
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Well, if you've seen that disk, its the beads inside the plastic covered by the mesh... And I think I'm gonna have to just find the plain beads from now on.
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#44 Posted: Fri, May 27 2011, 1:37 AM EST
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Reaper0582 wrote:
Well, if you've seen that disk, its the beads inside the plastic covered by the mesh... And I think I'm gonna have to just find the plain beads from now on.


De ja vu
BDS12 Offline
#45 Posted: Fri, May 27 2011, 1:39 AM EST
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TTHunter wrote:
How do we know it is 316. There are so many grades of stainless.

.


was talking about work (ugh)
Doubt screen was high grade
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#46 Posted: Fri, May 27 2011, 12:01 PM EST
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I want to thank everyone for the concern of my humi, including the customer service and moderating staff at CI. Thanks to everyone for the help!!!
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#47 Posted: Fri, May 27 2011, 6:17 PM EST
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i had this problem using regular beads in one of these disk where i took out the green foam... wire mesh turns the heartfelt beads brown also...
Reaper0582 Offline
#48 Posted: Mon, May 30 2011, 11:19 AM EST
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Rowdydog-
Please read the entire thread, there was no tap water used.
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#49 Posted: Tue, May 31 2011, 9:29 AM EST
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nothin like a bowl of marbles!!!
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#50 Posted: Tue, May 31 2011, 9:55 AM EST
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05busa wrote:
nothin like a bowl of marbles!!!





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