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Poll Question : If GWB and Obama were the Presidential Candidates
Choice Votes Statistics
Vote for GWB 20 83 %
Vote for Obama 2 8 %
Vote for Ralph Nader 1 4 %
I wouldn't vote because voting is useless 1 4 %
Total 24 100%

If GWB and Obama were the Presidential Candidates? Vote!
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fishinguitarman Offline
#1 Posted: Wed, Nov 10 2010, 8:44 AM EST
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If it were time to exercise your rights as an American, who would you vote for?

I'd welcome back GWB in a HEARTBEAT!
DrafterX Offline
#2 Posted: Wed, Nov 10 2010, 8:46 AM EST
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What if Obama promised to fix your broken pipe..?? Huh
fishinguitarman Offline
#3 Posted: Wed, Nov 10 2010, 8:52 AM EST
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DrafterX wrote:
What if Obama promised to fix your broken pipe..?? Huh




He'd prolly screw it up.....
DrMaddVibe Offline
#4 Posted: Wed, Nov 10 2010, 10:23 AM EST
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GW...had more respect for the office than the Kenyan.
teedubbya Offline
#5 Posted: Wed, Nov 10 2010, 10:37 AM EST
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I'm sorry but I refuse to let the fact we have a piss poor President today erase the fact that we just suffered through 8 years or the worst, most wreckless President in modern Presidential histoty.

I voted for GWB once, and had a party to celebrate the Supreme's decision. It was a mistake based primarily on the fact that I am a Republican and Al Gore is wacked out and may very well have done a worse job than Bush (we'll never know, but it's probably a safe bet).

Bush sucks butt big and bad. Having a poor President this time doesn't change that. Bush is a dolt and while politically we do not want to admit this we will be dealing with his mistakes and recklessness for decades and maybe generations to come.

Hopefully the Republicans will learn from their mistake (Bush) and run someone who will attempt to fix the things Bush did and Obama is continuing or making worse.

About the only person the Republicans could run that would make me vote for the Big O is GW "history will condem me" B.


Nadar and not voting are not options to me.


By the way since the political spin is the Big O needs to own things now and quit blaming the past emeffer does Bush's tour and the professed love for him change that at all?

Gotta fly. Have fun with this =d>
TarponMan Offline
#6 Posted: Wed, Nov 10 2010, 10:37 AM EST
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I watched several interviews of Pres Bush over the past 2 days, and I was impressed by his sincerety and convictions as to doing what was right for the country. He may not have been perfect, but he's far superior to the clown that is now in office. BHO was elected by 70M uninformed voters, who had no idea what "change" actually meant. Now, the genie is out of the bottle, and it will be difficult to unravel his most destructive initiatives, even with Republican control of the House of Representatives.
fishinguitarman Offline
#7 Posted: Wed, Nov 10 2010, 10:42 AM EST
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I saw the interviews too and at least he was honest in his replies.

At least he shoots from the hip, unlike Captain teleprompter
teedubbya Offline
#8 Posted: Wed, Nov 10 2010, 10:44 AM EST
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fishinguitarman wrote:
I saw the interviews too and at least he was honest in his replies.

At least he shoots from the hip, unlike Captain teleprompter



His interviews made me remember just how repulsive he is and how little I respect him as a man. The Hannity one was my particular favorite LOL. He is still trying to make the WMD argument albiet in a new form (about the 27th different attempt to morph it when facts kill the argument)

Your love fest is nice but this man effed this country up the butt.
teedubbya Offline
#9 Posted: Wed, Nov 10 2010, 10:47 AM EST
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By the way its not a mutually exclusive requirement to love bush and hate obama or vice versa.

Bush effed the country up the butt. Obama is still touching and lubing preparing to do so. Give him time and he may.

We have made some poor choices in the last few cycles. Making a poor choice in the most recent one (Obama) does not negate the epic fail previous to it (Bush).
DrMaddVibe Offline
#10 Posted: Wed, Nov 10 2010, 10:56 AM EST
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Sooo....TW you voted for Obama on this poll?
teedubbya Offline
#11 Posted: Wed, Nov 10 2010, 11:03 AM EST
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On this poll yes I did.

I would vote for most anyone other than GWB. It really is hard to fathom anyone doing more damage than him. Obama sucks but to date he has not done as much harm to this country as Bush.

Sure the folks that have loved the scent of Bush's bunghole all along will disagree as well as those who have hated the Kenyan, Muslim guy. But frankly Obama has not had time to eff things up as much as bush. If we give him time he may.
teedubbya Offline
#12 Posted: Wed, Nov 10 2010, 11:07 AM EST
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But this poll is not reality.

My bigger concern is what happens from here, not looking backwards. I sure hope the Rs don't eff up their momentum. The midterm gains could make them look more like the incumbant party than the outsiders (which works for them historically). I almost would have rather had them the minority party until the general election then sweep the House and Presidency. I like gridlock so I always want the Senate and House controlled by different parties so in the end this is very good. I'm just afraid the timing could make it short lived.
DrMaddVibe Offline
#13 Posted: Wed, Nov 10 2010, 11:08 AM EST
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teedubbya wrote:
On this poll yes I did.



BAWHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAHAHAHAHA!!!!!
teedubbya Offline
#14 Posted: Wed, Nov 10 2010, 11:10 AM EST
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DrMaddVibe wrote:
BAWHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAHAHAHAHA!!!!!



As I said, I would be hard pressed to think of anyone I could drop in that poll that would make me chose GWB. Yes he was THAT bad.

Thankfully its not a decision we will ever have to make again.
DrMaddVibe Offline
#15 Posted: Wed, Nov 10 2010, 11:16 AM EST
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teedubbya wrote:
As I said, I would be hard pressed to think of anyone I could drop in that poll that would make me chose GWB. Yes he was THAT bad.

Thankfully its not a decision we will ever have to make again.



Given everything Slobama has done since pulling the greatest scam I'm surprised you'd even consider it. For every "bad" thing you want to put at 43's feet...44 isn't changing it. STATUS QUO. No HOPE AND CHANGE. If anything he's destructing free enterprise and our nation's economy. You're entitled to believe what you want, and you of all people KNOW that there were people screaming about 43's spending here on this site but the current stooge we have here makes Bush/Cheney appear like some brain trust the world has never seen!
teedubbya Offline
#16 Posted: Wed, Nov 10 2010, 11:25 AM EST
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DrMaddVibe wrote:
Given everything Slobama has done since pulling the greatest scam I'm surprised you'd even consider it. For every "bad" thing you want to put at 43's feet...44 isn't changing it. STATUS QUO. No HOPE AND CHANGE. If anything he's destructing free enterprise and our nation's economy. You're entitled to believe what you want, and you of all people KNOW that there were people screaming about 43's spending here on this site but the current stooge we have here makes Bush/Cheney appear like some brain trust the world has never seen!




I just completely disagree. I agree in the fact Obama sucks too. But not nearly as bad as Bush.

Granted thats akin to saying would you rather lick the baby's **** diaper after feeding it chili cheese frys or banannas.

I voted for Bush and am a Republican. It's not that I always hated him or thought he would do bad. He just did and I call it like I see it. I had no preconcieved notion or dispostion to disagree with the man.

I do not beleive you can say the same about the Big O and yourself.
teedubbya Offline
#17 Posted: Wed, Nov 10 2010, 11:27 AM EST
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I remember sitting in a caucus meeting during the Dole, Lamaar, Buchanan, B1 Bob, Grahm, Keyes etc primary. I was representing Dole. Incidently my main argument for Dole (who I liked personally but was a weak candidate) was that he was going to win the nomination and we needed to get behind their campaign if we wanted to win the general election. Buchananan won our precenct, B1 Bob was second. It sort of reminds me of in here at times and I enjoyed it.

During that caucus when all was said and done I was talking to some of the national party folk who sort of knew they would not win the general and were talking about 4 years later. They brought up baby bush (they actually called him that) as a likely canditate to emerge. Their pros on him were he was raw (blank slate) and could be taught. Sounded good.

Looking back thats the problem. He was a shell that could be manipulated. And he was. I actually sort of think Bush is very similar to Palin. Not necessarily on specific politics but lack of depth or knowledge.

I still beleive our best days are ahead of us DESPITE the horrendous damage Bush did and Obama continues.
teedubbya Offline
#18 Posted: Wed, Nov 10 2010, 11:34 AM EST
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By the way I gotta run. It's been fun but busy busy busy.

take care.
fishinguitarman Offline
#19 Posted: Wed, Nov 10 2010, 11:53 AM EST
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Obummer has done more damage in less than 2 years than GW did in 8!
DrMaddVibe Offline
#20 Posted: Wed, Nov 10 2010, 11:56 AM EST
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fishinguitarman wrote:
Obummer has done more damage in less than 2 years than GW did in 8!



That's the fact, Jack!
tweoijfoi Offline
#21 Posted: Wed, Nov 10 2010, 12:57 PM EST
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fishinguitarman wrote:
Obummer has done more damage in less than 2 years than GW did in 8!


I don't agree with that. Bush got us into 2 wars, poorly handled Katrina, fostered the Patriot Act (the biggest "big brother" bill... bigger than "Obamacare"), expanded government and spending, while reducing taxes resulting in our largest deficit ever.

Obama has messed up on health care reform--though keep in mind he had little to do with the bill beyond introducing it. It was congress and the house which brutalized it with compromises, so the name "Obamacare" is misleading. He also increased the deficit further by failing to cut when cuts were needed. I do wonder how this would have panned out had we not been in 2 wars.
teedubbya Offline
#22 Posted: Wed, Nov 10 2010, 1:24 PM EST
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Bush also owns TARP and other nice little bail out provisions often convieniently attributed to others.
ZRX1200 Offline
#23 Posted: Wed, Nov 10 2010, 2:03 PM EST
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The deficit was what when GWB left.....and it is what now? Also dems couldn't get in front of cameras fast enough to show support for the baby B when they ASKED for a vote to give him authority. GWB was a very flawed president and not at the top of my list. But worst ever? No. I agree with TDub as far as this poll being imaginary, so in that I would "not vote". In reality Bush 43 can't run and the mooselum Kenyan isn't constitutionally able to.
ZRX1200 Offline
#24 Posted: Wed, Nov 10 2010, 2:09 PM EST
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TeeDubbya my copy of "Posting on Cbid Forums" that you authored said "Rule 3: Wait for post 90 something before you commit to your opinion." What happened here? Miss your lot 23 reviews too....
DadZilla3 Offline
#25 Posted: Wed, Nov 10 2010, 4:19 PM EST
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teedubbya wrote:
Buchananan won our precenct, B1 Bob was second. It sort of reminds me of in here at times and I enjoyed it.


And would we have nearly the current problems that we now are saddled with, had either B1 Bob or Pat Buchanan won the presidency?

I think not...especially in the case of Pat Buchanan who if memory serves wanted to stop illegal immigration, stop foreign entanglements, slow down the entitlement gravy train, and rein in the big banks like Goldman Sachs many years ago.
borndead1 Offline
#26 Posted: Wed, Nov 10 2010, 4:47 PM EST
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I actually voted for Nader in 2000 -- not because I share his principles, but to vote against Gore and Bush.
teedubbya Offline
#27 Posted: Wed, Nov 10 2010, 5:05 PM EST
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DadZilla3 wrote:
And would we have nearly the current problems that we now are saddled with, had either B1 Bob or Pat Buchanan won the presidency?

I think not...especially in the case of Pat Buchanan who if memory serves wanted to stop illegal immigration, stop foreign entanglements, slow down the entitlement gravy train, and rein in the big banks like Goldman Sachs many years ago.


Hard to tell but Clinton did and although I never voted for him he did pretty well compared to Baby Bush and Obama.

As for the deficit, both Bush and Obama get an F. You can attribute the deficit to the person in office right this minute but that's pretty disengenuous to me. To a certain extent the first couple years of any Presidency is a reflectoin of the past one. You can't turn the ship quickly in most cases, especially the economy. As a matter of fact I think Clinton gets too much credit in that regard and Papa Bush not enough. The Bush deficit is enormous and the Obama deficit will be even bigger. I blame Bush for starting it and Obama for at least not slowing it (actually escalating it). Its pretty cool to be able to leave a pile of **** on someones door step then turn around and bitch at them for having a pile of **** on their door step.

The politics is nice. They are fun to read. But not really the reality. Bush sucked Butt. So does Obama. Obama has not done as much damage as Bush yet but he may. Bush was really just a god awful President and pox on our country.

And most Perdomos are terrible. I'd still smoke most of them over a PI though. The lot 23 was the exception. Pretty decent smoke actually. It had to be a mistake. I haven't had one in awhile so they probably have deteriorated into the normal Perdomo suck hole.
teedubbya Offline
#28 Posted: Wed, Nov 10 2010, 5:18 PM EST
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But a more relevent poll would have been:

Who wins in a weiner eating contest

Ditka
Godzilla
RAM
fishinguitarman Offline
#29 Posted: Thu, Nov 11 2010, 7:16 AM EST
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Bush 15/18=83%
Lumpa Offline
#30 Posted: Thu, Nov 11 2010, 2:45 PM EST
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teedubbya wrote:
Hard to tell but Clinton did and although I never voted for him he did pretty well compared to Baby Bush and Obama.

As for the deficit, both Bush and Obama get an F. You can attribute the deficit to the person in office right this minute but that's pretty disengenuous to me. To a certain extent the first couple years of any Presidency is a reflectoin of the past one. You can't turn the ship quickly in most cases, especially the economy. As a matter of fact I think Clinton gets too much credit in that regard and Papa Bush not enough. The Bush deficit is enormous and the Obama deficit will be even bigger. I blame Bush for starting it and Obama for at least not slowing it (actually escalating it). Its pretty cool to be able to leave a pile of **** on someones door step then turn around and bitch at them for having a pile of **** on their door step.

The politics is nice. They are fun to read. But not really the reality. Bush sucked Butt. So does Obama. Obama has not done as much damage as Bush yet but he may. Bush was really just a god awful President and pox on our country.

And most Perdomos are terrible. I'd still smoke most of them over a PI though. The lot 23 was the exception. Pretty decent smoke actually. It had to be a mistake. I haven't had one in awhile so they probably have deteriorated into the normal Perdomo suck hole.



Clinton, and more specifically the Community Reinvestment Act,
is a major portion of where this problem began.

He had act 1 with the burst of the "Internet Bubble" when people realized "that's a neat idea and sounds nifty" does not equal a vaible reason for $300 million equity to be instantly created.

Act 2 was when we realized "that's a neat idea and sounds nifty and EVERYONE deserves a home, and besides the loan is secured by real estate, which NEVER goes down in value" wasn't going ot cut it either.

Tweoij:
I don't agree with that. Bush got us into 2 wars, poorly handled Katrina, fostered the Patriot Act (the biggest "big brother" bill... bigger than "Obamacare"), expanded government and spending, while reducing taxes resulting in our largest deficit ever.

Obama has messed up on health care reform--though keep in mind he had little to do with the bill beyond introducing it. It was congress and the house which brutalized it with compromises, so the name "Obamacare" is misleading. He also increased the deficit further by failing to cut when cuts were needed. I do wonder how this would have panned out had we not been in 2 wars.

Sometimes war IS the proper response. How does one stop a hurricane? Too bad nobody told all those poor folks they should leave. Oh, wait...The Patriot Act, after 9 years (and which was supposed to sunset but was extended by Obama on Feb 28, 2010) has not effected me. He did increase Gov't spending. He did lower taxes, and I simply can't comprehend anyone not thinking lower taxes are inherently good. Usually, lower taxes results in higher overall revenues, as it encourages the economy, but no such luck this time around (see rant above about Clinton). IMHO, DEFENSE SPENDING WITH HEAVY EMPHASIS ON R&D is the best form of stimulous package. It creates jobs NOW and the technology development often becomes the basis for future industry. Ever hear of DARPA?

Largest deficit ever? You aint seen nothin yet, sweetie!

Obama care already has effected me negatively - my FSA is now much more of a PITA to use for over the counter meds. The name Obamacare is because it was his sweeping promise that resulted in the perceived "mandate". COMPROMISES?!? Thank God for that! I just adviced an intelligent young man who is in college on a biology major "don't bother with med school. Become a Physicians Assistant instead. Serously - over the long haul, unless you are going to become a high-end specialist, the income difference wont be that much, and the headache is not worth it."

FAILING TO CUT WHEN CUTS WERE NEEDED?!?
FAILING TO CUT WHEN CUTS WERE NEEDED?!!!?
Thats what you call it?

Thank god for this new web format, so I can block your posts from now on.
And thank you for doing me the favor of revealing yourself as an absolutely brainwashed idot, saving me from dealing with you any further.

TW:
What makes GWB so gawdawful in your view?
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