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THL Offline
#1 Posted: Fri, Oct 25 2002, 5:13 AM EST
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Recently on a trip to Mexico I picked up some "Cuban" Hoyo de Monterreys and Cohibas. Even as I was buying them I knew that there was a chance that only the bands were authentic. I know, I know, just send you the cigars and you'll check them out for me. Seriously, is there any way to tell with a reasonable certainty? After smoking a couple, I gotta tell you, I like the legal Hoyos better anyway,no Cuban maduros. Regarding the Cohibas, I've got no basis to compare.
Tag23m Offline
#2 Posted: Fri, Oct 25 2002, 5:18 AM EST
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I just saw an article on a different website on how to check the seal of the box for counterfeit email me at [email protected] if interested.
THL Offline
#3 Posted: Fri, Oct 25 2002, 5:28 AM EST
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I just bought some singles, 5 of each. He opened,(I realize that's no guarantee), a fresh box of the Hoyos. The Cohibas came out of one already opened.
Slimboli Offline
#4 Posted: Fri, Oct 25 2002, 5:55 AM EST
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Search the archives here ... there has been extensive postings and several links on those threads you can reference.
Claytonbahr Offline
#5 Posted: Fri, Oct 25 2002, 8:33 AM EST
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#6 Posted: Fri, Oct 25 2002, 8:34 AM EST
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ooops. Chances are, if it comes out of Mexico, it is probably counterfeit. That has been my experience at least. Far better to buy online from a reputable dealer overseas.
THL Offline
#7 Posted: Fri, Oct 25 2002, 8:55 AM EST
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Can you suggest any reputable overseas dealers?
calavera Offline
#8 Posted: Fri, Oct 25 2002, 11:05 AM EST
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If you bought them at a La Casa del Habano, they have a good chance of being real. If you bought them anywhere else, they are counterfeit.
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#9 Posted: Fri, Oct 25 2002, 11:36 AM EST
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THL, I posted this 2 weeks ago:

Thread Subject: Email me...

Author: E-Chick Date: 10/12/2002 04:19 AM

...for the inside scoop...just met a guy named Gerry...owns the largest cigar shop in all of Mexico...great connection! Not to compete with our sponsor here...stuff you can't get on cbid otherwise I would NEVER have posted...

Inquiring minds can reach me at: marlapf at excite dot com...you won't regret it!



Soulwound Offline
#10 Posted: Fri, Oct 25 2002, 11:52 AM EST
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You mean as far as enquiring about the cigar store, or just generally speaking? (heh heh)
E-Chick Offline
#11 Posted: Fri, Oct 25 2002, 11:55 AM EST
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Smart ass!
Soulwound Offline
#12 Posted: Fri, Oct 25 2002, 12:05 PM EST
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You know... *sniff* that really, really hurts. *sniff*

But then, if it makes you *sniff* feel better about yourself tossing undeserved insults at people *sniff*, then I guess that's what's important... *HONK!*
jd1 Offline
#13 Posted: Fri, Oct 25 2002, 12:10 PM EST
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You take a chance anywhere on buying Cuban cigars that they could be fakes or cigars made with inferior Cuban tobacco instead of the tobacco that you would normally associate with a reputable cigar maker like Monte, Partagas, etc. However, you might get genuine Cubans more often if paying through your nose for them--like most dealers charge. Those that see Cuban cigar prices "that look to good to be true" tend to shy away. Do your research and you'll find that "reputable" dealers are marking the prices sky high on Cuban cigars instead of selling them at prices we all can afford. For example, there used to be a site called Cigar Nexus (http://www.cigarnexus.com/counsel/cubanprices/index.html) that is still up but doesn't update the site anymore. On there was a price list on Cuban cigar prices from 1999/2000. After looking at that list you'll see just how much you are getting gouged for buying your genuine Cubans from reputable dealers...

OFinnish Offline
#14 Posted: Sat, Oct 26 2002, 7:24 PM EST
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RICKAMAVEN Offline
#15 Posted: Sun, Oct 27 2002, 3:39 AM EST
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THL

out of respect we don't post competitor's sites on cbid. if you want some info, [email protected]
RICKAMAVEN Offline
#16 Posted: Sun, Oct 27 2002, 3:46 AM EST
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OFinnish

before slimboli jumps in, it isn't nice to post web sites. i did check out your site and the prices stink. you may contact me for info if you like. [email protected]
Slimboli Offline
#17 Posted: Sun, Oct 27 2002, 4:26 AM EST
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It's not only in bad taste to post competing websites on our hosts forum ... CigarBid has asked that we don't do this. Read the General Guidelines.

Rick ... I know prices in England are high, but if Cuban cigars go below what they sell for in Cuba, you can be certain they are fakes. The demand is just too high for them to be discounted ... and you won't see it with genuine Cuban cigars.

tarheel4lyf Offline
#18 Posted: Sun, Oct 27 2002, 5:07 AM EST
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Is it "legal" to buy Cubans from overseas dealers?
tarheel4lyf Offline
#19 Posted: Sun, Oct 27 2002, 5:07 AM EST
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off the internet or through the mail?
Slimboli Offline
#20 Posted: Sun, Oct 27 2002, 10:14 AM EST
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It's not illegal for other countries to sell to the USA ... it's illegal for you to have them imported into the USA ...

The Trading with the Enemy Act ...

The person who is on the receiving end pays if caught ... and it hasn't stopped many!
ryanmickley Offline
#21 Posted: Wed, Oct 30 2002, 5:38 AM EST
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There are a few dealers which I consider reputable-cuesta-rey cigars in the Netherlands is excellent.
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