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docrks Offline
#1 Posted: Sat, Jun 21 2003, 4:36 AM EST
Joined: 03-03-2003
Posts: 2,708
Welcome to the Premium Box Pass Adventure
"Domestics"

CAO Odyssey Millenium 2000
Padron Anniversario Maduro 1964 Serie Torpedo (Qty 2)
Padron Anniversario Maduro 1964 Serie Imperial (Qty 3)
Opus X Reserve Chateau
Opus X Perfexion X
Opus X Fuente Fuente (Qty 3)
Diamond Crown # 7 Torp (Qty 3)
Diamond Crown Torp Maduro (Qty 3)
Don Carlos No. 2 Torpedo (Qty 3)
Romeo & Julliet 130th Anniv Maduro Torpedo (Qty 2)
Ashton Virgin Sun Grown Gran Torp (Qty 2)
CAO L'Anniversaire Camer. No 1 (Square Aluminum) Qty 2
Oliva Ovation Maduro (Blue Label) Qty 3
Gurkha Regent Corona Gorda (Green Label)

ISOMS

Hoyo de Monterrey Double Chateau
Partagas Churchill Deluxe
Montecristo No. 2 Torpedo
Punch Black Prince Gran Corona
Diplomatico No 2 Torpedo
Cohiba Siglo V
H. Upmann No. 4
Romeo y Julieta Edicion Limitada 2001 Robusto
Cohiba Edicion Limitada 2001 Torpedo
Partagas Edicion Limitada 2001 Torpedo
Bolivar Robusto
Romeo y Julieta Churchill

Rules:

* ISOM can ONLY be replaced with comparable ISOM
* Domestic replaced with equal value Domestic OR ISOM
* All Takes and Puts MUST be published
* Package Must Be Insured for $500 and Sent Priority Mail With Tracking Number Published
* Turn Around Time NTE 2 Days

Welcomed Participants - Pls send Snailer you want used for the Premium Box Pass to - I need a response From EVERYONE who wants to participate (even if you sent me your snailer in the past - pls confirm your participation in this PASS)

docrks
at
army dot
com

I will set up most efficient mailing route so as to minimize transit time among our participants. As we are leaving tomorrow for 1 week to witness a spectacular event (GO AIRBORNE !!!) The Box Pass will be mailed out July 1 to the 1st name on our list. The order of mailing will be published on this forum.

Thanks for Participating in what should be an OUTSTANDING Adventure !!!!!

Docrks
docrks Offline
#2 Posted: Sat, Jun 21 2003, 4:45 AM EST
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Box Pass Terms - continued

When a cigar type has multiple quantities listed - only 1 cigar of that type may be taken ---for example -

PAM 1964 Imperial (Qty 3) --- You may only take 1 of these sticks on your Pass ---this ensures the greatest chance of the most people being able to sample the various cigars.
Danny Offline
#3 Posted: Sat, Jun 21 2003, 7:07 AM EST
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nice line up Doc
hoagie55 Offline
#4 Posted: Sat, Jun 21 2003, 8:20 AM EST
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Docrks,

With vacation season coming on strong we need to make sure that the box of cigars won't be sitting on somebodies dooer step for a week and get ruined.

Shouldn't we contact the next person on the list to insure that they will be there to receive the cigars?

Matt

Thanks,
Matt
smithbw Offline
#5 Posted: Sat, Jun 21 2003, 9:13 AM EST
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Great Line Up!

Awesome! Awesome! Awesome!

I am sending an email to you now with my snailer.

Regards,


B
billyjackson Offline
#6 Posted: Sat, Jun 21 2003, 9:26 AM EST
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Being in Waco, I've never even SEEN any of these except in a magazine. This is a great idea...I am envious that I cannot take part!!!
deadeyedick Offline
#7 Posted: Sat, Jun 21 2003, 9:29 AM EST
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Doc,

I think Matt has a good point. I know I will be on vacation for last 2 weeks of July and others may also sometime during this pass. Maybe all should send this info to you with their snailer before you publish the the route? I also have a few questions that I will email for your consideration.
Fantastic lineup! Looking foreward to it!

DED
docrks Offline
#8 Posted: Sat, Jun 21 2003, 9:51 AM EST
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LAST MINUTE ADDITION !!!!!!

ADD (Qty 2) Greycliff Torpedo to the PASS on the Domestic Side !!!!
docrks Offline
#9 Posted: Sat, Jun 21 2003, 9:58 AM EST
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OFFICIAL WELCOME to the PASS :

JSD1AZ (Jerry D)
OCTOWINGS (James A)
KYHUNTSMAN (Matt)
SMITHBW (Billy S)

Still have room for about 8 - 10 more PROVEN Brethren.

Sorry - as I said to a few off-line, if this is your 1st Trade experience and you have no verifiable track record with others involved in this PASS - the value of the assembled cigars prohibts your inclusion in this initial offering.

Keep earning those TRADING references - and maybe we'll see you in time for the next PASS.

DocRKS

docrks Offline
#10 Posted: Sat, Jun 21 2003, 10:05 AM EST
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Dead Eye ****** and Hoagie 55 make an excellent point -

Pls include any "vacation time notices" with your e-mail confirmation - we certainly don't want this sitting on someone's doorstep for 2 weeks.

Also - the person mailing the PASS on should WAIT till he gets confirmation from the NEXT recipient confirming that he (the NEXT in line) is ready and able to RECEIVE the PASS !!

Thanks guys - excellent points -

DocRKS
docrks Offline
#11 Posted: Sat, Jun 21 2003, 10:28 AM EST
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DEADEYEDICK is Welcomed to the PASS ..
docrks Offline
#12 Posted: Sat, Jun 21 2003, 10:30 AM EST
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DANNY is cordially welcomed

Our Group is now 7 - will consider 5 to 8 more
docrks Offline
#13 Posted: Sat, Jun 21 2003, 4:11 PM EST
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Hoagie55 - Welcome on Board, again.......
Robby Offline
#14 Posted: Sat, Jun 21 2003, 5:56 PM EST
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Doc, I'm in if you'll have me...
cwilhelmi Offline
#15 Posted: Sat, Jun 21 2003, 6:45 PM EST
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email sent. Thanks for setting this up doc!!
Homebrew Offline
#16 Posted: Sat, Jun 21 2003, 7:30 PM EST
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Thanks Docrks, this is going to be a blast.
email sent
Later
Dave (A.K.A. Homebrew)
docrks Offline
#17 Posted: Sun, Jun 22 2003, 6:55 AM EST
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Homebrew & Lowman & Cwilhelmi and Robby are Welcomed into the PASS. We now have 11 Certified Particpants - room for just a few more and then it's closed !!!

Chris, Greg and Robby - Need you to send (re-confirm) the SNAILER you want the PASS sent to - asap

docrks at
army dot
com
Robby Offline
#18 Posted: Sun, Jun 22 2003, 10:47 AM EST
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will do Monday. Mail is hosed now.
cooksta2 Offline
#19 Posted: Sun, Jun 22 2003, 11:39 AM EST
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Count me in I'll send my snailer

Mark
docrks Offline
#20 Posted: Sun, Jun 22 2003, 12:25 PM EST
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Big Jeff -

Another Brother of the Leaf (and a Jersey Brother at that) is welcomed into the PASS !!!

We're down to a precious few openings.....
docrks Offline
#21 Posted: Sun, Jun 22 2003, 12:26 PM EST
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Mark -

Cooksta 2 ---pls check your email and get back to me with reply asap

docrks
ropeman Offline
#22 Posted: Sun, Jun 22 2003, 1:56 PM EST
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Sorry , I have not responded sooner. I have been busy all week and have not been online at all. Herf all day Saturday and golf all day Sunday. Email sent.
JustDanD Offline
#23 Posted: Sun, Jun 22 2003, 6:28 PM EST
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If there is still room and I meet the standards, I'm in.

Email sent

Dan (JustDanD)
jd1 Offline
#24 Posted: Sun, Jun 22 2003, 6:43 PM EST
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Doc et al,
I mentioned this in an email, but to reiterate, we might want to put these precious primos in humi-pouches inside the box so as to ensure they remain in prime condition throughout the pass. If needed, I can send you several large size pouches. Just let me know.
Homebrew Offline
#25 Posted: Sun, Jun 22 2003, 6:54 PM EST
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Love the humipouches.
JD1, I think, sent smokes to me in one one time, and I could have smoked them right out of the postladies hand.
Later
Dave (A.K.A. Homebrew)
Danny Offline
#26 Posted: Sun, Jun 22 2003, 7:06 PM EST
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the cigars will most likely be in a tupperdor with credos or other humidifying devices sufficient. This time of year, turnaround time for each player is critical because of the heat. Because many ISOM are unbanded and/or rebanded, it's a good idea to keep them in individual cigar resealable baggies with a numbering scheme for I.D. The good news is that Roman will work all this out in advance no doubt. It will be up to us to maintain whatever Roman devises so all his setup work pays off. Anybody who has run a pass knows it can be a lot of work. Thanks Roman for putting this together!!
Homebrew Offline
#27 Posted: Sun, Jun 22 2003, 7:15 PM EST
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Hey Danny,
A tupperdor, and credos, would be pointless, with individual resealable pouches. But a humipouch, IS a Resealable pouch, with a humidifier.
Later
Dave (A.K.A. Homebrew)
Danny Offline
#28 Posted: Mon, Jun 23 2003, 1:25 AM EST
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in a pass like this, with an ever growing number of cigars, that's the way it's done. You have no idea how many cigars are going to wind up in this thing as it progresses. No offense, but have you ever done this before?
Danny Offline
#29 Posted: Mon, Jun 23 2003, 1:35 AM EST
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here's a link to a site where a lot of passes have been run and many are under way. Lots of good examples here of some extremely well run passes, and some nonos too
Danny Offline
#30 Posted: Mon, Jun 23 2003, 1:36 AM EST
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would help to post the link lol


http://forums.cigarweekly.com/viewforum.php?f=13
Lowman Offline
#31 Posted: Mon, Jun 23 2003, 3:54 AM EST
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Doc,

Email sent with snailer...

Low
Danny Offline
#32 Posted: Mon, Jun 23 2003, 4:50 AM EST
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another useful link

http://www.cigarpass.com/rules_of_a_pass.htm
docrks Offline
#33 Posted: Mon, Jun 23 2003, 4:52 AM EST
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Rocco and Ropeman have earned their entry into the PASS many times over ---WELCOME

JD1 - because of vacation times - you are probably getting the PASS 1st --I'll let you make the call if you feel the humi pouch would be advisable - I am sending in a modified tupperdor with humidification built in...
docrks Offline
#34 Posted: Mon, Jun 23 2003, 4:53 AM EST
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Just Dan D

Never received your email
docrks Offline
#35 Posted: Mon, Jun 23 2003, 4:57 AM EST
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SEE YOU IN A WEEK !!!!

Leaving the boards to go with the family to Ft. Benning, GA to pin on my Daughter's AIRBORNE Wings !!! HOOAH !!

Will be back after taking her back to West Point and the PASS will be organized and sent out early next week.

Arranging Vacation Time away for all you guys has really added to the complications of the PASS - but we'll make this happen to the Best of Our Abilities. and it will be a GREAT Experience for All !!!!

Happy Smoking Till Then ---

GO AIRBORNE !!!!!!!!!!

DUTY --- HONOR----COUNTRY-----
chuckler Offline
#36 Posted: Mon, Jun 23 2003, 4:58 AM EST
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docrks.

Confirm email sent.

Thanks,

PT
Charlie Offline
#37 Posted: Mon, Jun 23 2003, 6:06 AM EST
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Sending email with my snailer! Hoooooooraaaaaaaaah!

Charlie
jd1 Offline
#38 Posted: Mon, Jun 23 2003, 7:31 AM EST
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Doc, I'll also be gone July 3-5; spur of the moment trip.

I figured the humi-pouches would not only provide a more stable environment, but they would also lessen the shipping costs due to saving weight. No offense Danny, but IMHO humi-pouches are a better humidification method than credo/water/pg for traveling purposes such as this; if anything, they are more convenient and less troublesome.
Danny Offline
#39 Posted: Mon, Jun 23 2003, 7:59 AM EST
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No offense taken. Whatever you guys think is best. Every pass I've been involved in and hosted used tupperdors and home-made credos. The last pass I hosted started out with 44 cigars and returned with about 80. As the puts and takes occur, labeling and relabeling of the pouches is the only real issue that has to be dealt with. It's possible the entire contents of ea. pouch can change several times, and since cab ISOM's have no bands, and some will have come from vendors who reband, ID`ing becomes critical. So as long as that issue is taken care of, and some sort of container that allows for growth is being used,(inevitable), than all is well. Also, spare humi pouches will have to be available for growth inside the box as it makes it's rounds. No way to accurately predict how many extra will be needed. : )
jd1 Offline
#40 Posted: Mon, Jun 23 2003, 8:30 AM EST
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Very good points Danny indeed. Whether or not humi-pouches end up in there, everyone will need to accurately write down any necessary information and ensure the humidity level is taken care of.

I do believe though that someone said you cannot take one and substitute two. So if any additional smokes go in there I would think they are freebies and should be indicated as such.
Danny Offline
#41 Posted: Mon, Jun 23 2003, 9:56 AM EST
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The generosity of the players usually leads to putting in more than is taken. Never seen it to fail. The selection just keeps getting larger as it moves along. I predict Docroks is going to need another humi by the time he gets the box back lol.
Robby Offline
#42 Posted: Sat, Jun 28 2003, 7:58 PM EST
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Doctor Doctor, give me the news, I got a bad case of lovin you. When will the box pass begin? Has the list been completed? Have the worthy been selected? King Arthur’s court? Is E Guinevere? Does she have green eyes? Like yours lady like yours?
Homebrew Offline
#43 Posted: Sat, Jun 28 2003, 8:17 PM EST
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Hey Robby,
He's gone for a week. I'm sure he will let us know, as soon as he gets back.
Later
Dave
docrks Offline
#44 Posted: Sun, Jun 29 2003, 4:03 AM EST
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29 June - Sunday Morning

Have just returned from Ft. Benning GA with America's newest AIRBORNE Paratrooper who is now proudly wearing WINGS of Silver !!!!!

We are bringing our daughter back to West Point later today and then---- all focus is on the BOX PASS !!

I have locked out any more participants (received over 2 dozen requests - too unmanageable) and if you asked me where can you get any Habana product or Opus or PAMs, you're probably not one of those whose name will be on this list. - I will publish the names of the Players - order of mailing and contents of the Premium Box Pass under a new thread on Monday !!

DocRKS

PS -Thanks to ALL who sent their kind wishes to our Cadet (and new Airborne Paratrooper --HOOAH !!!!)

Thanks to all who
jd1 Offline
#45 Posted: Sun, Jun 29 2003, 10:18 AM EST
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Congrats to all and you undoubtedly you must be proud! What an accomplishment!

Looking forward to the box pass!
rmarrandino Offline
#46 Posted: Mon, Jun 30 2003, 4:29 AM EST
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Docrks,

Congrats on the new paratrooper!!! I'm sure it was a proud moment.

I celebrated with you by smoking the RyJ Limited Edition 2001 ISOM that you sent me. Excellent cigar.

Rocco
hoagie55 Offline
#47 Posted: Mon, Jun 30 2003, 11:02 AM EST
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Congratulations on your Airborne Paratrooper!

I know you're one proud father, that's quite an acomplishment.


jd1 Offline
#48 Posted: Tue, Jul 1 2003, 8:40 AM EST
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Noticed that we should insure the package for $500. Any suggestions as to what we could list as the contents for that kinda insurance? Pictures? Petrified snipe eggs? Audio CDs?
Danny Offline
#49 Posted: Tue, Jul 1 2003, 8:44 AM EST
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I've never known them to ask, but I never had to make a claim either
docrks Offline
#50 Posted: Tue, Jul 1 2003, 9:24 AM EST
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Since there are no SALES of anything going on here - there is no problem in any sense of the word in trading among friends. When we mail the package and insure it (probably for $600) - you are not asked what is in the box. Now having said that - I would not advertise that the box contains premium HABANA product - lest it get "diverted" from its intended destination

If asked - I would write "Personal Items and Sundries"
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