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Obama’s hidden Iran deal giveaway
Burner02 Offline
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"By dropping charges against major arms targets, the administration infuriated Justice Department officials — and undermined its own counterproliferation task forces."

http://www.politico.com/story/2017/04/24/obama-iran-nuclear-deal-prisoner-release-236966



Another Obama effort to make the U.S. and the world a safer place.
DrafterX Offline
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That Bassard..!! Mad
TMCTLT Offline
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Burner02 wrote:
"By dropping charges against major arms targets, the administration infuriated Justice Department officials — and undermined its own counter proliferation task forces."

http://www.politico.com/story/2017/04/24/obama-iran-nuclear-deal-prisoner-release-236966



Another Obama effort to make the U.S. and the world a safer place.




Sad part is....just because the POS has finally vacated the offfice doesn't mean we've seen or heard the last of him. No the media will continue to fawn over him and continue to TRY to make the WORST president in US history somehow....relevant. He should have been made to take the healers oath of First Do No Harm...before being sworn in.
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wrong thread
Herfing
victor809 Offline
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Not to point out the obvious but the worst president in history is still relevant. He's still got 3.66 years in office.

And amusingly enough his followers are now starting a bunch of blame Obama threads.
TMCTLT Offline
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victor809 wrote:
Not to point out the obvious but the worst president in history is still relevant. He's still got 3.66 years in office.

And amusingly enough his followers are now starting a bunch of blame Obama threads.




You are worth your weight in comedic relief....I'll give you that!!! LMAO

Find your safe spot Vicki and shelter in sweetie...as you said 3.66 yrs to go Applause

BTW....NOTHING about Obummer is amusing, nothing.
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Why would I need a safe spot. As I said before I'm planning on enjoying myself this administration. His stupid decisions are generally going to help me out financially, yet I still get to mock the idiots that think he's anything more than a confused shyster who's so in over his head his only defense is to say a huge number of incorrect and conflicting things and then blame the media for quoting him.

He's comedy gold. And I'm laughing at you too... whether you know it or not.
DrafterX Offline
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His ears look pretty funny... Mellow
tailgater Offline
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victor809 wrote:
Not to point out the obvious but the worst president in history is still relevant. He's still got 3.66 years in office.

And amusingly enough his followers are now starting a bunch of blame Obama threads.


To be honest, I don't think Obama was the worst president. Not even in my lifetime.
But to call Trump the worst after only a few months?
That makes you one of "those people" who simply listen to the liberal media rhetoric.

Worst based on what?

I didn't like Obama and I disagreed with his "stimulus" and with Obamacare. But I don't know anyone who would have called him the "worst president in history" after only a few months.
That's an emotional opinion. Nothing more.

Mostly, however, I'd like to ask why you consider this a "blame Obama" thread.
It's just revealing one of the many lies that was kept hidden during his 8 years in office.






teedubbya Offline
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Obama entering in to this unilateral deal with Iran is an OUTRAGE! We should leave it and that will change everything.
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Tail... your desire for reason and logic is cute. And completely unnecessary in this era of alternative facts. I no longer need to wait until he's finished his 4 or 8 years to crown him worst president ever. Hell he claimed to have the most productive first 90 days of any president in the history of the usa... do you think Trump has an accurate historical knowledge of every single presidents first 90 day accomplishments sufficient to make that claim? HAHAHAHAHAHA....no... he doesnt.

So I stand by my statement if for no reason other than I don't have to not.

And I will continue to mock people like yogurt head. Because I can.

And yes... you didn't happen to notice a couple Obama threads started popping up here all on the same day? What do you want to bet this is just because breitbart or some other "news" agency is trying to distract people from something stupid our orange idiot has done?
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That's Mr. Orange Head Idiot President to you boy!! Again, he won....GTF over it, girlie.
xibbumbero Offline
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Burner02 wrote:
"By dropping charges against major arms targets, the administration infuriated Justice Department officials — and undermined its own counterproliferation task forces."

http://www.politico.com/story/2017/04/24/obama-iran-nuclear-deal-prisoner-release-236966



Another Obama effort to make the U.S. and the world a safer place.


Is this kinda like Ronnie Rayguns Iran-Contra fiasco? X Think
DrafterX Offline
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DJIA 21019.9
+256.01

Think
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Terrible deal...

Iran got: 1) seven key people (Iranian-Americans) who had been arrested and were awaiting trial in US, who helped to supply its nuclear weapons program, 2) charges dropped and warrants dismissed against another 14 Iranian bad guys who were part of their nuclear weapons program supply line, 3) plane full of cash 4) a bunch of outsiders who can come into their country without notice to check their **** (nuclear weapons program)

America got: 1) 5 relatively obscure and unimportant Americans who had been held hostage by Iran for a long time, as bargaining chips, 2) Iran's agreement to stop its nuclear weapons program,
3) Iran agreed to allow us to send monitors to inspect its nuclear facilities to ensure it is in compliance, 4) a whole lot of unhappy intelligence officials who spent years identifying, tracking and arresting Iranian bad guys who were key players in supplying the Iran nuclear weapons programs, just to see the fruits of their labor go up in smoke, 5) misleading statements from President Obama and his administration about the deal...

awful...
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victor809 wrote:
Tail... your desire for reason and logic is cute. And completely unnecessary in this era of alternative facts. I no longer need to wait until he's finished his 4 or 8 years to crown him worst president ever. Hell he claimed to have the most productive first 90 days of any president in the history of the usa... do you think Trump has an accurate historical knowledge of every single presidents first 90 day accomplishments sufficient to make that claim? HAHAHAHAHAHA....no... he doesnt.

So I stand by my statement if for no reason other than I don't have to not.

And I will continue to mock people like yogurt head. Because I can.

And yes... you didn't happen to notice a couple Obama threads started popping up here all on the same day? What do you want to bet this is just because breitbart or some other "news" agency is trying to distract people from something stupid our orange idiot has done?




What would you have said is someone called the big O a black idiot?

Don't bother.
It's rhetorical.



DrafterX Offline
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I'm guessing there'd be outrage.... Mellow
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delta1 wrote:
.... 5) misleading statements from President Obama and his administration about the deal...

.



"Misleading"

giggle



MACS Offline
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Yeah, and based on past experience I'm sure we can trust Iran to do what they said, right?

AmIright!??
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xibbumbero wrote:
Is this kinda like Ronnie Rayguns Iran-Contra fiasco? X Think



Thought you were smarter than that.


Error on my part.
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victor809 wrote:
Not to point out the obvious but the worst president in history is still relevant. He's still got 3.66 years in office.

And amusingly enough his followers are now starting a bunch of blame Obama threads.




Your man Barry stole the trophy from Jimmy C. Enough said.
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tailgater wrote:
Mostly, however, I'd like to ask why you consider this a "blame Obama" thread.
It's just revealing one of the many lies that was kept hidden during his 8 years in office.




Damn right, another hatchet job by Politico.


Bunch of left leaning biotches.
MACS Offline
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Burner02 wrote:
Your man Barry stole the trophy from Jimmy C. Enough said.


Didn't FDR start welfare and social security? There's your worst president EVAH!!
Burner02 Offline
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MACS wrote:
Didn't FDR start welfare and social security? There's your worst president EVAH!!



FDR was before my time but check with Frank.
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Burner02 wrote:
FDR was before my time but check with Frank.

why me?!
how old do you think I am...HA!
Hillbillyjosh770 Offline
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Old enough to know better:p
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Hillbillyjosh770 wrote:
Old enough to know better:p

Hey! Did I mention I am reading Hillbilly Elegy?
I know how your kind thinks...I'm like a genius y'know.
Burner02 Offline
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delta1 wrote:
awful...



Plane full of cash for hostages opens up plenty of future possibilities.......just ask N/Korea.
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Burner02 wrote:
Plane full of cash for hostages opens up plenty of future possibilities.......just ask N/Korea.


on the bright side, at least we will have a lot of suspenseful, "based on a true story," hollywood blockbusters in summers to come
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Burner02 wrote:
Thought you were smarter than that.


Error on my part.


Actually,I was referring to prez gaffs involving Iran.
I thought you were smart enough to figger that out.
I was wrong. X Think
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xibbumbero wrote:
Actually,I was referring to prez gaffs involving Iran.
I thought you were smart enough to figger that out.
I was wrong. X Think



If in fact you were bringing up prez gaffs with Iran, maybe you should have brought up Jimmy C.
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Jimmy C did eff that up. what a worthless dolt. Then after they invaded our sovereign territory and took out people hostage my favorite President not only negotiated with those very people, he directly sold them arms. I love Reagan but that does bother me.

"Obama's deal" may very well be a mistake too, I don't know enough about it. What I do know is it was not unilateral (IE other countries equally involved) and was not secret (some details may be harder to find but nothing like the off the book arms sales under Reagan)

If you are pissy about bammy's deal you certainly can't be comfortable with Reagan's.
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Mellow
xibbumbero Offline
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Burner02 wrote:
If in fact you were bringing up prez gaffs with Iran, maybe you should have brought up Jimmy C.


Yeah,I forgot about that gaff. X
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teedubbya wrote:
Jimmy C did eff that up. what a worthless dolt. Then after they invaded our sovereign territory and took out people hostage my favorite President not only negotiated with those very people, he directly sold them arms. I love Reagan but that does bother me.

"Obama's deal" may very well be a mistake too, I don't know enough about it. What I do know is it was not unilateral (IE other countries equally involved) and was not secret (some details may be harder to find but nothing like the off the book arms sales under Reagan)

If you are pissy about bammy's deal you certainly can't be comfortable with Reagan's.


He only gets pissy w/the Dems. He tends to overlook the Reps FU's. X Shame on you
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teedubbya wrote:
Jimmy C did eff that up. what a worthless dolt. Then after they invaded our sovereign territory and took out people hostage my favorite President not only negotiated with those very people, he directly sold them arms. I love Reagan but that does bother me.

"Obama's deal" may very well be a mistake too, I don't know enough about it. What I do know is it was not unilateral (IE other countries equally involved) and was not secret (some details may be harder to find but nothing like the off the book arms sales under Reagan)

If you are pissy about bammy's deal you certainly can't be comfortable with Reagan's.



Whether one agrees with Iran Contra or not, there is no way that compares to the Iran nuke deal. The consequences of the nuke deal will be way more adverse than Iran Contra. All Obama did was give Iran the keys to the kingdom to allow them to nuke up. Did he think they were going to be our best buds after he gave them everything they wanted?
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xibbumbero wrote:
He only gets pissy w/the Dems. He tends to overlook the Reps FU's. X Shame on you



Shows how little you know.
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Burner02 wrote:
Whether one agrees with Iran Contra or not, there is no way that compares to the Iran nuke deal. The consequences of the nuke deal will be way more adverse than Iran Contra. All Obama did was give Iran the keys to the kingdom to allow them to nuke up. Did he think they were going to be our best buds after he gave them everything they wanted?

this deal, good or bad, was an open consensus of several nations, not the way it gets described here.
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frankj1 wrote:
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this deal, good or bad, was an open consensus of several nations, not the way it gets described here.


You have to admit that Obama was driving the bus.
teedubbya Offline
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It's still not what you describe.

And Reagan sold arms directly to the same regime illegally and secretly.

teedubbya Offline
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And I'm not using that as one excuses the other. It's just funny someone can be so upset about a multilateral deal in the sunshine that they clearly don't understand at best or are simply tossing political talking points yet a secretive direct sale of arms was never an issue with them.

If I didn't know better I'd find it partisan rather than logical.

I don't know much about the new multilateral deal. I do now it's not as typically described in here.



I suspect trump will find it's like nafta and there is more to it than the cutesy political lobs. Who knew it's more complicated than he thought?
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I heard Obama gave them all that money cause they promised to purchase Obamacare... Mellow
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DrafterX wrote:
I heard Obama gave them all that money cause they promised to purchase Obamacare... Mellow

finally the truth sees the light of day!
DrafterX Offline
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Laugh



but they never did... Mellow
teedubbya Offline
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Bomb bomb bomb bomb bomb Iran
teedubbya Offline
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What's funny is my comments will likely be seen as support of the deal and the argument will land there lol.

It's just easier that way.
DrafterX Offline
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and then there's the whole worshiping Obama thing... Mellow
teedubbya Offline
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True true

And the liberal thing
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That's a given... Mellow
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teedubbya wrote:
And I'm not using that as one excuses the other. It's just funny someone can be so upset about a multilateral deal in the sunshine that they clearly don't understand at best or are simply tossing political talking points yet a secretive direct sale of arms was never an issue with them.

If I didn't know better I'd find it partisan rather than logical.

I don't know much about the new multilateral deal. I do now it's not as typically described in here.



I suspect trump will find it's like nafta and there is more to it than the cutesy political lobs. Who knew it's more complicated than he thought?



You need to go back and check the OP which was a link to a left leaning org investigative report from Politico. I do think the deal sux and will continue down that path until proven otherwise. And that is my right to do so, no matter how upset you get.

I really don't see how one can compare the nuke deal to Iran - Contra and the possible long term dangers to the U.S. As far as what Reagan was thinking, I don't have a clue any more than you do. But there is always the possibility that he was hedging his bets against Iraq through arming another group of bad guys. And last time I checked that deal, right or wrong was not giving Iran the keys to the nuclear kingdom.

If you really want to go back, bring up Nixon and "Water Gate" and give your spin on how that relates to the nuke deal.
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