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Trump's security is expensive
tonygraz Offline
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http://www.msn.com/en-us/money/markets/secret-service-wont-get-dollar60-million-more-to-protect-the-trumps/ar-BByCBCh
delta1 Offline
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But...but...ummm...........he and his family are wealthy "real" Americans... and this is worth the expense since he's making America Great again, which will more than compensate for providing travel and security expenses for his family as they tend to their business interests all over the world...that's how the rich roll...and we support our rich, since they constantly talk about helping average Americans by giving them security and jobs...and stuff...



http://www.forbes.com/business/employment.trends/up-secretservicejobs
DrafterX Offline
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well, at least they're willing to protect him... I heard they were all gonna quit if Hillary got elected... Mellow
delta1 Offline
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$60 Million for the first year is huuuge...Obama's family spent $85 million over his entire eight year term...
DrafterX Offline
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inflation and stuff.... Lincoln's prolly woulda been double that... Mellow
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DrafterX wrote:
inflation and stuff.... Lincoln's prolly woulda been double that... Mellow


But would they have done a better job?
delta1 Offline
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That $60 Million is ABOVE what was in this year's budget...
DrafterX Offline
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You don't think Lincoln woulda been worth it..?? Huh
tamapatom Offline
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Obviously Lincoln's security detail was not enough.
victor809 Offline
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Hehe
SmokeMonkey Offline
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DrafterX wrote:
You don't think Lincoln woulda been worth it..?? Huh


I didn't vote for himMellow
sd72 Offline
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He has a cpl. why are we paying anything.
delta1 Offline
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I don't get it...Obama was heavily criticized by the right for abusing his position because the bill for family security and travel expenses was $85 M...for EIGHT years.

Trump is asking for $60 M more for this year ALONE, and we're only 2 months into his first year...and given the law of expense creep, it'll likely be more this year and in the next years of his term...crickets from the right, or winks and jokes...

Where is the intellectual consistency...or does this just clinch the perception that Obama would never be cut any slack on the right because of his "so-called nationality"
DrafterX Offline
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We were just kiddin. ... Mellow
delta1 Offline
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Think Shame on you Liar
DrafterX Offline
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Seriously tho... I don't get it either. .. Mellow
DrafterX Offline
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Maybe when he gets the family unit in one place. .. but then I guess Ivanka will need security too... I dunno. .. Mellow
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DrafterX wrote:
We were just kiddin. ... Mellow

you just have a way with phrasing and timing that slays me.
tonygraz Offline
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tamapatom wrote:
Obviously Lincoln's security detail was not enough.


There was no secret service back then. No security to speak of either.
Mr. Jones Offline
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Like I SAID:
About 3? TIMES before this thread....

Trump's FAMILY SECURITY WILL BANKRUPT
THE entire U.S. TREASURY...

Everybody seems to be counting MICHELLE's
Lobster# intake over 8 Years....I forget the estimate...3,000?? Or so...
That LOBSTER COST wouldn't even cover protecting the TRUMP MASSIVE FAMILY SECURITY COST FOR
ONE FREAKIN' DAY....

I THINK Obama realized the safest and cheapest place to be ....was the WHITEHOUSE...
LIKE EVERY PRESIDENT BEFORE HIM....
HE WAS NORMAL IN THAT RESPECT....EXCEPT FOR
VACATIONS AND GOLFING...

BUT THIS TRUMP CLAN is beyond comprehension
In security detail costs....

When he leaves office...it doesn't "go away "
Either...his family will be a ball and chain to the
Secret Service FOR DECADES TO COME....

IT WILL NEVER END..$$$$$$$
Millions and Millions every year till 2060 just for TRUMPS SPAWN and grandkids....
DrafterX Offline
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What's the average SS dude make..?? 180k..?? $85 mill..?? Huh
That's a bunch of SS dudes. . Mellow
TMCTLT Offline
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delta1 wrote:
I don't get it...Obama was heavily criticized by the right for abusing his position because the bill for family security and travel expenses was $85 M...for EIGHT years.

Trump is asking for $60 M more for this year ALONE, and we're only 2 months into his first year...and given the law of expense creep, it'll likely be more this year and in the next years of his term...crickets from the right, or winks and jokes...

Where is the intellectual consistency...or does this just clinch the perception that Obama would never be cut any slack on the right because of his "so-called nationality"




HAHAHA that's F'n hilarious.....let me catch my breath. All you on the left who were / ARE so enamored with our first half black president and Racist in Chief.....and went on like he was the coming of the Messiah were/ ARE so caught up in your political correctness to recognize the man and his politics as FLAWED. But he was VERY successful in accomplishing his MAIN GOAL....to DIVIDE our country, get us started down the road of Socialism and try to turn Americans completely against Law Enforcement.


And THAT is what he'll be remembered for throughout history. ( Along with Obammycare )
tonygraz Offline
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I'll bet you remember all the demonstrations against Obama and never muttered a disparaging word about his race.
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I don't remember any.... Mellow
TMCTLT Offline
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DrafterX wrote:
I don't remember any.... Mellow



Me neither....especially not just 3 months into his term!!! But then even if you did question ANYTHING about the man or his F'd up policies....you were labeled a bigot or racist or similar. After all he was the New Massiah
Tony is a prime example of over use of the race card when giving O'bummer cover.
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True. ..true. .. Mellow
tonygraz Offline
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TMCTLT wrote:
Me neither....especially not just 3 months into his term!!! But then even if you did question ANYTHING about the man or his F'd up policies....you were labeled a bigot or racist or similar. After all he was the New Massiah
Tony is a prime example of over use of the race card when giving O'bummer cover.


Perhaps you should review your prior posts or try getting back on Aricept.
Mr. Jones Offline
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TRUMP just pulled over " THE BEAST " LIMOUSINE
@ a WAWA...
TO TAKE A DUMP AND BUY A BIG GULP....

THAT COST THE U.S. TAXPAYER'S
ABOUT $25 L.A.R.G.E. for A 15 Minute stop...
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How do you figure that..?? Did they call in more security or something. .?? Huh


Seems like I remember Obama walking down the block to get a cheeseburger once. .. there was no outrage then... Mellow
delta1 Offline
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Those on the left were outraged that he would take such a risk...especially given the black on black crime in Washington DC...and how it seemed the Secret Service weren't taking their jobs too seriously...What was he thinking?

Those on the right kept encouraging him "to come on out and let us know first"...
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Prolly hungry... Mellow
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And THAT is what he'll be remembered for throughout history. ( Along with Obammycare )

No, Trump will be Obammy's legacy. He was so bad as POTUS that the stage was set for a Trump victory over Hildog!
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burnem2 wrote:
And THAT is what he'll be remembered for throughout history. ( Along with Obammycare )

No, Trump will be Obammy's legacy. He was so bad as POTUS that the stage was set for a Trump victory over Hildog!

You are incorrect to blame the left for Trump stealing the GOP nomination from the GOP.

You had 8 FRIGGING YEARS to come up with something better than 17 idiots running for the nomination, and then letting an outsider waltz in and steal the deal.

Look inside your own home to figure out who stole the party...and why. Start with inability to govern when in control.
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Maybe the plan wasn't suppose to pass... now he can say he tried... it wasn't exactly a replace deal... Mellow
tonygraz Offline
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DrafterX wrote:
How do you figure that..?? Did they call in more security or something. .?? Huh


Seems like I remember Obama walking down the block to get a cheeseburger once. .. there was no outrage then... Mellow


Obama didn't fill up three porta pottys.
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Protecting the POTUS is critical, regardless of your like or dislike of the current President; it's a non negotiable issue. It not a topic for nuanced jokes about letting harm get to a President wrapped in complaints about the cost.

If those Secret Service agents got better pay they might not have tried to stiff a hooker like that wild night in Cartagena. FWIW, I was appalled that several nut jobs got close to the Whitehouse and one inside of the Whitehouse during Obama time in office. The Secret Service was not, IMO, doing a very good job.
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Considering the number of tanks I keeps seeing being shipped down the line by the house perhaps a beef up in presidential security can be justified. Maybe not 60mil but an extra ten or fifteen million might not hurt.
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Gene363 wrote:
Protecting the POTUS is critical, regardless of your like or dislike of the current President; it's a non negotiable issue. It not a topic for nuanced jokes about letting harm get to a President wrapped in complaints about the cost.

If those Secret Service agents got better pay they might not have tried to stiff a hooker like that wild night in Cartagena. FWIW, I was appalled that several nut jobs got close to the Whitehouse and one inside of the Whitehouse during Obama time in office. The Secret Service was not, IMO, doing a very good job.

good post...and now we can add another intruder paying a visit to Trump this time.
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#33 ^^^

Frank OUTRAGE!!! :):):)
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Mr. Jones wrote:
#33 ^^^

Frank OUTRAGE!!! :):):)

HA!
I feel much better.
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frankj1 wrote:
You are incorrect to blame the left for Trump stealing the GOP nomination from the GOP.

You had 8 FRIGGING YEARS to come up with something better than 17 idiots running for the nomination, and then letting an outsider waltz in and steal the deal.

Look inside your own home to figure out who stole the party...and why. Start with inability to govern when in control.


One could argue that although Trump did beat the field for the GOP nomination, that the votes were drastically diluted due to the number of participants.
On the other hand, the democrats propped up their very best. Their number 1 seed who made it to the finals.
And it was Hillary.

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I think Trump would have won if he ran as a Democrat. It was an anti establishment vote.
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Not after his "I grabbed their puzzies" comments became public... liberal women who ditched their bras 35-40 years ago and grudgingly put them back on when their nipples pointed at their feet would never vote for Trump...and now can be seen marching in the streets wearing pink hats protesting him...

...what is astonishing to me is the number of women on the right who never forgave Bill's philandering ways and criticized Hillary for standing by her man...now overlook worse behavior by Trump...
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Trump may have won the democrat nomination but I doubt he woulda been elected. .. Hillary lost cause she sucks... anyone else against Trump prolly woulda taken it... Mellow
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delta1 wrote:
Not after his "I grabbed their puzzies" comments became public... liberal women who ditched their bras 35-40 years ago and grudgingly put them back on when their nipples pointed at their feet would never vote for Trump...and now can be seen marching in the streets wearing pink hats protesting him...

...what is astonishing to me is the number of women on the right who never forgave Bill's philandering ways and criticized Hillary for standing by her man...now overlook worse behavior by Trump...



Al, I think most rational folks took what Slick Willy did so offensively because he showed NO RESPECT for the Oval Office...perhaps had the POS got them a room @ Motel 6....the People wouldn't have cared nearly as much if @ all.

And everyone with half a brain KNOWS why Hilldog stood by her man....we just witnessed it in the 2017 election that she LOST. Her running for office with HIS SUPPORT....was part of her willingness to look past Bill's transgressions mark my words!!!!
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Bill's words,'Obamacare sucks'... Mellow
Mr. Jones Offline
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^^still better than "ELEPHANT CARE"
tonygraz Offline
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DrafterX wrote:
Bill's words,'Obamacare sucks'... Mellow


Are you one of those that thing the ACA is better ?
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TMCTLT wrote:
Al, I think most rational folks took what Slick Willy did so offensively because he showed NO RESPECT for the Oval Office...perhaps had the POS got them a room @ Motel 6....the People wouldn't have cared nearly as much

that's worth pondering...
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AHCA Tony.
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