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ovid Offline
#1 Posted:
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I'm going to take the plunge and buy some CC's. I hear a lot of comments that praise the taste but complain about draw burn or other construction issues. For my first try at Cubans I'm not looking to spend Cohiba prices. This is not about taste, strength or any issue other than draw and construction. I'll research flavor profiles and prices afterwards.
Thanks
abjd14 Offline
#2 Posted:
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What's the point ? I'd rather smoke a tasty cigar that burns into a canoe, then a great costructed dog rocket.
dstieger Offline
#3 Posted:
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You don't need to worry about construction problems if you're buying any Cubans from the past 4 or 5 years. Sure, you might get an occasional bum roll, but less frequent than most NC's today.
KingoftheCove Offline
#4 Posted:
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abjd14 wrote:
What's the point ? I'd rather smoke a tasty cigar that burns into a canoe, then a great costructed dog rocket.

Typically a cigar that burns crappy, whether tunneling, canoeing, plugged, etc, is not going to taste that great, even if it is a great tobacco.Construction is kind of important.

It's also true that you can roll a well constructed cigar out of crap tobacco...............it will burn great.........and taste like crap..............lots of those cigars around.
KingoftheCove Offline
#5 Posted:
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ovid wrote:
I'm going to take the plunge and buy some CC's. I hear a lot of comments that praise the taste but complain about draw burn or other construction issues. For my first try at Cubans I'm not looking to spend Cohiba prices. This is not about taste, strength or any issue other than draw and construction. I'll research flavor profiles and prices afterwards.
Thanks

I'm a CC noop, having only tried Partagas, Bolivar, and some Montes.
Of those, the Bolis had the best construction, and the Montes the "worst" (a few were plugged)
burnem2 Offline
#6 Posted:
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I would agree the construction quality has improved over the last several years, but believe NC still burn better. If you're going to spend some Cohiba money, but yourself a box of Siglo IV, as Cohiba's construction usually leads the pack. Ring gauge is another factor......Robusto typically have less problems than say a Lancero. Double Coronas are pretty hard to get wrong as well.
Buckwheat Offline
#7 Posted:
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dstieger wrote:
You don't need to worry about construction problems if you're buying any Cubans from the past 4 or 5 years. Sure, you might get an occasional bum roll, but less frequent than most NC's today.


+1 and ONLY BUY FROM A REPUTABLE STORE!!!

I never had any problems from HUpmann, RyJ or Partagas. The RyJ Short Churchill is a wonderful smoke. fog
elRopo Offline
#8 Posted:
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Buckwheat wrote:
+1 and ONLY BUY FROM A REPUTABLE STORE!!!

I never had any problems from HUpmann, RyJ or Partagas. The RyJ Short Churchill is a wonderful smoke. fog

Ditto the RyJ
gummy jones Offline
#9 Posted:
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do you guys see more problems when buying from an online vendor vs an official habana store?
anyone even have enough experience to make that call?
rfenst Offline
#10 Posted:
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Posts: 39,100
gummy jones wrote:
do you guys see more problems when buying from an online vendor vs an official habana store?
anyone even have enough experience to make that call?


I have not had any real construction problems. Cohiba is spendy for a first purchase. Buy two boxes of different cigars instead instead.
hnixon12 Offline
#11 Posted:
Joined: 04-20-2009
Posts: 2,873
ovid wrote:
I'm going to take the plunge and buy some CC's. I hear a lot of comments that praise the taste but complain about draw burn or other construction issues. For my first try at Cubans I'm not looking to spend Cohiba prices. This is not about taste, strength or any issue other than draw and construction. I'll research flavor profiles and prices afterwards.
Thanks


two words Bolivar RC
dstieger Offline
#12 Posted:
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that's three words....and not in my top 15....as Robert said, buy two DIFFERENT boxes....or more....or do some splits....

You might buy what many consider to be good 'fresh' lately....

Problem with starting out with Cubans is that it really is true that they will develop over years....it'd be great to find your sweet spot right off the bat and get some aging right away...but that doesn't usually happen. One of my first 'likes' was PSD4. So, I immediately bought a bunch of boxes to start aging. Seven to ten years later, they are better...but nowhere near my favorites now...I wish that I'd bought more HU's and RA's back then for aging, instead of a pile of PSD4's.

Just gotta try a few. If I thought your tastes were anything like mine, I'd say buy:
1 box of HUHC's (great young and I don't know anyone that doesn't like them)
1 box of something in a larger format: Monte2 Diplo2, Lusi...
1 box of rob/corona in big name - Boli/RyJ/RA

Go ahead and smoke through the HUHC's now...either split the other two boxes with trades, or work through them VERY slowly....no more than one every 3-4 months...and carefully note the evolution of the blend....
SmokeMonkey Offline
#13 Posted:
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Dave, if you need some help burning through those PSD4's just let me know....
Stinkdyr Offline
#14 Posted:
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KingoftheCove wrote:
I'm a CC noop, having only tried Partagas, Bolivar, and some Montes.
Of those, the Bolis had the best construction, and the Montes the "worst" (a few were plugged)



Ditto dat.
Small ring gauge are a problem. Someone I know got a box of Montecristo No.5 recently. SEVERAL were plugged.

Brick wall
MACS Offline
#15 Posted:
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Buckwheat wrote:
+1 and ONLY BUY FROM A REPUTABLE STORE!!!

I never had any problems from HUpmann, RyJ or Partagas. The RyJ Short Churchill is a wonderful smoke. fog


Agreed. I love me some Montecristo, Bolivar, Juan Lopez, HdM...

If you get the Montecristo Edmundo, you will not be disappointed.
rfenst Offline
#16 Posted:
Joined: 06-23-2007
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Stinkdyr wrote:
Ditto dat.
Small ring gauge are a problem. Someone I know got a box of Montecristo No.5 recently. SEVERAL were plugged.

Brick wall


A reputable vendor has a return policy.
ovid Offline
#17 Posted:
Joined: 01-24-2017
Posts: 141
I was hoping to get some Monte #2. But have heard many horror stories of right draw and hopelessly plugged. I will only buy quality Cubans but after I get a working list of well constructed smokes. I will then research taste. I got votes for Bolivar RYJ and the Monte Edmund Any other suggestions
dstieger Offline
#18 Posted:
Joined: 06-22-2007
Posts: 10,889
If using a reputable vendor, buy Monte 2's if that's what you want. The idea that Cuban cigars have construction issues is way overblown.....has been for many years.....Stink's friend's reported experience notwithstanding. Boom years and for a few years after, there were some problems. That is no longer the case..
euodias Offline
#19 Posted:
Joined: 10-16-2009
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Good advice so far.

1) Buy some robustos. its a simple size, not likely to have construction issues

2) Quality is a lot better than it used to be, I wouldn't worry too much

3) Store cubans at lower humidity. I like 62%. 70% is probably going to get you draw problems.
ovid Offline
#20 Posted:
Joined: 01-24-2017
Posts: 141
euodias wrote:
Good advice so far.

1) Buy some robustos. its a simple size, not likely to have construction issues

2) Quality is a lot better than it used to be, I wouldn't worry too much

3) Store cubans at lower humidity. I like 62%. 70% is probably going to get you draw problems.


Excellent advice........thanks
hnixon12 Offline
#21 Posted:
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KingoftheCove wrote:
I'm a CC noop, having only tried Partagas, Bolivar, and some Montes.
Of those, the Bolis had the best construction, and the Montes the "worst" (a few were plugged)



Boli RC's being my fav CC, NEVER have constructions issues!!
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